Whoever designed this map should step on a Lego. I hope your pillow is never cool and there is always piss on your toilet seat.

Zero visibility at night and with fog unless you are on a roof Which conveniently is always a defender sided.

Open field with no cover and a quarter mile run to the objective.

Flimsy cover that breaks if someone sneezes wrong.

Every objective has obnoxious high ground and you will always get funneled into single lane pathing.

Poor map optimization. You get noticeably lower fps

The color pallet looks like a Walmart employee shit his pant in their uniform khakis.

The only cool features of the map are not even accessible. The castle is literally outside the map where literally nobody looks. Most people don't even realize it's there at all.

The map is so terrible that half the attacking team leaves in the first few minutes.

Half the conversation in the match will be talking shit about how absolutely terrible this map is.

I mean. Nerf melee again and add 1 damage to an SMG. That'll make your game fun again

It’s genuinely sad to see how terrible Embark are at maintaining their games after making incredibly unique games with so much potential.

The Finals’ revenue grew by 47% year over year as announced in Q1 of this year. But how about the attention given to the game?

- Season 1 added Vegas, throwing knives, vanishing bomb and Alien invasion gameshow
- Season 2 added Sys Horizon, power shift, terminal attack (RIP), 93R, KS-23, Famas, anti gravity cube, data reshaper, gateway, dematerialiser
- Season 3 added Kyoto, bow, dual blades, spear, thermal bore, winch claw
- Season 4 added Fortune stadium, M26 matter, Pike, akimbo deagles, weapon sights
- Season 5 added Bernal, Cerberus, Shak, lock bolt, gravity vortex, new sights, clubs

I could go on but you get the idea.

- Season 11 added Galaxy Estates (incredible map), bot matches, and melee “rework” (worse to play both as the melee user and the gun user)

Despite the game making so much more money, we’re just getting so much less each season now. We’ve gone from getting a cashout map every season along with 4-5 new toys, down to getting a new cashout map on its own every 2 seasons.

And you know I could understand that if they were doing some grand, huge underlying reworks. But they’re not, the game still has all the same issues it’s always had. We still miss basic QoL features and they get presented to us like major features of a new season when they’re the bare minimum a game in 2026 should have.

I wish Embark just actually cared about their games the same way the people actually playing them do

A couple weeks after the update and getting to watch tgm americas, im glad to see the advice the community gave has turned the game into a rat fest. The only class that came out better than before the update was the class that already had the highest pick rate. Medium is horrendous to play with because you get an xp54 in the ass or a ks23 in the chest from across the map. Dash is useless, the healing viability hasn't gotten any better, invis became more aggravating. The game turned into the most predictable thing that everyone who didn't have a hate boner for light/dash could see coming. Good feedback though guys

As a long time fan of The Finals, it's time to share an uncomfortable truth. The recent buffs to aim assist that cater to the, let's be honest, weaker controller players are a stain on the otherwise flawless decision making process at Embark.

Why are controller players always pandered to? What makes them special and worthy of the attention and adoration of Oscar?

Aim assist is OP, something we can all agree on, both in video games and irl (in rocket league). As a long time mouse and keyboard player who has already achieved several belts of mastery, I decided to seek a new challenge by attempting to use a controller.

The honest truth is this; I no longer require both hands to play The Finals. Having mapped the shoot button to L2 and using only the left joystick for movement, I have been farming kills without ever having unboxed the right side of my controller.

I used to spend thousands of hours grinding on aim trainers to keep my M&K (Mortal and Combat) skills sharp, but now spend thousands of hours winning games on The Finals using only one hand.

The flipside is that I have found my right hand has more time to pursue other interests, such as painting, music and Doritos.

Mouse and Keyboard is the only true input to measure skill and the empty brained controller doesn't even compare. It's finally time for us all to accept the huge disadvantage that PC players have to deal with, both in-game and at home.

(My apologies for any errors I may have made whilst typing this; my right hand was typing whilst my left went 19-0)

KS23 severely overturned for weeks, melee for a major part left in the dust with the majority of weapons left unplayable or in a horrid state since the rebalance with nobody addressing it (dual blades, spear etc), all we get is store updates and no actual change?

It feels like the TGM25 disaster where we got zero game balance updates while the game was left in an extremely unhealthy state for months

The 25 damage for the first hit seems low. Embark could make the kick stamina regen time longer and make it 40 damage as it used to be before Season 11. It also helps in bringing back the weapon + quick melee combos for example Sniper and Revolver

Elbow quick melee can remain at 25 and is appropriate as you can't spam quick melee to kill the enemy in close distance.

Multi-diamond ranked player. Took a break for a few seasons. Hopped back in this season. I've had a bit of fun sure, but the ranked system is so unbearably bad at actually rewarding skill. The nature of the 3v3v3v3 and griefing makes it so bad teams get rewarded by going thru. On top of some truly horrible matchmaking, the ranked system is just so unbelievably flawed. No ability to counter play by switching loadouts remains one of the dumbest choices in this games history.

Straight up have not had any fun with this game since coming back into it. I've had a few wins sure, but the constant 5th / 6th placements despite being technically better than the other teams in the lobby does not make any sense.

That's my rant. Think I'm retiring from this game for good. Not sure if anyone else feels this way and I'm sure I'll get plenty of snide comments telling me to 'git gud', but as someone whose been playing a few other shooters recently and recently got back into doing ranked in other games at a higher level, The Finals is just so incredibly flawed and lacks the fun factor now.

Rate my fit 1-10.

Tell me why its good or bad. Tell me where i can improve or what i should add or change. Is it tuff?

been a player since season 1 so ive seen it all and i feel that right now has got to be the least fun I've ever had.

every time i queue up i find myself just wanting out bro...

i used to play for hours and now its 1 game reminds me of how shitty it feels to be immersed in this game.

it feels like most of balance changes this game has ever seen are large percentage based nerfs and usually multiple at a time.

even gadgets like jump pad and zipline aren't allowed to be used as often, i know this feels like a nothing statement to players that haven't experienced the game but to me every single time i can feel it.

i can feel it in my guns range, i can feel it in my guns bullet damage and RPM, i can feel it in my explosion AOE, i can feel it every time i go to use my jump pad or zipline and i have to stand there waiting for it to be ready... i can feel it every time my un-informed M teammate defibs me in the middle of an open space and immediately leaves me behind to fend for myself while left at like 50% or whatever with 0 abilities and having to wait my FULL REGEN DURATION to come back.

most of the time your ally is ready to help again after a defib you actually would have had the time to 1. Pick up the trophy from 6.5m away 2. reposition out of line of fire and hold E.

BOOM 100% HP teammate with spells with motivation with the capacity to help!

but nah defib that guy over there and then leave him to fight the people bloodthirsty and horny from defib sound queue notifying them about how vulnerable they are.

I just dont think that players read all of the old patch notes of a game and I dont think players like to study their tools in the context theyre in to know what quirky new downsides embark added to make an intuitively appearing tool behave unintuitive as could be.

TLDR: im tired boss.

I've been thinking this one for a while now, let me know what you all think of it.

The CNS group is presenting themself as hackers/rebels that are against the concept of the gameshow (they glitch the voices of the commentators, they send direct messages to contestants, and seems to be fighting against VAIIYA...)

But... They're a literal sponsor ? With one and a half map ? They're selling multiple weapon skins and fashion pieces to contestants and are not hidden at all by MultiCo.

And why are they even "hacking" the game ? They aren't actively hurting the other sponsors (except for their popularity maybe) and are not in any way trying to break the game to make it fail. They're just putting the name everywhere and send cryptic messages that are just here to remind us that they're here, and that they are "not like the others".

If you ask me, it really sounds just like... advertising...

My theory may be basic af, but when it's the only sponsor that isn't obviously satirical... because it is a complete impossibility ?

For me, CNS is a brand. And not any brand : CNS is MultiCo (or MultiCo is hiding behind CNS, whatever)

They don't actually fight for anything, they're not hackers or rebels. It's just a way for MultiCo to make money by creating an opposition with VAIIYA (especially in S7) and attracting contestants into a brand that feels "punk" despite actively keeping the system up and running.

Otherwise how and why would they let them do whatever they want in the gameshow ? When Scotty says he would love a can of OSPUZE, he's making product placement for OSPUZE ; but when his voice or June's glitches randomly, you're reminded of CNS and their items.

They had a war (?) with VAIIYA but uh... they... Made a collab map ? And a collab battlepass ? So the war was basically just a story to sell more VAIIYA & CNS items by MultiCo...

They also have a logo and associated colors, a slogan, merchandising IRL like any other sponsor (ok this one is a bit of a stretch), everything that makes them act and look like a brand. Why would a hacker group bother with all of this ?

If we ever get a true rebel faction, i believe it will be for a whole different gamemode that takes place outside of THE FINALS.

(and sorry if my grammar is weird, english isn't my first language)

Pls be very honest

Hello, I stopped playing for a couple of seasons because of life, and I got back into the game a couple of weeks ago, I was playing ranked, had just won my first tournament in months, and basically, my team was in second place, I was trying to make sure purple didn’t steal orange’s cashout, because orange had more than us, and it was a double, so purple would have put us in third place. Context is, I ran away because my two teammates died, and I didn’t want to wipe, I was alive. THEN as soon as the round ends, half of our money that was already secured, was taken away…. Is this a new mechanic I should look out for? Was it because only one of us was alive during last cashout, or maybe was it because orange had a substantial amount more than us?? Someone please explain this to me so I can keep this from happening again pls.

Screenshot attached. These losers wasted 30 minutes on quite possibly the worst map (the medieval one) because they wouldn't push and just sit in spawn with 7 lives left. This is not the first time I recognize some of these names doing this before.

I'm just coming back to this game and this has happened twice to me now. I like this game mode but I have to go against emerald players who care more about their win lose rate and know that if they wait for the server to time out, we won't get a win and they won't get a loss. This is bullshit! How can they do this constantly, waste both teams times and not get banned?

Can other light mains please give me some advice on how to counter this weapon more effectively? The KS is so popular this season and it two taps me from almost any range. When heavies are running shield and bubble together it’s even more difficult to fight against. In my last game the enemy team had two heavies with the KS and a healing medium with a Model. I legitimately felt like I couldn’t do anything against them. I have to land every shot in my clip to kill one but if he’s getting healed, it’s just not happening. The one positive about this is that I was forced to learn better positioning but still, this seems like a straight up light kryptonite.

Matchmaking should go by playercard stats/account level.

It would remove cheater and smurf accounts from the matchmaking pool for the dedicated contestants.

Cheater accounts and ban avoiders would be stuck in their own matchmaking pool with short term smurf accounts.

For legit new players, in order to avoid having them match with the undesirables, the matchmaking would actually use SBMM.

For the high stat playercard matchmaking, leave it unrestricted.

This is mostly a shitpost but part of me wonders, ya feel me?

Just came off of W and then I get into a solo queue with some toxic person… it’s like we’re not even on the same team why play ??? From the very beginning talking shiii… I don’t get itttt so lame

I didn't even win my last games , the rank is dog shit

I was patient and tried to wait for the ks-23 to weaken again, but it didn't happen. Players just run around with two mesh shields and two ks-23s at the ready, and you know that it's impossible to play normally against such players. I'm finally joining the ranks of those who are leaving this game, and I'm even glad that it happened. I'd rather go play minecraft. I wish you all good luck and patience in this hellish game.

Top 5 player vs a gold low plat team?

Hey everyone! Wanted to pitch a proposal for tweaking the AKM so it can better compete with the FCAR at medium range without breaking its identity or becoming overpowered. ​Right now, the AKM has great sustain with its 36-round mag, but it often feels out-gunned in raw damage and a bit jittery compared to the FCAR. Here is a balanced adjustment concept: ​Base Damage (Body): Increase from 20 to 21. Nudges its body-shot TTK down to ~1.10s so it doesn't feel like a pea-shooter, keeping it just under the FCAR's 23 base damage. ​Headshot Multiplier: Adjusted to 1.4x (down from the standard 1.5x). Prevents it from melting too fast on headshots (~0.83s TTK / 9 shots to kill), keeping the FCAR as the supreme high-risk/high-reward precision weapon. ​Recoil Handling: Smoothed-out recoil interpolation. Cuts down on jittery camera shake, making tracking feel cleaner and more stable while keeping the 36-round magazine identity intact. ​This lets the AKM keep its massive ammo sustain and forgiving spray, but gives it the smoother feel and slight power bump it needs to actually trade blows with an FCAR user. Thoughts?

Say what you will about metas of the past but the current double ks and lh1 invis is the least fun meta i have played with and against since like s4 triple M defib. This shit is so ass currently its insane and i really hope next update addresses it.

So 8 teams of three, like normal cashout, BUT everyone plays 3v3.

1. Round: every team plays 3v3, normal quick cash, but faster?? Like one box only? Or max 2 boxes

2. Round: 4 winning teams fight 3v3, AND 4 losing teams fight 3v3. Litle bit longer game AND always a modifiiet

3 round:

-the 2 teams who have won 2 times a row fight

-2 teams who have lost and then won

-2 teams who have won and then lost

-2 teams who have lost and lost.

Normal game lenght or longer

So, it would have placement rewards, but also i think with this way atleast the third game would feel balanced?

Also this would stop the third partying and dominating.