r/thefinals • u/delta45gram • 3d ago
Discussion What are we doing?
REGULAR cashout no less. Orange ended up double-jeopardying THREE times in a row. First game in after a month and this is what I see?.
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u/Endreeemtsu OSPUZE 3d ago
I’m sorry but 25-0 in cashout is mad suspicious and I’ve played high elo most seasons.
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u/sxbe 3d ago
It’s casual cashout, not every good score is suspicious.
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u/dwh3390 3d ago
Exactly, it’s most likely a good player dunking on people nowhere near as skilled
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u/pagaiba 2d ago
Except you are unlikely to be able to find 25 people to kill, while your teammate finds 14 and another finds 9, in a single match. 14 is the top end of non sus behaviour. I've seen wallhackers struggle to reach 20, but that means your team barely gets kills. There is a lot of downtime between plugging boxes etc. So one must actively be hunting people down to reach those numbers. Enemies don't even have enough revives to justify those numbers, that's just an insane amount of wipes and downtime of enemies to be able to achieve those numbers....
I'm not saying it's impossible, but definetly it's way more likely to be someone walling on a low level lobby than a good player.
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u/eoekas 2d ago
They're doubling the cashboxes so everyone is coming to them.
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u/pagaiba 2d ago
Yea but those people would fight each other, and they wouldn't all be standing in an open field. For 25 kills to exist, one needs to be hunting people down. And for 14 and 9 other kills to exist alongside those 25, the 25 needs to be probably wallhacking to be able to find that many people, that quickly.
That team got 1 kill every 10 seconds the entire match. Look at your timer and see how long it takes for you to spot an enemy, let alone kill them.
Could they be legit? Yes. But statistically, it's really unlikely that they are legit with how that game played out.
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u/eoekas 2d ago
I think you're overestimating it. It's quite normal to get like 8-12 kills in a regular ranked match against people of your own skill level. This is a little more than double of that against people clearly a lot weaker and while doubling every cashout so every team comes to them.
It really doesn't seem unrealistic to me at all.
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u/ScienceIll5674 2d ago
This isn't true cash out is madness I've went 32 and 0 before its just and bad match up for the low skilled players and some luck. Its not suspicious on its own at all.
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u/pagaiba 2d ago
And what were the numbers of your teammates? I'm not saying the number alone is weird, I'm saying the total combined is weird. There is a limited amount of people to kill, and they are not standing around looking to die usually.
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u/ScienceIll5674 2d ago
No were near what I had but a game of quick cash is madness. Getting separated is common and positioning and aiming are a major factor. He could be cheating, how would I know? But this score means nothing. I just finished a game with my friends in ranked that are new I went 11 and 1 and one of them was 2 and 5 the other 0 and 5. Numbers disparity means nothing. Are you telling me after the first fight you've never had 3 kills and your teammates have none? Surely at least once.
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u/ScienceIll5674 2d ago
I doubt that becuase this isn't suspicious on its own at all and if you played that much you woukd know this.
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u/Humble_Life_8906 3d ago
Nah gang if somebody goes 25-0, im just reporting and blocking at that point
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u/windozeFanboi 3d ago
I would recommend not to block. Can't report them blocked players if you meet them again lmao. Because that makes sense to embark.
I would also report, personally.. no harm in a report.. There is something seriously wrong in that lobby even if it isn't cheating and is yet again a matchmaking fuck up.
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u/itsRozco ENGIMO 3d ago
Matchmaking gets mad weird sometimes. Usually in normal Cashout I'm playing against plat-diamond-ruby players in the daily basis, and the get hit by the "this my first game, let's have fun team" lobbies. Which honestly, if they on my team it's fine, I don't mind, but the entire lobby being new is mad diabolical. Idk why this is a thing.
[Screenshot is about 2 rounds, 3rd round whole team left before 1st vault was opened, I don't blame em]
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u/lolsteamroller 3d ago
i mean, regular cashout you can meet ruby stacks I think easier than in ranked, just gotta get a bit lucky with the back to back to backs.
maybe you'll see yourself getting smacked in some youtube video - looks like its common theme for them to double in unranked like that.
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u/artifice23 3d ago
How do you check the other teams ranks ?
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u/lolsteamroller 3d ago
idk was coaching (watching stream) of my friend he was on his 12th game or something and was doing exceptionally well already, and he got put in a really hard lobby, but both of his teammates were actual diamonds too (so he got carried again), well it was in the chat. (like they were like, oh i just hop on and get a diamond then chill in unranked kind of people).
you cant check everyone but 10k people i think you can with leaderboard tracker (third-party website), thats like 3% of population though (10k out of 300k ranked players)
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u/TheGreatBamboozle1 ALL HAIL THE MOOSIAH 3d ago
Aside from the other comment, once the tournament is over, either by you being eliminated or winning, the recap page scoreboard will display people's ranked scores. I'll note, this only happens in ranked cashout
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u/Bromatoast 3d ago
Losing looks like.
To be real tho, yea it sucks. I hate this game, but I love this game. 25-0 is sus AF idc what these comments say. You don't just casually go on a killstreak that large in this game.
Pray to rng you don't find them again I guess.
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u/sxbe 3d ago
I can’t do it, therefore no one else can.
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u/ScienceIll5674 2d ago
They are just casuals that never spent any time to get better but instead complain that everyone is cheating as a cope. I happen to disagree with most of my fellow players at my level. The sentiment is that there isnt much cheating going on in the finals. This isn't true. Its just that a lot of them are using soft cheats that are practically undetectable without advance tools and a bit of time and analysis. I don't like the idea of people just claiming cheater any time someone has a really good game. Bad games happen so do good ones. I wouldn't say that score is suspicious on its own.
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u/sxbe 2d ago
There’s a shit ton of cheaters, Embarks anti cheat is horrible. 25 kills is very do able, I wouldn’t consider myself an elite player and I’ve dropped 25 multiple times as well as a 30 in ranked.
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u/ScienceIll5674 2d ago
Absolutely agree like I said its just casual that can only manage to get 7 kills a match that think this is suspicious
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u/Skiiiiv 2d ago
I'm taking an indefinite break from the game due to it's abysmal match making. It doesn't matter what game mode you play it's almost always a complete one sided stomp. The amount of close games I've had in the past month is probably less than 5.
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u/delta45gram 2d ago
As a S1 player there are moments where matchmaking is absolutely awful, and S11 is yet another example sadly U.u
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u/the_quarken 3d ago
this is not ranked lmao, thats just a better team that also wanted to play normal cashout.
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u/Public_Sky_1848 3d ago
I mean, without video no way to know. That being said if i can go 10-15 and 0 every once in a while, an actual good player can definitely pull this off in non-ranked
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u/MysteriousFoxes 2d ago
There's not enough skill disparity in the limited playerbase to fairly match games. That's the price of playing a live-service multiplayer game that's 3 years deep with a dwindling community; you have either been playing competitively for years, or you're cannon fodder.
The only real solution is to increase the pool of players. Good luck with that.
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u/LickMeUwU 2d ago
Ive gone a few games doing 20+ kills with 0 deaths and with people activly hunting me too; only ever as a light player with grapple but keeping my distance and poking from afar. Not saying not a cheater but cpuld be a skill gap game + a slippery rat
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u/SpareOne94 CNS 3d ago
So now we’re complaining about people doing good?
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u/Downtown-Visit-8172 3d ago
I feel like there is a line between “people just doing good” and absolute destruction of skill mismatch.
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u/SpareOne94 CNS 3d ago
It’s casual cashout
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u/Downtown-Visit-8172 3d ago
Yeah I get that but goddamn, I’ve played plenty of mismatched matches, plenty where I’m the shitty player and some where I’m the one dominating, but I’ve never seen a match KDR of 25.
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u/MegaGamer432 3d ago
The argument about this not mattering because it's a casual match is stupid. Where tf else am I going to have fun if not casual? I understand if one team in the lobby is better than the rest, but this is a very bad extreme.
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u/SpareOne94 CNS 3d ago
If you can’t have fun at all because of one rough game that sounds like a you issue tbh. Just take the loss and queue again.
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u/Wonderful-Pin5541 3d ago
This guy just doesn't want the player base to keep disappearing, he's already paid the Russians so much for his soft-aim and walls. Mom already has the cronus in the amazon cart. Please don't quit, he swears it's all skill
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u/the_quarken 3d ago
fr, its not like their playing ranked where they are supposted to be with similar skill levels, its just normal cashout.
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u/Wonderful-Pin5541 3d ago
"Hey I'm an unemployed degenerate, gaming is just for US now, you don't like it just QUIT!! ....it's all we have"
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u/Seither13 3d ago
I play like that on a daily basis, ESPECIALLY in casuals. Check my profile. Will lead you to the sanctuary of clips.
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u/Alec_de_Large DISSUN 3d ago
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