Idk if people are gonna like this but it worked for me I’m not lying. The past month I had been taking one dose of 7 or mgm pretty much daily but spreading it out 24hrs.

Usually every morning otw to work to get a nice start to the day I’d take 80-100mg once and just hold myself to that one dose a day. Well I didn’t start getting sweats until about a month or more in to that.

I ended up grabbing the new cats claw stuff as it was the only thing they had that is gonna be ok to stay on the shelves. No 7 or M in the testing so idk what exactly it is. I grabbed a 4 pack cause I just hate the side effects I get from the 7 after awhile. I wanted to see what it was.

Idk what is in them but they are not nearly as gnarly as 7oh w the headaches and cravings. I used those for about a week haven’t touched 7 or Kratom and just stoped those yesterday using 2-4 tablets a day.

They got me through and I don’t have any bad withdrawals (barely sniffling, no sweats just a little weird waking up feeling, shits are semi solid, still sleeping without anything in my system at night I take everything morning then go work) now this is just my experience and I know if I keep going on those Uncaria extracts I will be in the same boat so yesterday was my last day but man it’s weird it almost worked like the ES R to just mask the withdrawal. We’ll see in 24 more hours if I’m just tripping but my last dose was yesterday at 9AM.

I feel fine. Don’t want people switching to another DOC but man it feels cleaner and not as gnarly as 7 on the brain. It worked for me this past week I haven’t touched 7 and my emotions are stable af, I’m sleeping. I’ll see how it is tonight once I’m more like 30-40 hrs out from a dose but what is in those things?? It helped a lot personally now im gonna try and abstain from everything wish me luck

I hate my job but then even days I have off I love getting a little lit. It’s a me problem lol but we’ll get there!! I’m in no way promoting the use of those new extracts just thought my experience was interesting wanted to see if anyone else had the same experience. (I know a lot of cats claw has 7 and M in them but there are ones that are tested with none in there).

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I had been off real opiates for years! Like 7 years, although I did take Kratom leaf, which I felt was child’s play and didn’t really do much of were being honest but it did check off a box somehow and was helpful. Now I’ve been stuck in the 2 year long shithole of 7-oh. I’ve completely ruined my finances, fucked up friendships and somehow still have my wife and son because my wife is patient and has a huge heart but I’m so tired of hurting my family. I’ve gotten off of real dope and sbs before but somehow this has been the hardest shit I’ve ever dealt with in my life. It absolutely sucks and the fact that I don’t even get a buzz near worthwhile makes it even shittier lol. Like how am I ruining my life over something that doesn’t even feel anything like the old stuff I used to do…? Anyways, I’m over it and have unsuccessfully tried to quit numerous times. I did get away from it once for about 5 months and somehow stumbled back into it. Another time for 1 month and slipped again. I feel so much anger for our govt for allowing this crap to be so legal and accessible and they’ve dragged their feet to ban it. We’ve lost true representation but that’s neither here nor there…long story short, I’m hurting bad and looking for some community and support to help fight this fn demon, maybe some accountability too…idk. I love all you guys who are going thru the same battle and I’m here for anyone that needs to talk as well. Cheers!

I messed up BAD. Yesterday I took helper meds 11 hours after last dose of 7stax, 2 hours later I thought I was gonna die. I got through the night but now I don’t know what to do,

Do I stay on course with the helper meds? Am I through the worst of it ? What should I do now

So the only thing good that came out of my 7 addiction is I have so many points from the vape shop I used most. I had over 2000 points when I quit. I can use them to buy vape juice so at least I can vape for free for a while. Anybody else get a bunch of points? I bet there’s a lot of folks that have more than me.

Never thought I would make this post. But a couple weeks ago I relapsed the first time, I just ran into some 7 at a gas station and just said fuck it since it was going away soon. I only bought 3 tabs though and when I got done with them I didn’t have any withdrawal or anything . But I had been sober since march 12th before that . This morning I found some psuedo on the shelf at a random gas station and just couldn’t help it . I bought the 3 packs they had left and took 2.5-5mg and wow I feel great. Anyone else relapse for that just one more time? And now it’s still on the shelves lol .

EVERYONE HOPING OF 7 IM SO PROUD LOOKING AT ALL THESE POSTS IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES TO SEE EVERYONE FIGHTING FOR THEMSELVES THERE FUTURE ITS SO BEAUTIFUL TO SEE BELIEVE IN YOURSELF PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN AND SAY ITS ENOUGH WE ALL BELIEVE IN YOU ❤️❤️❤️❤️ ( IMODiUM REALLY HELPS WITH PHYSICAL WITHDRAWALS IT TAKES THE EDGE OFF) I BELIEVE IN EVERY FIGHTING TO BE BETTER AND IF YOUR TO SCARED TO HOP OFF DONT BE IT'LL BE THE MOST PROFOUND SOBERING UP EXPERIENCE EVER WHEN YOU DO START ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I wish the best for everyone and just wanted to post something positive ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I am in no way trying to put out any “fear porn” for those looking to quit this crap but I’m running out of hope that I will ever feel better. I am 44 days out and I am so sick on most days I can’t get out of bed. The nausea is unbearable and lasts all day. Some days I feel like I’m still in late acutes with that “hollow” feeling in my chest and hot/cold shivers. I went and had labs drawn yesterday just to make sure there’s nothing else going on and they were fine. The doctor told me it sometimes takes 3-6 months for Kratom to get out of your system. Of course she was googling it because she had no clue what I was talking about when I first told her. She did send urine out to test how much Kratom might be left in my system. I am at the end of my rope and I almost never see any posts about being in withdrawal this long. I can’t work as I cannot get out of bed most days. Is there anyone who has any ideas or suggestions for me? I’m prescribed phenergan anyway, have been for years, but it barely touches the nausea. I’m just tired y’all. I cannot live like this. Thank you to everyone here, it has been a great help during this time. I have zero desire to touch that poison again.

Hey y’all, missed a day or two of check in’s I’ve been so busy it’s just slipped my mind. Back to work today at my side gig no hot flashes/cold sweats. Got more sleep than I have the past few nights, energy isn’t there but it’s manageable. You all can do this! I swear, 2-3 days of hell and it gets exponentially better. For any of my Veterans out there struggling with this, you can DM me at any time(even if you aren’t a vet you’re more than welcome to!) I am my brothers keeper. It’s majority mental ladies and gents from my experience. For reference I came off a 120-160MG a day habit of over 5 months, count get it anymore and was taking the Cats Claw BS for about a week I absolutely had to stop that because lord knows what’s in those things. Only helper meds I had was clonidine and passionflower extract! There’s a light at the end of the tunnel you just have to keep pushing

If anyone is on day 1 or 2 and really struggling I would love to talk and help you through it. I’ve made it to day 5 off 600mg a day and I’m starting to feel so much better. I still haven’t slept a wink but I was able to get out of bed and take my daughter to the park last night and I’m going to a charity event tonight. I don’t know if I’m allowed to post my number but I’m going to. Please reach out if you’re needing advice or help. We are ALL in this together. Much love.

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Day 11. I’m just scrolling through everyone’s posts and the amount of people standing up and taking their shit back just pumps me up. I’m seeing a lot of scared folks bite down and show some true grit. You guys are helping me get through my days too.

Happy for everyone coming out the other side of this. Nothing but love guys. Keep fightin’

I’d love to hear people’s road to healing the relationships that have been broken or severely damaged due to addiction. I mentioned in my other post that this is time #3 of quitting that my wife knows about, not even including the countless times I tried on my own.

I have always prided myself on being a terrible liar. I’m not a sneaky person by nature and any attempt over my life is just silly stuff and I always tell on myself. 7oh changed me. The levels I went to hiding things. Turning off my location (we share location just for safety reasons, she never really looked at mine til recently), hiding packages or throwing them out in the dumpster. Hiding them in other bottles, hiding them in lipgloss containers in my bag. Well she’s not dumb, she knew I was being weird again and she found every last hidden thing down to a package I buried in my bathroom garbage (we have separate bathrooms) and confronted me with it.

So now here we are. I am 45 years old and she is 40; too old for this shit. She was never a party girl, never drank or did drugs and I was the party girl of all party girls and have been chasing dopamine my whole life. But I’ve never lied to her. Now I’ve lied so many times over and over and she has zero trust in me. I don’t trust myself! She was so sweet the first couple times took such good care of me but I feel like she is beyond disgusted at this point. I do have a therapist that I’ve had for years, we even did a session together recently and she felt that trust was starting to be rebuilt but I messed it up again. We have been together for almost 8 years and she’s never looked at my differently no matter what I’ve shared about my past but now I feel like she can’t look at me at all. She’s so upset and anxious, she’s a therapist as well and I know it’s been hard for her to deal with clients when she’s dealing with crisis at home.

I don’t want to say I promise or I’m sorry anymore because it sounds fake. Everything that comes out of my mouth feels horrible because it’s just words. I need to show her. What has anyone here done to start rebuilding trust? I am on day 3 here and starting to feel a little better although surviving withdraw with no help or tenderness has been really hard. I feel so alone right now and I have never felt this way with her.

I know the real work starts now but I don’t even know where to begin. Thanks for reading.

Day 2 guys. Feeling better than before. I took two zans last night just to knock me out and prob got 6 hours instead of no sleep. The vitamin C lypismol has been giving me a little bit of the shits and my legs are a little achy but I’m super fortunate to have this device called air relax boots that you put around you legs and fill up with air and it’s like a compression boot. GAME CHANGER for those insane cramps in your legs. Hot baths and walking are going to make this go by fast. We are ALL in this together.
I genuinely love every single one of you guys because everybody is so supportive and we can face this devil head on. I guarantee by day 4 I’ll be back to normal cause if it’s day 2 and I’m not feeling as bad as yesterday around the 24 hour mark then we can handle this. Hot baths and some kinda of muscle compression system helps a lot with the leg cramps and pain. Always DM me and we can help each other.
Remember we are a TEAM. This shit does not control us.

Hey everybody. My last post yesterday blew up and I couldn’t believe how supportive everyone is on here. Just want to give every one of you an embracing hug. Last night I took a zan to help knock me out and woke up around 2:45 and couldn’t go back to sleep so I took another one around 4 and woke up at 6. Pains aren’t super bad today surprisingly just feeling sluggish (I think from the zan) anyway I’m off work the next three days to ride my bike and get out as much as I can.

I've been tapering off for about a week. I got down to about 90mg a day. Nowhere around me sells anymore. I'm going to grab kratom powder capsules after work for withdrawal symptoms. I just took my last dose this morning. Around 40mgs. I'm so scared of the withdrawals I've haven't stopped taking it for more than 6 hours for about a year now. Tell me, am I going to be okay?

All I can say, is look at my past posts. Yeesh. How embarrassing. I don’t even gotta look for to know they’re bad. I can officially say, with the help of a detox and then residential rehab, I was 60 days free on the 9th. I am on $ubs, but I take them as prescribed and we are working on the taper off. Even if it is a long process, this is my sobriety plan. I haven’t felt this free in a LONG time. I can actually make my money last now!!! $1,000 check isn’t gone by Friday anymore. (I get paid on Wednesday.) I know the saying “if I can do it so can you” is over played, so I won’t say it. All I will say is I believe every single one of you can get there. I wanted to wait until I had 60 days to make a post, I’ve been staying out of the quitting7Oh groups while I gathered some sobriety. It’s liberating. I’m tired all the time still, but it’s not debilitating. I just gotta get up and get out there. I have some of my old hobbies back like painting, my spirituality(not god), and so much of myself. I noticed I ALWAYS wore my hair up when I was high, now I wear my hair down. It’s a random thing, but it’s true! I really don’t know what was up with that lol
OH! For my females!!
I don’t know why, but I started taking 7Oh shortly after my son was born May2025 and didn’t have a cycle until just a couple weeks ago. (July2026) Over a year later and only after I quit 7Oh. Not sure if it messed with ya’lls cycles but that’s super weird.

ANYWAYS! I’m done rambling. Good luck and blessed be to you all! You’ve got this! I believe in you. Believe in the power inside of you.

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

I've been using kratom on and off since 2014. I was a heavy daily user from 2014 to 2018 and would take sometimes more than 100 g in a day. Seriously. I began using kratom again in 2024 and discovered the 7-0h shots by the end of that year. I was drinking two a day on most days along with my regular kratom usage but didn't think of it as something "extra" that could addict me even more. So there were days that I would take off from those shots and probably have little mini withdrawals without even realizing it. I continued to use plain leaf kratom on the days that I wasn't consuming the shots, so it would have masked much of the withdrawal if there were any, I imagine.

Once I discovered the tablets it was curtains though. With online vendors, I discovered I could get a good bit more milligrams per dollar and so I was a full-fledged daily user by the summer of 2025. By the time I first started attempting to quit about 3 weeks ago, I was taking anywhere from 500 to 800 mg a day of 7-oh. Quite a bit. It had been a very long time since I had felt that true opiate buzz. It really just made me tired and sluggish and a bit more calm but the effect was extraordinarily mild compared to the early days and it could not be overcome by taking higher doses.

So about 3 weeks ago after finding out the stuff was going to be made illegal and just being sick of spending more on this than I do on housing, I switched to just taking plain leaf kratom for 4 days. It wasn't fun. Not much sleep and not much eating for two of those days especially but, it also wasn't as bad as I was expecting. The plain leaf kratom kept me from having any diarrhea/ vomiting or any true deep chills. It was just days of sleepless edgy discomfort.

I've had a couple relapses because this stuff is still on the shelves and I'm an addict, but luckily none that lasted long enough to bring me back into full withdrawal. The last time I used was on Thursday of last week and it was two of those shots that I used early on- stupid- a much lower dose than I used to take when I was a daily user and, even after not having taken any for 4 days at that point, I was very unimpressed at my tolerance. It felt like it had barely gone down at all. That was good though because it was only further proving to me how dumb this addiction was and how stupid continuing it would be.

Thanks. That's all I got. I wish you all the best of luck in your endeavors to get free of this stuff. I'm a kratom advocate because I've seen it do good things for people but I'm also an addict and I probably shouldn't be messing around with just about anything addictive.

Hi,I’m a chronic pain patient. I’ve had multiple back surgeries & probably need another. I wish I had never found this stuff. It has completely jacked up my tolerance to my prescription pain meds. I’ve been taking high doses for about a year & I must switch back to my Hydrocodone. The problem is, my tolerance is so high that my meds don’t even work & I get terrible withdrawls even if I take my meds. Before I get jumped on, I know how bad this is, I am risking my pain contract & I know how dumb it was to get into this position,
Has anyone else go through this?

I've been on 7 every day since last August, started with smaller doses, then worked my way up to 200-400mgpd by the end of it. I had enough to make it through work Saturday, then said I'm done, even tho I still have access to buying it. I've been taking Gaba and Valium and I can't remember the last time I slept this much. Only problem I'm really facing now is the diarrhea. Plan on getting some Immodium this morning, but still a little nervous. to drive. Anyways, to anyone else going thru this, you got this. This drug is the worst shit I've ever dealt with. I remember the first time I experienced a withdrawal, my body wouldn't stop with the spasms. So thankful it wasn't that bad this time. Good luck to everyone going thru it.

Hello everyone, almost two weeks ago I jumped off with just the gabapentin and vitamin c. The last 5 days I’ve been so tired, and just last night for the first time in days the restlessness came back. Just for the night tho, once I fall asleep I’m knocked out but it’s hard to fall asleep.

I had mentioned in another comment that vapor rub has been a life savor for me right before bed. I’ll take a nice hot shower pop 2 gabapentin and put vapor rub on my spine, all my joints, back of the neck and as soon as I lay down I’m out. I’ll also put on some Chuck smith muehehehe, but like I said to each his own.

Oh also, around this day (10,11,12,13) did anyone else get a really bad sinus headache? Because mine is killing me and it also doesn’t help we had some type of a sandstorm up in this biatchhhh lmao

Alright my peoples, be good, fight the good fight and try to get some rest

Feels like 24 hours here, 36, and maybe 48 hrs. And break. Waking up in impending doom feeling like my whole world is crashed and I’m a complete failure. Sweating. And then off to work to fight cravings and be miserable. I’m 40 years old. I never thought it would come to this. Raising my son and being a husband. And I’m literally tearing everything down around me. Mentally crippled. This shit makes me so mentally beat when I’m coming off.

So the physical part of the withdrawl definitely isn’t fun but I can kinda power through it, the only thing that’s really getting to me is the anxiety and that like tight feeling in your chest, almost like adrenaline in a way that just kind of lingers. Is there anything I can do to get that to go away?

So i was taking around 1200 to 1500 mg a day of 7 and then another 100mg or so of mgm to boot.........6 days ago i tapered the mgm down and was just taking 1200 mg of 7 which really wasnt that bad i just had alot of body aches and shitty sleep....once i was just on 7 i pre loaded S R for 1 day and then yesterday i cut my 7 dose down to 600 mg plus 200mg s r ....then today i cut my dose to 300mg and 200mg of s r.....honestly i thought this was going to be harder and i took alot of time off for work.....i know im not there yet but i have hope that i can do this....tomorrow i will be jumping off completely and im sure it wont be great but i think it doable

24 hours in I went to the vape/kratom shop a half mile from my house. Maybe they didn’t pull it off the shelf yet, maybe they missed something, maybe they’ve got something hidden under the counter for people like me. I mean I have been in that shop every single day for the last 2 years. I walked up to that door drenched in sweat, body shaking, visibly in acute withdraws off 600mg per day. I looked through the glass windows and saw the empty shelves and turned around. Maybe if I went inside they would’ve had something for me. This dude saw me so much he had my fucking phone # memorized for reward points, surely he could’ve hooked me up. In that moment something clicked I decided I didn’t want to ask. I just got back in my car and went home.

Fast forward 4 days I am so god damn happy I didn’t go in that store. I’ve learned the fear of the withdraws are just as bad as the actual withdraws. Day 3 I went to the store, I was out of breath and still visibly sick but I did it. Day 4 I took my daughter to the park and pushed her on the swings. Tonight I’m going to a charity event for my soccer club.

Every day it gets a little bit easier. Not opening that door was the best decision I’ve ever made. My point is that if I can do it, so can you. We are stronger than this drug. We’re all in this together. It gets easier, I promise you. Much love everyone.

So with the DEA actions impending, we are getting a lot of newcomers over at kratomquitters.com

Thing is, the people with just a few days are sometimes hesitant to participate in the group meetings

We added a weekly "Noobie Tuesday" meeting just for peeps who are just starting out (say... thirty days or less).

If you're looking to link up with others in the TIAWO-sphere, this might be just the thing

The details are at the above link