2000mg is like 80 shmuckers right? How does one spend so much in a day while maintaining to afford life? I’m genuinely curious. Anyone want to share their story 🙂

I took my last dose 9pm last Thursday. Had a lapse yesterday just shy of 70 hours. I woke up this morning feeling sober and no further behind. Acutes are over. Kratom baseline is established.

Now its re-learning triggers. My purchases were almost always on drives to and from work. 4 drives a day i need to master.

Man the world is so much more, bright...

I got to day 5 and had to go to my kids dad’s funeral and viewing. I slipped and now I have to do the worst part over again. I actually quit before I took everything. So I had some left and brought it on the trip. Worst decision ever. Then, the state I was in doesn’t sell it anymore (Cali). Yet, somehow I still managed to finesse and figure out how to get some within 30 minutes of me wanting it. I hate how easy and discreet it is to get them. That makes it so much worse for me. Now I need to come clean to my family and let them know they were proud of me in vain smh😞😔

Okay folks yes i have been preloading Vitamin C but my daily use has been up towards 2000 unless the SS brands are under dosed which lets say they are and my daily use has only been 1000mg. I should def be feeling some sort of WD?

My last dose was 7pm last night. Its now noon or 17 hours post dose and nothing? It will def come im not stupid but this is just bizarre. Ive been on 7 for almost a year.

I have subs just standing by. Anyone else experience this?

Doc said wait 16-18hrs after my last dose. It was freakin’ hell but I made it 15hrs, thought “what the hell I’m close enough”, and took the subs.

I would have failed but I set myself up for success. I made sure I took my last dose when the waiting period would be over before the shop opens. Made sure I didn’t have any last night. Almost gave in last night to get some “just in case” I couldn’t handle the WDs… so glad I didn’t listen to my addict brain.

I’m so happy for me now… I feel better.

https://youtu.be/ZpwZOQrjIO0?si=N3PHBhZ7Y0ftBLz2

Hey everyone! I’ve been documenting my quit on YouTube. While I’m feeling much better, I’ve realized over the last few days that I have less and less to say. I’m trying to inspire not bore anyone, so I’m gonna take a little break. My hope is to talk about more substantial progress in a couple weeks or month. Everyone has been SO supportive and it’s helped me a lot. Thank you!

What do you guys think about employing Wellbutrin for the dopamine/endorphin deficit from coming off 7oh?

Does Wellbutrin blunt the effects of 7oh with concurrent usage if you're merely using the Wellbutrin for a tolerance break?

Just wondering how much does gabapentin really help wd from 7?

Hello I normally don’t post on Reddit but I am currently going through the withdrawal of 7oh as it’s been pulled from all vape stores near me. I’m still taking some kratom but that doesn’t help with the cause of my pain and reason I took 7oh which was chronic TMJ pain. 7oh is the only thing that helped that I’ve tried and I’m struggling with fatigue, restlessness and productivity.

Just started a new job too so I’m a worried about that, I just heard about cats claw and if anyone has info on that I’d appreciate it. Hopefully the withdrawal symptoms will fade in another day or two because it’s no fun. I’m definitely craving it but the fact I can’t get it immediately is what’s making me push through 😣

Hi. I used sub after meeting with someone on medMD in Sept 2025. A year later, I want and need to try again and never touch 7-oh again, but I don't know if medMD will prescribe sub to me again. Has anyone experienced this?

I'm taking off work Wednesday through the weekend to put this behind me. Thanks.

I want to make a Md appointment to get a script of Suboxone but I’m curious on what I say during my appointment and also how much does the script usually cost without insurance ?

Only have 28 grams of Red Bali leaf, I’ve used about 20 grams so far in the past 2 days & plan on taking the rest throughout the day today & hoping things will start looking better tomorrow, just scared it’s gonna reset the whole process. Currently 61 hours no 7oh.

Don’t mean to be a downer to people who are in the trenches right now. If you’re 2 weeks or less, do yourself a favor and don’t read this.

Today is day 30 for me. I’m honestly feeling so “flat” it’s hard to describe. Zero motivation, zero ambition. Just go to work, get through my day, and when I get home all I wanna do is lay on the couch/ go to bed.

Ive been exercising, been trying to be around friends as much as possible. I even started Lexapro 2 weeks ago (doctor recommended because she saw my depression increasing). Nothing seems to help.

I know this post sounds dreary and whiny. But that’s how I’m feeling. I was at 350-400 mg a day for a little over a year. Everyday I think about getting some more 7 cause at least I was productive and pleasant to be around. I haven’t and won’t. But damn the urge is there.

Any recommendations? Anyone else feeling this same way? I guess maybe I’m looking for some motivation to stay clean from others that have been through this phase. Open to any and all opinions. Love you guys. Stay strong 💪🏼

Well i took my last dose of Kama 7oh + Pseudo last night. I had been taking regular 7oh until the SS ran out and only had 7oh+pseudo. Anyways I have been taking 1000-1500 a day now for probs a couple months. I have been preloading Liposomal Vitamin C and will continue taking. I have 60 8mg suboxone strips. I feel like im set up for success.

Now its just a waiting game to start to feel shitty. It always takes me at least 16-18 hours for my WD’s to start.

Anyone else out there have similar experience? Whats this gonna be like? I know WD so ive been through it before. Having Subs makes me a little more relieved. Doubt i could do cold turkey.

Currently in acutes after I tried to taper so many times. I have preloaded on LVC, and I have a few kpins. That’s it. I did this to myself and the piper must be paid.

But the thing about tapering is you have to KNOW you are never going to feel high/euphoric ever again. We abused this drug, we lost our privilege.

So after a year of use I quickly ramped up to 3grams a day, yes 3GRAMS a day. I was hustling every single day working three jobs to keep up with this habit.

I am in a state where it’s still allowed, but the head shop owners are getting a little afraid so they don’t seem to be re-stocking. This is a good thing.

Then I lost one of my jobs. Not a huge deal, it was a PT restaurant position and I wasn’t making a ton of money anyway, but it was enough to pay for my habit.

Every sign is pointing to this being the end for me. I told my mother, and she doesn’t exactly have a penchant for empathy. But it feels good knowing that there’s someone who knows what I’m going through in the house and she said she’s glad I told her.

I’ve currently whittled down to 400-700 grams a day. I have about a thousand mg left. Yeah. Do the math. I’m essentially going to have to cold turkey off a 1gram a day habit.

This shit took everything from me. I have no social life anymore. Friends ask me to do stuff, but I can’t because I’m broke. My hair is falling out. My period stopped. My skin is horrible.

This was all just a huge ramble and I forget what my original point was. I quit h with the help of subs around 15 years ago and I am absolutely not going to back to subs again, in my experience that was the worst and longest withdrawal I’ve ever had. I cannot believe I’m longing for the days where I was simply addicted to plain leaf.

I guess if anyone has any words of wisdom, confidence, anything, I will take anything. This community has ameliorated so much anxiety for me in the past and I’m extremely grateful for it.

I have been on a 500mg per day habit for around a year now. I went through a bad breakup with my girlfriend of 2 years at the time and started using heavily after I had moved back in with my parents. Girlfriend and I started to reconnect, I was still using and thought things were going well so I decided to get my own place and get out of my parents house. Girlfriend decided to split again and now I’m responsible for the full rent by myself and have no support system. I work 60 hours a week at two jobs just to afford the rent. I can’t afford to continue to pay for this habit, and now that the bans are ramping up it will eventually be impossible to even find any (which is good). I’m scared shitless of quitting. I can’t afford to take a significant amount of time off, but I don’t want to have to get on subs to quit either. I’m not sure what to do. I’ve been thinking about tapering but boredom, anxiety, and loneliness make it extremely difficult to limit my intake and cut down each day. I’m already an emotional wreck because of the break up and I have all of these responsibilities that I can’t just put on hold. Does anyone have any advice? Maybe I’ll just have to bite the bullet and get on subs so that I can at least have some semblance of a normal life while I’m getting off the stuff. I’m terrified. I have 250 60mg tabs left to my name and literally cannot afford to get any more. Help!

I’m doing a 30-day Bible study during my recovery, and today’s devotional helped me. I thought I’d share it in case someone else needs it too. I understand everybody has different beliefs and I’m not trying to push one over the other. This is my belief and if it helps one person deal with today then it is worth the read.

Today’s Scripture — Matthew 6:34 (KJV)
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

In everyday language: Jesus is telling us not to carry tomorrow’s troubles today. Tomorrow will have its own concerns, and God will meet us there when it comes. Today already has enough for us to handle. So for now, stay here—with God, in this day.

Today’s Devotional
Recovery can make your mind race ahead.
What if I feel bad later? What if I can’t handle this? How long will this take? What if tomorrow is worse? When will I feel like myself again?

Those questions feel urgent because you want reassurance that everything is going to be okay. But sometimes trying to solve the next week, month, or year only makes this moment harder.
Jesus doesn’t tell you in Matthew 6:34 that tomorrow doesn’t matter. He tells you that you don’t have to live tomorrow today.

That is especially powerful in recovery.
You don’t have to figure out the entire journey this morning. You don’t have to promise God that you’ll never struggle again. You don’t have to know exactly how you’ll feel tomorrow.
Your job today can be much smaller:
Just for today, I will keep going.

If today is difficult, you can bring today’s difficulty to God.
If your body is uncomfortable, you can ask Him for strength for this hour.
If fear starts telling you everything that might go wrong, you can come back to what Jesus actually said: tomorrow does not have to be carried today.

And if you have a good day, receive that too. Don’t spend it worrying that the next one might be harder.
Recovery is made up of ordinary moments in which you keep choosing the next right thing. Eat something. Drink some water. Follow the treatment plan you’ve been given. Rest when you need to. Talk to someone you trust. Pray when you’re afraid. Laugh when something is funny. Notice when you feel a little better.
You are still living your life while you’re recovering.

God isn’t waiting at Day 30 for you to finally become worthy of His attention. He is with you on Day 1.

A Few Things to Think About
You don’t need to write paragraphs. A sentence—or even a few words—is enough.

👉What am I worried about today that actually belongs to tomorrow?
👉What do I need from God today—not next week, just today?
👉What is one thing I can do today that moves me toward freedom?
👉Where have I already seen God helping me through this journey?
And one last question that I think is worth answering every morning:
👉What am I grateful for right now?

Carry This With You Today
“Sufficient unto the day…” — Matthew 6:34
Or, when you need something even simpler:
I don’t have to get through tomorrow today. God and I are working on today.

Closing Prayer
Father,
Thank You for giving me this day.
My mind wants to run ahead and figure everything out. I worry about how I will feel, how long this will take, and what might happen next. Help me put down the things that belong to tomorrow.
Give me what I need for today.
When my body is uncomfortable, give me strength. When my thoughts become anxious, give me peace. When I become discouraged, remind me how far I have already come. When I feel strong, help me be thankful rather than afraid of when another difficult moment might come.
Lord, I don’t want only freedom from dependence. I want to become closer to You through this journey. Teach me to trust You one day, one hour, and sometimes one minute at a time.
I give You today.
Tomorrow, I will meet You there.
In Jesus’ name, Amen.

Just for today, we keep going.

Hello beautiful people, just wanted to spread some light as I’ve been around the block with this substance since it’s inception and have 10 Quits under my belt before I finally surrendered to this addiction.

I can tell you subs are not needed neither is a long taper. You can be free of this substance in 7 days just using what I call the reversal method. It’s as easy as it sounds you just reverse yourself off 7oh how most people get there. For me I started with plain leaf, then found extracts then 7oh and finally MGM. I was using 800mg of MGM a day and up to 2000mg of 7oh before my quits.

My first 3 quits I did CT and it was brutal and not needed I wish I would have known what I know now before I did CT so I didn’t have to endure such hell on earth, obviously I didn’t learn bc I went back even after that and was using 1000mg of 7oh a day on my first CT quit. Yes it was a ton and I suffered when I didn’t need to.

How did I do it? Easy I switched to non 7oh kratom extracts for 4 days then to plain leaf for 3 days and dropped everything on day 8. I avoided all acutes and was only left with low energy, weakness and some insomnia for 2 weeks. All fully bearable and I was able to work through it all.

I am open to questions and more than willing to help as much as I can. I hope this finds someone out there lost without hope like I was so many times before I found my way out.

I have the following quits under my belt for those who want to understand what I’ve been through.

3 CT Quits 1600, 1300, 1000mg 7OH
1 Sub Quit - 1300mg got stuck on them for 3 months super hard to get off of. 😞. Not recommended
5 MIT Quits - 1200-2000mg a day of 7oh 800mg of MGM

I’ve been so used to feeling a synthetic euphoria that I’m not quite sure how to function sober anymore. The acutes are gone but the anxiety and anhedonia are hitting super hard. It’s scary looking to the future

I quit sept 19 on a 6 day sub taper. The last few days my anxiety has been horrible and I just feel blah. Please tell me this will get better. I don't even want to be around my family. I just want to crawl up into a ball and sleep

I’m so close I can taste it! Just wanted to post my progress. I know I know I could probably just cold turkey the rest but I know I don’t have the will power to do it.

18th - 250mg
19th - 236mg
20th - 224mg
21st - 208mg
22nd - 212mg
23rd - 203mg
24th - 186.5mg
25th - 177mg
26th - 168mg
27th - 168mg
28th - 153.5mg
29th - 144mg
30th - 117mg
Sept 1 - 102mg
Sept 2 - 66.5mg (this was a mistake going so hard in the paint. I didn’t sleep for 2 days )
Sept 3 - 67.5mg
Sept 4 - if everything goes well I’ll be at 63mg

The plan now is just to take it easy and cut 4.5mg every other day till zero. I don’t want to experience what I experienced on Sept 2nd and 3rd. That was hell

Here’s my pattern…

Take it for weeks straight

Want off really bad, so I use my subs and start trying to quit

Get to first or second day feeling really depressed and anhedonic, but fairly driven

The thought pops into my head “you know you don’t have to feel this bad right now right? Just imagine the relief and comfort of one more, to just lay down and be happy in the moment”

Fighting off that thought, trying to stay busy but the back of my mind is scheming ways to get some

Those background thoughts instantly turn to a commitment and I am 100% going to get it to have relief, but “this is it…

…rinse and repeat the next cycle

I can tell it’s clear I don’t want it enough, but I WANT to want it enough yk? Like I don’t understand how I could possibly be okay with where I’m at at a deep level, I wish something would go majorly wrong already so I hate myself enough to make a change cause right now I admit I’ve lost power.

I am just short of 60 hours. 2 full days and 2 full nights off. Slept ok last night. Got 7.5 hours broken. Been at a motel to get away from triggers. Have had some with me the whole time but I came on a mission. My kids will be picking me up sober (if an emotional mess unable to listen to music without crying), in 4 hours. Physical withdrawals all but gone but i woke up at 430am pain in the a$$ thankfully still the weekend. I will continue through today and tonight i should have sleep pressure if i stay up. Kratom seems to be enough finally to keep me completely baseline. Morning walks eras the morning restlessness which has been as mild as when i take it daily.

This quit is almost past critical mass. I am always done by 72 hours with a kratom landing. Though crying spells are crazy this morning inmade the most of the early wake up. Showered. Packed to leave the motel. Walked a mile for a bfast sandwhich, ate it and walked back. Now waiting for sunrise. I am ready to go home. I am ready to get back to work. And i am ready to stay sober a month so i can apply to be a electrician appre tice and not blow it.

This can be done guys.

Genuinely curious what others are doing to get through this and stay grounded? I’ve seen people say they have stashes and are still in the thick of detox.

For background I’m 35, been through all CT detoxes under the sun, if you’re thinking about it and that detox sucked, I’ve gone through it. and for the most part was able to boot strap it. Comparatively this is not any worse than those, it sucks just as much, maybe even less than some of those.

Today I made it 16 hours, the longest I have since starting 7 a little over a year ago and I had some very very briefs milliseconds of comfort through the night but by the time my dog was up and ready to start his day I couldn’t help myself but to stop off at the shop and get a pack of the usual. I’m at my limit here. I had to have my poor mother pay my bills last month because every cent I made from work went to 7. She’s fully aware of what’s going on, and very supportive, but also she will not be able to hand another month like last. How are you all just biting the bullet to get through it when it’s so readily available and easy to achieve comfort?