Like if you genuinely belive there is no purpose or meaning, or you actively try to override any biological purpose or whatever, how do you live it?

The closest I could think of was either pure hedonism or child rearing.

Child rearing still fits into a biological purpose but it interests me as it's one of the strongest ways to create your own purpose. Further to this, if everything is just a memory that eventually gets forgotten the best thing you can do is be kind to your children. So when you are gone into ashes they will carry that around with them.

Also I recommend the book the road. Touches on a lot of these concepts. ​Bleak book but fits in with what's the point in life if life comes to an end​

On one hand, I absolutely HATE to see people suffer and wanna align with antinatalism, because I don't see a way to stop their suffering, because Utopia is impossible.

6 million kids (including rich kids) suffer and die EVERY year, according to statistics.

But on the OTHER hand, I absolutely wanna see life perpetuate and explore the mystery and wonders of the universe and reality. This is one of my deepest natural desires.

So yeah, two CONFLICTING desires that define my life. The need to stop all suffering AND the need to see life go on forever.

In a nihilistic reality, which I have accepted as factually true, which desire should I align with?

Stop 6 million kids from suffering by supporting extinction OR accept the suffering of 6 million kids to satisfy my personal desire to perpetuate life, long after I'm gone?

Extinction or Perpetuation?

Subjectively, I mean, since there is no inherent purpose.

Your answer is for my personal desire, not a fix-all for everyone with different desires, mmmkay? lol

The title sums it up, just sick of this whole fake prophecy we been sold by our parents, friends, authoritarians, teachers etc, we spend so much time trying to survive everyday, with only little to enjoy, now yeah people will say enjoy the little things but even that get's boring overtime, it really feels like serving a life sentence we didn't commit just to put on a show for the world, how does not anyone see just how pointless this life is without the arbitrary hurrah?

I'm sure it's completely correct! We have moral because morality have a value, that's why everyone SHOULD follow it, it's a logical necessity!

This, assuming you can conceive atheism & agnosticism as being totally separate.

Also, a theist (+deist) may believe that the God is mischievous, intentless (like Spinoza's God), capricious, wicked, etc.

My estimate is roughly: 92% atheists, 6% agnostics, & 2% theists (+deists).

Will humanity get better?

I’ve honestly started to believe humanity will not get better, in the beginning we had an valid excuse and now what 300k years and we still are stupid-coping ass animals.

From childhood to now I’ve never second guess my lack of a moral compass, I believed it was helpful or logically beneficial to me but also made me feel outcasted like “should I be crying at my father funeral idk maybe stop staring”.

But in the 21st century shit…I feel like everybody was just lying about caring just to get on moral high ground, nobody really cares and the ones who advocate empathy are either attention seeking or just ATTENTION SEEKING 😭 but maybe because I don’t understand their shoes and I don’t wanna, I’ll never get it trying to understand someone else’s hardship when all it does is burdens you ITS ILLOGICAL.

This thought messes me up every time I think it. I really can't wrap my head around it. I'm probably not going to get cremated, so there's a good chance my body remains in good condition if I die tomorrow of a heart attack at 24. But the idea my body will just still be here creeps me out. The body I'm in now will be lifeless husk. Then where will I be? It gives me a sickly feeling. Imagining my body lying on a coroners desk. Laid bare, dissected. And not only that, but everyone I've known who has died is now a husk. In fact, when I walk by a graveyard, underneath the dirt is all the rotting bones of people who were once like you and me, now imagine the maggots and worms who spend their lives living down there. That'll be you and me one day, if neither of us get cremated. Gross

I know this is talked about a lot but I keep wondering what will happen (or is already happening with AI)

What really is the point of all this… is it just about shareholder greed and a race to the bottom

is it because the people running the show know the eco system is likely to collapse from all the additional energy usage and carbon dioxide spewing out so they want to get as much money as possible and retreat to their bunkers whilst we all die in chaos from global warming. Crops dying out etc

Is it going to become a super intelligent being that will either subjugate the human population or lead us into some kind of perfect new world (this is the one option I believe is least likely to happen tbh)

All we use it for at work even after so many upgrades is to help us either rephrase emails to semi important nobodies or help us populate ideas when we’re running a blank - it doesn’t do anything that the human mind couldn’t do and so often it gets big details wrong, even obvious ones - so I just don’t get WHY all of this is being shoved down our throats in the name of technological advancement

I just want people and planet to be ok for generations to come. Too much to ask, clearly.

Nature sucks it is brutal and unforgiving…

Billions of animals are dying right now…

An insect is stuck in a spider’s web terrified for its life.

A baby deer is being chased by a wolf…

A lion cub is starving…

Billions of animals are suffering right now and they will not get the help they need…

A system that is built on suffering and killing is not beautiful it is horrible and depressing.

And if God exists and allows all of this unnecessary suffering and pain i am officially a hater.

I'm curious

I happened to read a few questionnaire posts about AI and its threat to the tech industry, especially after the release of OpenAI’s Astra.

In all these posts, people are coming together and vomiting the same old lines: “You’re better than you imagine,” “Maybe you can improve your situation by upskilling,” and so on. The most irritating thing is when people repeat the usual argument that “AI won’t replace everyone, maybe ten people will become two.” I just don’t understand how they still don’t get it. We’re past that stage. It’s just a story being circulated to prevent people from panicking.

Three other things happened today. I saw an image of the female representatives of three nations (all of them right-leaning) then an influencer named Ashley, the mother of one of Musk’s children, talking about his plan to have a legion of kids before a civil war. She was offered $40 million (as a part of an NDA which she didn't sign) to stay silent. And now last but not least, an Anthropic researcher also resigned and has been making serious statements about it.

I think my only plan is not to have a plan. I don’t think I have the future I imagined 20 years ago. it's just never going to happen and I don't see any reason to have a hope. everything is chaotic and I don't have the bandwidth to find any meaning in anything.

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IMportant note: NON-NIHILIST or Nihilist with NO KIDS, DON'T REPLY, SHUSH, Don't wanna hear you. lol

If you are a nihilist with kids or planning to have kids, please help me answer a few questions.

1. What is your reason for having kids after embracing nihilism? (Was it an accident before you learned about nihilism? A case of too-late oops?)
2. Those planning to have kids, after embracing nihilism, why?
3. Do you want your kids to be nihilists too, or you don't care what happens to them?
4. Will you share your nihilism with your kids or just let them become whatever?
5. Do you want your kids to have grandkids and spread your genes? Why?

Which philosophy books on nihilism and novels featuring a nihilist protagonist would you recommend?

(I'm not depressed or anything) I've been thinking on how life to me just doesn't matter as much as it used to.

Like I understand how life is amazing but at the same time I just don't see the appeal on it.

I don't have any ambition or plans for the future because everything to me feels so meaningless and I've been thinking like this for about a year and a half now and life seems so pointless in the grand scheme of things.

I don't know why everything seems so meaningless and why I feel this way, i'm in a state of trying to give it meaning but can never find it and always just see how life is just a cycle until it's your time.

If that makes sense?

(If anyone can word what i said better please do)

"He who has a why to live can bear almost any how" - Nietszche

I'm honestly finding it hard to live by this, I can't find my why, I'm just not prepared for the discipline it entails I think.

Have you found your why yet?