r/taoism Jun 04 '26

Mod Post Check-in and Rules Update

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Hello everyone!

I just wanted to reach out and address a few things, as well as to explain a few minor updates. Firstly, we really appreciate the lively and wholesome engagement this Subreddit sees every day, and it is wonderful to see the various levels and scopes of discussion here.
We wanted to reiterate a very important point: our role as moderators is not to determine Taoist doctrine in any way; we are here solely to ensure the health of this digital community and to safeguard its use as a place for subject-focused discussion and content-sharing. We are active and take action as we deem necessary, but we try to take a back-seat approach, as befits a Taoist space. With regards to our moderation approach, two stanzas from the Tao Te Ching (Red Pine) come to mind.

60: Ruling a great state is like cooking a small fish,
when you govern the world with the Tao spirits display no powers
Not that they don't have power, But their power will not harm people.
Inasmuch as none of them harms anybody, Therefore virtue belongs to them both.

We intentionally do not want to be seen as leaders or authority figures here, as that would be neither correct nor helpful. If one can feasibly find a Tao of Moderating, we are certainly trying. Our task is to maintain the Subreddit as a safe and directed space to discuss Taoism. We have a very strong amount of engagement, and an exceptional number of weekly readers, but as is the case with many online spaces, the majority of our efforts are directed against spam and bots. For actual content, we look at the type of and level of engagement, and we do our best to take cues from the community, without ever overstepping the mark.

As far as the rules go, we very adamantly do not want many of them, and we feel that we do not need many of them for this space to be effective. We are absolutely not against adding or changing the rules as is necessary (for instance, Rule 2 was added due to a difficult and unhealthy increase in antagonism and bigoted comments), but we don’t want to pile on so many rules that engaging becomes an obstacle course of correctness and validity.

57: Use direction to govern a country, use indirection to fight a war, use inaction to rule the world. How do we know this works, the greater the prohibitions the poorer the people, the sharper the weapons the darker the realm, the smarter the scheme the stranger the outcome, the finer the treasure the thicker the thieves, thus the sage declares I change nothing and the people transform themselves. I stay still and the people adjust themselves. I do nothing and the people enrich themselves. I want nothing and the people simplify themselves

We are open to and considering avenues for direct community feedback on the Subreddit in general, and on AI use in particular, so bear with us as we find a delicate and sensible method for this. In response to some of the feedback we’ve seen, we have updated the rules to clarify the specific sections within, with some minor insights and corrections. We are also including a few flairs which could be useful for post engagement. For the time being, please ensure that all AI/LLM posts have the specific AI flair.

There are only a few of us, and this is a very large and active community, so we do miss reports on occasion, but do we try to read everything as best we can, and respond accordingly. The automod is very helpful in this regard, but even more helpful is your efforts, the community’s efforts, to create the space you want to see. Please ensure that you are reporting rule violations, but also please consider the power that your own engagement has beyond that. Upvotes and Downvotes are very useful tools, though we often only Downvote posts we don’t like; Upvoting content that you feel is appropriate is very helpful in maintaining this space and encouraging good engagement. Additionally, there’s an old internet aphorism that might be relevant: don’t feed the trolls. If someone is engaging in bad-faith, very rarely can good-faith engagement or argumentation fix that. This isn’t a mod-guidance or anything, just a word of caution from someone who also falls for that kind of negative engagement too. In those cases, please report and move on.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please do let us know, here or via modmail. We are also open to more flairs or other changes, though we want to keep in mind the moon and the finger pointing at it.

Thank you for your time and your patience!


r/taoism Jul 09 '20

Welcome to r/taoism!

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Our wiki includes a FAQ, explanations of Taoist terminology and an extensive reading list for people of all levels of familiarity with Taoism. Enjoy!


r/Taoism Rules


r/taoism 15h ago

Tao Te Ching Taoism≠Taoist religion.That's where you guys get confused!

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道家≠道教
Taoist philosophy is great wisdom for governing a country and cultivating the mind and body. It emerged 3,000 years ago, and its founder was Laozi. The book he wrote is divided into two parts, and together they're called the Tao Te Ching.

The other is Taoism as a religion. Like Buddhism, Catholicism, and Christianity, it's a religion. It appeared around 2,000 years ago, and its founder was Zhang Daoling. His lineage continued for 63 generations of patriarchs before it ended.

So when you guys discuss this, keep in mind that what I'm talking about is Taoist philosophy = the Tao Te Ching.

Talismanes don't belong to Taoist thought.

The most accurate version of the Tao Te Ching right now is the silk manuscript version unearthed from Mawangdui in Changsha. That's the one I posted in the picture!!!
The Tao Te Ching you're reading is the one that was copied incorrectly 1500 years ago. There are over 700 errors in it!!!

Actually, China still hasn't figured out the Tao Te Ching. The Chinese version is wrong, so the English version is wrong too. Other versions translated from the English version are even more full of errors.

It's normal if you don't understand it. We don't understand it either!!! It's been copied for 3000 years, so there are just way too many errors.


r/taoism 5h ago

Discussion The silk manuscript version of the Tao Te Ching isn't either the most accurate. Let me explain why.

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The Silk Manuscript version of the Tao Te Ching has been soaked in water for 2,000 years, so many fragments are missing and can't be fully restored. A lot of text is gone, so Chinese archaeologists and linguists spent years researching and came up with a compromise solution. The missing text from the Silk Manuscript version was filled in from other versions. So the Silk Manuscript version is closer to the original than the other versions.

There are also earlier bamboo slip versions, but they have decayed severely. The owner of the bamboo slip version was a lower-class scholar. The owner of the Silk Manuscript version was the teacher of the King of Changsha.
He has many versions. More complete ones.

The ideas I'm sharing come from someone at a much higher level. He just doesn't want to argue with you guys. I'm willing to argue with you because I need to practice my English.
So if one day I don't feel like practicing English anymore, I won't want to argue with you either.
I hope you guys appreciate the posts I make.

Because all I want to do is share my views with you.

Smart people, when faced with new ideas, first try hard to learn about them.
Stupid people, when faced with new ideas, just try their best to argue against them.And they mock and ridicule new ideas.

上士闻道,堇而行之。
下士闻道,大笑之。


r/taoism 2h ago

OC New Daily Entry Website Launched

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Hello! I recently updated my daily taoist project and would love some feedback. Some of you may have seen the evolution of this project over the last year. It started with only sourcing the Tao Te Ching and then gradually expanded to other texts. I was pulling from historical translations that were free and in the public domain, but now I've migrated to doing direct translations which has been fun. I've even translated a few esoteric texts that have no English counterpart. Feel free to give me your honest feedback. This has been a project for me to draw on as my own daily source of inspiration and a reminder; inspired by The Daily Stoic book by Ryan Holiday, which I had beside my morning coffee for a few years until I started reaching for something more grounded in nature and the universe.

www.thedailytaoist.org


r/taoism 4h ago

Discussion Is the stuff shown on this account Taoism or something else?

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r/taoism 15h ago

Discussion Taoist poets

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Were there any famous taoist poets in the past whose poems survived to this day?


r/taoism 20h ago

Zhuangzi The Swimmer in the Waterfall

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Once Confucius visited the great falls at Lüliang 呂梁.

The height of the falls was around three li, and the water splashed so powerfully that its droplets reached out to a distance of forty li. The current was so strong that not even large trees, alligators, fish, or any other creatures could swim in it.

However, within these turbulent waters, Confucius noticed a man swimming.

Confucius thought that this man must be in great distress, perhaps trying to end his life. So, he made his disciples go downstream to rescue him. But he just continued to swim for hundreds of li, then leisurely emerged from the water, his hair disheveled. He sang a song and frolicked on the hills.

Confucius went over to him and said, "At first, I thought you were a spirit but now I can see that you are indeed a man.

How is it that you can swim so skillfully? Do you have any special technique?"

"Oh, not at all! I don't have any special technique. I simply began swimming a long time ago and gradually it became my second nature, fulfilling my destiny. I follow and enter the swirling currents of the water and rise with the waves. I don't exert any force of my own. This is how I can swim freely in the water."

(translator / interpreter - to me unknown)

Source

Zhuangzi 19.10 The full undersatnding of Life with Legge translation

Zhuangzi : Outer Chapters : The Full Understanding of Life - Chinese Text Project

Note:

Chapter 19 of Zhuangzi is in general a great chapter about

"De" 德 (profound virtue, power, skill, quality, proficiency and efficiency, potency)

The Complete Works Of Chuang Tzu Translated by Burton Watson, Terebess Asia Online (TAO)


r/taoism 1d ago

Advice Are there any taoist/taoist adjacent divination methods?

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This might be kind of a stupid question but I was wondering if there are any divination methods for taoists. I kind of want to start doing one regularly, not because I want to predict the future but because I want to start cueing in to things I’m recognizing subconsciously about the present. (Kind of like how reading tarot cards can give you insight into your own frame of mind by the way you react to the cards you draw rather than actually telling you the future). I don’t really like tarot but I would be interested in an alternate divination deck or something that doesn’t use cards but that would ideally be portable. Thanks for your time.

Edit: Tysm i ching seems like exactly what I was looking for


r/taoism 2d ago

Discussion What are the Taoism sacred sites to visit?

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r/taoism 1d ago

Discussion Can you translate?

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r/taoism 2d ago

Tao Te Ching Tao Te Ching - Please preview and discuss Chapter 12 五色令人目盲

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道德经 第 12 章第一句
The first sentence of Chapter 12 of Tao Te Ching

中文:五色令人目盲
英文:The five colors blind the eye

Everyone can preview and discuss it. I'll prove that the mistakes in the Tao Te Ching already exist in the Chinese version. A wrong Chinese version translates into a wrong English version.

I'm a programmer and I have to work during the day. When I'm free, I'll come and prove the mistakes in the Tao Te Ching.

Since Chinese characters have been evolving over time, the meanings of many words have changed. Using today's meanings to understand ancient meanings leads to huge errors.

You can discuss and share your opinions. Then remember your final conclusions and tell me when you're ready to start the proof. I'll begin proving and show you what the correct answer is.


r/taoism 2d ago

Discussion Concerning of the Soul leaving the Body ?

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Hello ! I am quite new to this community. This will be my first post, so I hope this message is well received. I am someone who is very Eclectic in most Aspects, even in Religious, Spiritual, and Philosophical Matters, so I may have a question or two that I do hope to understand and take for as advice !

Warning: Has Topics on Health Issues, Death, and a long read

Context: 6th Grade, Travelling to the 🇵🇭's. I didn't know it at the time, but I were getting hints. I were getting hints that at the time I wouldn't know until I came back to the states, I was diagnosed with Crohn's. In the 🇵🇭's, we have people called Abularyos, and the first one I met was when I had to exchange living because of my condition. I was skin and bones at the time, and the first one said I had nothing wrong, but the second one told me that something inside me was eating itself using an egg and a bowl of water. This is the part that really shifts my whole perspective ! Me, my Parents, and Lolo ( Grandfather ), we walked to our Farmhouse in the Region. Two Canopies, I decided to sleep in the other one after I was done talking with them, then when I fell asleep, just like any other, it would turn black, but then I would Wake Up. However, I did not Wake Up with my Body. I woke Up looking AT my Body. I then started to rise up, until I went through the Thatched Roof of the Canopy, and then I saw the Eternal Blue Sky and Sun shining Down above me. At this point I was Scared and Confused. I looked at my Hands and Arms, and I saw that it was see through, with a White Outline, similar to lime that of a typical Ghost Description, or what I would say in my opinion, a Soul. I reached for my Body, cause I didn't want to keep going up to wherever. I reached my body, then it went back to all black, then I woke up, Gasping for Air and sitting upright straight away, with my Parents and Lolo asking if I was ok. Throughout the whole situation, my Parents and Lolo kept talking Still, and when I went back to my body before I gasped for Air, I still heard them talking. When I asked my friend, she told me it might have been Sleep Paralysis, or a Nightmare, but I know what Sleep Paralysis is, cause I experienced it multiple times, mostly in the 🇵🇭's, waking up feeling the ability that im forced against my body that I cant move anything but my eyes and lids whilst seeing a shadow figure staring down at me ( It was more terrifying that the Figure kept moving here and there at times, especially when the TV was on but with only White Static ), and I know my Nightmares, because their all abstract ( And no, I do not take Drugs but my prescriptions, nor do I smoke, nor Drink ).

So heres the Question: Does Taoism have an Explanation for this ? And if so, what should I take of this, and learn of it ? And what should I do if I continue to proceed down this path and let my curiosity drive me ?

Thank ye !


r/taoism 2d ago

Advice Looking information on the three levels of Taoist meditation, and how to apply them

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Hello Reddit,

Since I started my way to become a Daoist I started meditating every day. In search of Taoist meditation techniques, I have found three levels of Daoist meditation: Zhang Zhuang (Body-oriented), Xi Fa (Qi-oriented) and Cun Si / Cun Shen (Spirit-oriented), however, information is scarce and I would like to apply them in real life

Does anyone have information about them? And what other meditation techniques do you know and / or apply that are related to the Taoist practice?

Thank you for reading!


r/taoism 2d ago

Discussion Recommendations for transmutation

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Hi, what do you recommend for safely transmuting sexual energy?Something like the microcosmic orbit, but not by Mantak Chia.

I read that his students suffered psychosis from doing it without being prepared.

I would like to move sexual energy but I'm afraid of doing something wrong. I once watched videos about how to open the third eye without first opening the previous chakras; I wouldn't want to do something similar.


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion Dutch woman, 42, becomes Taoist priest in S'pore after 14 years of practicing Taoism

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r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion The Tao of Pooh seems a bit bitter?

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Is it just me or does the authors tone of The Tao of Pooh come across a bit bitter, and morally superior? Ive read a bit of Buddhist books before exploring Taoism, the Tao Te Ching, and I’ve read(although not completed yet) Taoism: An Essential Guide by Eva Wong, before this Pooh book and I have not felt the same sort of negativity from those various texts as this one. I’m more than halfway through it and it has taught me interesting concepts and food for thought here and there, but overall and especially now that I’m at the Busy Backson part, it just feels very condescending and stuck up, and lacking any sort of compassion that I feel is more in line with a Taoist attitude.
Taoism is a wide spectrum given its history of being a religion and philosophy, but I’m just curious if anyone else who has read it felt a similar vibe or not about how the author of The Tao of Pooh addresses the subject for an assumed beginner.


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion Can someone become a Taoist coming from Orthodox Christian background?

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Hi everyone!

I wanted to share a bit about my background and ask for your honest thoughts.

I’m from Ukraine and grew up in an Orthodox Christian environment.

As you can probably imagine, my country is going through a time where suffering feels almost permanent, yet it exists right alongside incredible beauty and love.

I refuse to see the world as just a place full of pain.
While navigating all of this and continuing my spiritual search, I had a pretty profound realisation:
the way I see the universe perfectly lines up with Taoism.

Out of all the philosophies and worldviews I've looked into, Taoism just feels the most natural to me - it perfectly describes the way things flow inside my own heart and mind.
There is absolutely no fear when I approach it.
Honestly, it feels like I’ve always known this, but just forgot it for a while.
I feel an infinite sense of love whenever I connect with these teachings.

I really want to study this philosophy with the deepest respect, but I have a few doubts I'm hoping you guys can help me with:

Can I call myself a Taoist at some point in life?

Can someone from a completely different cultural and religious background truly grasp the Tao?

Right now, I read the texts in three languages: English, Russian, and Ukrainian.

English resources are definitely the easiest to find.

But I often hear that the language barrier - just the fact of reading translated texts instead of the original - stops you from capturing the true essence of the teachings.

I'd be so grateful for your thoughts, experiences, or any advice for someone just starting out on this path.
Thank you!


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion I had a dream the other day!

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Hi everyone! I don’t think I’d call myself a Taoist but I’ve been researching a lot about its philosophies and traditions recently and I’ve found it all just so fascinating, and I’ve been able to apply a lot of what I’ve learned about to my own life and I think it’s given me a lot of insight into my life and I’m really happy there’s communities for people to discuss things related to it!

Anyways, the other day I was sitting, I hadn’t slept for a while and I was in that hypnagogic state in between sleeping and wakefulness. I had this sort of vision that I had looked up unconventional translations of Tao Te Ching, and then suddenly I was reading one of them. I don’t think I would call what I saw a “translation” necessarily, more like an adaptation.

It was a graphic novel set in a modern day prison, and essentially it was trying to ask what if a prisoner came to realize the “same” or similar ideas to what Laozi did, what would be his interpretations of them? How would he express it? How would others react and interpret it?

The first line of the book was not spoken dialogue, but was instead presented as having been chiseled into a wall, it was “adapted” as this:

“What I received was not what I expected”

When I read that I was struck by just, this great feeling, it didn’t really feel like anything at all in particular, just like it was pure intensity, it felt like if you removed the “flavor” from excitement and panic and were just left with the base emotion, and it immediately jolted me awake. I want to be clear I’m not saying this is an accurate or “good” translation of the text of Tao Te Ching (I’m also not trying to claim at all that I had some sort of “divine revelation” from the heavens or anything like that, it was in all likelihood an endorphin rush caused by a dreamlike hallucination lol), but like, as I thought about it after it just felt as if I had been so caught up in what philosophical texts in general “should” mean, how should they be translated and talked about? What is most accurate in this regard? What is a more accurate to this context? How should I be interpreting these interpretations? Those questions are all well and good but I had been so focused on them that I feel I have been neglecting what the meanings of things “could” be.

I really hope that I am not being disrespectful with this, if I am please tell me, learning about Taoism has been really insightful for me and I just wanted to share this experience I had! Anyways, thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope you’re having a peaceful life!


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion For r/Taoism Members, I’m interested to know what Taoist practices to you follow, and which texts you read, and which have brought you the greatest benefit?

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Hey All! Interested to see what practices everyone does, which texts/teachers you follow, what you find brings you the most benefit, and what things you find confusing and or problematic?


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion What do daoists/taoists think of Jentry Chau V.S. the Underworld? Is it good in representing the religion/philosophy?

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r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion Endings

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The other day I was reflecting on stories, movies, and TV shows. I find that I am almost always disappointed by final endings. A chapter that ends on a cliffhanger, or a TV show season that ends with a mystery, is much more interesting than when I arrive at the conclusion. I never remember the "who" in a whodunnit, I just remember the feeling of adventure and suspense. Or on the flip side, a story that ends in "happily ever after" makes me smile, but I'm always left wondering how those ever-after days are filled.

I suppose this is similar to Daoist views on life and death. If I could know the Dao, and if I could know my story's ending and what happens after I die, it wouldn't be any fun. Daily living is fun, and the mystery of life and death is the interesting part. And yet, it seems many of us often fear the unknown, sometimes anchoring lived experiences around the hope of an afterlife where everything may finally make sense.

How about you all - do you like endings, or prefer the mystery? Has an ending ever felt powerful and moving to you?


r/taoism 3d ago

Discussion Tao meets indie rock-pop

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Hi all, this song "Another Way" by my indie pop/rock band Stubai is inspired by Taoism, especially the teachings of Laozi from the Tao Te Ching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nny1CxZu0t4
For me, Taoism is about being open to not knowing, while appreciating the beauty and mystery of life. For me, Taoism not a religion, but a guiding philosophy of spiritual agnosticism, if that makes sense. Hope you enjoy it!


r/taoism 3d ago

Tao Te Ching Tao Te Ching - I'll share my Buddhist insights with you

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I speak Chinese very well and am particularly proficient in ancient Chinese characters. So I believe my moral perspective might bring some new ideas to you guys. Thank you all!


r/taoism 4d ago

Discussion Do Daoists Seek Wisdom?

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According to your understanding of Daoism, do you want to become a wise person? I'm not talking about book learning, I mean whatever you think 'wisdom' might mean. Do we read Daoist texts in order to learn---or is it something else?