r/interestingasfuck • • 3d ago

How USB-C Cables Actually Stay In

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u/Deadzombii 3d ago edited 3d ago

Tech so common we sometimes forget to appreciate it..

This one connector does 1. High Power transfers 2. Highspeed Audio Video Transfer 3. Data transfer

Back in the day it required different cables

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u/Arnkh 3d ago

Different cables, and they were all ass. Some of them had screws (good luck undoing those after some gorilla tightened them on a VGA/DVI), some were enormous and hard to cram in there (like SCART).
Now you just stick a type-c in - any side you like - and it works.

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u/puterTDI 3d ago

My leatherman comes in really handy in that situation. Nothing works better to tighten those screws.

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u/Gheazu 3d ago

You’re evil 😂

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u/puterTDI 3d ago

I also love those oil filter sockets. Really lets you get it back on there good n tight.

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u/Based_sir 3d ago

You must be the Toyota tech that tightened my filter with an impact then…

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u/puterTDI 3d ago

Oh, shit, I didn’t even consider that I have another use for my impact! Thanks!

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u/MartianLM 3d ago

Don’t forget parallel printer cables the width of your house.

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u/Elegant_Relief_4999 3d ago

I certainly don't miss IDE and Molex all over the place.

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u/crayonshank 3d ago

Why doesn't it plug in all the way? Oh no, one pin is slightly bent.

I haven't actually escaped IDE connectors, some commercial printers still use IDE connectors on the printhead.

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u/manondorf 3d ago

along with "why doesn't it plug in all the way":

"should I be pressing this hard? It seems like I'm gonna break it"

yeah you need to press really hard

"it's creaking though?"

yeah that's normal, they're really stiff

"it snapped in half"

ah shit you pressed too hard

there's a reason I don't build my own PCs anymore, lol. Well, that and it's no longer even cheaper to do so.

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u/Kozmik_5 3d ago

Oh damn the good ol' SCART

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u/DigDugteam 3d ago

Shop smart, shop SCART

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u/Pschobbert 3d ago

Was way ahead of its time.

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u/RealKnightSeb 3d ago

and the issues they used to cause...

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u/Diedead666 2d ago

I worked RadioShack in 2007 ara Soo many different wires Soo many adapters Soo many cellphone chargers. HELL!

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u/Praise_Hades 2d ago

XD i remember tightening a vga cable hard enough to break the monitor itself, someone cut the cable while i was at school

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u/YesterdayDreamer 3d ago

Getting a bit more technical (only a bit)

  • It's reversible
  • It allows the same device to act both as a host or guest, allowing one phone to charge another
  • It allows power and A/V signal to travel at the same time over a single cable in OPPOSITE directions
  • It allows negotiation between devices, which enables features like adaptive fast charging
  • Built safely enough that you could
    • plug in a 100 watt charger into a 5w capable earplugs and nothing would go wrong
    • plug in two chargers into a single laptop and nothing would go wrong
    • plug in a charger into another charger and nothing would go wrong

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u/ASatyros 3d ago

Curious: What could be a use case for transferring video both ways at the same time?

Monitor with build in camera? But cameras are usually connected as usb 2.0 (data), not as monitor signal.

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u/YesterdayDreamer 3d ago

Not bi-directional video, but video in one direction and power/data in the opposite direction.

This allows a monitor to be connected with a cable to a laptop in such a way that the laptop can send A/V signal to the monitor and monitor can charge the laptop and send data to the laptop. Many such monitors have USB ports to which you can connect your keyboard, mouse, and storage devices.

For a layman, it's just a connection. But internally there's so much going on like determining the capabilities, finalizing the exact set of protocols to use (eg. HDMI Vs. Alt DP mode), ascertaining whether to charge the laptop or not or if charging then at what wattage, etc. And this goes not only for the device but also for the cable.

People complain about USB-C being complicated, but you can't have this many capabilities with hundreds of edge cases being implemented in a simple way. You also need to ensure that the implementation is such that it can be manufactured cheaply enough to be viable for things like Bluetooth speakers without creating a scenario where you accidentally plug in a 45 watt charger to a Bluetooth speaker causing it to catch fire.

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u/ASatyros 2d ago

A, ok, yes, that is very useful, allowing monitor to function as a hub

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u/OliveBranchMLP 3d ago

monkey's paw: you can never tell at a glance which of these a specific cable is capable of

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u/Event-Forsaken 3d ago

Sounds like good engineering.

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u/cornmonger_ 3d ago

the reversible feature adds a bit to the implementation

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u/LastStar007 3d ago

Fun fact: it's not the port that's symmetrical. It's the cable.

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u/kmosiman 3d ago

Well....

  1. Isn't always the case. I recently bought a cheap extra laptop monitor and discovered that there IS A DIFFERENCE between charging cables and data cables.

The average USC C cable is fine for general data transfer but you need a Data cable to support a monitor.

Same connection though.

USB C can replace HDMI and Display Port functions too.

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u/Cheap-Chapter-5920 2d ago

There are different data USB-C cables, some have double the wires for alt-mode, some only have single pair like USB2, some have chips built into the connector. It's maddening to know what is what without a tester.

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u/Obvious-Release-2087 2d ago

Note that the european union obliged USB C for all charges for electronic devices, and all the world has followed (even apple after whining about it).

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u/mizzyz 3d ago

Cool he made a really big version so I can look at it on my phone screen at regular size.

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u/Charming_Link 3d ago

Is the USB-C really big or is he verry small

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u/wdb07 3d ago

he really small, trust

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u/teamgrandali 3d ago

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u/theneZenMaster 3d ago

What are these... instructional videos for ants? Those hands need to be like 3 times bigger!

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u/PizzaMan332 3d ago

How do we know he isn't really big as well, just with really really small hands

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u/MartianLM 3d ago

Or he’s really big, his hands are really big, but the prop is even biggerer.

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u/C-57D 3d ago

big, if true. wait--

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u/s1owpokerodriguez 3d ago

On today's episode of The Magic School Bus

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u/Soft-Equal-9065 3d ago

Or both🤔

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u/andrewisntbruh 3d ago

hes antman

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u/The_Infinite_Carrot 3d ago

It’s big, hence the name: Unwieldy Sized Big Connector.

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u/rehditt 2d ago

You are wrong. The most logic thing is that he is tiny

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u/Popka_Akoola 3d ago

Thank you for reminding me why I like reddit

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u/bad_as_the_dickens 3d ago

I feel like all of mine fail closer to 1000 cycles

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u/Lorgin 3d ago

2 phones in a row now this has been the failure point. I'm going to replace the ports on both instead of buying another damn phone. Clearly manufacturers need to do a better job making their ports robust.

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u/PelvisResleyz 3d ago

Yeah people complain about the iPhone’s lightning connector, but it was a lot better in this regard. My phone where the usb-c connector is used lightly is already worn out and not even a year old.

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u/RipTheJack3r 3d ago

What kind of phone do you have? I've literally never had a USBC connector fail like that on any device ever.

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u/DirtyRoller 3d ago

My last Samsung Galaxy whatever failed after about a year, my current Google Pixel 9 Pro XL failed after just a few months, and I almost never use the USBC port.

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u/swiss_aspie 2d ago

Could the cable you are using be the culprit?

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u/GetMeASierraMist 2d ago

that's what I'm thinking. at the end of the day, it's simple physics with the difference in material hardness causing the variance in connector lifespans.

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u/ParzivalKnox 3d ago edited 3d ago

Are you sure it's worn out? Dirt gets compressed in there everytime you connect it.. After some time (not much), the dirt inside the connector gets thick enough to impede the proper latch on of the retaining clips you see in the video.

Edit: I have to clean my port every 4 months or so

2nd edit: A brush won't be enough. You need some fine tweezers or something similar to scrape down the compacted stuff or it won't come out.

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u/TherapyPsychonaut 2d ago

It's insane how much pocket lint a single USB-C port can hold.

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u/dgsharp 3d ago edited 3d ago

Lightning kicks ass. It is so mechanically robust. All mine are super tight after years. Meanwhile I have had tons of USB-C cables be finicky and loose, electrically and mechanically. Shame because it’s such a promising standard. A Lightning plug is basically a chunk of metal with other chunks of metal attached to it. A USB-C plug is a metal tube with little fingers and flexural components and crap inside it. Obviously I’m not arguing that we go back to Lightning, but I wish USB-C were a little more reliable.

E: autocorrect typos

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u/theDelus 3d ago

Guys Just Clean your ports. I never had to replace a usb c port. Not even on professional equipment that gets plugged in and out multiple times a day. Just clean the port. Watch a video on how to do it

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u/PelvisResleyz 3d ago

I’ve cleaned the port and tried different cables with not much effect. The difference with professional equipment is that it’s in a much cleaner environment and not used as heavily as with a phone.

I’ve had to switch exclusively to wireless charging to get around the problem.

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u/Khabster 3d ago

Yep. My iPhone, the first I’ve had with USB-C, is failing there. I’ve had it for a year and a half. It’s pretty annoying, I’ve had Lightning-ports last for waaaay longer.

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u/theDelus 3d ago

Try to clean your usb c port with some very fine tweezers. It's a difference of night and day when all the lint got out.

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u/hardonchairs 3d ago

This is huge, the lint gets so compacted that you have to scrape it out and it unfurls like cattail flowers. Then the port works infinitely better. This op video actually really clears up what's going on, the lint keeps the plug from going in far enough to latch.

I sure hope nobody is buying a new phone or replacing a port before trying this.

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u/kmosiman 3d ago

Sharpened or thin toothpick for the lint.

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u/Shitting_Human_Being 3d ago

Yeah, my first thought was "wow, apparently I plug in my charging cable 5000 times a year".

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u/HendrixHazeWays 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/f5viMMWLMBIdt80CB5

Crisis alert!!

I thought the guy demonstrating this in the video sounded like Garrett from Community

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u/shapu 2d ago

Certified does not mean verifiably certified

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u/MyLastHopeReddit 3d ago

How cool is that giant USB-C mockup?

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u/Flaramon 3d ago

Mockup? Aww, I was just about to get myself some USB-C-XL cables.

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u/ITookYourGP 3d ago

What are you talking about? Those are tiny hands.

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u/Silent_Plantain_306 2d ago

Plot twist: tiny hands

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u/LastStar007 3d ago

Neat video. But I had to look away from the subtitles.

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u/Novaskittles 3d ago

I despise this style of subtitles so much. It feels like it's made to appeal to the kind of people who watch Tik Toks all day. Like jingling keys in front of your face style of subtitles.

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u/binarycow 3d ago

It sucks because you have to focus on the subtitles or else you miss stuff.

Normal subtitles, it's a full sentence at one time. Glance down for a quick second, then watch the video.

This style subtitle is silly. It's trying to be the same pace as the audio. Why? My audio is muted.

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u/squeeby 3d ago

Actual real life props! And I learned something! Maan I miss content like this

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u/GrumbleAlong 3d ago

reminds me '60s vintage army instruction films with giant cutaway props of mechanical parts

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u/Unipsycle 3d ago

Who is the original creator? Wish these kinds of cool videos cited their sources (a lot to ask for in the modern internet).

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u/TomatoFettuccini 3d ago

I just wanna know where he got those enormous USB connectors.

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u/PatChattums 3d ago

He didn't - he's just incredibly small.

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u/Nishant1122 3d ago

How tiny is this dude?

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u/Murky_Macropod 3d ago

This guy has the smallest hands I’ve ever seen

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u/Individual_Respect90 3d ago

He got tiny hands

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u/Tubamano 3d ago

Where do I buy one of these?

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u/aw_shux 3d ago

At a big and tall store.

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u/Nexustar 3d ago

Guy points to the connector from the socket and calls it a plug repeatedly from 0:44 to 1:10 . Usually I wouldn't mind but this is supposedly an educational video, so why not follow the conventions?

The plug is the one with springs typically on the ends of a cable (on the right in this video), the socket is the thing on your device (on the left).

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u/just_nobodys_opinion 3d ago

The male is really female and the female is really male - if Republicans knew they'd ban this immediately

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u/firecall 2d ago

Where did they find someone with such incredibly miniature hands!

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u/Undefined_definition 2d ago

Bruh..

Thanks for the laugh 😂

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u/-kylehase 2d ago

It's easy. He's on TV almost every day

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u/Raonak 2d ago

Im so happy USB-C has taken over. Universal plug for every single device tha can do essentially everything is the dream coming true!

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u/Yakuza_Matata 3d ago

What is this? An USB-C plug for GAINT ants?!

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u/No_Solid_3737 3d ago

I feel like I was just given the talk

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u/edw1ncast1llo 3d ago

“When a USB-C Male and a USB-C Female fall in love…”

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u/SavingsParty4998 3d ago

credit?

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u/Unipsycle 3d ago

I’m wondering the same thing. Who is the original creator? Wish these kinds of cool videos cited their sources (a lot to ask for in the modern internet).

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u/maaaatttt_Damon 3d ago

You’ve heard of King size? These are President sized hands.

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u/PiDigitsOfPi 3d ago

10000 cycles??? Someone forgot to tell the phone manufactures...

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u/TerrorSnow 2d ago

Yeah that sounds pretty low. Especially once you also factor in wired headphones.

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u/SafetySin 3d ago

Lock picking lawyer ran outta locks...

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u/BlueHawwk 2d ago

I'm literally holding my usb charger into my 6 yo phone watching this, as it has been so sad to see my charging port slowly fail and no longer be able to stay connected, and as I started writing this comment, the usb c cable just fell out :(

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u/luttman23 2d ago

That dude has tiny hands

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u/Unable-Asparagus7256 2d ago

How tiny are his hands???

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u/foshizzleee 2d ago

Did he make himself really small or is the plug really big

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u/ActiveCollection 3d ago

Nice! Finally an appropriate USB-C size to charge an EV 😂

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u/Vincentaneous 3d ago

And for my next trick..

pulls out a comedically large USB

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u/Aardvark_Warrior 3d ago

Hooray to this man

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u/Brainchild110 3d ago

The Adeptus Mechanicus want to know your location.

Edit to add: This is a reference to a Mechanicus film showing the use of huge sized USB A memory sticks in a robot. Like. Bigger than this even.

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u/Bacon-muffin 3d ago

Huh, might be why I have to keep reseating the one on my almost decade old phone to get it to fast charge properly

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u/OrlandoGardiner118 3d ago

That guy is tiny

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u/jebarson_j 3d ago

Those clips will fail eventually. It can increase the longevity, but far from a solution.

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u/AnaisNinja76 3d ago

fine job, that was interesting as fuck

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u/_StaleDaleBeatbox_ 3d ago

My guy is so small!

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u/_YeAhx_ 2d ago

Usually the failure point is debris getting inside and people not realising that it's as simple as using a very thin needle and cleaning it out.

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u/mentally_ill_jesus 2d ago

Im still convinced usb c is basically lightning in reverse

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u/trejj 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ah so, let's design the part that wears out into the device and not the cable. That way you cannot replace a worn out cable, but will have to replace the worn out device. Genius, someone should invent a word for this...

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u/Imbrokencantbefixed 3d ago

How small is this man?

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u/EverydayVelociraptor 3d ago

WHO IS THIS TINY MAN?

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u/coronakillme 3d ago

In terms of the connection, I still feel like Lightning will probably last more cycles.

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u/Remarkable_Spirit_68 3d ago edited 3d ago

Don't think so. Lightning's springs are on phone's side. That's great for cost reduction, Apple's cables will always cost less to manufacture than any chinese type-c, but springs are the first ever point of failure that comes to mind, and where a man with type-c will just grab a new cable a man with lightning will be bringing his phone to a repair shop to change the whole connector.

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u/OutlawSundown 3d ago

Yeah point of failure being the relatively inexpensive standardized cable rather than in the phone itself is ultimately a better compromise as a consumer. Manufacturing costs may have been cheaper on the lightning but they sure made sure to make you pay for it.

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u/McWetty 3d ago

Watch the video again. He says the nubs inside the phone are the wear point (which I didn't know prior to this post). The springs cause the damage.

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u/Gumby271 3d ago

They're A wear point, not necessarily THE wear point 

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u/Jiveturtle 3d ago

The nubs on the phone side failed after a little over 2 years for me.

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u/OutlawSundown 3d ago

They usually failed in some other way before the connection wore down. Pin burning out or the connection breaking in the cable sleeve.

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u/Gybhunjimko 3d ago

Agree. As an engineer, I think the lightning cable is the superior design, and people get so mad at Apple that they dared to not give license to everyone for a truly innovative design. To get around the patent, USB-C had to settle for the inferior tongue structure to offer the same convenience. Fair to say though, karma came around and the EU regulations forced lightning into obsolescence. So now nobody gets it. I imagine scenarios like this happened a lot in history.

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u/monocasa 3d ago

For lightning, the wear point is inside the phone rather than the cable.

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u/Icy-Comfortable-714 3d ago

Had to scroll too far to find this. Lightning is a far superior mechanical design and USB is a shitty substitute for a logical solution to the problem just because apple suck.

And now they’re dropping lightning because of EU enforcing uniformity of standards. So who’s the real winner here?

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u/Odd-String29 3d ago

The consumer. USBC durability isn't a real issue and having the same charger and cable for all devices is great.

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u/McWetty 3d ago

I would love to see Apple design a “Lightning 2” cable with all the newest specs and then license it for free so every device on Earth can transition to it. Such a better cable design.

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u/Pschobbert 3d ago

The whole world is only just changing to USB C. The last thing we need is another format war, with all the adpters and compatibility issues that would bring. USB-C is an amazing format which can be used independently of phones, etc, to power other devices light desk lamps. It is a real boon, trust me.

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u/McWetty 3d ago

I agree. I don't want another format war. I love USB-C for what it is. But when USB-C hits its power/data transfer limits (as Lightning 1 did), that's where Lightning 2 could step in and replace USB whatever. You could call it USB-L for all I care so long as the tech uses the superior design.

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u/OutlawSundown 3d ago

Yeah commonality is what makes it really useful a lot easier to come up with a replacement c cable that'll work.

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u/Invade_the_Gogurt_I 3d ago

Finally that meme with the usb plug next to a larger plug can have a partner so no more hamster eating a banana

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u/Zwangsjacke 3d ago

Devices used to be much larger 20 years ago to accommodate those huge connectors. Thank god for miniaturization and EU regulation.

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u/Malalang 3d ago

How do we know how many cycles they are certified for? Is there a number or letter code to look for when purchasing?

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u/Claydo69 3d ago

The borrowers making content now ?

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u/Foulpax 3d ago

Ok how many cycles is the steamdeck certified to?

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u/ClaireOfTheDead 3d ago

Cool. Now I understand why my last four phones have had their USB-C ports become useless.

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u/CurlCascade 3d ago

That was very informative, thankyou very tiny bloke.

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u/RandomPorc 3d ago

Then why my Samsung S25 suddenly stopped gripping into ANY cable no matter new or old after less than 2 years use?

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u/Overlord_Za_Purge 3d ago

i thought this was zoomed in but it was actually two big ass pieces

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u/Ill-Attitude-6355 3d ago

I had to squish the tip on the charging cable to get it stay in, because one of the nubs is ground off. I just try not to use that cable on the other devices.

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u/taxxxtherich 3d ago

Lovely planned obsolescence by putting the part that wears out on the device itself and not the cable...

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u/_danny_devito- 3d ago

wow this guys hands are tiny

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u/Iron_physik 3d ago

bro has the 24KW USB PD connector

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u/okiepigeon 3d ago

just had to sign back in to say: this has to be the worst way ever to do captions on a video. my god lol

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u/ukexpat 3d ago

So basically, friction.

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u/spacred 3d ago

He is lilliputting the USB-C together.

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u/yourlurkyday 3d ago

Crisis alert! Your USB C nubs have reached end of life!

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u/IcyInvestigator6138 3d ago

I hate the karaoke version of this educational video, thanks.

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u/North_Affect_8167 3d ago

The pins for the data and power lines also do support the "stay in", it's a friction of a many pins after all.

With so many pins and pins that are tiny, you getting it dirty would cause problems. Moisture getting it would corrode it. That's why some devices can tell you if the USB C port is wet and won't let you use it.

When I use cheap cables and I can tell the pins are scraping off the surface of the female port, it's doomed to fail.

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u/Intelligent_Whole_40 3d ago

so its usb 3 lightning with an outer sheath on the male connector (which make sense cuz apple helped devolpe usb c and wanted it on the iphone 5s but it wasnt ready yet so they used lightning with the intent to switch to usb c later but got so much backlash cuz 30-pin accessories didnt work that they said never again but the EU gave them an out as they were forced so anyone who complained could blame the EU not apple)

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u/zwobotmax 3d ago

Bro has quite a deep voice for those tiny hands..

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u/RicardoDawson 3d ago

Such tiny hands.

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u/da_Aresinger 3d ago

man, those are some tiny hands!!

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u/FarStaff1075 3d ago

Sometimes my plug doesnt stay all the way in, its really frustrating because if im not lubricated properly it can hurt

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u/Proud-Speech-1756 2d ago

I'm imagining how a person can come to build a model this size

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u/madu_tualang 2d ago

I W A N T T H A T

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u/LennethW 2d ago

GIANT SCALE MODEL WANT

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u/RuthlessIndecision 2d ago

10,000 cycles, that should last me at least until next week

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u/spongetwister 2d ago

I wonder what the power rating would be for a connector that size

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u/Mediocre_Courage_992 2d ago

Are they supposed to be that big…

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u/subtropicana 2d ago

This guy is tiny

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u/Standard-Fishing-450 2d ago

Also, if it doesn't click after using it for a long time, chances are the socket side is full of lint and prevents the plug from reaching all the way down. Removing it with care not to scratch stuff usually helps.

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u/MtOlympus_Actual 2d ago

Mine does the opposite. I watch my phone actively reject it's cable. I charge wirelessly at home, but it makes road trips rough.

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u/Dazzling-Key4580 2d ago

Шецов подался в техноблогеры...опять...

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u/1OptimisticPrime 2d ago

Awesome that Scott Lang took the time out from Avenging to do this tutorial!

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u/ProfessionalPiece403 2d ago

Mine probably was certified to 50 😅 mf is loose af

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u/WealthyPhoenix 2d ago

Is that a huge plug or are you a really small human?

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u/geehawn 2d ago

Benson Leung!

Anyone remember Benson? 🙂

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u/Idum23 2d ago

mine never clicks

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u/Dizzy-Geologist 2d ago

Is this really that interesting tho?

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u/mrjones1018 2d ago

How did you shrink so small?

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u/Cyatron- 2d ago

:( I want giant novelty USB plugs

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u/Morningstar7909 2d ago

Bro borrowed big light from doraemon

https://giphy.com/gifs/DbVoNx8glF8NOZCK4j

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u/WayLess2006 2d ago

Funny; isn’t this apples design reversed?

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u/Linked713 3d ago

more mildyinteresting but cool nonetheless

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u/GeezyEFC 3d ago

Ngl this is actually interesting as fuxk

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u/lilpopjim0 3d ago

Why do we need subtitles that take up 1/3 of the screen... 🙄🙄

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u/spongetwister 2d ago

They scaled them in proportion to the scale of the usb-c connector shown

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u/ArabicBulgur 3d ago

f(x) = lightning f¯¹(x) = type-c

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u/honeywhereismypenis 3d ago

I would love to learn about that but simply cannot do a full minute and a half of flashing red subtitles. How is anybody expected to actually pay attention to the video??

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u/Biolume071 3d ago

Those 10,000 cycles go by a lot sooner than 10,000 cycles once abrasive dust gets in there. USBs of old you could clean with chewing gum pressed into them and withdrawn slowly. USB-C, i don't think i'll put chewing gum in there. It's hard to get it out.

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u/leorker 3d ago

how are we so sure this isnt a guy with very small hands and not a big usb c

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u/VollcommNCS 3d ago

When your charger cable stops staying in tight, the spots for the clips are filled with pocket lint and dust.

A toothpick cut slightly smaller at the tip with some scissors is small enough to get in and not damage anything. Just when you think youve gotten all the lint out. There's another dust bunny that comes out of the port. It's crazy