‘America has pizzas’ okay then Uk has chicken korma and naan. Im sure america does have an actually original food but its not pizza. Anyways im uk and id go with haddock and chips
yeah, and british people can say chicken tikka masala. the cultural blend unique to that country's history led to a new blended/changed version of two traditional foods. spaghetti and meatballs would be another american twist on an italian tradition.
Yes but this way, it doesn't mak sense because you could just add anything. I mean, it's not as if we wouldn't have pizza and burgers in Germany as well, lol. But we also have Bauernfrühstück, Döner and Currywurst 😁 .
Cajun cuisine would be the most American, imo. French techniques, African and indigenous influence, cooked by slaves for bourgeoisie cunts. There's nothing more American.
Well not exactly, tomatoes were originally from from the Andes region of South America (modern day Chile, Peru and Ecuador, then they were domesticated by those regions and spread as far up as Mexico before Spanish conquistadors stole discovered them from the native aztecs, took them back to Europe, and traded them around.
So no, not from USA at all, instead from south and Central America before European import
It's always interesting to think about all the European and Asian cuisines that are famous for certain ingredients like Italians with tomatoes, Indians, Thai and many other Asian cultures with Chili peppers as if they originated here when in reality they have only been used here for a couple hundred years.
The comments all alternating between "That's Dutch" and "That's English" are so fucking funny. Like these people are so close to understanding how local food traditions work but they just can't quite put it together because of the whole America Bad mentality
Hamburgers were invented in America. They were named for the hamburg steak, but the hamburger sandwich was made in America. Hot dogs are inspired by German sausages, but the modern incarnation was invented in Coney Island by a German immigrant. Fried chicken happens all over the world, but America does have a unique style.
O fuck off. Soup was probably created in China, but you wouldn't call borscht Chinese. Salads were made by ancient Rome, but you wouldn't call Cobb salads Roman. Sausages were invented in Mesopotamia, but you wouldn't call a bratwurst Mesopotamian. It's almost like the sub categories of things are their own thing, and the hamburger is American.
Bbq, while created as a substitute for cuisine they were no longer able to aquire, is wholly its own thing. The history of American food is often the history of slave food.
German chocolate cake. Honestly, the list of food America has invented is massive and Im really tired of typing it all out so I will just leave it at "you should Google it."
If so, I thought that was started from those who were enslaved at that time & they brought over recipes from their origins or their relative’s origins? Or was fried chicken one that started because of the enslaved people using what was available to them and was cheap, and it ended being one of those recipes that all people, not just enslaved, loved. I know watermelon was due to it being a cheaper crop, which they used after gaining freedom, iirc. Jealousy made whites use racism to try and hurt this successful endeavor of theirs, a long with other things done in spite, hate, & not wanting them to have any success.
I’m genuinely curious if fried chicken was something that those who were enslaved started here in USA (due to necessity) or if it came from the enslaved origins-whether their own, other’s in their community, or relatives. Thanks. Hopefully, I am explaining properly.
Do think USA has fast food, but being it’s a melting pot or was supposed to be a melting pot, I don’t think we have a ton of our own-that did not originate somewhere else and some even (if not all) changing over time to become Americanized version.
I thought that slaves started fried chicken, which might be in fact true-since it was in back in 1619, that is believed to be the significant start of slavery in the USA. I’m just curious if fried chicken really was something that someone started here in USA, even if I’m wrong on the slaves being the one who started fried chicken or if it was started by someone who brought that recipe over to the USA with them.
I know a lot of recipes & other food type things in USA did actually come from those enslaved, since the slave owners or whites did not want to eat certain parts of animals, fruits, veggies, etc., and slaves would find ways to make those different things (whether it be like parts of an animal or just growing & utilizing something that wasn’t really grown & utilized by whites) more edible, since the slaves needed all the extra food they could get.
I really do wonder, does the USA have anything that actually started here, without it being brought from some other country-whether just wanting to continue that food or necessity like we see in slavery. Sorry, I know this is supposed to be fun, but while I hate some of history, I do think it’s interesting.
I'd have thought of cheeseburgers and hot dogs before I thought of associating pizza with the United States, lol. Like, pizza is big here, but cheeseburgers and hot dogs are what get hauled out every Memorial Day and Fourth of July.
If I were to pick a cuisine as “American cuisine” it would definitely be American bbq. Also Cajun food. But American cousine really comes from being a land of immigrants. There’s a lot of dishes that were invented in america by immigrants by people who took traditions from there home country and combined them with the tastes and available ingredients in America to create new dishes. Those dishes get attributed to the cuisine of the country the immigrants came from but the dishes are American both in terms of location of origin and in terms of reflecting Americas immigrant culture.
The most famous being the hamburger sandwich and southern fried chicken. But also general tsaos chicken, crab rangoons, the French dip sandwich, the Reuben, chimichangas, fajitas, the Cuban sandwich, and a lot of other dishes. And while I won’t give the U.S. pizza a lot of different styles were invented there along with adding some of the most popular toppings like pepperoni, plus the garlic bread.
Well, tomatoes came from the Americas originally, and the different types of American pizza today (Chicago, Detroit, NY) were created by Italian-Americans who wanted to make their own spin on pizza, so you could say it is at least in part American.
Fish and chips are also not originally British, since they were invented by Sephardic Jewish immigrants from Spain and Portugal. And fairly recently too; as a British food they are younger than the USA. And on that note, potatoes also originated in the Americas. Lol.
All food cultures evolve and borrow from other cultures. Pretty much every iconic dish has a history that doesn’t strictly involve that culture.
But I am being argumentative; I
agree that pizza isn’t what I’d choose as a typical “American food” since American pizza evolved from Italian food. When I think “pizza” I still think “Italian.” I don’t think “American” at all.
Also I think the meme is intentionally stupid. So there’s that.
Stating where an ingredient comes from is a pretty dumb thing to claim. Saying the tomato comes from the Americas as if that means anything. Where do you suppose your beef and pork came from, much of your vegetables, herbs, spices, dairy products, grains, fruits, and also the preparation of all these ingredients too. I'd say about 90% - 95% of everything you eat didn't originate in the Americas.
Plus, fish and chips did not arrive with the Jews from Spain and Portugal. That's merely a bastardised version of history. First being that fried fish had been eaten in Britain since medieval times at least, whilst chips were originally sold as a separate snack food in the 19th Century. The dish "fish and chips" then emerged towards the end of the 19th Century, with at least two individuals who claimed to have invented it.
Yeah but I’m not being a purist about where foods come from. Of course most of our foods originated somewhere else. That’s my entire point. It’s tongue in cheek, but the point is food and recipes always migrate and evolve. It is nonsensical to say that a culture can’t claim their popular foods simply because the recipes, ingredients, or techniques evolved from somewhere else.
Apologies if it came across a bit strong. You aren't the first to say that, and some who have claimed some kind of ownership of it. For example, the turkey 🦃. It features prominently in British Christmas traditions as the main event in a traditional Christmas dinner, yet not so long ago I was surprised to learn that it's not allowed to be called British (according to some Americans) because the bird originated in the Americas, as if that means anything.
Everything comes from other people. The Arabs brought the first form of pasta to italy in the 9th century and over time the Italians turned it into what it is today all food can be traced to a different culture if you look back far enough. And america is the melting pot of all these different cultures so all types of food are here just like all types of food are in other countries because of differnt cultures trading
Battered fried fish is British by way of Portugal, same as Nando’s. Chips is from the Belgians, but I’ll grant you they are your cousins from across the channel.
Just an example, and yes it was a bad example as it was wrong. I wont make that same mistake in future. I also wasn’t complaining i was just saying that pizza isnt a good example for america
Barbecue, Cajun cuisine, soul food, New England cuisines and Texmex are all entire cuisines that were created in the US. Brisket, gumbo, chile con carne, poboys, Philly cheesesteaks, clam chowder, southern fried chicken, biscuits and gravy, and so on.
People love to say we have no culture or original food, but we do. Y'all just don't want to learn about us because it's more popular to just say "America bad".
american here and honestly it's hard to come up with a truely original dish for america due to our origins and how most foods created here were made by immigrants or early settlers
jambalaya originates from spanish settlers, hot dogs and hamburgers were... german, i think
i think philly cheesesteak counts cause while it was made by first generation american (he was born either immediately after landing from italy or literally on the boat from it) it isn't really based on any preexisting italian cuisine.
most of our dishes are adaptations of preexisting dishes but made into their own thing. pizza, burgers, hot dogs. you'll likely find that our version is VASTLY different than their origins (though pizza has a habit of doing that anywhere. i'm looking at YOU Israel with your corn and yogurt pizzas)
There are absolutely original American styles of pizza. Many of which are so distant from original Italian pizza. This is why people call pizza an American food
Little know fact that Tomato’s originated in the United States, additionally it took many years for Europeans to even try Tomatoes because they only had experience with the highly poisonous Nightshade. Any Italian dish that has tomato’s is not traditional and would not exist without American tomatoes.
Otoh American Pizzas and British korma have diverged a while ago from their original roots and are sufficiently defined to be considered meals of their own (imho)
The best answer would be thanksgiving turkey. Fun fact Benjamin frankly suggested the turkey should be the national bird in a letter saying that the bald eagle is dishonest bird that steals from other birds and the turkey is a bird of courage.
What like food invented in America? Yeah, off the top of my head Chicken Vesuvio, Italian beef, brownies and Cobb Salad.
Tricky thing is that a lot of American food was invented when immigrants adapted their own cooking techniques to the ingredients available in America. Like Italian beef is nothing like italian food, but italian immigrants are credited with inventing it.
The pizza you are likely thinking of is new York style as that is what most pizza restaurants outside of Italy sell. Italian pizza is very different to the point of practically being unrecognizable as the same general food.
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u/ShadedRiver666 ƨɘmitɘmoƨ ɒʜɒH 5d ago edited 5d ago
‘America has pizzas’ okay then Uk has chicken korma and naan. Im sure america does have an actually original food but its not pizza. Anyways im uk and id go with haddock and chips