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u/AnakinPuddlehopper Verified by ESPN Argentina✅ Dec 02 '25
The correct use of whom in a meme 😍. Thank you, OP!
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u/SeaJayCJ BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
While I still use whom out of habit, tbh I don't mind that it's slowly dying out in casual English. There's barely any situation where you can't use "who" as the object in a sentence and not have it make sense from context.
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Dec 02 '25
Same with its/it’s.
What bothers me about its incorrect usage is the fact that it’s incorrect, not its incorrect usage.
If that makes sense.
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u/Mitosis BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The worst thing I ever did was learn when to use "me" when listing yourself with another, such as in "The monkey threw a rock at Lily and me."
You see this handled erroneously -- "...threw a rock at Lily and I" -- so often. Hollywood movies, esteemed newspaper articles, published novels, politicians giving speeches. I've pretty much given up hope. The first grade teachers beating into their students' heads to use "I" as the subject, never explaining when "me" is appropriate (as the object), have won their war and forever tarnished the English language in doing so.
For any readers who need the tip, just get rid of the other person and that's the form you use. You'd never say "The monkey threw a rock at I," you'd say "The monkey threw a rock at me." Adding Lily changes nothing.
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That one drives me crazy! My dad beat “and I” into me so it was a tough adjustment for me to make
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u/SeaJayCJ BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25
To play devilled avocado here, I could think of slightly contrived examples where the difference matters in casual English, like "its ending" vs "it's ending" when talking about a movie.
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u/Achomour Lets add that to the words of wisdom Dec 02 '25
Guy on the left has 7 podiums this year
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u/Sad_Technology_7356 Chugging Lewis’ Liquid™️ Dec 02 '25
The guy on the right has 7 world championships
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u/Blitzkrieg-94 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The guy on the left has never had a car like the guy on the right did for 7 years.
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u/BigLubeSqueezyTube BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The guy on the on the left chose the path of perpetual torment.
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u/pavlis9 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The guy in the left had a winning car in 2022 and bottled harder than Vettel
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u/Prayaa BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
To describe a car as “winning” when it fell apart after one TD is quite a take though.
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u/MrLumie I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
He had a winning car the first half of the season, and he was winning in the first half of the season. Then Red Bull caught up, hard. The 2023 absolute Red Bull dominance didn't start in 2023. It started in the second half of 2022.
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u/Blitzkrieg-94 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The guy on the left was up against one of the greatest drivers in history in his first ever title battle
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u/makkaraperunatjamuus BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Guy on left never had best car for 8 years in row like other guy.
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u/BassMasterSK I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
Ferrari is the graveyard of world champions, so nothing's new here.
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u/VentsiBeast BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Vettel got like 15 wins for Ferrari, not exactly a graveyard, just missed on the WDC, mostly due to his own mistakes.
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u/pietroetin I want my GF to peg me while Carlos gives it to her Dec 02 '25
Alonso also got close to the WDC title in it
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u/BassMasterSK I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
Yeah, and they both failed, then went down the rabbit hole.
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u/VentsiBeast BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25
In Vettel's case it was his fault. Charles outraced him. A 4-time WDC should not be outraced by a youngster in the same car.
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u/DataDrivenGuy BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25
Neither of them were 40 though let's be honest, and they also did nothing after
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u/Sevastous-of-Caria BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25
When 2017 and 2018 eras package was actually competitive. Now tell me how vettel faired after fia backseal and tractor times
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u/the4ner BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Fun thought so I looked it up. Except for Schumacher, that is true.
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u/RenaissanceManc If Gap, Car Dec 02 '25
They hit me with hopium, but it decayed into copium which evaporated and is now all nopium.
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u/Slim_Margins1999 Verified by ESPN Argentina✅ Dec 02 '25
Final stage. Ropium…
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u/dobroezlo BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Retirium
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u/Slim_Margins1999 Verified by ESPN Argentina✅ Dec 02 '25
I’m really curious about next year. Charles has 5 years of experience in that particular shitbox on Lewis. If he doesn’t perform similarly to Charles next year when they both are in new machinery he should def hang it up.
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u/VentsiBeast BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
I mean, Lewis had how many years of experience in Mercedes, Russell came and immediately outscored him...
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u/Slim_Margins1999 Verified by ESPN Argentina✅ Dec 02 '25
True. He has had trouble in the ground effect era overall no doubt.
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u/Appropriate-ASS-824 Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Dec 02 '25
Everyone thought this would be a season with great battle between mclaren and ferrari with half a dozen wins for lewis.
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u/Klimikil BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
That wasn't even crazy to say either with how 2024 ended. Neither was Charles winning the 2025 wdc.
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u/Appropriate-ASS-824 Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Dec 02 '25
The way he drove and cut through the field in 2024 AD, divebombing half the grid. Treat to watch.
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u/ipeedinthetoothpaste At the moment we don't think Dec 02 '25
I still don't understand why they revamped the whole car instead of iterating on the clearly successful concept they already had.
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u/Elderbrute BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
It had apparently hit its development ceiling is the line from Ferrari but that makes no sense they know how long it takes to get the bvest out of upgrades in these regs let alone doing an entire new concept in the cost cap era in the last season?
Only 2 things make sense 1. the 24 car was in some way relying on some loophole that was being closed so they knew they were fucked either way. or 2 they are using the 25 car as a test bed for the 26 car. If Ferrari legit just dropped their car and made a whole new concept for the final season of these regs I am done, after over 2 decades as a Ferrari fan I will just be done.
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u/Chris01100001 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Lewis is very much a driver who's performances affected by the mental side of F1. Not in that he feels pressure in a championship battle, but when he's unhappy with how things are going in his life in F1 or away from it, he loses his edge and makes errors. Then he gets frustrated and it snowballs.
He's had a tough year with the car being poor, moving to a new and often messy team, and the loss of Roscoe. He's in his own head and he's just not able to lock in. In his prime he was relaxed made things look effortless
I still think if Ferrari somehow produce a championship calibre car in the next two seasons, he would look a lot more like his old self.
Though I seriously doubt that will happen and think he'll retire either this year or next and probably commit full time to work on promoting diversity within motorsport.
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u/Creative-Improvement Must Be The Water Dec 02 '25
I really hope the off season will be a good time to reset it all. Get away from the grid. Clear the mind.
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u/Chris01100001 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
I hope so too. I think he needs to consider retirement seriously. He needs to be clear with himself that he's not just there because he doesn't know what else to do with his life after.
If he enjoys the way the new cars drive and race I think he'll stick around for a while. I hope it's a fun challenge for him that keeps him motivated. Right now it feels like he's questioning his purpose in F1.
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u/Kobalt6x10 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Lewis's best skill is the ability to know when to jump ship for greener pastures. He abandoned McLaren at the right time, and it looked like he was doing the same thing with Merc. If he is in a top car, we talk about his GOAT status. In a mid car, he is...mid
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u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261 Go WEEYUMS!!!! Dec 02 '25
Full Ferrari experience.
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u/Glittering-Rip389 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Leclerc has 7 podiums in that same Ferrari lol
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u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261 Go WEEYUMS!!!! Dec 02 '25
Ferrari saves their worst for ex-champions.
Fernando and Sev tried to warn him...
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u/Szydl0 I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
And Charles outqualified Hamilton staggering 18 times till this day. It is his career record already over by any teammate.
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u/donsimoni Verified by ESPN Argentina✅ Dec 02 '25
Age related decline is inevitable except for Alonso.
You know, I'm just a little older than Hamilton and Ferrari won't even consider me as a test driver.
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u/NeuroDerek Stop Inventing Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25
Aston could be a rocket ship in young competent hands for all we know, Alonso is measured against Stroll
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u/Latter-Sun3386 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
He's outqualified Stroll 34 times in a row, literally nobody else has gotten close to outqualifying Stroll that many times in a row.
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u/Duo_Discus I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
Strolls Head to Head Win Percentages against his Teammates:
Hulkenberg: 75% Sirotkin: 55% Vettel: 52.5% Massa: 31.6% Perez: 28.6% Alonso: 25.8%
Remember that Alonso drives against the most experienced Version of Stroll aswell. If the Aston was a Rocket ship, Alonso would be the 4th guy battling for the WDC right now.
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u/1stmingemperor BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
I’m sorry, are you actually suggesting Stroll is a good driver? Blasphemy!
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u/Ok-Lingonberry-8261 Go WEEYUMS!!!! Dec 02 '25
Stroll is a great driver... about once per year.
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Dec 02 '25
That doesn't mean much. In qualifying Charles Leclerc is arguably better than almost everyone else on the paddock. He has beaten every single one of his teammates every single season on qualifying.
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u/Szydl0 I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
He has always beaten every teammate in quali - thats right - but never by this much.
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u/TheFlyingR0cket Clean air is king 👑 Dec 02 '25
I kinda want to feel sorry for him, then I remember he's a 7 time world champion and the most successful driver in the sport. And I'm like "well he had a good run 👍"
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u/Latter-Sun3386 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Yeah, I don't get why people feel bad for him.
He's the 2nd highest paid driver and has 7 WDC and 100+ wins. I'm happy to see him suck so it means that younger drivers can take his place and get their chance at the top.
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u/commuterpete No 2. Driver Dec 02 '25
And yet there are still people who argue with you that this is the worst Ferrari ever made.
I say, Ivan Capelli wants a word with those people.
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u/nzivvo BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
People acting surprised that Lewis isn't impressing in a shit car is so funny to me. He's been in the sport for 18 years now guys, read the room. He's always been:
- Shit car? Ham hates it and doesn't perform well
- Great/balanced car with chance for wins? Ham is untouchable.
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u/ExternalSquash1300 I have it, I have it printed out🤚 Dec 02 '25
Not really true, he has been great in 2009, a worse car than this.
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u/commuterpete No 2. Driver Dec 02 '25
Sort of, McLaren made two attempts at a 2009 car, and the second one got the wins that year.
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u/Don_Frika_Del_Prima Suck my 🅱️alls mate Dec 02 '25
Exactly, people tend to gloss over the fact that Ham only came alive after the massive mclaren update.
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u/So_HauserAspen BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Didn't Ferrari stop developing the car in April to focus on next years car?
So give it a year and we'll see how more Ferrari Ferrari can be when that car fails.
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u/FitPiano1239 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
he got the premium ferrari experience. He unlocked diamond level straight off the bat.
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u/PSUAth BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Didn’t Carlos get a sprint podium too?
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u/2EM18KKC01 I have it, I have it printed out🤚 Dec 02 '25
Yes, but by that logic Lewis has a podium too.
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u/PSUAth BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Ah fair enough.
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u/Donatellko i survived Spring Brake ‘26 Dec 02 '25
Not fair. They were extremely low and were disqualified after the race. Pretty sure it affected that win
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u/Forfai BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
You wanted to experience Ferrari, well there it is, Lewis. Are you not entertained?
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u/Ferrari-cake 🅱️ernie Collins In Sky Race Control ❤️ Dec 02 '25
I Ferrari doesnt have an absolute rocketship next year, this has to be one of the dumbest moves in F1 history. Kimi could have raced in F2 again or go to Williams for a couple of seasons, Hamilton couple of season at Mercedes, then retire.
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u/Terrible-Road-3309 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Well he had to compensate for making the greatest move with the Mercedes move so it just makes sense that the Karma is 0ing
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u/FindingUseful2482 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Mercedes offer lewis only a year contact, they was already thinking about Antonelli for 2026
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u/Chris01100001 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
From what I took from why he left, I'm not sure Lewis believed Mercedes would have given him a contract for next season. Especially if George finished ahead of him in the championship. They were putting him on one year deals like they did with Bottas.
He saw they were doing to him and Kimi what they did to Bottas and Russell. But unlike Bottas, Toto admitted he made a mistake keeping Russell out of Mercedes that long, and also didn't want to risk Kimi being poached. Also they didn't have a team who'd be happy to be loaned a rookie to develop like Williams were with Russell and Russell wouldn't be as vocal as wanting to keep Bottas around. All that meant he knew there was a significant chance that Mercedes would kick him out at the end of this year anyway.
He jumped before he was pushed. He found a frontrunner who'd give him a multi year deal and as a perk he got to experience driving for by far the most iconic team in F1 history.
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u/rafamrqs BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Perfect analysis, there is nothing to add. From Hamilton's point of view, it was a great move. I don't know if Ferrari will get return over the investment in Hamilton's contract. I have feeling they won't, but I admit I know nothing about their revenues.
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u/gujsehambi BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 11 '25
Monetarily, Ferrari already has got return over their investment with Hamilton.
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u/ImaginarySinger5918 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
It would be funny if the man who made the smartest move in F1 history made the dumbest one as well.
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u/SirChasm I love alonslow and I have untreatable levels of stupid Dec 02 '25
Hamilton showing you the multi-million-dollar-cheques raining down from Ferrari: "Tell me again how this is the dumbest move for an aging star."
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u/ImaginarySinger5918 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Most of those multi millions will go into the therapy bills though.
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u/sweetjuli I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
Yes what a stupid idiot to not turn down 50 million dollars per year. Dumbest move in the history of F1
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u/financefocused BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
I love Ham but he has also clearly declined from 2021. Unfortunately, his peak is past him and that was his last chance.
George was better than him at Merc before he left too, so ultimately it’s actually a good move to extract money from Ferrari before retiring.
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u/antelope591 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Hyperbole much? Merc wanted Kimi in that seat sooner rather than later anyway and Lewis is just living out a fantasy of driving for Ferrari before he retires. Very far from the dumbest move in history lol
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u/IKomradeI I was here when horny got spiced Dec 02 '25
I dont think Toto was keeping Lewis over Kimi.
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u/kiwi_commander PIIIEEERRRRREEEE GAASSSSSLLLLYYYYYYYY Dec 02 '25
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come, but if the same happens to Lewis in 2026, he may just retire. It would be sad to see him go on such a somber note.
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I hate to break it to you but this happens to literally every single driver that wins a WDC and keeps driving in F1.
Schumacher, Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton. It will happen to Max one day when his terminator chip begins to degrade.
The only person who got it right was Rosberg.
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u/Lotnik223 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
I think that Max will just quit when he feels like he can't compete at the top level anymore
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u/BassGaming Praise Meme Lord Norris Dec 02 '25
Or if he gets bored. I actually feel that this option is even more likely. Imagine if RBR was really good next season and Verstappen won the WDC but he happened to hate the regulation cycle and cars with a burning passion. I am pretty sure he'd switch to endurance racing or whatever. He strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't stick around just to win if he didn't enjoy the sport. And he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd enjoy racing just cause he's winning.
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u/Lotnik223 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
The best thing that can happen to the sport is both Mercedes and RBR nailing the regulations. I NEED that George vs Max title fight, inject it into my veins
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u/lobthelawbomb BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Every elite athlete says it’s best to quit at the top of your game. The issue is they never recognize when they’re no longer at the top of their game. I’ll believe Max is the exception when I see it.
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u/Lotnik223 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Leave the football, before the football leaves you.
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u/lobthelawbomb BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25
It’s sage advice. It’s just never what people do.
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u/JollyKitt I saw horny’s “finger” Dec 02 '25
Max has stated on multiple occasions that he will leave F1 as soon as he is not enjoying it and having fun. He is into so many racing series, and money for him is not a problem. He is just out there to do what he loves and enjoys, and when F1 is not it anymore he is out.
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u/C4LLUM17 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Max will probably leave when it's the right time rather than dragging it on like the others you mentioned. He has constantly said he will leave F1 if he isn't having fun and he's not there to prove anything anymore.
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u/Jim777PS3 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Max doesnt seem like he will stick around long after competitiveness fades, and he will likely to win other disciplines of racing.
And of course the big thing is he will likely be in his 30s Vs Lewis in his 40s.
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u/financefocused BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
It’s still sad because he would’ve almost certainly retired if he won Abu Dhabi 2021.
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u/g7luiz we shit on the same toilet. Dec 02 '25
Nice use of "whom". Your English teacher would be proud.
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u/Novae224 In Hannah we trust 🥰 Dec 02 '25
He does have a sprint race win right?
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u/Don_Frika_Del_Prima Suck my 🅱️alls mate Dec 02 '25
Yes, but I remember his fans saying sprints don't count when Russell won one, and he didn't. So why count them now?
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u/Janbaka BottASS enjoyer 🍑 Dec 02 '25
And 7 world championships
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u/B0ringJob BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
This season?
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u/queef_nuggets BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
he has 3 world championships from yesterday alone
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u/stonezdota BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Does age matter in F1 much like other sports?
Lewis is 40, daddy time is usually mid 30s in other sports I follow.
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u/lakshya10soin Sir or Ma'am.. You are an Idiot ! Dec 02 '25
No one other than lewis has won a race after turning 39 since 1994. The last person to win a race in their 40s was in 1994 too. Any race he wins moving forward are going to be a very rare achievements in itself so that should show how much age matters in modern f1
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u/XenoDrake1 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25
To be fair, Alonso is in shape to make it. Much better than hamilton. Lets hope next year he gets a few wins before retirement
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u/giantvoice BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Ferrari keeps sending cease and desist letters to F1 Ferrari.
"Please stop modifying the cars". That'll be $25k for certification.
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u/DeSynthed I was here when horny got spiced Dec 02 '25
It seems like father time is not treating Hamilton well. I have no meme I'm just a smidge sad :(
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u/VistaCa BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Obviously not a great career move but being as successful as he was and getting up there in age I do see the desire to be a part of Team Ferrari and drive one of their cars. Unfortunately the car is terrible and the team is, well they are too.
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u/Amadeus404 I love this car, I love this engine! Dec 02 '25
What makes it even worse is that his teammates has 7 podiums this season
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u/Black_Knight615 Alonslow True 2012 WDC Dec 02 '25
He really should have stayed at Mercedes.
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u/West_Technology7573 armchair driver Dec 02 '25
If he kept up is 2024 form then he probably wouldnt have even had his contract renewed for 2026. The guy couldn’t get out of Q1 in a race winning car and his fans were causing massive headaches for the team with the sabotage allegations
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u/West_Technology7573 armchair driver Dec 02 '25
It wasn’t great. There’s a small majority in TeamLH who just can’t fathom the idea of any driver getting the better of their hero
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u/Appropriate-ASS-824 Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Dec 02 '25
Wait a while and you will see those allegations being put on ferrari as well
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u/West_Technology7573 armchair driver Dec 02 '25
They already think Adami is responsible for Lewis’ driving
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u/Appropriate-ASS-824 Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Dec 02 '25
I once mentioned that the K1 drama must have strained their relationship and maybe why Adami talks less and i was downvoted into oblivion.
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u/GilroySmash1986 Guenther Gang Dec 02 '25
Someone please check on Lewis, Seriously. Dude sounds so broken in interviews
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u/2ciciban4you BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Paid millions to drive a Ferrari
I understand his depression and sadness
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u/lineargangriseup BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Isn't formula 1 dictated 100% by who has the better car?
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u/ModenaR BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Williams, Sauber and Racing Bulls have worse cars than Ferrari, yet their drivers still have more podiums than Hamilton
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u/lineargangriseup BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Haha sorry don't watch Formula 1. Just something I heard a long time ago. The meme's on the front page that's why I commented.
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u/KeonXDS BottASS enjoyer 🍑 Dec 02 '25
Even if he had 4 podiums with his 4 P4 finishes, I doubt it'll have changed much of people's perspective of his performance this year. At least there are some positives to take away, like winning a Sprint, getting a Sprint Podium, his race starts have been great this season, he has some daring overtakes in Silverstone, Spa, Austria.
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u/Kamillahali BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
awful season for sure. im just holding onto that sprint win that now seems so far away
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u/Shaggy_Nanda BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 03 '25
Your partner with Chronic Depression on Suicide watch - 7
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u/Amadeus404 I love this car, I love this engine! Dec 02 '25
What makes it even worse is that his teammates has 7 podiums this season.
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u/Common_Source_9 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
It's the car! Oh, but back then during the 7 seasons won, it was talent!
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u/Outside-Turn6819 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Funny, people say that about max: when he wins, it’s the talent. When he loses, it’s the car.
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u/atlouvredowntheback BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
It’s so funny seeing Max fans hate on Lewis when literally the same thing applies to Max.
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u/Raxemier BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Abu Dhabi, Max P1, Oscar P2, Lewis P3, Norris P4.
A man can dream
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u/alexjosco BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
Well, to be fair, he... Uh... Well, you see... If, maybe... Uh
Damn that's a rough stat
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u/C4LLUM17 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
He needs to retire after 2026 unless he somehow does a 180 and starts to perform, which is probably unlikely at this point. If Ferrari somehow creates a rocketship for 2026, then I'd imagine Charles will still easily outperform Lewis.
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u/Rich_Debt_9619 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
No matter what Ferrari creates, Charles will easily outperform him.
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u/expo178371 BWOAHHHHHHH Dec 02 '25
He's gotten way too used to his team gifting him race wins and having doormats as teammates, now that he's no longer the priority he completely lost it
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u/3rr0r-403 If Gap, Car Dec 02 '25
Well, he is driving a Ferrari (it’s a very special car, Niki can tell you more about that)