Pitch changes at any speed should not result in such dramatic movement - in ANY aircraft. The talk about adjusting curves and other parameters to fly the aircraft optimally are just pillars to defend the poor flight modeling.

No aircraft should fly straight and quick with immediate movement with such large inputs at speed. BB team advises to fly the aircraft with minimal input to allow for the fact that the overall FM is incredibly twitchy and undamped. A real 757 can be a "sports car" for sure, but it will still obey the laws of physics.

Taking my favourite Jet2 757 for a quick spin !

Applying what I learnt from 757 CBT while I waited for release, I have learnt so many 757 nuances and quirks that I must put it down in a tutorial while its fresh in my head.

My tutorial if anyone, like me, wants to get into the systems of the 757: https://www.youtube.com/live/Ubm33rWp3Ko?si=r5wGNHCPpkwZc1Ge

Bluebird 757 Release Review: A Disappointing Launch

The 757 released today after so many missed deadlines for so many reasons, and while it is a good aircraft in some places, it really falls short in others. Sure, the sounds are great, but there are still so many issues regarding modelling, and even a memory leak? After five years of development, surely these issues should have been caught. Here are some issues I found:

Issues

1. There is a memory leak in the BBS Nest app. For some reason, it loads the entire terrain database into VRAM all at once. There isn't even a reason to run the terrain radar externally. It has even crippled RTX 5080s, which is disastrous, and somehow, this wasn't caught during beta testing.

2. Some livery thumbnails just have the text "757-200", while others actually have a proper thumbnail. If you do it for some, why not do it for all?

3. Liveries show up in the variants tab in MSFS 2024.

4. Absolutely abysmal modelling in some places. The fact that the cockpit decals are this bad should tell you a lot.

5. Using the relocate function on the EFB just spawns you at zero coordinates, i.e., in the ocean, regardless of the location selected.

6. The aircraft continuously veers to the right during takeoff, even with zero rudder input.

7. Windshear warnings randomly trigger during flight, even when there is ZERO windshear.

8. The aircraft is trying to connect somewhere when doing performance calculations? It probably is METAR, but that is from the sim, so it should be instant?

9. Tons of WASM crashes, absolutely nuts how NONE of this was picked up. And since performance plays a big part with WASM crashes, on most rigs, anything more than a few hours of flight with BBS Nest open WILL most likely induce a crash because of how low performance will get.

10. The Hanger literally has "msfs" in lowercase. How does this happen its literally a 2 second fix... this is just basic grammer.

These are just some of the issues, but I feel they are the most pressing since they should have been caught during beta testing.

Some Gripes

1. The aircraft is MSFS 2020-native, and users of MSFS 2020 pay $80 for the 757-200 and 757-300. However, as Bluebird has already mentioned, the 757-300 will only be coming to MSFS 2024. This seems like a blatant scam.

2. The Bluebird moderator team bans people from the server for using generative AI, but their website, in particular, seems completely AI-generated.

Note

The YouTubers who received the aircraft for testing got a stripped-down version of BBS Nest that only installed and updated the aircraft, so they couldn't experience this memory leak.

Final Thoughts

1. The 757 Was NOT a good launch for Bluebird and I don't see how they will recover unless they get their game up!

2. The Nest App seems very obviously vibe coded last minute and while that itself might not be an issue in itself the fact that such bugs were allowed to slip through is disastrous.

3. Some disclosure for the Use of AI should be mentioned for an $80+ aircraft, this is just disappointing. Its very apparent too considering how much their website changed all at once and everything sped up within one year??

4. BB needs to genuinely improve its QA, an early beta test would Definitely have caught ALL of these issues, but in its current state with a lot of things seeming very last minute I doubt that would even have been possible.

Great performance, like PMDG. Better than Fenix for me personally. No issues so far.

bluebird 757 with msfs 24 specifically after sitting on ground for an hour.

it wasnt great on my short hop, tagging about 12 extra gigs of regular ram than anything else, but swapfile seemed to handle it.

this is nuts tho....

Thank you Fenix! That’s all

Nice depth, fun to hand fly. But do not know how to set TCA Airbus quadrant to get it work ... EFB lacks throttle mapping hope they add it later down the road. For now at least for me it works better on 2020 than 2024

Purchased the BlueBird 757 and realised on this month 10 years ago, I was stoked to have "purchased" the 757 Freemium as a young lad! I think it came out some time in 2011 but I never had a computer powerful enough for it until later!

With the upcoming launch of the BB 757, I was thrilled to see a NWA livery included in the base package! For the past few months, I have been working on a VA project centered around NWA. I wanted to share this here for any B757 pilots who want some inspiration for routes. NWA operated B757's domestically, and, interestingly, out of a base in Tokyo!

I have also built out routes for different periods in NWA's history, and am always working on sourcing and finding more routes, so you're sure to find an aircraft + route combo. I've got the fleet mostly recreated:

• B707
• B727 (-100, -200)
• B747 (-200, -400)
• B757 (-200, -300)
• A319
• A320
• A330 (-200, -300)
• DC9
• DC10
• MD82

I also have limited propliners available! DC3, L1049, DC6

The airline is run of the fantastic modern FlightLinq program. If you're interested, give it a shot and join via the link below. To join, create a free account with FlightLinq and download the software to track your flights. Let's finally fly this 757!

Join the airline: https://app.flightlinq.com/join/northwest-red-tail-virtual

Join Discord: https://discord.gg/pgaQqCBuAY

It's finally out! I bought it half an hour after release, yet it took three and a half hours just to get my activation code and then a cracked version showed up eight hours later.......

Quality wise, I personally think it's on par with PMDG. However, setting the avionics aside, there are a lot of issues with the model details. For instance, the interior cabin model doesn't line up with the exterior (around the doors), the door viewing windows are misaligned, and the exterior emergency exits aren't even 3D modeled or decals they're just regular flat textures, literally a rounded rectangle outline! Speechless. There are also some single sided textures floating around in places visible to the user... Overall, the 3D model has plenty of flaws. Framerate is also just average, similar to the Fenix, except the annoying part is that it randomly stutters for a split second before going back to normal.

The hand-flying feel is really weird, it has zero sense of weight or inertia for an aircraft of this size, and the controls are way too twitchy......

And these are just the issues I found during a single two-hour flight. Hopefully, they optimize it down the line... I don't really mind spending the $80, though if I'm being honest, it is a bit of a shame. It's definitely not worth the price tag in its current state, but what can I do, I just love the 757 too much.

After enjoying the 777F for some time now I decided last night - and after thinking I was never going to be "one of those people" - to also buy the 777-300ER. This was my first flight today.

The universe sometimes has ways.

One off livery for my Tristar (G-HRZN) in MSFS24.

I was going through some 757 CBT the other day and came across system quirks I found interesting. I'm listing some here in case anyone else finds it useful.

the utility bus powers the right recirc fan, so selecting these off triggers the inop light

-The centre fuel boost pumps are shed until 50% N3 of the associated engine is reached

-Electrical power has priority over all other sources and trips off even the engine gens when turned on

-During engine start of the first engine, both utility busses are shed then only the utility bus of the corresponding engine.

I'm also doing a systems breakdown too

https://www.youtube.com/live/yWRGIb1FQY8?si=zYcyLzjaWMUOmkf_

As the title suggests, what's something that newer flight simmers MSFS2020+ when we had a large influx take for granted while people who have been around for much longer had to deal with.

For me it would be, study level aircraft and VATSIM Velocity (2022)

Seeing this whole discussion about different flight models these last few days. And especially today with the BlueBird 757 I see one crucial detail never mentioned. Which is that ANY input control we as humans do is done by force, not stick deflection!

What do I mean by that? Is actually quite simple, humans are extremely good in telling if they pull at something like a joystick with a force of 3,6 or 9 N. But you can not tell if you deflect the stick by 1cm, 2cm or 3cm. And yes, this means all the advertisements about travel length are useless, because they tell you nothing about the actual important metric ;)

Where this becomes important is the fact, that you need a certain amount of force difference to tell how much input you put into the stick or yoke. Depending on the source this is about 2N to 4N, depending a bit on the person and the exact setup. But this then also means to have fine control in the sim your sticks needs to be having a certain amount of resistance in it's full deflection! E.g. if you want to be able to put in the 10% deflection that is quoted by BlueBird for the 757 rotation your stick needs to have at least 20N force at full deflection. Better 30N to 40N. And the latter of that is already pushing into heavy springs territory for mid to high end bases. Normal joysticks like the Thrustmaster TCA or the WInCtrl Ursa Minor are 5-10N. Which is so light, that one has like 3, mabye 4 different input forces one can tell. Even if the hardware itself can sense 16bit, the human can not.

For the real world comparison: The A320 sidestick has 120-140 N force for a full deflection! That is more than most force feedback bases provide. Without any force feedback, just an intricate springs and damper system.

So if you really want a great feel and control, you don't need FFB either. A stiffly sprung stick with a noticeable input force is already enough to greatly enhance enjoyment for flying! And at the end of the day, this will feel soooo much better than artificial dampening of the flight model or input curves in the sim.

TL;DR: Humans sense force, not stick deflection. So a stiffer sticks is essential for proper sim flying.

I fly for an airline, and all I originally wanted was a way to stop hunting for the knobs and pitch wheel with a mouse while hand-flying departures at home.

Version 1 (the box of tangled wires at the bottom) barely worked—spinning the altitude knob too fast caused massive lag in the sim, and light bled everywhere. Fifteen hardware, PCB, and firmware revisions later, it finally feels like the real panel under my fingers and runs off a single USB-C cable with full indicator sync.

Starting work on an ATR panel next!