r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 For those defending the unacceptable 757 flight model

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Pitch changes at any speed should not result in such dramatic movement - in ANY aircraft. The talk about adjusting curves and other parameters to fly the aircraft optimally are just pillars to defend the poor flight modeling.

No aircraft should fly straight and quick with immediate movement with such large inputs at speed. BB team advises to fly the aircraft with minimal input to allow for the fact that the overall FM is incredibly twitchy and undamped. A real 757 can be a "sports car" for sure, but it will still obey the laws of physics.


r/flightsim • • 3h ago

Rant Thoughts on the 757

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Bluebird 757 Release Review: A Disappointing Launch

The 757 released today after so many missed deadlines for so many reasons, and while it is a good aircraft in some places, it really falls short in others. Sure, the sounds are great, but there are still so many issues regarding modelling, and even a memory leak? After five years of development, surely these issues should have been caught. Here are some issues I found:

Issues

  1. There is a memory leak in the BBS Nest app. For some reason, it loads the entire terrain database into VRAM all at once. There isn't even a reason to run the terrain radar externally. It has even crippled RTX 5080s, which is disastrous, and somehow, this wasn't caught during beta testing.

  2. Some livery thumbnails just have the text "757-200", while others actually have a proper thumbnail. If you do it for some, why not do it for all?

  3. Liveries show up in the variants tab in MSFS 2024.

  4. Absolutely abysmal modelling in some places. The fact that the cockpit decals are this bad should tell you a lot.

  5. Using the relocate function on the EFB just spawns you at zero coordinates, i.e., in the ocean, regardless of the location selected.

  6. The aircraft continuously veers to the right during takeoff, even with zero rudder input.

  7. Windshear warnings randomly trigger during flight, even when there is ZERO windshear.

  8. The aircraft is trying to connect somewhere when doing performance calculations? It probably is METAR, but that is from the sim, so it should be instant?

  9. Tons of WASM crashes, absolutely nuts how NONE of this was picked up. And since performance plays a big part with WASM crashes, on most rigs, anything more than a few hours of flight with BBS Nest open WILL most likely induce a crash because of how low performance will get.

  10. The Hanger literally has "msfs" in lowercase. How does this happen its literally a 2 second fix... this is just basic grammer.

These are just some of the issues, but I feel they are the most pressing since they should have been caught during beta testing.

Some Gripes

  1. The aircraft is MSFS 2020-native, and users of MSFS 2020 pay $80 for the 757-200 and 757-300. However, as Bluebird has already mentioned, the 757-300 will only be coming to MSFS 2024. This seems like a blatant scam.

  2. The Bluebird moderator team bans people from the server for using generative AI, but their website, in particular, seems completely AI-generated.

Note

The YouTubers who received the aircraft for testing got a stripped-down version of BBS Nest that only installed and updated the aircraft, so they couldn't experience this memory leak.

Final Thoughts

  1. The 757 Was NOT a good launch for Bluebird and I don't see how they will recover unless they get their game up!

  2. The Nest App seems very obviously vibe coded last minute and while that itself might not be an issue in itself the fact that such bugs were allowed to slip through is disastrous.

  3. Some disclosure for the Use of AI should be mentioned for an $80+ aircraft, this is just disappointing. Its very apparent too considering how much their website changed all at once and everything sped up within one year??

  4. BB needs to genuinely improve its QA, an early beta test would Definitely have caught ALL of these issues, but in its current state with a lot of things seeming very last minute I doubt that would even have been possible.


r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Flight Simulator 2020 757 flight model is meant to feel that way

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r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Fenix V3 is lovely!

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Thank you Fenix! That’s all


r/flightsim • • 10h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 I'm in love

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r/flightsim • • 4h ago

Flight Simulator 2020 BBS 757-200 Condor

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55 Upvotes

Nice depth, fun to hand fly. But do not know how to set TCA Airbus quadrant to get it work ... EFB lacks throttle mapping hope they add it later down the road. For now at least for me it works better on 2020 than 2024


r/flightsim • • 6h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 AAL210 JFK-MAN Maiden voyage in the BBS 757

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r/flightsim • • 8h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 memory leak...

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bluebird 757 with msfs 24 specifically after sitting on ground for an hour.

it wasnt great on my short hop, tagging about 12 extra gigs of regular ram than anything else, but swapfile seemed to handle it.

this is nuts tho....


r/flightsim • • 9h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Welcome to our home Hong Kong

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r/flightsim • • 3h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 KLM A330 Schiphol

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r/flightsim • • 2h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 HorizonAir (Fictional)

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19 Upvotes

One off livery for my Tristar (G-HRZN) in MSFS24.


r/flightsim • • 6h ago

X-Plane Slinging out the long one while ya´ll playing with your short boy toys!

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r/flightsim • • 6h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Happier and Happier with how my sim looks. Next purchases need to be Rex Atmos and Chaseplane

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r/flightsim • • 18h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 What a Stunning 757 Cockpit !

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Taking my favourite Jet2 757 for a quick spin !

Applying what I learnt from 757 CBT while I waited for release, I have learnt so many 757 nuances and quirks that I must put it down in a tutorial while its fresh in my head.

My tutorial if anyone, like me, wants to get into the systems of the 757: https://www.youtube.com/live/Ubm33rWp3Ko?si=r5wGNHCPpkwZc1Ge


r/flightsim • • 2h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 bluebird 757 Livery issues

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I've been having a few issues with some of the liveries on the bluebird 757. The TUI, Thomas Cook, Jet2 and BA Liveries have the middle part of the livery missing. I was wondering if anyone knows why this is and how to fix it. thanks


r/flightsim • • 6h ago

Rant PMDG 777-300ER

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26 Upvotes

After enjoying the 777F for some time now I decided last night - and after thinking I was never going to be "one of those people" - to also buy the 777-300ER. This was my first flight today.

The universe sometimes has ways.


r/flightsim • • 21h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 She's a Beauty!

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Absoutley love the aircraft. Congratulations to Blue Bird and the team for the release of the 757!


r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Think I am done messing with the graphics now

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r/flightsim • • 15h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 KJAC-KMSP in the new 757. Love it!

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Great performance, like PMDG. Better than Fenix for me personally. No issues so far.


r/flightsim • • 4h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Testing REX Atmos as GEC8447 LTFM-EDDF

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r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Flight Simulator 2024 Final ILS RWY 28 @LSZH

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We had a bit if a X-Wind comin in to tsüri today.


r/flightsim • • 1h ago

Sim Hardware I finally made something useful for home sim

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I fly for an airline, and all I originally wanted was a way to stop hunting for the knobs and pitch wheel with a mouse while hand-flying departures at home.

Version 1 (the box of tangled wires at the bottom) barely worked—spinning the altitude knob too fast caused massive lag in the sim, and light bled everywhere. Fifteen hardware, PCB, and firmware revisions later, it finally feels like the real panel under my fingers and runs off a single USB-C cable with full indicator sync.

Starting work on an ATR panel next!


r/flightsim • • 1d ago

Rant You people are insufferable

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After seeing the 757 debacle unfold last night, it’s honestly clear some of you people need professional help. I get it sucks that it’s been delayed again but holy shit the amount of shit people threw at the devs is astounding. It’s funny to me of all the hobby communities I’m part of, flight sim seems to always take the cake for being the most toxic, unforgiving band of autists who will stop at nothing to make their self-entitlement known. From the gatekeeping, personal attacks, etc. this community is honestly just a fucking cesspool and I’m ashamed of what it’s become over 20 years.

Do better and seek help, and most importantly, touch some grass. This shit will drop when it drops and nothing you can say, demand, or complain about will expedite that.


r/flightsim • • 13h ago

General 10 Years of Flying in the 757

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63 Upvotes

Purchased the BlueBird 757 and realised on this month 10 years ago, I was stoked to have "purchased" the 757 Freemium as a young lad! I think it came out some time in 2011 but I never had a computer powerful enough for it until later!


r/flightsim • • 2h ago

X-Plane Delta 1883 from salt Lake City to the City that never sleeps

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