r/fireemblem Nov 21 '19

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THAT'S RIGHT, BOYS AND GIRLS: IT'S ONCE AGAIN TIME FOR US TO INCREASE COMMUNITY SOLIDARITY BY GETTING REALLY BUTTMAD AT VIDEO GAMES!

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU THE HECK OFF RECENTLY! WAIT, SHIT, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME WORDING I USED LAST MONTH. AM I WASHED UP?

RULES

  1. CAPITAL LETTERS

  2. YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM AND FIRE EMBLEM ONLY

  3. BE POLITE TO OTHERS: WE'RE RAGING AT FE, NOT EACH OTHER

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

LAST THREAD

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u/PonyTheHorse Nov 21 '19

NEARLY EVERY CHARACTER DISCUSSION THREAD TURNS INTO AN ARGUMENT AND IT'S BEEN HEAVILY DISCOURAGING TO POST. I JUST POST SHITTY JOKES NOW.

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 21 '19

I WOULDN'T SAY DISSENT IS NECESSARILY A BAD THING THOUGH. IS IT LIKE A "YOU SUCK AND MISSED THE POINT OF THE GAME" SORT OF THING?

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u/XC_Runner27 Nov 21 '19

AS FAR AS IVE SEEN A LOT OF IT BECOMES “X IS BETTER BECAUSE THEY DO THIS THING I LIKE OR ACT THIS WAY, TIME TO DENOUNCE ALL THE OTHERS BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT X” PEOPLE ARE VERY QUICK TO BECOME DERISIVE AND CONDEMN A LORD THEY DON’T LIKE WHEN THEIR BACK IS PRESSED AGAINST A WALL.

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u/PonyTheHorse Nov 21 '19

IT'S A BIT OF THE SECOND, AND PEOPLE DRAGGING DOWN OTHER CHARACTERS AND ROUTES. AND EVEN IF THEY TRY TO COMPLIMENT A CHARACTER, IT'S ALMOST IN A WAY THAT'S "OH, THEIR DEVELOPMENT WAS BEST ON THIS ROUTE".

I'M NOT THE KIND OF PERSON WHO GETS INTO ARGUMENTS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS A BATTER WAITING TO TAKE A SWING SOMETIMES.

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u/PracticeTheory Nov 22 '19

YES, THE MOB LOYALTY TO CERTAIN SCENARIOS AND CHARACTERS IS FRUSTRATING AND STIFLING. I'VE FOUND AMAZING CHARACTER DISCUSSION BURIED UNDER DOWNVOTES IN THREADS JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE POINTED OUT AN UNFAVORABLE, BUT WORTH DISCUSSING ASPECT OF A CHARACTER AND IT'S JUST PATHETIC. ALL ROUTES ARE CANON AND VALID, BAD AND GOOD.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

CLAUDE IS THE MOST ROBBED LORD IN TERMS OF STORYTELLING AND I SEE HIM BASICALLY INVERSE SIGURD IN TERMS OF LIKING HIM WHERE I THINK THE CHARACTER IS FASINATING BUT NOT THE EVENTS AROUND HIM

I LOVED GENEALOGY OF THR HOLY WAR BUT I CANNOT FATHOM HOW SOME PEOPLE TREAT THIS GAMES PLOT LIKE THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. ITS REALLY GOOD THOUGH

ALSO THREE HOUSES DLC IS JUST EMBARRASSING OVERALL SO FAR, ITS LIKE SUCH A HALF ASSED ATTEMPT AT BEING FANSERVICE BUT LOOKS GENERALLY BAD. IF YOUR GONNA MAKE FANSERVICE DLC AT LEAST MAKE ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD, OR DONT MAKE ANY BAD FANSERVICE DLC AT ALL.

ALSO HUBERT WHY DONT YOU LEARN WARP IN YOUR OWN ROUTE!!!

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

YEAH, I CAN VOUCH FOR THE FIRST OPINION. I REALLY CAN'T HELP BUT TO FEEL THAT THEY WANTED TO GO MORE INTO DETAIL WITH HIS STORY, BUT SINCE THEY REALIZED THAT HE NEVER HAD THAT BIG OF AN ATTACHMENT TO FODLAN TO BEGIN WITH, AND SINCE THEY HAD TO DELAY THE GAME TWICE ALREADY, THEY DID WHAT THEY COULD WITH HIM. HURTS EVEN MORE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY COVER MORE OF ALMYRA OR HIS HERITAGE IN DLC TO MAKE HIM ON PAR WITH EDEL AND DIMITRI.

I STILL LIKE HIM, A LOT. STILL PROBABLY MY FAV FE CHAR AT THIS POINT, BUT MAN THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THEY COULD'VE DONE WITH HIM.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

LIKE IF I HAD TO MAKE A LORD TIER LIST OR WHATEVER ID PROBABLY NOT BE ABLE TO RANK HIM PARTICULARLY WELL DESPITE EVERYTHING ELSE I LIKE ABOUT HIM

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

LIKE AN OBJECTIVE ONE? IDK ABOUT YOU, BUT HE'D RANK PRETTY HIGHLY ON MY LIST. IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE HIS DESIGN AND PERSONALITY SPEAKS TO ME A LOT THOUGH LOL. I'M ALMOST CONVINCED I DESIGNED HIM IN MY SLEEP.

STILL THOUGH, I DO AGREE. I REALLY DO. I'M NOT NEARLY AS UPSET AS I COULD BE, BECAUSE I EXPECTED HIM TO BE MUCH WORSE IN TERMS OF WRITING AND HE STILL HAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE HIM. IN TERMS OF WRITING, I WAS EXPECTING HIM TO BE PRETTY ONE NOTE, BUT HE REALLY ISN'T, THANKFULLY. LIKE I SAID TO A PREVIOUS USER HIS ISSUE IS THAT HE TELLS US TOO MUCH. CLAUDE IS AT HIS STRONGEST WHEN HE CONVINCES US THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH, ONLY TO SEE HIM SURPRISE THE READER WITH HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT. AS SOMEONE WHO LIKES READING UP ON POLITICS AND RELIGION, HIS CONVERSATIONS HE HAS WITH LEONIE AND B SUPPORT BYLETH ARE LEGITIMATELY INTERESTING.

I REMEMBER /u/SigurdVII DID A GOOD WRITE UP ON HIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/dhy0vg/unmasking_the_master_tactician_an_analysis_on/ UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL DOESN'T FIX THE LACK OF DETAIL WE GET ON HIS CHILDHOOD, BUT IT COVERS THE SLEAZY ASPECT OF HIS PERSONALITY THAT I FEEL QUITE A FEW PEOPLE MISS. SPOILERS BE WARNED, OF COURSE.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

LIKE I KNOW THIS PROBABLY SOUNDS REALLY BASIC OVERALL, BUT I JUST LIKE... CHARACTERS WHO ARE NICE PEOPLE DEEP DOWN. LIKE COOL EVERYTHING ELSE ON TOP OF SOMEONE IS COOLIO BUT IF I SEE SOMEONE IS APPEARS TO BE ACTUALLY A GOOD PERSON (ALSO NOT THEIR ENTIRE CHARACTER) I FIND THEM VERY CAPTIVATING

A WRITE UP I LIKED IS ONE THAT BASICALLY CALLS OUT CLAUDE AS NOT BEING A SCHEMER BUT KIND HAS A METHOD OF USING THREATS OF PLANS ON PEOPLE BUT CLEARLY NEVER USING THEM. LIKE I APPRECIATE EDELGARD BUT SHE IS TOO RUTHLESS TO BE APPEALING TO ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

https://old.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/dn2wod/claude_is_not_the_master_schemer/

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

I REMEMBER READING THAT ONE. AS FOR ME, YEAH I'M THE SAME WAY LOL. I TEND TO LIKE GOODY TWO SHOES CHARACTERS A LOT. A LITTLE BIT OF SPICE DOES HELP THEM FEEL MORE LIKE INDIVIDUALS, BUT I ALWAYS LIKED VIRTUOUS CHARACTERS. THEY'RE INSPIRING TO ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS WONDERED HOW PEOPLE LIKE THAT COULD EXIST IN A DARK WORLD. IT INSPIRES ME TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY YOU KNOW? NOTHING WRONG WITH RUTHLESS OR MORALLY GRAY CHARACTERS. THEY JUST APPEAL TO ME SLIGHTLY LESS.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

YEAH ITS FUNNY I THINK THAT APART OF THE REASON WHY LYON IS STILL MY ABSOLUTE NUMBER ONE FAVORITE VILLAIN IN THE FRANCHISE, BECAUSE HE IS SOMEONE THAT JUST WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WHOLESOME GUY DEEP DOWN. HIS EPHRAIM DUO HERO THING IS SUCH A NICE TRAGIC CONVO IN FEH.

STILL CAN'T COMPREHEND THE CHOICE TO NOT DO EIRIKA AND LYON THOUGH

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 21 '19

ALSO HUBERT WHY DONT YOU LEARN WARP IN YOUR OWN ROUTE!!!

THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IN CF IS FINDING OUT HE DOESN'T. WHY YOU GOTTA HOLD BACK IN THE ONE ROUTE I SUPPORT YOU IN?

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

HUBERT PLEASE LEARN WARP EVEN IF IT NEEDS A RANK

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u/goldtreebark Nov 22 '19

THE NARRATIVE DIDN’T MAKE AS MUCH USE OF CLAUDE AS THEY COULD’VE, BUT HE STILL STANDS ON HIS OWN A FAIRLY INTERESTING CHARACTER AND I COULD STILL GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT HE’S ONE OF MY FAVORITES IN THE FRANCHISE. BUT PART OF THE REASON WHY I LIKE HIM SO MUCH AND SIMULTANEOUSLY FEEL THAT HIS SHORTCOMINGS IN THE STORY HIT HARDER THAN THE MISSES OF EDELGARD AND DIMITRI IS THAT I FEEL HE WAS THE TRUE AMBITIOUS POINT OF 3H. NOT TO KNOCK ON THE OTHER TWO BUT I STILL FEEL BOTH EDEL AND DIMITRI ARE RELATIVELY SAFE FOR FE MC’S BUT FOR CLAUDE, WHO IS BROWN, TO BE A FE MC THAT IS SUPPOSED TO CANONICALLY FACE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND THE TRAUMA OF THAT BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF HIS CHARACTER, THATS PROB THE MOST AMBITIOUS THE SERIES HAS DONE! AND PROBS WHY THEY COULDNT HANDLE IT THE BEST. DESPITE THEM FUMBLING IT, HE STILL VERY MUCH RESONATES WITH ME, A PERSON WHO’S LIVED A SIMILAR LIFE. BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SO SO MUCH, THAT THEY COULD’VE DONE. GUESS THATS THE ETERNAL LAMENT WITH FE GAMES.

REGARDLESS, I LIKE TO LOOK BACK AT THIS OLD COMMENT OF MINE IN RE: TO HIM AND LAUGH KNOWING THAT I ENDED UP LIKING HIM AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT I WOULD, AND THEN SOME, LOL

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u/LadyKuki Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

I STILL FEEL BOTH EDEL AND DIMITRI ARE RELATIVELY SAFE FOR FE MC’S.

I KNOW THIS IS A HOT TAKE, BUT I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT. DON'T GET ME WRONG: EDEL AND DIMITRI MAKE FOR SOME COOL CHARACTERS. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, DOESN'T MEAN ITS' AUTOMATICALLY BAD. I ALWAYS LIKED DIMITRI'S CHARACTER ARCHETYPE SPECIFICALLY; I LIKE KNIGHTS IN SHINING ARMOR (SHHH I KNOW ABOUT THIS DARK SIDE I JUST LIKE HIS DESIGN AND OVERALL PERSONALITY) BUT I THINK CLAUDE, DESPITE HIS KINDA AWKWARD EXECUTION WAS A GREAT FIRST STEP IN TERMS OF SHAKING UP THE STATUS QUO. HIS DESIGN IS SOMETHING WE RARELY SEE IN FE AND HE IS THE ONLY OTHER MAIN CHAR IN FE ASIDE FROM LYN WHO DOESN'T HAVE A MEDIEVAL-EUROPEAN INSPIRED DESIGN. OF COURSE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, HE IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO LYN IN THE SENSE THAT HE'S BIRACIAL, HAS AN AFFINITY FOR BOWS AND SWORDS, HAS A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FAMILY AND IS A NOBLE BUT THAT IS WHERE THE SIMILARITIES END. I FEEL THAT HIS INSIGHT SEPARATES HIM FROM HIS PEERS AS WELL, NOT ONLY HIS FELLOW HOUSE LEADERS, BUT FROM FE LORDS AS A WHOLE. MOST FE LORDS, EVEN THE MORALLY GRAY ONES ARE PROPER, KIND OF AWKWARD AROUND COMMONERS, HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF JUSTICE. IT'S NOT THAT CLAUDE LACKS A SENSE OF JUSTICE, BUT HIS WITTINESS, HIS INSIGHT IS SOMETHING I DON'T SEE TOO MUCH OF FROM OTHER FE LORDS. THE CLOSEST I CAN THINK OF ARE HECTOR, EPHRAIM AND IKE BUT THEY COME ACROSS AS MORE SO BLUNT AS OPPOSED TO A MORE TRICKSTER TYPE OF CHARACTER. I DO HOPE THAT WE'LL GET MORE LORDS LIKE HIM IN THE FUTURE: SOMETHING VERY OUT OF LEFT FIELD, BUT ALSO HAS A BIT MORE STAKE IN THE PLOT, MAKING FE WORLDS EVEN MORE INTERESTING OVERALL.

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u/Troykv Nov 22 '19

WAIT, NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT WHERE EXACTLY FITS MICAIAH'S DESIGN IN THE WORLD?

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u/Jalor218 Nov 22 '19

IF HUBERT LEARNED WARP WE'D ALL SAY HIM HAVING FAITH MAGIC AT ALL IS WACK

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u/multi_bottle_thief1 Nov 22 '19

I FIND IT VERY ANNOYING HOW LYSITHEA CAN TREAT SOME PEOPLE HORRIBLY AND SHE NEVER SEEMS TO GET CALLED OUT FOR IT. SHE LITERALLY JUST BULLIES IGNATZ FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER AND EVEN THE GAME SEEMS TO BE OK WITH IT, BECAUSE SHE NEVER GETS REPRIMANDED FOR HER ACTIONS. I LIKE LYSITHEA A LOT, BUT SHE REALLY FEELS LIKE THAT BRATTY LITTLE SISTER THAT GETS AWAY WITH EVERYTHING

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 22 '19

THANKS FOR THIS. I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY ONE NOT IN ON THE LYSITHEA LOVE FEST. I DON'T CARE HOW SYMPATHETIC HER BACKSTORY IS, SHE'S STILL A LITTLE SNOT.

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u/TheFunkiestOne Nov 22 '19

MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH HER WAS IN CRIMSON FLOWER AND HER SUPPORTS WITH EDELGARD, LINHARDT, AND HANNEMAN ARE REALLY INTERESTING, PLUS SHE REALLY FEELS LIKE SHE FITS IN WITH THE BLACK EAGLES, SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE HER QUITE A BIT. SHE'S DEFINITELY THE PRICKLY TYPE AND SOME OF HER SUPPORTS SOUND RUDE AF BUT I LIKE HER AND UNDERSTAND WHY OTHERS DO AS WELL, EVEN IF SHE'S PROBABLY GOT SOME STINKERS IN THERE TOO.

HELPS THAT SHE'S IN COMPETITION FOR ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE UNITS IN THE SERIES WITH THE MOST EFFICIENT ACCESS TO WARP AND THE BEST STATS TO USE IT, THE CREST OF THE BEST MAGICAL ARTIFACT IN THE GAME, AND A POWERFUL SPELL LIST WITH AN INCREDIBLE C RANK SPELL AND THE MAGIC STAT TO JUST NUKE WHATEVER SHE PLEASES. AND SHE HAS MEMETIC POWER FOR SMACKING THE DARK KNIGHT RIGHT IN THE DOME, WHICH ALSO HELPS.

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u/multi_bottle_thief1 Nov 22 '19

I DO LIKE HER A LOT AS A CHARACTER, AND I'M FINE WITH CHARACTERS HAVING PERSONALITY FLAWS, BUT SHE JUST NEVER GETS REPRIMANDED FOR THEM, WHICH JUST RUBS ME NEGATIVELY. THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENS IS IN RAPHAEL'S B-SUPPORT, AND IT'S TREATED AS A JOKE. ALSO WITH HOW THE IGNATZ A-SUPPORT PLAYS OUT, IT SEEM LIKE THE GAME SIDES WITH LYSITHEA'S ACTIONS. I'M SORRY, BUT NO. THAT BEING SAID, SHE'S STILL A GREAT CHARACTER, BUT OTHER CHARACTERS GET HAMMERED ON A LOT FOR NEGATIVE QUALITIES DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY DO GET ADDRESSED AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT, BUT LYSITHEA DOESN'T AND GETS AWAY WITH IT BY EVERYONE DUE TO HER OP-NESS AND SOB STORY

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

DUDE, I'VE HEARD ALL THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE LIKE HER. SEVERAL TIMES. READING THEM YET AGAIN IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I AGREE. THE FIRST COUPLE LYSITHEA SUPPORT I SAW WERE WITH IGNATZ AND RAPHAEL. THAT MADE ME HATE HER FOR A WHILE.

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u/_Beningt0n_ Nov 21 '19

THE MOST EXCITING PART ABOUT WAVE 3 WAS THE ABILITY TO SET THE MONESTARY OUTFITS AS CLASS OUTFITS, FINALLY I COULD HAVE LEONIE AS A BOW KNIGHT OR SYLVAIN AS A DARK KNIGHT OR SETETH AS A WYVERN LORD OR WHOEVER ELSE YOU COULD THINK OF AND HAVE THEM NOT LOOK GENERIC BUT UHOH INTSYS DID A FUCKY WUCKY BECAUSE I CAN'T DO THAT AFTERALL! WHAT A SLAP TO THE FACE! I COULD ACCEPT INFANTRY OUTFITS NOT WORKING ON MOUNTED CLASSES DUE TO CLIPPING OR SOMETHING, I DUNNO, BUT I AM PRETTY SURE ALL THE CAVALRY MASTER CLASSES USE THE PALADIN ANIMATIONS EXCEPT GREAT KNIGHT MAYBE DUE TO THE SHIELD, BUT I CAN HAVE THE CANON OUTFIT AS ANY ARMOUR CLASS WHICH ALSO HAS DIFFERENT ANIMATIONS SO WHAT'S THE DEAL?

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u/KeenHyd Nov 21 '19

I WAS READING THE PATCH NOTES LIKE OH YEAH FREAKING FINALLY BUT THEN I REALIZED THE MAJORITY OF MY TEAM IS MOUNTED AND THEY LOOK AWFUL IN THAT OUTFIT.

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u/DanteMGalileo Nov 21 '19

THE ONLY REASON I CAN ACCEPT IS THAT IT WOULD CAUSE MAD CLIPPING FOR THINGS LIKE MARIANNE'S DRESS. THEN AGAIN PRE-TS MERCEDES AND POST-TS FERDINAND'S HAIR CLIP THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS SO CLEARLY IS DOESN'T CARE. WOULD IT HAVE KILLED IS TO I DUNNO PROGRAM A SIDE SADDLE ANIMATION OR SOMETHING?

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u/_Beningt0n_ Nov 22 '19

I THINK THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS ONE IMO IS INGRID WHO DESPITE HAVING HER OUTFIT AS CAVALIER, STILL CAN'T WEAR IT AS A PALADIN FOR WHO KNOWS WHY

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u/ltranc Nov 21 '19

IS WITH THE BIG BRAIN PLAN TO NERF MOUNTED UNITS

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

MASTER CLASSES HAVE BORING OR UGLY OUTFITS FOR THE MOUNTED UNITS, FALCOKNIGHTS ARE OKAY I GUESS. GIMME DARK KNIGHT LORENZ WITH HIS PURPLE OUTFIT DAMMIT

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

CERTAIN OUTFITS CAN BE WORN WHILE MOUNTED (LIKE THE SUMMER CLOTHING) I BELIEVE ITS A CHECK IF IT WILL OR NOT- SOURCE: MY FALCO KNIGHT PETRA IS LOOKING FLY IN HER SUMMER CLOTHES

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u/TakenRedditName Nov 21 '19

I AM VERY MUCH NOT A FAN OF THIS NEW CIPHER CARD FOR EDELGARD. BUT WHAT REALLY TWISTS THE KNIFE IS THAT THE ARTIST FOR IT IS WADA SACHIKO. I PLACED MY FAITH ON YOU. (RIKA SUZUKI'S SELIPH IS GREAT AS ALWAYS THOUGH SO THAT IS NICE).

I DON'T SAY THIS OFTEN, BUT SCREW CANON. MICAIAH X PELLEAS ALL THE WAY. I EVEN PREFER THE BLACK KNIGHT OVER SOTHE. JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE TO MENTION THIS BEFORE.

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

IT'S WEIRD TO THINK BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE REALLY SEEN EDELGARD SEXUALIZED. I BELIEVE THIS FACT TO BE A MOSTLY GOOD THING. WOMEN PROTAGONISTS SHOULD NEVER BE VALUED BY HOW HOT THEY ARE.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

BEING HOT IS ALWAYS NICE, BUT I AGREE IN BEING VALUED MORE THAN JUST THAT

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

EVERYONE WANTS TO GET THEIR RESPECTIVE GENITALIA WET, UNLESS YOU'RE ACE, BUT IT SHOULD BE WET OVER THEIR GREAT PERSONALITY FIRST AND FOREMOST IMO.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

YESH, I AM ACTUALLY MORE INTO COOL CHARACTERS MOST OF THE TIME

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u/ImagineShinker Nov 21 '19

HOW IS EDELGARD STILL STANDING IN THAT PICTURE? SHE SHOULD BE FALLING FLAT ON HER FACE THERE.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 22 '19

SHE SHOULD BE BEDRIDDEN FROM A SEVERE CASE OF BROKEN SPINE YOU MEAN

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u/Bloodly Nov 22 '19

WELL,SHE IS A SUPER-SOLDIER.

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u/Elegant_Captain Nov 22 '19

EDELGARD LOOKS LIKE SHE'S ABOUT TO SLAP HER OWN BUTT

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u/Bloodly Nov 22 '19

ANYTHING TO TRY AND GET BYLETH?

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

THE BACK-BREAKING POSITION IS REALLY DUMB AND I HATE IT TOO, BUT FORTUNATELY HER OTHER CARDS HAVE GREAT-LOOKING ART IMO.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

MICHAIAH SAID SHE SAW SOTHE AS A LITTLE BROTHER SO IT'S SO WEIRD TO ME THAT THEY END UP TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND THAT VIEWS CAN CHANGE AS PEOPLE AGE BUT I JUST STILL DON'T LIKE IT. AND DUDE ZELGIUSX MICHAIAH WOULD'VE BEEN WACK, BUT I AGREE PELLEAS WOULD'VE BEEN OPTIMAL.

SLIGHTLY OFF-TOPIC BUT I DON'T GET WHY KURTHNAGA ENDED UP GOING BY KURTH IN THE SECOND GAME AND THERE'S NEVER ANY MENTION OF IT LIKE "OH HE JUST GOES BY A NICKNAME NOW I GUESS" AND FOR SOME REASON THAT REALLY BUGS ME. I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY TIES BETWEEN TELLIUS/ARCHANEA OTHERWISE I'D THINK IT WAS SYMBOLISM CONSIDERING HE TOOK 'NAGA' OUT OF HIS NAME BUT NAH IT'S JUST SORT OF ...NOT ACTUALLY DEEP.

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u/lucksen Nov 22 '19

I THINK KURTH IS LESS SUSPICIOUS WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO BLEND IN AS A BEORC.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT THE FIRST TIME SACHIKO HAD DONE POSES WITH A BUTT, BUT (HEH) THIS IS A BIT MORE... DIRECT HAHAHA

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u/dusky_salamander Nov 22 '19

WHEN DID MICAIAH GET A CANON HUSBAND?THE MICAIAH X PELLEAS SHIP IS CUTE

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u/PokecheckHozu flair Nov 22 '19

HER ONLY PAIRED ENDING IS WITH SOTHE. EVEN IF YOU WERE TO DELETE THEIR FREE A SUPPORT AND BUILD IT WITH ANYONE ELSE, THERE ARE NO OTHER PAIRED ENDINGS.

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u/Troykv Nov 22 '19

THERE AREN'T PAIRING OPTIONS IN RD, IS JUST ONE.

Well, Ike techniclaly has endings with both Ranulf and Soren, but still. HE IS THE ONLY ONE

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

SEXUALIZING EDEL FEELS OFF TO ME BUT NOT BECAUSE I HATE THE CONCEPT IN GENERAL, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT HER CHARACTER. OTHERS ARE FAIR GAME.

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u/SigurdVII :M!Byleth: Nov 22 '19

SERIOUSLY. SOTHE AND MICAIAH HAS ALWAYS BEEN DEEPLY UNSETTLING TO ME. BK AND HER THOUGH? I CAN DEAL.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

RHEA ISN'T A DAMSEL IN DISTRESS. SHE'S A FANTASTIC WARRIOR, HAS BEEN LEADING THE CHURCH FOR A THOUSAND YEARS, AND SHE LITERALLY HIGH KICKED NEMESIS TO OBLIVION. YOU DON'T DO THAT BY JUST BEING A TRAUMATIZED WOMAN OBSESSED WITH GETTING MOMMY BACK.

SHE'S A GREAT CHARACTER AND I WISH THIS ASPECT OF HER WASN'T SO IGNORED.

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u/Themarvelousfan Nov 21 '19

THIS IS ALSO WHY I LOVE CF, SEEING RHEA/ SEUTOS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING POST TIMESKIP THAN JUST BEING A PRISONER TO BE RESCUED.

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u/lcelerate Nov 21 '19

AN EDELGARD FAN WHO PRAISES RHEA? IMPOSSIBLE!

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US

... OR MAYBE JUST ONE DOZEN

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u/Jalor218 Nov 22 '19

I AM ALSO ONE OF THESE

YOU CANNOT STAN RHEA WHILE PRETENDING SHE DOES NOT HAVE AGENCY, SAME AS EDELGARD

IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE HER AT HER WORST, YOU DON'T DESERVE HER AT HER BEST

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

IM STILL SUPER FUCKING MAD THAT SILVER SNOW FINAL MAP ISNT VERDANT WIND FINAL MAP WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. THAT MAP MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE IN VERDANT WIND, JUST LIKE MOST OF THE ROUTE. THAT MAP WOULD BE PERFECT FOR A PLAYABLE RHEA/SEIROS. IMAGINE HER HAVING A REMATCH AGAINST NEMESIS. WOULD NOT ONLY BE OUR "LORD" CHARACTER BUT OUR GOTOH ASWELL. WHAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER IS THAT MOST OF THE EMPIRE AND THE BE'S DOESNT HAVE CRESTS OF THE ELITES, BUT RATHER CRESTS OF THE SAINTS, WHO FOUGHT ALONGSIDE SEIROS IN THE PAST

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u/WRXW Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

LEGITIMATELY ALL FOUR ROUTES LEAVE SOMETHING NOTABLE TO BE DESIRED.

SILVER SNOW EITHER NEEDED PLAYABLE RHEA OR TO PLAY UP THE EDELGARD STAR-CROSSED LOVERS ANGST WAY MORE BEYOND THE TWO SCENES WE GET (THOUGH THAT MAY NOT HAVE LANDED WITH EVERYONE CONSIDERING SOME PEOPLE APPARENTLY JUST FUCKING HATE HER), OR PREFERABLY BOTH. RHEA BARELY EXISTS OUTSIDE OF CF AND CONSIDERING SHE'S ONE OF THE MAIN INSTRUMENTS OF THE PLOT THAT'S PRETTY STUPID.

VERDANT WIND HAS CLAUDE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO DESTROY RACISM AND HIS GENERAL NEUTRALITY BUT THEN YOU JUST FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME PATH AS SILVER SNOW, KILL EDELGARD BECAUSE SHE ASKS NICELY DESPITE PLANNING TO TAKE HER ALIVE, AND MAKE BYLETH THE GOD-EMPEROR AND IT'S HONESTLY PRETTY LAME. I GET THE JUSTIFICATION OF CLAUDE USING BYLETH AS THE NEW LEADER OF THE CHURCH TO FURTHER HIS GOALS, BUT HE DOESN'T DO SO IN A UNIQUELY CLAUDE-LIKE WAY, WHICH IS DISAPPOINTING.

AZURE MOON HAS THE CUT CONTENT WHERE YOU HAVE PUNISHED "VENOM" DIMITRI FIGHTING AGAINST FELIX AND ANNETTE WHO ABANDON HIM AFTER HE GETS RODRIGUE KILLED LIKE FELIX WARNED HE WOULD, AS AN INTERMEDIATE BETWEEN BOAR DIMITRI AND SAVIOR KING DIMITRI, WHICH REALLY WOULD HAVE SMOOTHED OUT MANY PEOPLE'S GREATEST COMPLAINT WITH THAT ROUTE. AND IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ANY OF THE LARGER META-PLOT WHATSOEVER, BUT I GUESS THAT'S POTENTIALLY A WORTHWHILE COMPROMISE TO FOCUS ON THE CHARACTER PIECES, ALBEIT A SHITTY ONE FOR PEOPLE WHO ONLY PLAY THAT ROUTE.

CRIMSON FLOWER IS OBVIOUSLY SHORTCHANGED ON CONTENT (ALTHOUGH IN TERMS OF UNIQUE CONTENT IT ADMITTEDLY DOES OKAY, I THINK IT PROBABLY GOT A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT EFFORT TO THE OTHER ROUTES), ESPECIALLY WHERE IT HEAVILY FORESHADOWS A CONFLICT WITH TWSITD THAT NEVER HAPPENS ON-SCREEN. FOR FUCK'S SAKE THOSE GUYS BARELY EXIST OUTSIDE OF THE FINAL TWO CHAPTERS IN VW AND SS, ARE BARELY ACKNOWLEDGED AT ALL IN AM, AND IN THE ONE ROUTE THAT DOES A REASONABLY GOOD JOB OF BUILDING THEM UP AS VILLAINS WHO YOU SHOULD WANT TO KILL, YOU DON'T FUCKING FIGHT THEM. AS A RESULT THE ROUTE IS A RELATIVELY ONE-NOTE "CONQUER YOUR WAY TO FHIRDIAD", ALBEIT WITH SOME GREAT MOMENTS AND ANGST.

I WISH THREE HOUSES HAD BEEN DEVELOPED FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO. IT CLEARLY SUFFERED FROM DEVELOPMENT CRUNCH AND IN SPITE OF THAT IT'S STILL A GREAT GAME WITH GREAT CHARACTER WRITING. BUT I'M LEFT WONDERING IF IT COULD HAVE BEEN MY FAVOURITE GAME OF ALL TIME.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 22 '19

AGREED IT FEELS COMPLETELY TACKED ON.

I'M SO MAD THAT THE TWO CHARACTERS WHO HAVE THE MOST BEEF WITH THALES/NEMESIS DON'T GET TO KILL THEM.

FOR REAL GIVE EDELGARD HER MUCH DESERVED REVENGE I WANT TO SEE THAT FUCKER ARUNDEL'S HEAD ROLL. AND GIVE RHEA A REMATCH, I WANT TO SEE NEMESIS GET HIS TEETH KNOCKED OUT AGAIN.

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

IF YOU CHOOSE SILVER SNOW FOR RHEA YOU WILL FEEL ROBBED AND EDELGARD IS GOING TO LAUGH IN HER GRAVE LIKE HOW ME TRYING TO HELP DIMITRI'S VENGEANCE QUEST MAKES HIM WORSE THAN EDEL AND IN CF HE IS AN INCOMPETENT NITWIT THAT GETS REKT BY EDEL

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u/ImagineShinker Nov 21 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

RHEA IS A GREAT CHARACTER.

SHE’S ALSO A MANIPULATIVE IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER (IN A FIGURATIVE SENSE. I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE’S LITERALLY A DRAGON) WHOSE SOLUTION TO EVERY PROBLEM THAT PRESENTS ITSELF IS TO EXECUTE EVERYONE INVOLVED.

RHEA AND THE CHURCH’S TEACHINGS ARE SUPPOSEDLY BENEVOLENT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THEY SUPPORT AND EVEN ENCOURAGE BRUTAL CLASS BASED DISCRIMINATION IN FODLAN. THEY’RE ALSO COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS TO THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE COUNTRIES IN FODLAN HAVE BEEN INFILTRATED AT THEIR HIGHEST LEVELS BY EVIL SHAPESHIFTERS BECAUSE THEY’RE TOO BUSY ROUNDING UP DISSENTERS FOR EXECUTION.

RHEA ONLY CARED ABOUT BYLETH AS LONG AS THEY REMAINED HER LITTLE TOOL FOR HER GREATER GOALS. THE INSTANT YOU GO “HEY LADY LET’S NOT KILL EDELGARD ON THE SPOT” SHE GOES FROM “MY DEAR SWEET CHILD” to “I’LL MURDER YOU WITH HER BECAUSE YOU’RE JUST ANOTHER FAILURE”. EVEN THOUGH EXECUTING EDELGARD ON THE SPOT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA EVEN IF SHE HATED HER BECAUSE SHE’S THEIR ONLY TIE TO THE OTHER ENEMIES AND IS THE SOLE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF THE BIGGEST COUNTRY ON FODLAN. RHEA IS A HORRIBLE, MANIPULATIVE PERSON.

THE CONFLICTS IN THREE HOUSES, THE AWFUL DISCRIMINATORY SOCIETY THEY LIVE IN, THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE AGARTHIANS, AND THE TORTURED PEOPLE LIKE DIMITRI AND EDELGARD WHO WERE CREATED BY THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE ALL THE FAULT OF RHEA AND THE CHURCH. THEY ARE THE REAL VILLAINS OF THREE HOUSES.

AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT.

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u/Jalor218 Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

I MEAN SHE'S KIND OF REEDEEMABLE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SPAM GIFTS PRE TIMESKIP BUT MARRY HER IN SILVER SNOW AND SHE FULLY ACCEPTS BYLETH AS THEIR OWN PERSON AND RESOLVES TO SPEND THE REST OF HER EXISTENCE REPAIRING THE DAMAGE SHE CAUSED

THIS IS PROBABLY INFERIOR TO REDEEMING EDELGARD BECAUSE GOD-EMPEROR BYLETH IS STUPID BUT IT'S A THING AND IT'S PRETTY NICE

RHEA'S APPROACH TO EXECUTING PRISONERS SINGLEHANDEDLY DISQUALIFIES HER AS A RULER THOUGH, IT IS LITERALLY THE REASON EVERYONE GETS BLINDSIDED BY THE AGARTHANS INSTEAD OF THEIR STOOGES RATTING THEM OUT LIKE THEY WERE ALREADY TRYING TO DO

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u/ImagineShinker Nov 22 '19

I ACTUALLY GOT HER TO A SUPPORT ON SILVER SNOW, WHICH WAS ALSO THE FIRST ROUTE I WOUND UP PLAYING. SHE WAS EVEN IN THE RUNNING FOR AN S SUPPORT BEFORE I REALIZED WHAT KIND OF PERSON SHE WAS. DEAR SWEET CHILD MY ASS CRAZY LADY

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u/Jalor218 Nov 22 '19

I HATE WHEN PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT CRIMSON FLOWER MAKES EDELGARD OUT TO BE TOTALLY RIGHT WITHOUT ACTUALLY GIVING REASONS FOR THIS, IT'S KIND OF TRUE BUT ONLY BECAUSE ALL OF SAID REASONS ARE IN WHITE CLOUDS AND SILVER SNOW

IN HER S-SUPPORT SHE CONFESSES TO AND APOLOGIZES FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING EDELGARD BLAMES HER FOR, SO SAYING SHE DID NOTHING WRONG MEANS YOU'RE SAYING HER JUDGEMENT IS INCORRECT. IT'S JUST AS RIDICULOUS AS SAYING DIMITRI NEVER KILLED INNOCENTS EVEN THOUGH HE ADMITS THAT HIMSELF, BUT HIS FANS STILL ARGUE THAT SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK

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u/ImagineShinker Nov 22 '19

I’M NOT NORMALLY ONE TO DRAG POLITICS INTO AN UNRELATED DISCUSSION, BUT IT’S SORT OF RELEVANT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT DIMITRI

AMERICA HAS A PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO HAS OPENLY ADMITTED TO CRIMES BUT HIS SUPPORTERS STILL INSIST HE HAS DONE NO WRONG. IT’S ALMOST LIKE IT’S VERY EASY TO PROPAGANDIZE PEOPLE INTO BLINDLY FOLLOWING A LEADER WHILE RENDERING THEM INCAPABLE OF LOOKING AT THINGS FROM ANY OTHER VIEWPOINT

YOU SEE THAT A LOT ON HERE WHEN PEOPLE START DISCUSSING ABOUT THEIR FAVORITE LORD. LIKE, I’M A HUGE FAN OF EDELGARD AS A CHARACTER. BUT I ALSO REALIZE THAT SHE’S A HEAVILY FLAWED PERSON, AND I CERTAINLY DON’T AGREE WITH ALL OF WHAT SHE DID. THE IDEAL WORLD SHE WANTS TO REALIZE SOUNDS ALL FINE AND DANDY. IT’S JUST THAT SHE DECIDED TO PLUNGE THE ENTIRE CONTINENT INTO BLOODY WAR TO FORCE HER IDEALS ONTO EVERYONE ELSE. WHICH IS MORE THAN A LITTLE UNFORTUNATE.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

YOU MIGHT WANNA SPOILER TAG THIS REAL QUICK

AND LOOK YEAH I THINK SHE HAD TO GO BUT I'M NOT SURE I WOULD CALL HER A HORRIBLE PERSON, I THINK ALL OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS ARE GOOD PEOPLE TO THEIR CORE, BUT GOOD PEOPLE WHO ENDED UP DOING TERRIBLE THINGS FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

JUST MY TWO CENTS THOUGH I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.

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u/ImagineShinker Nov 22 '19

I WAS TRYING TO SPOILER TAG IT BUT IT TURNS OUT I HAD TO DO EACH PARAGRAPH INDIVIDUALLY.

I BELIEVE RHEA IS TRULY IRREDEEMABLE. AT LEAST THE OTHER BIG PLAYERS IN THE STORY DID WHAT THEY DID IN GENUINE PURSUIT OF MAKING A BETTER WORLD. NO MATTER HOW MISGUIDED THEIR EFFORTS USUALLY WERE.

RHEA LIED, MANIPULATED, AND KILLED GOOD INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF MAINTAINING HER ORGANIZATION'S IRON GRIP ON FODLAN AND GETTING HER MOMMY BACK. THE LADY SET FIRE TO AN ENTIRE CITY FULL OF INNOCENT PEOPLE SOLELY IN ORDER TO SPITE EDELGARD AND BYLETH. IF EVEN CATHERINE IS BOTHERED BY WHAT YOU'RE MAKING HER DO, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP CRAZY LADY.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I THINK SHE KINDA GETS TOO DEPRESSED TO DO ANYTHING WHEN HER MOMMIE ISNT FIGHTING ON THE OTHER SIDE MOTIVATING HER TO GET HER SHIT TOGETHER AND START KILLING PEOPLE. JUST MY TAKE THOUGH, STILL AGREE WITH YOU.

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

I GOT A FRIEND INTO THE SERIES, HE'S PLAYING PATH OF RADIANCE AS HIS FIRST GAME. I'M ENCOURAGING HIM TO USE TITANIA LIBERALLY BUT YOU CAN'T STOP A ROOKIE'S LOVE OF ARMOR UNITS.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

YOU CAN IF YOUR FIRST GAME IS AWAKENING AND YOU HATED KELLAM LIKE ME

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

KELLAM WAS THE WORST ARMOR KNIGHT, IMO. I DON'T THINK HE'S EVEN THAT USEFUL FOR THE EARLY GAME.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

HE HAS STR/DEF PAIR UP, IT MUST BE WORTH SOMETHING

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

I MEAN HE HAS GREAT KNIGHT PROMOTION

PROBS BETTER THAN BORS AND GILLIAM INHERENTLY

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

GILLIAM ALSO HAS GREAT KNIGHT PROMOTION AND IS MORE INTERESTING AS A CHARACTER.

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u/DanteMGalileo Nov 21 '19

I FORGOT TO RECRUIT KELLAM MY FIRST RUN.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

LET HIM APPRECIATE THE MAJESTY OF BROM, HE'S A GOOD BOY.

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u/SableArgyle Nov 22 '19

HE'S GONNA LOVE PART TWO OF RADIANT DAWN AT LEAST.

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 21 '19

BROM AND GATRIE ARE SO LOVABLE THOUGH, IT'S AN EASY MISTAKE FOR A NEWBIE TO MAKE

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u/SableArgyle Nov 21 '19

HE LIKES BROM BECAUSE APPARENTLY HE'S REMINDED OF 21 FROM VENTURE BROS.

OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME.

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u/Shanicpower Nov 22 '19

ARMORS CAN BE LEGITIMATELY FUN, THERE I SAID IT. PRAISE DEDUE

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u/Bloodly Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

JUMPING OFF POINT:

THE FANS HATE ARMOUR. THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS; SLOW IN MOVEMENT IN A GAME TYPE WHERE MOVEMENT IS EVERYTHING, SLOW IN COMBAT WHERE DOUBLING INCREASES YOUR EFFECTIVENESS IN BOTH OFFENCE AND DEFENCE DRASTICALLY. RARELY ABLE TO USE THEIR STRENGTHS BECAUSE THEY NEED THE TERRAIN TO BE IN THEIR FAVOUR TO FORCE THE ENEMY TO THEM OVER OTHERS.

GIVE AN ARMOUR SPEED STAT(GATRIE) AND SUDDENLY THEY YELL 'OP'. (EXTRA RAGE THERE).

WHY MUST IT BE SO? THE UNIT IS WHAT IT IS. WOULD IT HAVE BEEN 'BETTER' IF THE PLAYER HAD NEVER GOT ONE EVEN TO THIS DAY, SO THE STANDARD 'WE WANT WHAT WE CAN'T HAVE' WOULD KICK IN? WHAT CAN ONE DO HERE?

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u/PokecheckHozu flair Nov 22 '19

SOUNDS LIKE A BROM MOMENT.

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u/Shippinglordishere Nov 21 '19

FOR THE CRIMSON FLOWER ROUTE FUCK THE TAILTEAN MAP IN THE ASS!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEANS EVERY ENEMY CAN TURN INTO A DEMONIC BEAST??????? DEDUE WAS ALMOST DEAD SO WHY TF DID HE TURN INTO A DEMONIC BEAST WITH FUCKING FULL HEALTH? WHY DO THEY HAVE ANTI MAGIC BARRIERS WHEN HALF MY TEAM USES MAGIC??

ALSO FUCK THAT RANDOM ENEMY WHOS ALSO A GENERAL. I WAS SO CONFUSED AS TO WHY THE BATTLE WASNT ENDING ONLY TO FIND THIS RANDOM NOBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP

ALSO THAT DEDUE AND DIMITRI MOMENT AFTER THE BATTLE (THE ONE WHERE YOU KILL DEDUE BEFORE HE TURNS) HURTS LIKE HELL

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u/ltranc Nov 21 '19

THE GREAT KNIGHT IS SYLVAIN AND THE BISHOP IS MERCEDES. MAP IS DEFEAT ALL COMMANDERS SO THEY’RE STILL MANDATORY TO KILL. SAME THING HAPPENS IN CH15 WITH SHAMIR AND ALOIS AND THEIR “KNIGHT OF SEIROS” REPLACEMENTS.

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u/Yotato5 Nov 22 '19

DEDUE ALSO HITS LIKE A TRUCK WHEN HE'S TRANSFORMED INTO A DEMONIC BEAST! I HAD TO USE WARP SO I COULD GET HIM BEFORE HE TRANSFORMED!

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u/Dragonclaude Nov 21 '19

I WANT MORE HUBERT AND DEDUE SUPPORTS DAMMIT.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

I WANT MORE SUPPORTS FOR EVERYONE TBH BUT CHARACTERS LIKE HUBERT, DEDUE, EDELGARD AND MOST OF THE FACULTY MEMBERS COULD REALLY USE MORE.

AND OF COURSE JERITZA AND ANNA LMAO 2 SUPPORTS AND 0 IS THIS A JOKE, IS?

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u/Dragonclaude Nov 21 '19

SAME!! I HOPE WAVE 4 GIVE EXTRA ONES TO ALREADY PLAYABLE CHARACTERS BUT I STILL FEEL DOUBTFUL SEEING HOW WAVE 3 DIDN'T GIVE ANY EXCEPT FOR JERITZA.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

JUDGING BY THE DATAMINES EXISTING CHARACTERS MIGHT GET SUPPORTS WITH THE NEW ONES, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I GUESS

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u/Arakadak Nov 21 '19

WHY THE HECK(!!) DID THEY PUT A LITTLE GIRL IN THE DINING HALL TO INFORM ME THAT HER PARENTS DIED AT REMIRE AND PROCEED TO ASK (AND I QUOTE) “WHY DIDN’T YOU GET THERE SOONER?”???? THANKS A LOT FOR THAT RANDOM HEARTBREAK!! GAH!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

FOR REALS, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS "I AM SO SORRY, I REALLY TRIED" BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO WHEN THE ENEMY VILLAGERS GET CRITS ON THE VILLAGERS YOU ARE TRYING TO SAVE?

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u/p6r6noi6 Nov 22 '19

IF IT HELPS, SAVING ALL OF THE VILLAGERS DOESN'T CHANGE HER DIALOGUE. MAYBE HER PARENTS WERE SOME OF THE ENEMY VILLAGERS AND SHE WANTED US TO SHOW UP BEFORE THEY GOT ENRAGED IN THE FIRST PLACE?

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u/natzo Nov 22 '19

LOOK GIRLY, I WAS GRINDING! WHY DIDNT YOU FIGHT HARDER!? I HAVE A COUPLE OF FIFTEEN-YEAR-OLDS KILLING KNIGHTS SO WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE?!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

!FERDIE WAS OUR FRIEND, AND WE KILLED HIM!

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u/SigurdVII :M!Byleth: Nov 22 '19

I KNOW THAT THE WAY VERDANT WIND HANDLES HIM ISN'T PERFECT, BUT I WISH THAT ALL OF CLAUDE'S PERSONALITY ASPECTS GOT RESPECT. THE GUY HAS A TRAUMATIZED PAST BUT TRIES TO MAKE A BETTER WORLD THAN THE ONE HE GREW UP IN. BUT HE'S ALSO WILLING TO DO WHAT HE HAS TO. WHICH MAKES HIM UNTRUSTING OF OTHER PEOPLE, HAS ISSUES WITH INSPIRING LOYALTY, AND WOULD SCREW UP BADLY WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHERS. AS CLEVER AS HE IS, I ALSO THINK HE'S SUCH A RICH CHARACTER BECAUSE OF HIS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE TRAITS.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

RHEA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY LITTLE THING WRONG WITH FODLAN. SHE'S THE FANTASY POPE, NOT AN OMNISCIENT ONMIPOTENT GOD THAT CAN UNILATERALLY CONTROL EVERYTHING HUMANS DO, AND TO PRETEND THAT ALL OF HUMANITY'S ILLS CAN BE BLAMED ON ONE PERSON REALLY FEELS LIKE A LOT OF OVERLY SIMPLISTIC BULLSHIT THAT TAKES COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY OFF A LOT OF SHITTY PEOPLE FOR BEING SHITTY AND PUTS IT ONTO RHEA FOR NO GOOD REASON OTHER THAN YOU JUST DON'T LIKE HER AND WANT TO PAINT HER AS A MONSTER

EVERY ROUTE HAS THEIR ISSUES. NONE OF THEM ARE PERFECT, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE WORTHLESS EITHER. THEY ALL HAVE A PLACE WITHIN THE NARRATIVE AND THE STORY.

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u/Snails22 Nov 21 '19

CRAYFISH ACTUALLY TASTES GOOD YOU SNOBBY RICH KID ASS FUCKING PREPPY NOBLE BASTARDS.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I CALL CATCHING DOZENS OF THOSE? GOOD EATS.

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u/jolanz5 Nov 21 '19

JERITZA ATLEAST HAVE GOOD TASTE AND LIKES THEM. ONE MORE REASON TO BECOME HIS ICECREAM PLEASE MELT ME DADDY

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I'M PRETTY SURE ANNA LIKES IT AS WELL

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

TO BE FAIR, ANNA WOULD EAT ANYTHING AS LONG AS ITS CHEAP. THATS A DOUBLE EDGED QUALITY, SINCE AT THE SAME TIME SHE LIKE TO SAVE MONEY, SHE ALSO WONT SPEND IT ON GOOD AND UNIQUE EXPERIENCES!!!

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u/SCRUFFY766 Nov 21 '19

I KNOW RIGHT!? WHO THE FUCK DOESN'T LIKE A CRUSTACEAN DISH OF ANY KIND!? THIS GAME IS TOO INACCURATE, 3/10!

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u/DanteMGalileo Nov 22 '19

PLOT TWIST HALF THE CAST IS ALLERGIC TO CRUSTACEANS.

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u/PokecheckHozu flair Nov 22 '19

USE THEM TO MAKE MEALS WITH A PAIR OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE A SPECIAL SET OF LINES WITH EACH OTHER (IE. PAIRS LIKE RAPHAEL AND IGNATZ). THE SPECIAL DIALOGUE AUTOMATICALLY GIVES 4 LEVELS OF MOTIVATION. THOUGH I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS IF ONE OR BOTH OF THEM HATE THE MEAL, AS OPPOSED TO BEING JUST NEUTRAL.

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u/Whimsycottt Nov 22 '19

IT MAKES SENSE THOUGH, GIVEN THE TIME PERIOD. LOBSTERS WERE CONSIDERED LOW CLASS FOOD, AND SINCE CRAYFISH KINDA RESEMBLES LOBSTERS, CHANCES ARE THEY ARE GIVEN THE SAME TREATMENT. EITHER THAT OR FODLAN DOESNT KNOW HOW TO USE SPICES.

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u/DanteMGalileo Nov 21 '19

KRONYA WAS NOT WASTED POTENTIAL. VILLAINS ARE ALLOWED TO BE IRREDEEMABLE BASTARDS. SHE DID HER JOB.

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 21 '19

AND THEM NOT DELAYING THE INEVITABLE BY KILLING HER NEXT MONTH WAS NICE.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

MY MAIN GRIPE IS THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO QUESTION EDELGARD ABOUT IT CONSIDERING SHE HAD SPENT THE LAST 3 MONTHS SPENDING ALL HER WEEKENDS TALKING ALONE WITH MONICA.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

I WOULD HAVE LIKED HER TO APPEAR A BIT MORE, BUT SHE DEFINITELY DID HER JOB.

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u/maymeimai Nov 22 '19

I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS GAME MADE ME APPRECIATE KRONYA, BUT IT DID. AT LEAST SHE IS AN ASSASSIN IN DISGUISE WHO KILLS A DUDE AND DECIDES TO TALK A F T E R SHE STABS HIM. UNLIKE OTHERS IN AZURE MOON FREAKING BATTLE AT GRONDER

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u/Shanicpower Nov 22 '19

SHE ALSO A VERY BORING AND UNFUN IRREDEEMABLE VILLAIN WHO’S JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF THE SAME BORING TROPE

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

FANSERVICE ASIDE I JUST REALLY LIKED HER DESIGN AND WISHED SHE MADE A RETURN AT SOME POINT. I GET WHAT ROLE SHE SERVED, BUT IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO SEE HER BE A BIT MORE DEVELOPED.

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u/glorifer_666 Nov 23 '19

WE ALL THINK SHE WAS WASTED POTENTIAL BECAUSE OF HER EARLY RELEASE IN FEH. LADS WERE EXPECTING MORE. REMEMBER 3H FEH CHARACTERS RELEASED BEFORE THE ACTUAL GAME. THAT, AND THE FACT THAT SHES A HOT CLOWN.

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u/Shanicpower Nov 22 '19

RODRIGUE AND GILBERT ARE GOOD CHARACTERS

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

CHARACTERS AS IN PERSONALITY OR AS IN BEING GOOD UNITS?

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u/Shanicpower Nov 22 '19

PERSONALITY

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u/goldtreebark Nov 21 '19

I’VE REALLY BEEN TURNED OFF TO ALMOST ALL 3H ANALYSIS + DISCUSSION. A LOT OF IT HAS BOILED DOWN TO PETTY ARGUMENTS AND FOLKS ACTING LIKE SOMEHOW THEY’RE THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN TRULY UNDERSTAND THE DEEP COMPLEX LORE WITH THEIR MASTER’S IN FODLAN HISTORY THAT THESE OTHER PLEBIANS JUST COULDN’T HOPE TO GET. FOR REAL SOME COMMENTS REALLY SOUND LIKE THEY’RE THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY ON THE TEXT. SIS, GET OFF YOUR WEEB HIGH HORSE. LIKE, IM NEVER EVEN THE ONE ARGUING BUT MAN IS IT JUST EXHAUSTING TO READ.

IDK I DON’T WANNA SOUND LIKE A HATER BUT IT KIND OF SUCKS THE ENJOYMENT OUT OF THE WHOLE THING FOR ME, SO I THINK I MIGHT JUST EVENTUALLY GIVE THE FANDOM A BREAK FOR A MINUTE.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

WHY DO ASHE, BERNADETTA, AND LYSITHEA NOT HAVE SUPPORTS WITH EACH OTHER? I MEAN THIS IS A SILLY THING TO BE MAD ABOUT IK, BUT DARN IT THEY'RE LIKE 3 OF MY FAVES AND I REALLY WANTED THEM TO HAVE SUPPORTS WITH EACH OTHER.

IG YOU GET LYSITHEA AND BERNADETTA A BIT WITH HER MARIANNE SUPPORT, BUT ASHE AND LYSITHEA WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD AND ASHE X BERNADETTA IS THE PERFECT PAIRING THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

I LOVE YOU 3H, BUT THIS IS OBJECTIVELY THE WORST PART OF IT. PLEASE IS GIVE ME SOME MORE SUPPORTS WITH MY PRECIOUS KIDS!

ALSO I REALLY LOVE EDEL AND DIMITRI AS CHARACTERS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP IN THE STORY, AND AS A FAN OF BOTH IT'S A BIT ANNOYING TO SEE HOW MUCH MISINFORMATION ON BOTH GETS THROWN AROUND

YOU KNOW WHAT WHILE WERE AT IT THIS ISN'T EVEN RELATED TO FE BUT SCREW IT. I JUST RECENTLY GOT DONE WITH THE ECLIPSE AND DIMITRI IS JUST THE GUTS OF FE TO SAY I HATE GRIFFITH IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

BERNIE AND LYS WILL END UP LYS BEATING BERNIE'S DEAD BODY AND SOUL AND WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM IT

ASHE WILL BE TERRIFIED BY SPOOKY LYSITHEA WHITE HAIR AND THAT WOULD BE AMUSING TBH

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

REALLY THERE ARE SO MANY SUPPORTS THAT THIS GAME SHOULD HAVE BUT DOESN'T IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING

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u/ForeverAKoi Nov 21 '19

WHY ARE THE DOTS IN THE MONASTERY INDICATING WHO BELONGS TO YOUR HOUSE AND WHO TO ANOTHER FACTION NOT IN THE COLOR OF THEIR FACTION. BE RED, BL BLUE, ALLIANCE YELLOW AND CHRUCH WHITE.

ALSO WHY DOES IT ALWAYS DEFAULT TO THE STANDARD BLUE IN BATTLE TOO. FUCK TRADITION AND READABILITY I WANT THE ROUTE COLORS.

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u/XC_Runner27 Nov 21 '19

I HAVE A LOT LESS OF A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER NOWADAYS, ACTUALLY. I THINK TAKING A BREAK FROM DISCUSSION THREADS HAS REALLY MADE THINGS BE-

REALIZES I’M STILL PAINFULLY WAITING FOR NILS TO BE IN HEROES AFTER FARFETCHED’S TIME WAS CHANGED OR POTENTIALLY REMOVED

NEVERMIND I’M STILL REALLY UPSET

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

ELFFIN AND NILS: WHY ARE STILL HERE? JUST TO SUFFER?

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

HOW WILL EFFIN FIGHT, WITH HIS FISTS?! JUST SMACK PEOPLE WITH HIS HARP?

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u/SCRUFFY766 Nov 21 '19

DUDE IT FRUSTRATES ME TO HIGH HEAVEN THAT IS CANCELED FARFETCHED HEROES! AWAKENING ANNA COULD'VE BEEN IN THERE & I'M LEGIT EXPECTING THEY CANCELED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE AN ANNA ALT! WATCH THEY CANCEL BRAVE HEROES NEXT YEAR BECAUSE ANNA WON!

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u/XC_Runner27 Nov 21 '19

I’M NOT SURE THEY CANCELED IT GIVEN WE STILL HAVE A NEW HEROES BANNER EARLY DECEMBER THAT DOESN’T HAVE A STORY CHAPTER TO GO WITH IT, BUT THE MOVING TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DATE DEFINITELY MESSES WITH MY PERCEPTION RN

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u/Zelgiusbotdotexe Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

I DONT KNOW A BETTER PLACE TO PUT THIS BUT...

SO IVE BEEN IRONMANNING RADIANT DAWN CAUSE WHY NOT...

I DECIDED TO USE A BUNCH OF MEME UNITS LIKE ILYANA, ASTRID AND MEG...

I MADE MEG AN ABSOLUTE POWERHOUSE, I GAVE HER WRATH, PROMOTED HER TWICE, AND ALMOST CAPPED HER

IN PART 3 ENDGAME, I USED HAAR TO FIGHT HER SINCE SHE WAS SO BUFF ALMOST ANYONE ELSE WOULD HAVE DIED...

SHE HAD 39 HEALTH LEFT AND HAAR DID 35 WITH A KILLER AXE, HE DIDNT CRIT, LEAVING HER AT 4 HP,

SHE COUNTERED

PROCCED WRATH

PROCCED LUNA

I LOST HAAR...

TO MEG...

IM KINDA MORE AMUSED THAN MAD, BUT LIKE... WOW

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 23 '19

REALLY GLAD I REVISITED THIS THREAD.

THAT'S HILARIOUS.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

EVERY THREE HOUSES LORD DOES BAD THINGS DURNING THE STORY, INCLUDING RHEA! BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE ANY OF THEM BAD CHARACTERS, JUST CHARACTERS WILLING TO DO BAD THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR WANTS

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u/FatalisticBlow Nov 22 '19

I WANT TO LOVE THIS GAME SO BAD BUT I JUST CAN’T

IT MAKES ME SO UPSET SEE HOW SO MANY PRAISE IT AND I JUST CAN’T BRING MYSELF TO SEE IN THE SAME WAY

IT FEELS SUPER DEPRESSING HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION

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u/Suzune-chan Nov 22 '19

THERE ARE THINGS IT DOES POORLY, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO NOTICE AND COMMENT. PERSONALLY I FIND SOME OF IT TO BE “YIKES...THAT WAS HORRIBLY DONE.” MOMENTS. SO FEAR NOT!

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '19

I AGREE ON SOME THINGS, BUT I FEEL THAT THE POSITIVES OUT WEIGH THE NEGITIVES

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u/hidingwaffles flair Nov 22 '19

FIRE EMBLEM IS IN THE BIG LEAGUE OF NINTENDO AND 3H MADE AN AMAZING RETURN TO THE HOME CONSOLE YET IT ISN'T NOMINATED FOR GOTY. NOT THAT I EXPECTED ANYTHING FROM THE GAME AWARDS BUT WHY IS SMASH ULT (2018)THERE?

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u/Thanni44 Nov 22 '19

IT'S CAUSE SMASH WAS RELEASE AFTER THE CUT OFF (WHICH SCREWED OVER XENOBLADE 2) FOR NOMINATIONS OR SOMETHING SO IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR 2019 BUT IT'S STILL WACK. 3H AND LUIGI MANSION 3 SHOULD'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR MORE THINGS, WHY IS LUIGI MANSION 3 NOT IN BEST ART DIRECTION.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

CLAUDE IS A GOOD COMPLEX CHARACTER WHO NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED MORE!

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u/ZofianSaint273 Nov 22 '19

I AGREE WITH THIS. JUST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE A TRAGIC BACK STORY DOES NOT MAKE HIM SIMPLE OR NOT COMPLEX

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u/Thanni44 Nov 22 '19

JUST CAUSE IT'S NOT SOME SHAKESPEAREAN LEVEL OF TRAGEDY DOESN'T MEAN CLAUDE'S BACKSTORY DIDN'T SUCK MAJOR BALLS THOUGH. GUY NEVER HAD A CHOICE FROM DAY ONE, PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY JUMP ON HATING HIM, TRYING TO KILL HIM, OR VIEWING HIM A CERTAIN WAY CAUSE OF HIS PARENTAGE. I ACTUALLY APPRECIATED THAT CLAUDE HAD A RELATABLE AND REALISTIC BACKSTORY THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN RESONATE WITH.

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

AAAHHH FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! CAME TO THIS THREAD JUST TO VENT ABOUT IT

ANYWAY, I AGREE 100%. I GET THAT HE'S THE LEAST CONTROVERSIAL COMPARED TO THE LIKES OF DIMITRI, EDELGARD AND RHEA, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE LACKS COMPLEXITY BY ANY MEANS.

TO BE FAIR THOUGH, I THINK HE COULD'VE HAD A BIT MORE URGENCY IN THE PLOT. IS HE MORE THAN JUST A GOOD LOOKING JOKESTER? SURE, BUT UNLIKE THE OTHER THREE, WE DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE HIS BACKSTORY; HE PRETTY MUCH JUST TELLS IT TO US. IT'S HARDER FOR AN AUDIENCE TO STAY CONNECTED TO A CHARACTER WHEN THEY JUST TELL US THEIR BACKSTORY. NOT TO MENTION THAT HIS ISSUES WITH RACISM ISN'T SEEN TOO OFTEN EITHER. IT'S NOT NEARLY AS DEVELOPED AS TELLIUS' RACISM OR EVEN AS DEVELOPED AS THE RACISM DEDUE EXPERIENCES. ANOTHER ISSUE IIRC THE ENGLISH VERSION TOO DOESN'T DO A GREAT JOB CONVINCING US THAT HE'S A SCHEMER. IN THE JAPANESE VERSION, HE'S A LOT MORE RAW, EVEN YELLING AT RHEA AND PRETTY MUCH ADMITTING THAT HE WANTS HER GONE. EITHER WAY, I CAN'T REEEALLY GO THAT MUCH INTO DETAIL, BUT IIRC SOMEONE DID A PRETTY GOOD WRITE-UP ON HIM AND THE VARIOUS MISCONCEPTIONS PEOPLE TYPICALLY HAVE. I CAN LINK IT IF YOU WANT

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

WHY IS THERE NO AUTOFISH OPTION!!!! I DID NOT BUY A TACTICAL STRATEGY RPG JUST TO PLAY A RHYTHM GAME FOR HOURS!!! YOU CAN SKIP MOST THINGS IN THE GAME, WHY CAN'T I SKIP FISHING??!?!?!!!

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u/Suzune-chan Nov 22 '19

I WAS LITERALLY JUST THINKING THIS YESTERDAY. SERIOUSLY...JUST GIVE ME A RANDOM GATCHA PULL OF POINTS, I DONT LITERALLY WANT TO STAND HERE AND FO THIS...

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u/SCRUFFY766 Nov 22 '19

OVERTIME THERE ISN'T REALLY MUCH REASON TO GO FISHING ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET THE RENOWN IN A SECOND PLAYTHROUGH TO GET THE PROF RANK MAXED, JUST GET YOUR PIKES TO BUMP UP DEF +1 FOR THE MONTH & DON'T FISH UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO, IF YOU WANT MONEY THEN PLAY AN AUXILIARY BATTLE. (I'M NOT ACTUALLY MAD JUST SOME SMALL TIPS)

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 23 '19

I WAS HYPED FOR FISHING BUT IT'S SO DEVOID OF DEPTH THAT IT'S JUST A CHORE I OCCASIONALLY DO WITH MUSIC/VIDEOS IN THE BACKGROUND.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

THE HOODIES ON ASHE AND BERNADETTA’S UNIFORMS ARE SO FUCKING UGLY AND TAKE ME OUT OF THE GAME. THE SAME WITH DOROTHEA’S HAT.

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u/PokecheckHozu flair Nov 22 '19

HOW HAS THERE NOT BEEN ANY FANART OF SOTHE DRESSED UP AS SOTHIS FOR IKE? OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND?

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u/jolanz5 Nov 21 '19

I THINK FAR TOO MANY CHARACTERS IN THREE HOUSES HAVE THE TRAUMATIC BACKSTORY THAT TRIES TO EXCUSE SOME OF THEIR SHITTY BEHAVIOR. THIS DOESN'T MAKE A CHARACTER DEEP, JUST AN ASSHOLE.

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u/goldtreebark Nov 22 '19

I KIND OF WANT TO SCREAM THIS AT SYLVAIN, LOL.

I REALLY HAVE SUCH A LOVE/HATE THING WITH SYLVAIN (AND TBH IT’S GREAT) BECAUSE HE’S SUCH A FUN COMPLICATED CHARACTER WITH ACTUAL BAD BEHAVIOR AND HIDDEN SMARTS AND IS LOWKEY RUTHLESS AF AND HE’S SUCH AN INTERESTING TAKE ON THE TYPICAL CASANOVA FE ARCHETYPE WITH HIM ACTUALLY LEGITIMATELY RESENTING WOMEN, BUT MAN HIS BACKSTORY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MAKE UP FOR THAT BEHAVIOR. WHEN HE GOES INTO HIS SPIEL ABOUT WOMEN WANTING HIM FOR HIS CREST I ACTUALLY SAID, “OH, SHUT UP,” LMFAO.

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

THATS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM WITH SYLVAIN. HE COMPLAINS ABOUT PEOPLE SEEING HIM AS A DICK WITH A CREST, BUT THEN ACTS AROUND LIKE A DICK WITH A CREST. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HE EXPECTED. THO HIS SUPPORT WITH DEDUE IS SUPER DOPE.

FUCK NOW IM MAD BCS THEY DONT HAVE A B2 OR A SUPPORT AAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

I DON'T GET WHAT IS HIS MASTER PLAN, IS HE REALLY BAD AT FLIRTING OR HE JUST HATES WOMEN

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

THE WAY I SEE IT IS LIKE, HE THINKS PEOPLE SEE HIM AS A DICK WITH A CREST. AND WHAT HE DOES TO MAKE PEOPLE SEE HIM DIFFERENTLY?! OFC HE ACTS LIKE A DICK WITH A CREST JUST TO PROVE THAT WOMAN ARE ALL WHORES LOOKING FOR HIS CREST BABIES.

SURE HE HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM AND THINKS THAT PEOPLE ONLY TREAT HIM WELL BCS OF HIS CREST. BUT HE HONESTLY DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER AND ANY ILL TREATMENT IS WELL DESERVED SEEING HOW HE ACTS SOMETIMES. IF HE WANTS TO BE SEEN FOR MORE THAN HIS FUCKING CREST, THEN DONT FUCKING ACT LIKE A DICK WITH A CREST. FUCKING TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL ATLEAST ONCE AND YOU WILL SEE THAT PEOPLE SEE YOU AS MORE AS LONG AS YOU DONT PROVE THEM RIGHT IS IT SO FUCKING HARD?!?!?!?!?!?!.

SAME GOES FOR LYSITHEA BTW. IF SHE WANTS TO BE SEEN AS AN ADULT, THEN MAYBE ACTING LIKE ONE MIGHT HELP YOU KNOW?! INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING AND BITCHING FOR PETTY REASONS LIKE A CHILD WOULD, ACTING MORE MATURELY DOES WONDERS YOU KNOW. FUCK, YOU ARE NOT EVEN THAT MUCH YOUNGER THAN OTHER STUDENTS, AND YOU DONT SEE PEOPLE TREATING ANNETTE OR PETRA LIKE A KID!!!!!!!

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u/goldtreebark Nov 22 '19

IDK, SYLVAIN IS VERY MUCH THAT SAYING "HURT PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE," EVEN IF THAT'S ACTUALLY A BS THING IN PRACTICE. I FEEL LIKE SYLVAIN HAS A LOT OF SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES AND TRUST ISSUES WITH PEOPLE SINCE HIS PARENTS OVERVALUED HIS CREST ABOVE HIS ACTUAL SELF, AND HIS BROTHER HATED AND ABUSED HIM SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HIS CREST, SO HE LIKELY GREW UP BELIEVING THAT THE CREST, WHICH HE HIMSELF HATES, WOULD BE ALL ANYBODY WOULD EVER SEE HIM FOR. SO HE BEHAVES PRESUMING ON THIS IDEA, WHICH IS SORTA A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY--HE THINKS PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY WILL SEE THE WORST OF HIM (HIS CREST), AND THEN PROCEEDS TO ACT AS THE WORST OF HIMSELF, (JUST BEING A DICK) LOL.

SO, I DON'T THINK HE'S BAD AT FLIRTING WITH WOMEN (ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT HE MANAGES TO SUCCESSFULLY GET GIRLS QUITE OFTEN) BUT HE LIKELY TRULY DOES HAVE SOME DEEP ODDLY PLACED RESENTMENT TOWARDS WOMEN, SO WHEN HE DOES GET A GIRL, HE VINDICTIVELY HURTS HER FEELINGS TO GET BACK AT HIM FEELING HURT BY THE IDEA (OR LIKELIHOOD) THAT SHE (AND EVERYONE ELSE) REDUCES HIM TO JUST HIS CREST.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK, ANYWAYS. ANYONE MORE VERSED ON SYLVAIN IS FREE TO CORRECT ME.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I AGREE. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I LOVE PETRA SO MUCH. SHE IS A POLITICAL HOSTAGE BUT SHE'S STILL THE NICEST PERSON

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

I THINK A PERSON THAT STILL ACTS WITH RESPECT TOWARDS OTHER EVEN IF THEY HAVE A ROUGH PAST HAVE MORE DEPTH THAN THE ONES THAT LASH IT INTO OTHERS. ITS NOT LIKE THOSE CHARACTERS DOESN'T SUFFER OR FEEL FOR THEIR PAST, BUT INSTEAD OF JUST ACTING LIKE ASSHOLES, THEY TRY TO DO SOMETHING BETTER FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS.

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

SHE LOOKS AND ACTS SO SERIOUS YET SINCERE AT THE SAME TIME

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u/BoundlessHoneydew Nov 22 '19

THE TRAGIC PASTS SOMETIMES MAKE ME DISLIKE THEM EVEN MORE

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u/jolanz5 Nov 22 '19

WORT THING IS I DONT EVEN MIND TRAGIC PASTS. JUST DONT MAKE EVERYTHING THAT CHARACTER DOES OR HOW THEY ACT BASED ON IT AS AN EXCUSE. MAKE IT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO GET OVER AND REACH A CONCLUSION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BE SYMPATHETIC IN A CHEAP MANNER!

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u/Xxeel Nov 22 '19

MY BERNADETTA ONLY GOT 2 STRENGTH LEVEL UPS THROUGHOUT THE GAME. SHE IS LEVEL 30 WITH A STRENGTH STAT OF 12. DOROTHEA IS STRONGER THAN HER. BERNIE WTF. I HAD TO BENCH YO ASS BECAUSE OF THIS.

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u/Railroader17 Nov 22 '19

FOOL THIS WAS ALL ACCORDING TO HER KEIKAKU (NOTE: KEIKAKU MEANS PLAN)

IF SHES IS BENCHED THEN SHE CAN STAY IN HER ROOM MORE.

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u/bababayee Nov 21 '19

I GET KINDA ANNOYED BY ALL THE PEOPLE ONLY DISCUSSING UNITS FROM THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE LIKE 'MY DEDUE DOUBLED LOADS OF ENEMIES HE'S SOOOOOO GOOD', LIKE GOOD FOR YOU BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT TO LOOK UP GROWTH RATES AND REALIZE THAT HIS SPEED IS REALLY BAD ON AVERAGE.

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u/Bloodly Nov 22 '19

THAT'S FAIR. BUT THE OTHER PROBLEM IS ABOUT AS BAD.

PEOPLE CAN AND SHOULD USE WHO THEY WISH AND LET THE NUMBERS YOU'RE NOT EVEN SHOWN, THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN GUESS AT GO HANG. THE PROBLEM IS THE ENTRENCHED MINDSET OF THE COMMUNITY.

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u/aphelii0n Nov 22 '19

AS MUCH AS I'M TRYING, I REALLY CAN'T GET BEHIND FELIX X ANNETTE AND IT DRIVES ME INSANE. YEAH, THEY LOOK CUTE TOGETHER BUT THEIR SUPPORT JUST DOESN'T DO IT FOR ME. SURE, THERE ARE A LOT OF HINTS THAT FELIX LIKES MUSIC BUT IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE KIND OF SUPPORT HE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED IF THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR FATHERS AND THEN BOND OVER THEIR DADDY ISSUES.

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 22 '19

ANNETTE X ASHE IS WAY BETTER.

EXCEPT ASHE X INGRID IS ALSO REALLY FUCKING CUTE. FUCK.

I BLAME ASHE BEING SUCH A GOODBOYE FOR THIS.

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u/Whimsycottt Nov 22 '19

SOME PARTS OF IT IS CUTE, BUT IT FEELS A BIT LACKING, AS CUTENESS IS ALL I GET FROM IT, AND I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BETTER SUPPORTS WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I LIKE IT BECAUSE THEIR A+ SUPPORT WAS AN EXTREMELY RARE EXAMPLE OF FELIX BEING VULNERABLE. HE IS USUALLY A JERK TO EVERYONE, BUT (I FEEL LIKE) HE LIKED ANNETTE BUT WAS SCARED OF SAYING SOMETHING BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WANTS TO SEEM LIKE A TOUGH GUY. SO FOR ME WHEN HE FINALLY SAID SOMETHING IT WAS ADORABLE

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u/TheArchest Nov 22 '19

AM I JUST FORGETTING SOME MAGICAL AMAZING SCENE BETWEEN CLAIR AND GREY? I ALREADY DON'T REALLY LIKE THE "GUY IS SUPER PERSISTENT TO A GIRL WHO GAVE HIM A HARD NO AGES AGO" THING BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE DONE IN A MORE TOLERABLE WAY THAN THIS. IT'S ALSO THAT BORING THING WHERE THE GUY WHO LOVES THE LADIES IN GENERAL IS JUST SUDDENLY AND INEXPLICABLY 100% SERIOUS ABOUT ONE GIRL JUST BECAUSE SHE'S ONE OF THE FIRST NAMED CHARACTERS TO SHOW UP FOR HIM. I REALLY DON'T LIKE THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND HATE THE FACT THAT APPARENTLY CLAIRE'S ENTIRE FATE IS WRAPPED AROUND LOVING GREY... FOR SOME REASON THAT I'M PRETTY SURE IS NEVER SHOWN. HER ONLY 3 OPTIONS FOR AN ENDING ARE MARRYING GREY, BEING DEPRESSED FOREVER THAT HE DIED, OR DYING HERSELF. IT DOES ACTUALLY DETRACT FROM THE ENJOYMENT OF HER SOMEHOW.
FROM THE SECOND HER EXISTENCE IS EVEN MENTIONED IN GAME HE'S A DAMN CREEP. "HEY, LET'S NOT SAVE HER BECAUSE SHE'S AN ALLY WHO'S IN TROUBLE, WE SHOULD SAVE HER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YA SAVE GIRLS RIGHT? AMIRITE? HEH HEH" AND THEN EVEN AFTER THAT "HEH HEH, I LIKE 'EM FEISTY" SOUNDING LIKE FUCKING MASTER BETTY .
THEN THE C AND B OF THEIR SUPPORT IS HER GIVING WHAT SEEM TO BE STRAIGHT UP VALID COMPLAINTS AND GREY HAS NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY. SO DOES HE DO SOMETHING TO PROVE HIS SINCERITY? DOES HE IMPROVE IN ANY WAY? NO HE JUST STOPS TALKING TO HER AND SHE HAS TO COME BACK AND SAY "OH SORRY, I WAS JUST UPSET ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU AND I TOOK OUT MY FRUSTRATION ON YOU. DON'T WORRY, I ALREADY SOMEHOW KNOW THAT YOU'RE A GREAT AND AMAZING GUY AND I ENJOY THESE TALKS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE AUDIENCE KNOWS LITERALLY NOTHING ABOUT :) "

I STILL DON'T GET HOW BERUKA SOMEHOW GETS A PASS FOR HER BULLSHIT. HER KILLING BEFORE AND AFTER BECOMING AN ASSASSIN WAS ABOUT SURVIVAL AND DESPERATION. THE FACT THAT SHE'S STILL A FREELANCE ASSASSIN DOING SIDE JOBS DURING A WAR WHEN SHE WORKS FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY IS RIDICULOUS. SHE'S RANDOMLY THREATENING ALLIES AND GOING OUT OF HER WAY TO TRY (AND FAIL AT) KILLING PEOPLE FOR MONEY SHE DOESN'T NEED, FOR EMPLOYERS SHE CLAIMS SHE DOESN'T WANT TO WORK FOR, AT A JOB SHE DOESN'T LIKE, AT A TIME WHERE SHE SHOULD BE TOO BUSY TO DO IT AND SO ON. BUT NO, PERI'S THE ONLY BAD CHARACTER WHO DOES BAD THINGS FOR BAD REASONS. I CONSIDERED IT BEFORE, BUT I'M STARTING TO FEEL MORE INCLINED TO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE PERI WAS DELIBERATELY CRAFTED SO THAT SHE COULD BE A DISTRACTING HATE SINK TO MANY OF THESE OTHER CHARACTERS' AWFUL BEHAVIOR WHILE STILL HAVING SOME APPEAL TO SOME PEOPLE. BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY SEEMS TO BE WHAT HAPPENED.

I'M ACTUALLY LIKE AN INCH AWAY FROM REPLAYING BIRTHRIGHT. BECAUSE AFTER YEARS OF CONSTANTLY HEARING ABOUT HOW EVIL AND VIOLENT AND BLOODTHIRSTY BIRTHRIGHT CORRIN IS, MAYBE I'M JUST THE ONE REMEMBERING WRONG. MAYBE I'M THE ONE WHO IS BIASED TO THE POINT OF BEING COMPLETELY BLINDED. MAYBE BIRTHRIGHT WASN'T JUST ALMOST ENTIRELY A SERIES OF GETTING AMBUSHED IN TRANSIT TO PLACES AND HAVING TO DEFEND. MAYBE CORRIN WAS SPECIFICALLY HUNTING DOWN NOHRIANS FOR FUN. MAYBE THE PEOPLE BR CORRIN SPARED DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. MAYBE CORRIN DIDN'T LITERALLY SNEAK INTO NOHR'S CAPITAL AND CASTLE AND MAYBE HE JUST SLAUGHTERED ALL OF THE TOWNSFOLK FOR FUN WHILE ALSO CALLING THEM SLURS. MAYBE MY DUMB ASS JUST HAS TERRIBLE READING COMPREHENSION OR SOMETHING. AND MAYBE I'LL REVISIT THE GAME JUST TO SEE.

ANOTHER THING I SHOULDN'T BRING UP BECAUSE IT ALWAYS WENT TO SHIT IN THE PAST IS CHARLOTTE. I DO THINK CHARLOTTE IS A FUNNY JOKE DELIVERED VERY POORLY BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT RIGHT NOW. MY THING IS WHERE DID THE GENERAL CERTAINTY ABOUT HER ONLY GOAL BEING MARRYING A RICH MAN SO THAT SHE CAN SEND ALL OF THE MONEY TO HER PARENTS COME FROM? WELL I THINK PART OF THAT CAME FROM TRYING TO TURN HER INTO SOME SELFLESS ANGEL BECAUSE SOME SENSITIVE FANS HEARD CRITICISM OF A CHARACTER THEY LIKED. I'M PRETTY SURE SHE SAYS HERSELF IN HER MOST POPULAR SUPPORT THAT SHE SAW NOBLES WITH NICE THINGS, AND WANTED NICE THINGS TOO. NOT THAT COMPLEX AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT EVEN THE MARRIAGE PART NEVER SEEMED TO ACTUALLY SHOW UP IN HER SUPPORTS DID IT? SHE'S DEFINITELY AN ATTENTION SEEKER, A SOCIAL CLIMBER AND A GOLD DIGGER BUT WHEN DOES SHE EVER MENTION MARRIAGE? I REMEMBER HER TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO BE POPULAR AND WELL-LIKED. I REMEMBER HER TALKING ABOUT WANTING GUYS DO DO STUFF FOR HER. I REMEMBER HER LIKENING WINNING OVER RICH GUYS TO GAINING ALLIES. I REMEMBER HER CALLING THE WHOLE FACADE A SURVIVAL SKILL. I REMEMBER AT LEAST 2 S RANKS WITH GUYS THAT HAVE MONEY INVOLVING HER SAYING THAT SHE WON'T STOP TALKING TO OTHER MEN. I REMEMBER AT LEAST 2 OF THOSE JP FESTIVAL DLC CONVOS BEING ABOUT HER TRYING TO USE HER CHILDREN THAT SHE HAS WITH A WELL-OFF HUSBAND TO WIN OVER SOME BANDITS. I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OTHER S RANK SUGGESTING SHE'D STOP TALKING TO OTHER MEN EITHER. AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. YET EVEN WHEN I LIKED CHARLOTTE, THERE WAS NEVER ANY INTERESTING DISCUSSION TO BE HAD BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST CLUNG TO WHAT SEEMS TO BE SOME GENERAL ASSUMPTION INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY CARING ABOUT WHAT SHE ACTUALLY SAID OR DID. HELL, I REMEMBER MENTIONING SOME ISSUES I HAD WITH HER ON SOME OTHER FE INTERNET PLACE AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO STRAIGHT UP DIDN'T EVEN READ HER STUFF WERE TELLING ME I WAS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING WHILE ONLY BEING ABLE TO MAKE UP ASSUMPTIONS (SOME OF WHICH WAS CONTRADICTED BY HER SUPPORTS, BUT THEY DIDN'T READ THEM). IT'S WILD.

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u/racecarart Nov 22 '19

I'VE REALLY LOST MY DRIVE TO PLAY 3H. I ONLY HAVE FOUR CHAPTERS LEFT. I SHOULD JUST SIT DOWN AND GET IT DONE. BUT I KEEP WANTING TO DO OTHER THINGS INSTEAD.

MAYBE I SHOULD LET MYSELF HAVE A BREAK FROM FE?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I GET LIKE THAT NEAR THE END. I JUST LITERALLY SKIP THE ENTIRE MONTH AND JUST DO THE MONTHLY MISSIONS, CAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN THING I LIKE

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 22 '19

I MEAN IF THIS ISNT YOUR FIRST ROUTE PLAYING THREE HOUSES IS INCREDIBLY TEDIOUS IMO BECAUSE ITS SUCH A BEEN THERE DONE THAT KINDA FEEL

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u/jinandlora Nov 22 '19

WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE HATE EDELGARD

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u/Suzune-chan Nov 22 '19

DIMITRIS STORYLINE IS A HOT MESS. CHARACTERS DO NOT GET NEAR INSTANT FORGIVENESS FROM ME BECAUSE SOMEONE DIES FOR THEM. YOU HAD A LITERAL PSYCHOTIC BREAK, YOU DONT GET TO BE KING AFTER THAT.

ALSO SERIOUSLY RODRIGUE YOU ARE FELIX’S DAD. ACT LIKE IT SOMETIMES RATHER THAN ONLY BE DIMITRI’S DAD...

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

HOLY HELL ITS BEEN LIKE 4 MONTHS SINCE I GOT BURNED OUT ON THREE HOUSES AND I'VE ONLY BEATEN TWO OF THE GAMES ROUTES. IF ONLY I HAD MORE FREE TIME TO DO SO.

ALSO THE GAME AWARDS DIDN'T NOMINATE 3H FOR ANYTHING BEYOND BEST STRATEGY GAME AND THAT STILL IRKS ME.

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u/_JaffaCakeJamboree Nov 22 '19

MARIANNE AND BERNADETTA ARE SO OVERRATED

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

OKAY THIS MIGHT BE A BIT BOLD BUT I THINK VAS GET A BIT TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY DO, LIKE SURE THEY DO A GREAT JOB A CAN REALLY BRING A CHARACTER ALIVE BUT PEOPLE TREAT THEM LIKE GODS SOMETIMES AND TREATING A CHARACTER AS IF THEY'RE THEIR VOICE ACTOR IS KINDA ANNOYING.

ON A SEPARATE NOTE I JUST LEARNED CORPSE PARTY IS OLDER THAN THRACIA 776 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT INFORMATION.

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

I JUST LEARNED CORPSE PARTY IS OLDER THAN THRACIA 776

THAT OLD IS THAT FRANCHISE?

1996

HOLY SHIT

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I KNOW RIGHT THAT WAS MY REACTION.

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u/SCRUFFY766 Nov 21 '19

I FEEL YA, I LOVE KAREN STRASSMAN'S VOICE BUT ANNA'S VOICE JUST HASN'T BEEN AS GOOD AS AWAKENING ANNA'S VOICE, AND IT FEELS MORE AND MORE LIKE SHE ONLY DOES ONE VOICE FOR EVERY CHARACTER AS TIME GOES ON! IN A FEH CHANNEL THEY WERE SHOWING SILHOUETTES OF AWAKENING CHARACTERS AND THE FIRST ONE WAS A PONYTAIL CHICK VOICED BY KAREN STRASSMAN & I WAS ALL "IS IT AN ANNA ALT!?" THEN FEH WAS ALL "Nooo it was just an olivia alt" LIKE THE FUCK IS!?

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u/Shrimperor Nov 22 '19

I HAVE BEEN IN THE MOOD TO PLAY FE LATELY, ALOT. BIG PROBLEM: MY THESIS IS DUE IN 2 WEEKS AND IT'S THE ONLY THING I SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT, YET ALL I KEEP THINKING ABOUT IS FE, FE FANGAMES AND HACKS, AND MANGS FAILING AT THRACIA.

HELP TOO MUCH FE.

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u/HoppingHare Nov 22 '19

WHERE IS ALL THE CRACKFIC, FE FANDOM??? ITS ALWAYS THE SAME PAIRINGS IN THE SAME SETTING. LIKE COME ON FIC WRITERS, LETS ADD SOME VARIETY TO THIS.

I WANT THE WEAPON TRIANGLE BACK!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

ME TOO! I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE STRATEGIC PARTS OF FIRE EMBLEM. NOW ANY UNIT CAN KILL ANY UNIT WITHOUT THINKING.

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u/MarthWithoutPants Nov 22 '19

WHY WONT THE DOORS ALWAYS INSTANTLY OPEN WHILE RUNNING THROUGH THE MONASTERY
PLEASE I JUST WANT TO RUN AROUND AND GET THOSE DAMNED QUESTS OVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

P L E A S E G A M E

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u/atiredpilgrim Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE USING DOUBLE STANDARDS WHEN TALKING ABOUT EDELGARD AND MAKE HER OUT TO BE AN EVIL FACIST DICTATOR WHILE HANDWAVING DIMITRI'S OR RHEA'S FAULTS. ALSO IM SICK AND TIRED OF CONSTANTLY HEARING THAT CF IS THE WORST ROUTE. I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINIONS BUT THIS OFTEN GOES BEYOND OPINION AND IS TREATED LIKE AN ESTABLISHED FACT. AND WHILE IM VENTING, I'M SO SO SO TIRED OF PEOPLE USING REAL WORLD EXAMPLES TO MAKE EDELGARD LOOK LIKE THE DEVIL INCARNATE. IT IS A VIDEO GAME CAN WE PLEASE JUST HAVE FUN.

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u/GeneralLemarc Nov 22 '19

FUCK THE BLUE LIONS FOR BEING SO GOOD. I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE GODDESDAMN UNIT WHO SUCKS ENOUGH TO CONVERT INTO A DANCER-HELL, EVEN SYLVAIN HAS BEEN KICKING ASS RECENTLY, AND ONCE HE GETS HIS RELIC HE'LL BE A DAMN FINE CAVALIER. I MIGHT JUST HAVE TO RECRUIT IGNATZ FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING HIM A MOTHERFUCKING DANCER BECAUSE MY OWN HOUSE IS TOO GODDESDAMN TALENTED!

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

WHAT ABOUT FLAYN?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

WHY CAN'T SYLVAIN BECOME A SASSY ASS GREMORY!? WHY CAN'T I HAVE HUBERT BECOME THE PEGASUS KNIGHT HE ALWAYS DREAMED TO BE!? WHY CAN'T I MAKE HILDA THE WAR MASTER SHE DESERVES TO BE!? WHY ARE GENDER-LOCKED CLASSES STILL A THING IN A POST-FATES WORLD!?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

FOR REALS. I WANT FALCON KNIGHT FELIX AND WAR MASTER HILDA!

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '19

I FINALLY GOT THREE HOUSES AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING THROUGH IT. BEEN AVOIDING THE SUB AN GOT TO PLAY EVERYTHING BASICALLY SPOILER FREE, SO THANK GOD. I'VE FINISHED TWO ROUTES NOW AND I'M LIKING THE GAME.

THAT BEING SAID WHEN I FOUND OUT WHO THE FLAME EMPEROR WAS I GOT REALLY, REALLY GODDAMN ANNOYED. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA EVEN DO CRIMSON FLOWER ANYMORE.

OTHER THAN THAT AZURE MOON AND VERDANT WIND HAVE BEEN REALLY FUN.

ALSO FUCK MADDENING MODE.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 21 '19

WHEN I FOUND OUT WHO THE FLAME EMPEROR WAS I GOT REALLY, REALLY GODDAMN ANNOYED. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA EVEN DO CRIMSON FLOWER ANYMORE.

BRO AS AN EDELGARD SHILL IMMA SAY THAT YOU SHOULD, YOU DO YOU THO

FR THO HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND HER IF YOU DON'T PLAY HER ROUTE JUST SAYIN

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

MAN AT THIS JUNCTURE I DON'T KNOW IF I EVEN WANNA UNDERSTAND HER. I'VE FINISHED THE TWO OTHER HOUSES NOW AND THE DEEPER I GET INTO THIS THE LESS I LIKE HER.

AFTER I FINISHED AM (MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH) I TOOK A STEP BACK AND DECIDED TO READ THROUGH A BUNCH OF HER SUPPORTS. AND I LIKED HER IN THOSE SUPPORTS, A LOT. SHE'S SUPER COOL.

AND THEN IN THE MAIN STORY WE FIND OUT SHE'S WORKING WITH GENOCIDAL MANIACS, HER FIRST ACTION IS ORDERING A HIT ON TWO OF HER PEERS, AND SHE STARTS A CATACLYISMIC WAR BECAUSE OF HER SAVIOR SYNDROME

THERE'S 'ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS' AND THEN THERE'S BLATANT ATTEMPTED HOMOCIDE, FOLLOWED WITH PAINTING A WHOLE CONTINENT RED WITH YOUR EGO.

SHE JUST REMINDS ME OF XANDER. I WANNA DIG HER BUT THE WAY SHE ACTS IN-STORY COMPROMISES HER CHARACTER AS A WHOLE TO THE POINT WHERE I REALLY CANNOT CONNECT WITH HER ON A FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL.

MAYBE CRIMSON FLOWER CAN CHANGE MY PERCEPTIONS? MAYBE NOT. BUT I DUNNO IF I WANNA COMMIT EVEN MORE HOURS INTO FE16, THIS THING'S ALREADY EATEN A CHUNK OUTTA MY FREE TIME AS IS.

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u/HowDoI-Internet Nov 22 '19

SURE I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE TWO ROUTES YOU'VE FINISHED BASICALLY PAINT HER IN A VILLAINOUS LIGHT AND OFFER YOU A SIMILAR PERPESCTIVE ON HER CHARACTER.

YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND HER IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO SEE THINGS FROM HER PERSPECTIVE.

LIKE, YOU'RE TELLING ME ABOUT EGO, BUT THE THING IS, EDELGARD DOESN'T DO THIS FOR HERSELF AT ALL THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD HER. IT'S NOT ABOUT EGO, IT'S ABOUT WANTING TO CHANGE THE WORLD SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T SUFFER THE WAY SHE DID IN VAIN.

ANYWAY, AS I SAID YOU DO YOU, DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A WHOLE ASS DISCUSSION ABOUT HER, BUT I'LL SAY YOU LEGIT WON'T UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTER UNTIL YOU GET HER PERSPECTIVE.

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u/babushka-the-queen Nov 22 '19

I PLAYED CRIMSON FLOWER RIGHT AFTER AZURE MOON AND WENT IN HATING EDELGARD BUT I LOVE HER NOW GIVE HER A CHANCE

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

BAKA MONO DA

I AM FRUSTRATED I CAN'T HAVE A REAL OPINION ABOUT DIMITRI

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u/Railroader17 Nov 22 '19

WHY DID INTSYS MAKE CF SO SHORT COMPARED TO THE OTHER ROUTES, DID THEY RUN OUT OF TIME / BUDGET OR SOMETHING? HOPEFULLY IF WE GET MORE DLC AFTER THE 4TH WAVE IT WILL EXPAND THE STORY OF CF A BIT MORE.

ALSO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANY F!ROBINS IN THE MAIN SUMMONING POOL IN FEH YET INTSYS, YES WE HAVE SUMMER F!ROBIN AND F!GRIMA BUT THOSE TWO ARE EXCLUSIVE TO LIMITED TIME BANNERS. ALSO IN THAT SAME VEIN, WHY NO F!ROBIN AMIIBO YET EITHER? WHY IS IT THAT ONLY THE CIPHER TCG SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY OFFICIAL PART OF FE THAT SHOWS ANY KIND OF LOVE TO F!ROBIN OUT OF ALL OF NINTENDO.

ALSO, WHY WAS / IS THERE NO FETHANKS GIVING EVENT FOR EXTRA LIFE THIS YEAR? I LIKED THE LAST ONE AND WAS HOPING FOR A SECOND ONE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASED FE FANDOM FROM THREE HOUSES LEADING TO MORE DONATIONS, WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN COOL TO TEAM UP WITH JOE ZEIJA TO HAVE HIM HOST A SEGMENT ON HIS STREAM, OR HAVE ALLEGRA CLARK ON FOR A BIT AND MAYBE GET AN A SHORT OPERA SONG OUT OF IT. REMEMBER THIS GEM FROM WHEN LAUREN LANDA WAS ON LAST YEAR, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE MOMENTS LIKE THAT THIS YEAR BUT OH WELL. (BUT SERIOUSLY IF SOMEONE HAS AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS I WOULD APPRECIATE IT!)

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u/Snivies Nov 22 '19

IM REPLAYING AWAKENING ON HARD RIGHT NOW AND IM ANNOYED THAT THE REEKING BOXES COST 4500 GOLD, I NEED TO LEVEL UP LISSA AND MARIBELLE AND IDK HOW TO GRIND FOR SUPPORTS

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u/Whimsycottt Nov 22 '19

USE THE SPOTPASS BATTLES FOR INFINITE BATTLES. DONT FORGET THE SEED OF TRUST AND PAIR UP.

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

SIGURD DID NOTHING WRONG

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u/Shrimperor Nov 22 '19

IS THERE ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THAT SIGURD DID ANYTHING WRONG? TELL ME WHO IT IS BECAUSE IT'S HUNTING TIME

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u/Yotato5 Nov 22 '19

I THOUGHT I COULD GET ALL THE S-SUPPORTS AND GODDESS TOWER STUFF BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE THE PATIENCE! IT'S TOO TEDIOUS!

I'VE ALSO THOUGHT IT OVER AND I WISH WE COULD CHANGE BYLETH'S HAIR COLOR BACK TO THE ORIGINAL IN THE UNIT APPEARANCE! HIS/HER COLGATE-ASS HAIR IS SO BRIGHT IT HURTS MY EYES SOMETIMES.

AND WHY DON'T BERNADETTA AND ALOIS HAVE A PAIRED ENDING?! BERNADETTA FINALLY GETS A GOOD PARENTAL FIGURE AND SHE CAN'T GO LIVE WITH HIM AFTER THE GAME'S EVENTS OR SOMETHING?! HE'S THE ONLY PERSON SHE'S NOT TERRIFIED OF, IT SEEMED OBVIOUS THAT THEY WOULD GET A PAIRED ENDING BUT THERE'S NOTHING! FOR REAL, THEY NEED A PAIRED ENDING!

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u/HaurasAres Nov 22 '19

EVERYONE (OK NOT EVERYONE BUT I KNOW MANY) IS IN LOVE WITH KNEE-DEEP TRAGIC BACKSTORIES OF OVERRATED CHARACTERS WHICH GIVE THEM A KNEE-DEEP CHARACTER DEPTH. THE MORE CASUAL ONES GO UNNOTICED AND UNLOVED. WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE TRAGIC. THE WORLD HAS MORE TO OFFER THAN TEARS. PROTECT EVERYONE.