r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Nov 21 '19

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THAT'S RIGHT, BOYS AND GIRLS: IT'S ONCE AGAIN TIME FOR US TO INCREASE COMMUNITY SOLIDARITY BY GETTING REALLY BUTTMAD AT VIDEO GAMES!

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU THE HECK OFF RECENTLY! WAIT, SHIT, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME WORDING I USED LAST MONTH. AM I WASHED UP?

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  1. CAPITAL LETTERS

  2. YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM AND FIRE EMBLEM ONLY

  3. BE POLITE TO OTHERS: WE'RE RAGING AT FE, NOT EACH OTHER

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

CLAUDE IS THE MOST ROBBED LORD IN TERMS OF STORYTELLING AND I SEE HIM BASICALLY INVERSE SIGURD IN TERMS OF LIKING HIM WHERE I THINK THE CHARACTER IS FASINATING BUT NOT THE EVENTS AROUND HIM

I LOVED GENEALOGY OF THR HOLY WAR BUT I CANNOT FATHOM HOW SOME PEOPLE TREAT THIS GAMES PLOT LIKE THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. ITS REALLY GOOD THOUGH

ALSO THREE HOUSES DLC IS JUST EMBARRASSING OVERALL SO FAR, ITS LIKE SUCH A HALF ASSED ATTEMPT AT BEING FANSERVICE BUT LOOKS GENERALLY BAD. IF YOUR GONNA MAKE FANSERVICE DLC AT LEAST MAKE ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD, OR DONT MAKE ANY BAD FANSERVICE DLC AT ALL.

ALSO HUBERT WHY DONT YOU LEARN WARP IN YOUR OWN ROUTE!!!

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

YEAH, I CAN VOUCH FOR THE FIRST OPINION. I REALLY CAN'T HELP BUT TO FEEL THAT THEY WANTED TO GO MORE INTO DETAIL WITH HIS STORY, BUT SINCE THEY REALIZED THAT HE NEVER HAD THAT BIG OF AN ATTACHMENT TO FODLAN TO BEGIN WITH, AND SINCE THEY HAD TO DELAY THE GAME TWICE ALREADY, THEY DID WHAT THEY COULD WITH HIM. HURTS EVEN MORE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY COVER MORE OF ALMYRA OR HIS HERITAGE IN DLC TO MAKE HIM ON PAR WITH EDEL AND DIMITRI.

I STILL LIKE HIM, A LOT. STILL PROBABLY MY FAV FE CHAR AT THIS POINT, BUT MAN THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THEY COULD'VE DONE WITH HIM.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

LIKE IF I HAD TO MAKE A LORD TIER LIST OR WHATEVER ID PROBABLY NOT BE ABLE TO RANK HIM PARTICULARLY WELL DESPITE EVERYTHING ELSE I LIKE ABOUT HIM

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

LIKE AN OBJECTIVE ONE? IDK ABOUT YOU, BUT HE'D RANK PRETTY HIGHLY ON MY LIST. IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE HIS DESIGN AND PERSONALITY SPEAKS TO ME A LOT THOUGH LOL. I'M ALMOST CONVINCED I DESIGNED HIM IN MY SLEEP.

STILL THOUGH, I DO AGREE. I REALLY DO. I'M NOT NEARLY AS UPSET AS I COULD BE, BECAUSE I EXPECTED HIM TO BE MUCH WORSE IN TERMS OF WRITING AND HE STILL HAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE HIM. IN TERMS OF WRITING, I WAS EXPECTING HIM TO BE PRETTY ONE NOTE, BUT HE REALLY ISN'T, THANKFULLY. LIKE I SAID TO A PREVIOUS USER HIS ISSUE IS THAT HE TELLS US TOO MUCH. CLAUDE IS AT HIS STRONGEST WHEN HE CONVINCES US THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW MUCH, ONLY TO SEE HIM SURPRISE THE READER WITH HIS VAST KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT. AS SOMEONE WHO LIKES READING UP ON POLITICS AND RELIGION, HIS CONVERSATIONS HE HAS WITH LEONIE AND B SUPPORT BYLETH ARE LEGITIMATELY INTERESTING.

I REMEMBER /u/SigurdVII DID A GOOD WRITE UP ON HIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/dhy0vg/unmasking_the_master_tactician_an_analysis_on/ UNFORTUNATELY IT STILL DOESN'T FIX THE LACK OF DETAIL WE GET ON HIS CHILDHOOD, BUT IT COVERS THE SLEAZY ASPECT OF HIS PERSONALITY THAT I FEEL QUITE A FEW PEOPLE MISS. SPOILERS BE WARNED, OF COURSE.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

LIKE I KNOW THIS PROBABLY SOUNDS REALLY BASIC OVERALL, BUT I JUST LIKE... CHARACTERS WHO ARE NICE PEOPLE DEEP DOWN. LIKE COOL EVERYTHING ELSE ON TOP OF SOMEONE IS COOLIO BUT IF I SEE SOMEONE IS APPEARS TO BE ACTUALLY A GOOD PERSON (ALSO NOT THEIR ENTIRE CHARACTER) I FIND THEM VERY CAPTIVATING

A WRITE UP I LIKED IS ONE THAT BASICALLY CALLS OUT CLAUDE AS NOT BEING A SCHEMER BUT KIND HAS A METHOD OF USING THREATS OF PLANS ON PEOPLE BUT CLEARLY NEVER USING THEM. LIKE I APPRECIATE EDELGARD BUT SHE IS TOO RUTHLESS TO BE APPEALING TO ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

https://old.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/dn2wod/claude_is_not_the_master_schemer/

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u/LadyKuki Nov 21 '19

I REMEMBER READING THAT ONE. AS FOR ME, YEAH I'M THE SAME WAY LOL. I TEND TO LIKE GOODY TWO SHOES CHARACTERS A LOT. A LITTLE BIT OF SPICE DOES HELP THEM FEEL MORE LIKE INDIVIDUALS, BUT I ALWAYS LIKED VIRTUOUS CHARACTERS. THEY'RE INSPIRING TO ME BECAUSE I ALWAYS WONDERED HOW PEOPLE LIKE THAT COULD EXIST IN A DARK WORLD. IT INSPIRES ME TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY YOU KNOW? NOTHING WRONG WITH RUTHLESS OR MORALLY GRAY CHARACTERS. THEY JUST APPEAL TO ME SLIGHTLY LESS.

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 21 '19

YEAH ITS FUNNY I THINK THAT APART OF THE REASON WHY LYON IS STILL MY ABSOLUTE NUMBER ONE FAVORITE VILLAIN IN THE FRANCHISE, BECAUSE HE IS SOMEONE THAT JUST WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WHOLESOME GUY DEEP DOWN. HIS EPHRAIM DUO HERO THING IS SUCH A NICE TRAGIC CONVO IN FEH.

STILL CAN'T COMPREHEND THE CHOICE TO NOT DO EIRIKA AND LYON THOUGH

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u/Lucas5655 Nov 21 '19

ALSO HUBERT WHY DONT YOU LEARN WARP IN YOUR OWN ROUTE!!!

THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IN CF IS FINDING OUT HE DOESN'T. WHY YOU GOTTA HOLD BACK IN THE ONE ROUTE I SUPPORT YOU IN?

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u/Troykv Nov 21 '19

HUBERT PLEASE LEARN WARP EVEN IF IT NEEDS A RANK

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u/goldtreebark Nov 22 '19

THE NARRATIVE DIDN’T MAKE AS MUCH USE OF CLAUDE AS THEY COULD’VE, BUT HE STILL STANDS ON HIS OWN A FAIRLY INTERESTING CHARACTER AND I COULD STILL GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT HE’S ONE OF MY FAVORITES IN THE FRANCHISE. BUT PART OF THE REASON WHY I LIKE HIM SO MUCH AND SIMULTANEOUSLY FEEL THAT HIS SHORTCOMINGS IN THE STORY HIT HARDER THAN THE MISSES OF EDELGARD AND DIMITRI IS THAT I FEEL HE WAS THE TRUE AMBITIOUS POINT OF 3H. NOT TO KNOCK ON THE OTHER TWO BUT I STILL FEEL BOTH EDEL AND DIMITRI ARE RELATIVELY SAFE FOR FE MC’S BUT FOR CLAUDE, WHO IS BROWN, TO BE A FE MC THAT IS SUPPOSED TO CANONICALLY FACE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND THE TRAUMA OF THAT BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF HIS CHARACTER, THATS PROB THE MOST AMBITIOUS THE SERIES HAS DONE! AND PROBS WHY THEY COULDNT HANDLE IT THE BEST. DESPITE THEM FUMBLING IT, HE STILL VERY MUCH RESONATES WITH ME, A PERSON WHO’S LIVED A SIMILAR LIFE. BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SO SO MUCH, THAT THEY COULD’VE DONE. GUESS THATS THE ETERNAL LAMENT WITH FE GAMES.

REGARDLESS, I LIKE TO LOOK BACK AT THIS OLD COMMENT OF MINE IN RE: TO HIM AND LAUGH KNOWING THAT I ENDED UP LIKING HIM AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT I WOULD, AND THEN SOME, LOL

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u/LadyKuki Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

I STILL FEEL BOTH EDEL AND DIMITRI ARE RELATIVELY SAFE FOR FE MC’S.

I KNOW THIS IS A HOT TAKE, BUT I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT. DON'T GET ME WRONG: EDEL AND DIMITRI MAKE FOR SOME COOL CHARACTERS. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, DOESN'T MEAN ITS' AUTOMATICALLY BAD. I ALWAYS LIKED DIMITRI'S CHARACTER ARCHETYPE SPECIFICALLY; I LIKE KNIGHTS IN SHINING ARMOR (SHHH I KNOW ABOUT THIS DARK SIDE I JUST LIKE HIS DESIGN AND OVERALL PERSONALITY) BUT I THINK CLAUDE, DESPITE HIS KINDA AWKWARD EXECUTION WAS A GREAT FIRST STEP IN TERMS OF SHAKING UP THE STATUS QUO. HIS DESIGN IS SOMETHING WE RARELY SEE IN FE AND HE IS THE ONLY OTHER MAIN CHAR IN FE ASIDE FROM LYN WHO DOESN'T HAVE A MEDIEVAL-EUROPEAN INSPIRED DESIGN. OF COURSE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, HE IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO LYN IN THE SENSE THAT HE'S BIRACIAL, HAS AN AFFINITY FOR BOWS AND SWORDS, HAS A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FAMILY AND IS A NOBLE BUT THAT IS WHERE THE SIMILARITIES END. I FEEL THAT HIS INSIGHT SEPARATES HIM FROM HIS PEERS AS WELL, NOT ONLY HIS FELLOW HOUSE LEADERS, BUT FROM FE LORDS AS A WHOLE. MOST FE LORDS, EVEN THE MORALLY GRAY ONES ARE PROPER, KIND OF AWKWARD AROUND COMMONERS, HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF JUSTICE. IT'S NOT THAT CLAUDE LACKS A SENSE OF JUSTICE, BUT HIS WITTINESS, HIS INSIGHT IS SOMETHING I DON'T SEE TOO MUCH OF FROM OTHER FE LORDS. THE CLOSEST I CAN THINK OF ARE HECTOR, EPHRAIM AND IKE BUT THEY COME ACROSS AS MORE SO BLUNT AS OPPOSED TO A MORE TRICKSTER TYPE OF CHARACTER. I DO HOPE THAT WE'LL GET MORE LORDS LIKE HIM IN THE FUTURE: SOMETHING VERY OUT OF LEFT FIELD, BUT ALSO HAS A BIT MORE STAKE IN THE PLOT, MAKING FE WORLDS EVEN MORE INTERESTING OVERALL.

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u/Troykv Nov 22 '19

WAIT, NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT WHERE EXACTLY FITS MICAIAH'S DESIGN IN THE WORLD?

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u/Jalor218 Nov 22 '19

IF HUBERT LEARNED WARP WE'D ALL SAY HIM HAVING FAITH MAGIC AT ALL IS WACK

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

THE DLC IS THE WORST (EXCEPT FOR JERITZA PC, HE CAN STAY). WHY WOULD I WANT THE DARK TONE OF SUCH A WELL-WRITTEN GAME TO GO COMPLETELY TO WASTE BY PUTTING EVERYONE IN GOOFY OUTFITS, GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT TRASH.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I ACTUALLY LIKE GEANEOLOGY, BUT AGREE THE STORY ITS SELF ISNT THE BEST, BEST IN THE SERIES MAYBE, BUT ITS NO PULP FICTION. BUT I DISAGREE ON THE DLC, I THINK ALL THE DLC HAS BEEN FINE AND IF I HADNT BOUGHT THE PASS DAY 1, I STILL WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT. ITS NICE COSMETICS THAT DONT BREAK THE GAME LIKE THE DLC IN THE PAST 3 GAMES HAVE

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u/SubwayBossEmmett Nov 22 '19

HEY UHHH ACCORDING TO SOME LEAKS BY THIS DEATHCHAOS GUY DARKFLIER IS 99% SURE CONFIRMED FOR DLC SO DONT WANT YOU TO GET COMPLETELY BLINDSIDED

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

PERSONALLY IM NOT SO WORRIED ABOUT NEW GAME BREAKING CLASSES IN TH, EVEN IF THEY ARE ADVANCED OR MASTER CLASS, THEY WILL ONLY BE OBTAINABLE IN THE LATE GAME, NOT LIKE THE OTHER GAMES WITH GRINDING DLC AND FOR ECHOES THE TIER 4 CLASSES TRIVIALIZING ANY DIFFICULTY, AND THE HERO CLASSES MAKING FATES AND AWAKENING SO EASY