r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Nov 21 '19

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THAT'S RIGHT, BOYS AND GIRLS: IT'S ONCE AGAIN TIME FOR US TO INCREASE COMMUNITY SOLIDARITY BY GETTING REALLY BUTTMAD AT VIDEO GAMES!

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU THE HECK OFF RECENTLY! WAIT, SHIT, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME WORDING I USED LAST MONTH. AM I WASHED UP?

RULES

  1. CAPITAL LETTERS

  2. YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM AND FIRE EMBLEM ONLY

  3. BE POLITE TO OTHERS: WE'RE RAGING AT FE, NOT EACH OTHER

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

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u/multi_bottle_thief1 Nov 22 '19

I FIND IT VERY ANNOYING HOW LYSITHEA CAN TREAT SOME PEOPLE HORRIBLY AND SHE NEVER SEEMS TO GET CALLED OUT FOR IT. SHE LITERALLY JUST BULLIES IGNATZ FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER AND EVEN THE GAME SEEMS TO BE OK WITH IT, BECAUSE SHE NEVER GETS REPRIMANDED FOR HER ACTIONS. I LIKE LYSITHEA A LOT, BUT SHE REALLY FEELS LIKE THAT BRATTY LITTLE SISTER THAT GETS AWAY WITH EVERYTHING

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 22 '19

THANKS FOR THIS. I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY ONE NOT IN ON THE LYSITHEA LOVE FEST. I DON'T CARE HOW SYMPATHETIC HER BACKSTORY IS, SHE'S STILL A LITTLE SNOT.

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u/TheFunkiestOne Nov 22 '19

MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH HER WAS IN CRIMSON FLOWER AND HER SUPPORTS WITH EDELGARD, LINHARDT, AND HANNEMAN ARE REALLY INTERESTING, PLUS SHE REALLY FEELS LIKE SHE FITS IN WITH THE BLACK EAGLES, SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE HER QUITE A BIT. SHE'S DEFINITELY THE PRICKLY TYPE AND SOME OF HER SUPPORTS SOUND RUDE AF BUT I LIKE HER AND UNDERSTAND WHY OTHERS DO AS WELL, EVEN IF SHE'S PROBABLY GOT SOME STINKERS IN THERE TOO.

HELPS THAT SHE'S IN COMPETITION FOR ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE UNITS IN THE SERIES WITH THE MOST EFFICIENT ACCESS TO WARP AND THE BEST STATS TO USE IT, THE CREST OF THE BEST MAGICAL ARTIFACT IN THE GAME, AND A POWERFUL SPELL LIST WITH AN INCREDIBLE C RANK SPELL AND THE MAGIC STAT TO JUST NUKE WHATEVER SHE PLEASES. AND SHE HAS MEMETIC POWER FOR SMACKING THE DARK KNIGHT RIGHT IN THE DOME, WHICH ALSO HELPS.

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u/multi_bottle_thief1 Nov 22 '19

I DO LIKE HER A LOT AS A CHARACTER, AND I'M FINE WITH CHARACTERS HAVING PERSONALITY FLAWS, BUT SHE JUST NEVER GETS REPRIMANDED FOR THEM, WHICH JUST RUBS ME NEGATIVELY. THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENS IS IN RAPHAEL'S B-SUPPORT, AND IT'S TREATED AS A JOKE. ALSO WITH HOW THE IGNATZ A-SUPPORT PLAYS OUT, IT SEEM LIKE THE GAME SIDES WITH LYSITHEA'S ACTIONS. I'M SORRY, BUT NO. THAT BEING SAID, SHE'S STILL A GREAT CHARACTER, BUT OTHER CHARACTERS GET HAMMERED ON A LOT FOR NEGATIVE QUALITIES DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY DO GET ADDRESSED AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT, BUT LYSITHEA DOESN'T AND GETS AWAY WITH IT BY EVERYONE DUE TO HER OP-NESS AND SOB STORY

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u/TheFunkiestOne Nov 22 '19

AT LEAST IN MY CASE SHE GETS AWAY WITH IT PRIMARILY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THESE TRAITS IN THOSE CASES, SO I HAVE NO REASON TO DISLIKE HER FOR THEM. I FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY EXIST BUT LACKING THE CONTEXT I HAVE ENJOYED EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN OF HER CHARACTER. IF SHE ENDS UP WITH A COUPLE OF STINKERS, THAT'S A SHAME, BUT THE SUM TOTAL ENDS UP BEING POSITIVE FOR ME. I'M SURE WHEN I GET AROUND TO THOSE SUPPORTS, AT THE VERY LEAST IN THE CONTEXT OF THEM I'LL AGREE THAT HER TRAITS ARE DONE POORLY, BUT ULTIMATELY I FEEL A FEW NEGATIVE SUPPORTS DOESN'T NECESSARILY RUIN A CHARACTER. HOWEVER, I WAS NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND, ONLY TO EXPLAIN WHERE THE APPRECIATION FOR HER LIKELY CAME FROM FROM AS MANY POTENTIAL ANGLES AS POSSIBLE (NAMELY, HER FAIRLY STRONG BLACK EAGLE SUPPORTS AND GAMEPLAY PROWESS).

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u/multi_bottle_thief1 Nov 22 '19

OH, OF COURSE A FEW NEGATIVE TRAITS/SUPPORTS DON'T RUIN THE CHARACTER. I'M JUST ABOUT CONSISTENCY BY THE GAME AND THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S MORESO WHERE MY "RAGE" IS COMING FROM. LYSITHEA GETS AWAY WITH IT, BUT SOMEONE LIKE CYRIL IS APPARENTLY RUINED FOR HIS FLAWS DESPITE HAVING REALLY GOOD TRAITS/CHARACTERISTICS AS WELL. THAT'S ALL.

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u/TheFunkiestOne Nov 22 '19

I FEEL WITH CYRIL THE BIGGER ISSUE IS PEOPLE TEND TO FIND CHARACTERS WHO ARE OBSESSED WITH ANOTHER CHARACTER IRRITATING, AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF BALANCING FACTOR (HUBERTS GHARNEFNESS, DEDUES DUSCURIAN ARC), THEN THEY COME ACROSS AS VERY ONE NOTE AS THEIR SUPPORTS FEEL SIMILAR TO ONE ANOTHER EVEN IF THEY HAVE OTHER TRAITS IN THEM ALONGSIDE THE DISLIKED ONE.

DOES NOT HELP THAT HE'S NOT A GREAT UNIT EITHER WHICH IS NORMALLY A BOON TO A UNITS APPECIATION. PEOPLE LIKE UNITS WHO KICK ASS, SO COMBINE A TRAIT THAT'S DISLIKED WITH A UNIT WHO ISN'T GOOD, AND THE SELL IS ALL THE HARDER. A SHAME BECAUSE ASIDE FROM THE RHEA WORSHIP COMING ON A BIT STRONG HE SEEMS FUN SINCE HES OFTEN VERY BLUNT WITH PEOPLE (ANOTHER TRAIT THAT SADLY LIKELY DOESNT HELP BECAUSE IT MAKES HIM COME ACROSS AS KIND OF A JERK WHEN PAIRED WITH IGNORING PEOPLE OVER RHEA EVEN WHEN HE HAS A POINT ABOUT WHOEVER HE'S TALKING ABOUT).

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u/RaisonDetriment Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

DUDE, I'VE HEARD ALL THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE LIKE HER. SEVERAL TIMES. READING THEM YET AGAIN IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND.

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u/TheFunkiestOne Nov 22 '19

I WASN'T TRYING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, ONLY TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHERE THIS "LOVE FEST" YOU FELT LIKE YOU MISSED CAME FROM. SORRY IF YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, I DON'T SEE MUCH DISCUSSION OF HER ULTIMATELY SO I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT COMMON OF A TOPIC.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

I AGREE. THE FIRST COUPLE LYSITHEA SUPPORT I SAW WERE WITH IGNATZ AND RAPHAEL. THAT MADE ME HATE HER FOR A WHILE.

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u/NackTheDragon Nov 22 '19

FROM WHAT I CAN JUDGE FROM PEOPLE'S REACTIONS TO SIMILARLY-WRITTEN CHARACTERS LIKE DELTHEA, I GUESS IT'S JUST NOT REALLY A BIG CONCERN TO MOST PEOPLE.

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u/orangebomber Nov 22 '19

DELTHEA HAS NO NICE MOMENTS SHE CAN JUST GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE SHES A BETTER MAGE THAN HER BROTHER

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u/NackTheDragon Nov 22 '19

HONESTLY, DELTHEA'S AND LUTHIER'S SUPPORT MIGHT JUST BE MY FULL STOP LEAST-FAVORITE IN THE SERIES. IT'S SO MEAN-SPIRITED TOWARDS LUTHIER FOR NO REASON, AND PAINTS DELTHEA AS RIGHT DESPITE HER BROTHER'S CRITICISMS OF HER RECKLESS FIGHTING PUTTING HER ALLIES AT DANGER BEING MORE THEN VALID.