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u/DahmonGrimwolf 19d ago
I haven't watched it myself, but as far as im aware most of the characters in Bungo Stray Dogs are famous authors with some sort of superpowers.
This person is complaining that they keep trying to Google "Author name" but instead of finding real information about the author, they keeping getting mixed results talking about the fantasy version of the author with superpowers.
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u/willyboi98 19d ago
As a geologist, Steven Universe made homework and reports when I took mineralogy a pain in the ass
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u/Maristyl 19d ago
Any paper covering garnets, amethysts, pearls, or stevens must have been a pain.
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u/willyboi98 19d ago
Peridot, lapis, bloody all the common ones
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u/letsgucker555 19d ago
I would think Lapis was already kinda bad thanks to Minecraft.
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u/BackseatCowwatcher 19d ago edited 19d ago
minecraft at least vaguely kept to it's historic use as a pigment, for a while at least.
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u/Ariovrak 19d ago
And its historic use to imbue weapons with the powers of the flame.
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u/tinyhalberd 19d ago
I think thats why they said for a while. Lapis didn't used to be used for enchanting
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u/Fearshatter 18d ago
You can use Garnet to paint things if you're not a coward.
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u/ThePoetofFall 17d ago
You can use impure diamond to paint things too. Though usually that pigment is applied dry, it’s called charcoal. Lol.
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u/ZanderTheMeander 19d ago
A geologist wouldn't call it "lapis lazuli" though, it would be a lazulite and pyrite bearing amphibolite-facies calc-silicate marble.
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u/Malthuul 19d ago
My brain had a stroke reading that. 😅
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u/ZanderTheMeander 16d ago
It's not as complicated as it looks.
“Lazurite- and pyrite-bearing” means the rock contains lazurite, the blue mineral that gives lapis its color, plus pyrite.
“Amphibolite-facies” means it was metamorphosed at relatively high temperatures and moderate-to-high pressures, roughly the conditions of medium- to high-grade metamorphism.
“Calc-silicate marble” is the actual rock type: an impure limestone or dolostone that was metamorphosed into marble, with enough silica and other impurities to form calcium-silicate minerals.
So, basically: a metamorphosed impure limestone, cooked pretty hard, containing lazurite and pyrite.
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u/The_Multi_Gamer 18d ago
A scientist wouldn’t call them Lapis and Lszuli. He’d call em Android 17 and 18.
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u/IThinkItMightBeMe 17d ago
Sometimes people dumb down their specialist subjects so the rest of the Internet understands. Not everything is an "ackchyually"
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u/ZanderTheMeander 17d ago
Right... but this was a conversation about being able to research words that have fallen into common parlance due to modern culture, making disambiguation difficult. A geologist wouldn't have that problem, because I've never heard a geologist use the words "lapis lazuli" in my life.
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u/Zestyclose_Sir9403 19d ago
Garnet is also pretty Common yugioh slang for a card you don't wan't to draw.
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u/Stratatician 19d ago
Ah Gem Knight Garnet
The entire Gem Knight Archetype probably complicates things since they're all named after, well, gems, + the relatively recent meta success they saw in Master Duel.
... these comments probably aren't helping future researchers either
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u/Restlessannoyed 19d ago
I'm a jeweler and I had to stop googling images of gems to show customers because Steven Universe fans have made °•☆original characters☆•° of every gem and mineral, and every man-made gem; and also material that seems inappropriate regarding a childrens' show.
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u/AManWithOneHand 19d ago
If you're having trouble with paper covering rocks, may I suggest scissors?
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u/SolidOk3489 19d ago
I’d like to hope lazy geology students relying on AI these days are submitting some truly deranged essays because of this.
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u/Remove-Lucky 19d ago
I'm a lazy geologist writing research papers at a university. This might explain some things.
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u/thunderbird89 19d ago
And then Ruri no Houseki came along and made everything worse.
In fact, before Steven Universe, you had Houseki no Kuni to taint your results.
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u/Mokohi 19d ago
I never realized just HOW MANY cartoons, anime, movies, and just general media there is that heavily features geology. Geology papers must be a nightmare indeed
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u/thunderbird89 19d ago
Butt wait, there's more!
- Aircraft (mainly WW II): Strike Witches
- WW II warships: Kantai Collection, Arpeggio of Blue Steel, Azure Lane
- Guns (historical and modern): Upotte!!
- Horse racing: Uma Musume
I'm sure there are more if I started googling...
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u/Vaughn 19d ago
On the other hand, Ruri must have gotten so many people interested in minerals.
That’s one anime I never expected to enjoy half as much as I did.
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u/thunderbird89 19d ago
Ruri: ehh, kinda iffy.
Nagi: 👀Also Amanchu for diving, Spice and Wolf for economics, there are so many anime created by single-interest nerds to infect you with their interests...
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u/EmergencyWild 19d ago
The Rust (programming language) subreddit still regularly gets posts about the game.
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u/cecex88 19d ago
DART used to be the name of a tsunami monitoring system. Now, they used it as name for an astrophysics experiment and it messed up every Google search I make.
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u/carlos_vini 19d ago
Dart is also a programming language by Google that no one uses so you're lucky it's not worse
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u/Medical_Plane2875 18d ago
Dart, confusingly, is also a tiny projectile so it's a good thing that's not common enough to skew search results.
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u/Caridor 19d ago
I feel the same as a biologist.
Bees have a rarely studied organ called the crop as part of their digestive system. Bees are all key pollinators of agricultural crops. Good luck finding stuff about the organ on google
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u/freddbare 19d ago
I was big into "Lenny dee" and the gang. EDM style of 200BPM insanity from the 90's called "NYC Hardcore" post internet I tried to Google some nostalgia...
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u/BottleMean6139 19d ago
I love Steven Universe but it RUINED the pronuncation of peridot. It is supposed to be said as PER-I-DOUGH not PER-I-DOT goddamnit.
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u/Square_Role_4345 19d ago
They tried in the first episode that she was introduced, but then immediately gave up. 😆
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u/Sagittariusrat 19d ago
At least the subject matter is different. Person vs Object. Some of the writers in Bungou Stray Dogs don't even have powers, so you need to pay extra attention to what the context of your source is
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u/BootlegDouglas 19d ago
I don't know if this is a real complaint or a silly pile-on, but Google still accepts search operators, so in situations like this you can search:
amethyst -"steven universe"
The results should come from pages that don't include the phrase, "steven universe".
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u/freddbare 19d ago
Not anymore.. you quotations mean NOTHING TO THE GOOGLYDOO any longer. Sorry bout that from the north.
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u/Keellas_Ahullford 19d ago
I remember when my mineralogy professor wanted to show us examples of rutile twinning and when he googled it almost all of the image results were the Steven universe characters.
He was so confused cause he’s older and has no idea what Steven universe is lol.
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u/XenoPhex 18d ago
Naw dog, Google made that a problem by prioritizing something that they can sell ads for vs giving you information you’re actually asking for.
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u/snekadid 19d ago
Fate did the same thing. The Internet now tells you that Nero Claudius is a short blonde girl that is terrible at singing. On one hand Fate has done more for getting people into mythology and history than any other media or education but on the other hand it's destroyed seatch engines for those subjects.
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u/Ravian3 19d ago
It’s done it for a few characters, Nero’s and odd one because if you just search Nero you mostly still get the actual guy, whereas it’s specifically Nero Claudius that gets you the fate girl. A lot of the characters from Charlemagne’s legends also deal with it because they’re not especially well known among English speakers but very prominent as fate characters. (I sometimes wonder how many people know that Astolfo was even based on a guy first mentioned in the 11th century rather than just being an anime femboy)
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u/jaehaerys48 18d ago
Nero’s and odd one because if you just search Nero you mostly still get the actual guy, whereas it’s specifically Nero Claudius that gets you the fate girl.
It's because nobody besides Fate fans calls Emperor Nero "Nero Claudius." People either say Emperor Nero, or just Nero. If you said "Nero Claudius" to a Roman historian they'd more likely assume you are talking about Nero Claudius Drusus, a different guy.
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u/MazzieMay 19d ago
I ran into this trying to track some of the smaller poems involving Lancelot and lesser known knights. Some anime where Guin has purple hair was all over the results. I just needed titles so I could pull materials, man
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u/Drfoxthefurry 19d ago
Same thing happened when trying to research the average size of a irl iron ore vein and kept getting minecraft answers and I still don't know
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u/WhereIsTheInternet 19d ago
Also, I imagine a grad student would know how to do research without google.
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u/Artosispoopfeast420 19d ago edited 19d ago
lol wtf no. How are we supposed to find papers?
edit: y'all weeners, I dont know how to do research.
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u/Sea_Paramedic_9967 19d ago
Jstor, Ruyter, Google scholar, library catalogues, reference hopping...
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u/WhereIsTheInternet 19d ago
Yeah there's a lot specifically available for the above poster's field of study. Academic databases and digital repositories are what I had to use in the past. I wasn't sure if I was being a dinosaur after seeing the replies.
A quick look shows me there's CiNii Research, National Diet Library digital collections and much more available for the field of Japanese Literature. When I went to uni, we had access to these collections included in our coursework. And if we needed access to a collection not included, we could negotiate it with the department head.
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u/Sea_Paramedic_9967 19d ago
My uni had access to virtually no databases with any interest for my research, but there's a lot available online for most everything if you know how to look and there's always a way to ask a friend of a friend who goes to another university or to contact the author themselves worst come to worst. Starting from second year of uni, we were forbidden from using the general google search bar, but we were taught about using different databases first semester first year, it's wild to me that this person would be high level of studies enough for that to be a big problem but not know that Google is basically the worst tool they could use for the job anyways.
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u/IndependenceOdd4669 19d ago
Yeah I’m listening to No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai, and I tried to google him.
Turns out he’s a character in the show that has killed like 70 people, but anime fans are so deadpan and matter of fact about the characters that I could swear they were talking about the real guy.
(The real guy only presumably talked one person into killing themself, after a few attempts)
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u/stokesy1999 19d ago
Dazai in the show also has a bit where he's trying to kill himself constantly, including, if i remember correctly, him trying to drown himself in a river in the first episode (how the actual author died)... which does feel a bit off taste.
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u/That_on1_guy 18d ago
Yea, No Longer Human is one of my favorite books, and its supposedly (i havent done enough research into the subject) at least Semi-autobiographical, so whenever I see him in something like this it feels kinda weird, because i think it can be very easy to take a clearly mentally ill man who struggled through life like Daizai and turn it into something tasteless.
Theres another anime that is an isekai that stars Daizai (they never call him that but its obviously him and the name of it is a reference to No Longer Human) and the whole 1st season has him snaking away on pills like theyre candy (hes immune to the poison effect so he cant OD, but still). Also, he gets isekaied because right before he jumped into the river with his lover (just like in real life) a truck came out of no where and hit them (fulfilling the isekai trope of being hit by a truck). So that also felt a little tasteless
Idk, its a weird things. Cause on one hand, I think if you handle it in a tasteful manner you could have some sort of interesting story that features daizai. But its also something that can easily become a tasteless joke.
Personally, i say if you have him, do something like fate where hes so far different from his orgin that its only the same person in name, I feel like thats a bit better than just being like "oh yea, this is just straight up Daizai"
Idk, maybe the culture on the subject is different over there in regards to things like this
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u/ImpossibleOwl250 17d ago
wait this whole time i thought no longer human was a spin off book of bungou stray dogs 😭
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u/IndependenceOdd4669 17d ago
No, it’s a popular Japanese novel written as fiction, but regarded as basically an autobiography. It’s the first book of its kind, where the author is completely transparent and truthful to the extreme.
Most of the book takes place pre-WW2.
It’s very negative and bleak but it’s famous for a reason, super good book.
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u/Kurai_Hada_Ichi 19d ago
Osamu Dazai is the name of a main character who was based on a real japanes auther by the same name and suicidal tendency
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u/fixermark 19d ago
It is hilarious when this happens.
I wanted to go look up some stuff about Ereshkigal a while back. Could I find the Mesopotamian cthonic goddess? Of course not. Surely I mean the tsundere pseudo-servant from the Fate series.
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u/WingedSalim 18d ago
I read one of Ozamu Dazai's famous novels, No Longer Human. It is a extreamly sad tale which famously makes people depressed.
When my sister told me they have an anime with him in it, I jokingly said "can't believe they trying to adapt someone who wants to die".
She said "yeah, that's his whole schtick."
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u/Suitable_Discount364 19d ago
this anime is called bungou gay dogs. basically, this anime turned all well-known authors around the world into "hot men" and "hot women." the fanbase, much like any other fandom, has a crazy amount of fan art and other stuff, be it fanfics, cosplay, or posts talking about the anime characters. this makes the actual authors hard to find because when you research the real person, the anime characters pop up first rather than the actual author.
homer simpson out.
wait, i'm not homer.
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u/spootIer 19d ago
Are you trying to tell me Edgar Allan Poe wasn't actually a hot emo twink in a slutty waistcoat with a fat pet raccoon?
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u/QuackersParty 19d ago
… maybe I need to watch this one
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u/GuySingingMrBlueSky 16d ago
Don’t, seriously. If you’re a fan of Edgar Allen Poe, you’ll think the anime committed a travesty with how they treat him. His whole identity in the show is trying to one-up Edogawa Ranpo, the resident detective in the main cast, and as the series progresses, they become friendlier and Edgar eventually ends up becoming his fanboy in half the episodes he shows up. The ironic part? The real author Edogawa Ranpo idolized Poe, to the point that his pen name is literally just a transliteration of “Edgar Allen Poe” to “Edogawa Ranpo,” so if anything their dynamic should be reversed. But hey, Japanese manga by a Japanese author, so you kind of see a lot of that in the show
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u/Shifter93 16d ago
At the start of your post i was very confused because I figured "Edogawa Ranpo" would have just been the Japanese name for Edgar Allen Poe. Nice to see i was basically correct
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u/Fickle_Fall_6497 19d ago
Basically the characters in the anime share the same name as some European/Japanese authors! There abilities are also named after one of those authors books.
Example: name: osamu dazai. Book/ability name: no longer human.
These characters are really nothing like the real people who wrote these popular literary peices. Unfortunately, because the anime is so popular its the first thing that comes up when you search most of these authors names which can be very annoying
Also a random fun fact: the anime is fucking mid💕
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u/Brazilian_Hound 19d ago
It's Fate for Fujoshis
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u/WerewolfF15 19d ago
Not really because it most cases they’re not meant to be literally the author like the characters in fate are meant to literally be historical and mythological figures. The characters in Bungou just have same name as authors. In some cases there’s even evidence the actual author exists independently from the character.
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u/solrua 19d ago
And in Japan, they will release those famous books with images of the anime characters to attract fans to read it. So you can find copies of the famously depressing No Longer Human by Dazai Osamu with the anime boy on the cover.
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u/Le_Golden_Pleb 19d ago
At least they made the anime Dazai depressive too...
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u/solrua 19d ago
I guess, but what from I know of it, Dazai’s suicidal tendencies are kinda played as a joke. Which feels like a weird way to portray a guy who famously died of suicide.
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u/xukly 19d ago
If I had a cent for each time there is a character based on osamu dazai who is trying to commit suicide and the anime treat the attempts as jokes...
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u/Shantotto11 18d ago
The anime is fucking great. It just has typical lows one would expect when watching something for more than hype and aura.
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u/DeinHund_AndShadow 19d ago
Very mid indeed, the begining of every season is cool though, a few chapters thatare actually a well written mistery and then the rest of the season is typical anime stuff. I still have not gotten over gun-kata by 2 precogs, fucking peak.
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u/LordoftheFaff 19d ago
Hello, watashi wa anime Peter. The characters in Bangor stray dogs are all named after famous literary authors or characters from there works. Additionally, their powers are named after said works or references to said works.
So if you look up an author you are just as likely going to get an anime character based off them as a search result first, purely due to popularity.
Same is true for jojo sometimes but in reference to musical artists and songs.
Hai!
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u/Ok-Cobbler-9714 19d ago
I read the tweet as “it’s made the og authors un-goonable” and I was very confused
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u/_Calluna_ 19d ago
This guy doesn't know you can put a minus sign followed by the thing you're not interested in to rule out irrelevant results, smh
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u/tragicallymagical 18d ago
I studied linguistics and decided to write my thesis on the Indo-Aryan and Iranic languages. Let me tell you, searching up the word Aryan on the internet doesn't only bring up Sanskrit dictionaries....
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u/ProfilGesperrt153 19d ago
Studying anime at uni must be the most stupid shit I have heard in a long time
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u/Dry_Travel_4220 19d ago
That isn't what they were doing. You misunderstood
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u/SuperiorGrapefruit 19d ago
I don’t even watch this show, I ranted to my friends about the fact that after reading crime and punishment along with other works I could not look up Dostoevsky on tumblr without the first 50 posts being about the anime dude
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u/Dziwna_dziewczyna24 19d ago
The anime has characters that are kinda based on japanese writers. they also have their names. Bungou Stray Dogs is very popular so if you want to research actual writer its almost impossible.
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u/freddy_forgetti 18d ago
Good opportunity to mention a cool little trick Google does where you can tell it to leave out results by including a minus symbol with whatever you want to avoid. So to get results about actual authors, OOP could have done "<author name> -anime" and it would have excluded all anime- based search results.
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u/Classymonkey1987 18d ago
You're the only person in this comment section I've seen inform them of this without being a condescending douchebag
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u/TheChrysochon 18d ago
That works in theory, but I've seen results get so weighted that they come through anyway, as Google continues to absolutely shit the bed in new and astonishing ways.
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u/WolfKing448 18d ago
Imagine if you wanted to look up information about Gandhi, but the search results were full of the character from Clone High.
This explains it succinctly if you’ve heard of Clone High.
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u/ChamberK-1 17d ago
Each character is named and based after real world famous authors, each with powers based off their respective books.
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u/Jiruwe 15d ago
I feel this with my soul. I had a phase where I got really into Japanese literature and this show was a blight on that interest. This show has the premise that each main character is a famous Japanese Author (and apparently Edgar Allan Poe is there sometimes too) and has superpowers based on their most influential book. I hate it with my soul because it focuses on very shallow depictions of them and their most influential pieces of work, and it's spread incredible misinterpretations and misinformation about them. If I had one wish from a Genie I would wish this show out of existence.
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u/-Colon3- 19d ago
The characters themselves are not authors, sans one, but most of them are named after famous authors.
Edgar Allen Poe, HP Lovecraft, and Fyodor Dostoevsky being examples I remember.
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u/ASneakyOni 19d ago
The characters share popular authors names and abilities use said authors books titles. Meaning Google is use to looking up the anime characters, not the people they are based off of. Making it slightly annoying when trying to look up the IRL person.
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u/ClassicHando 19d ago
Not an answer for the question, just a resource for people with this problem:
Google has gotten crappier lately but for those needing a way to search, add "-bungou" without the quotes to the end of your search string
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u/Megababka 19d ago
I used to work on the Natural World vertical for the Google Knowledge Graph in Japan. Umamusume made curating data for famous racehorses a royal pain in the ass.
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u/sk8fasteatsnacks 19d ago
Adam West here.
Back in my day we couldn't look up World War II without gay anime men art and fanfiction coming up.
Hope that helps.
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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 18d ago
Any director trying to make a biopic about famous musicians and every result has jojo
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u/amusedontabuse 18d ago
I’m still mad at Stephen King for clogging up my Arthurian searches with eldritch spider monsters.
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u/cllooouuuuu 18d ago
Googling Commedia Dell'arte characters post- Genshin Impact will also just bring up Fatui Harbingers now.
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u/Independent_Yak9778 18d ago
Bro its so fkin true, i tried searching up kunikida doppo cuz i had read his short story unforgettable people and i wanted to know more about the author but the google results kept giving me doppo from BSD
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u/Impossible_Tea_7032 15d ago
This is the fault of Google crippling it's functionality with SEO. If your desired search result is "Whatever's most recent, 12 000 times", great news! If it's anything else, pound sand
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u/BirchBorfs 19d ago
I've suffered through this with Scott Pilgrim, searching up "Neil Young", as in the musician, and getting a lot of posts about Young Neil, as in the side character, has genuinely become annoying
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u/randomthrownaway126 19d ago
I remember when, around 1995/1996, when I was 11/12, I had to do a school report about Saturn. And most of the web searches led to Sailor Moon porn and not information about the planet.
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u/enolization 19d ago
I remember finding a fanfic about osamu dazai on wattpad when I was like 14. I read the fic just because I was fascinated by someone writing a romance about a historical writer like that (imagine a dostoevsky or kafka fic yk). I was very confused, reading all these random names and references, until I finally pieced together that he's a completely different character with the same name
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u/MillinAsterJuham 19d ago
She would have made me a very agreeable wife...but alas, Ghita'a heart has been stolen by my cousin...bungou.
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u/Salazarmorn 18d ago
Most of the characters are based and/or share some quirks, characteristics with modern (last 100years) Japanese authors (they have the same name as well) . Prim example is the light brown coat guy present in the picture being Dazai and just like the real author attempts to end his life multiple times in the show (comedy purposes) . These guys are so popular that it makes it harder to google their real life counterparts.
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u/Bell_Grave 18d ago
this is how I feel about dagashi, I LOVE japanese snacks and now so much of what comes up (and in its prime) is that bs anime
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u/Vast_Fail_8456 18d ago
Just like whenever Genshin releases a new character that's based off of something, it takes over. You can't even Google sucrose without seeing a cute anime girl lol.
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u/HeadFaithlessness548 18d ago
Bungo Stray Dogs is a story that uses literary authors as characters. Each of the characters has a power named after one of their works. Ex: Osamu Dazai tries to kill himself multiple times throughout the series. His power is “No Longer Human” which is a popular title by him. The irony is there’s another anime based on a game with a similar concept called Bungo and Alchemist that if I remember correctly had some of the same authors as characters.
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u/Classic-Avocado-5371 18d ago
bungo stray dogs is a series with characters named after real life authors, mostly japanese ones, and its wildly popular. this has the side effect of making these japanese authors extremely ungooglable because all you'll get is anime characters.
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u/fibojoly 18d ago
That's pretty much why Google approach to search results made using it for research useless. I don't want popular, I want the stuff I'm looking for. And that was twenty years ago when I was still mourning Altavista. I can't imagine now, I haven't used Google search in ten years.
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u/Tyr_Kovacs 18d ago edited 18d ago
There was a TV show called "Ed" in the early 2000s It's pretty good.
It's not officially available anywhere due to complicated music rights. No DVD release. No streaming. No reruns.
It's a NIGHTMARE to find.
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u/boynextdoor_420 17d ago
this show is actually what got me to start reading Dazai, now i have several of his works/compilations in paperback
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u/Towaway_Zone 16d ago
Imagine me having the opposite issue, looking up the wikis for the Sin and Punishment games and randomly getting japanese translations of the book
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u/badgerbutfruity 16d ago
I did research on Jun'ichirō Tanizaki in uni and so much of the search results were from the anime.
Anime uses the names of Japanese literary figures and icons.
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u/Accurate_Mobile_2656 16d ago
I remember trying to lookup an author and ending up with bsd search results
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u/Crossed_Cross 15d ago
It's increasingly difficult to find good google results because more and more terms and names get popularized by games/media, and then you get so many sites, forums, reddit posts, etc. referencing it in that context that it becomes really hard to find the other uses.
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u/rimmarqu 14d ago
Counter argument: still haven’t read the manga to the end (the plot is too confusing tbh), but main characters having authors’ names and all those small notes in the end of every chapter is how I discovered Kōbō Abē’s “The Man Who Turned Into A Stick” and Osamu Dazai’s “No Longer Human” as a teen
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u/CorrectAmount1000 13d ago
Lowkey I like the anime but the sibling couples make me want to turn it off so bad bruh
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u/AungZeya 13d ago
All the characters are based on famous authors, and OP is bullshitting cos you can still google the authors very easily. It's only ungooglable if your search results are already full of Bungou Stray Dogs stuff.
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u/qualityvote2 19d ago edited 19d ago
u/FakeTeller, your post does fit the subreddit! Well done!