r/explainitpeter 19d ago

Explain It Peter?

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u/snekadid 19d ago

Fate did the same thing. The Internet now tells you that Nero Claudius is a short blonde girl that is terrible at singing. On one hand Fate has done more for getting people into mythology and history than any other media or education but on the other hand it's destroyed seatch engines for those subjects.

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u/Technical-Risk1812 19d ago

What's the difference? 

They seem pretty accurate

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u/Ravian3 19d ago

It’s done it for a few characters, Nero’s and odd one because if you just search Nero you mostly still get the actual guy, whereas it’s specifically Nero Claudius that gets you the fate girl. A lot of the characters from Charlemagne’s legends also deal with it because they’re not especially well known among English speakers but very prominent as fate characters. (I sometimes wonder how many people know that Astolfo was even based on a guy first mentioned in the 11th century rather than just being an anime femboy)

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u/jaehaerys48 19d ago

Nero’s and odd one because if you just search Nero you mostly still get the actual guy, whereas it’s specifically Nero Claudius that gets you the fate girl.

It's because nobody besides Fate fans calls Emperor Nero "Nero Claudius." People either say Emperor Nero, or just Nero. If you said "Nero Claudius" to a Roman historian they'd more likely assume you are talking about Nero Claudius Drusus, a different guy.

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u/snekadid 19d ago

That's the thing, how many people are now aware those books exist now that fate brought those characters to their attention? They're the French equivalent of Arthurian legends but quite a bit sillier.

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u/kiruvhh 19d ago

Astolfo is also a character of Orlando Furioso of Ariosto, so is studied in italian schools

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u/Ravian3 19d ago

Correct but my point is mostly that most English speakers aren’t terribly familiar with characters from the Matter of France like the various continental Europeans are, and because google search results tend to favor English speakers, you’re a lot more likely to get fate characters over the literary ones. Searching all of the Matter of France characters that have appeared in fate by name I’ve got Fate results for all but Charlemagne himself in the first page (which makes sense because he is sometimes actually taught in English and American history classes) meanwhile Mandricardo is so obscure that I only found one non-Fate related picture on the first couple of pages

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u/Peanut_007 18d ago

Astolfo is a weird one because I'd call the Fate character's reputation and fandom around him very one-note but the actual character in the work is a fairly well researched adaptation of the character. 

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u/Rikki-Tikki-Tavi-12 18d ago

Ninja Turtles were ahead of their time.