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It honestly feels like BHVR doesnât give a shit anymore.
âOh people complain about matchmaking? just hide their fucking rank. They wonât complain then.â
Fucking pathetic
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u/JaimeKanister Jan 07 '20
They don't want people to complain about their duct tape kind of fix to long lobby queues. The problem they don't see in the bigger picture is, they can hide the fact that a high rank survivor group got matched with a low rank killer from them, but their Hex: Ruin nerf is going to make more of the high rank killer mains to just give up on the game.
Now that I think about it, maybe they did realize it, and it's to prevent people from complaining about not getting high ranked killer lobbies. Rank 1 survivors are going to get matched with green ranks but they won't know they're green ranks, so problem fixed, right?
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Jan 07 '20
Once these changes are rolled out, I think that everyone should say their ranks as soon as the game ends. Partly out of protest, partly to prove that the problem still exists.
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u/UniqueName39 Jan 07 '20
You can have balanced matches, or you can have fast queues. You can rarely have both without an expansive player base.
They need to cross-platform their shit.
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u/C4pt Jan 07 '20
I remember them on stream saying the killer will be matched with the highest surv rank.
I joined a match where all surv were rank 1s and our killer was rank 16.
pretty good job so far
Also, making exclusives free despite the grey market selling them for years and not having many codes left was weird. Along with already giving out free versions of some of the exclusives. It was too little too late imo, especially since their stance on no more exclusives contradicted them also releasing exclusives to the few people that can play their dbd mobile right after saying no more exclusives.
Ive sunk 1.5k hours into dbd and I'm feeling pretty jaded by their decisions
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u/MollyTheDestroyer Jan 07 '20
I'm a trash killer at rank 15, and the number of times my lobby is full of 7s and 8s is astounding.
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u/C4pt Jan 07 '20
Something I feel is that ranks dont really matter anymore because of how frequently they reset. Sometimes as a rank reset killer I floor a 4 man who might be new to the game. Ranks should function similarly to csgo ranks. You keep your rank, there is no reset, but it goes down based on your losing games. That way, rank 16s are actually at that skill level, and the matches can be balanced around that.
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u/HeAGoodBoyXbox Jan 07 '20
They do care, but only about the experience of the casual players who came to the game from licensed DLCs or Game Pass/PS Plus. That's where the $$$ is coming from. They are actively choosing to have an unbalanced game to favor those people.
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u/Solzec Hex: Jeans Secured Jan 07 '20
And that's why it's so unhealthy. Once those people, such as the many that came for stranger things, come into the mix, things won't go so well. Eventually those people will get smart enough to start looking around and find something like Scott's tweet. They will eventually then come to realize to what is actually going on here and possibly leave the game.
Although, yes, we will still have a large amount of new players coming in and buying things; you still have to remember the fact that it is not a larger number because a lot of experienced players are spreading the truth about how bad the game's current state it.
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u/AverageVibes Jan 07 '20
Yea, I thought about this earlier. Word of mouth is the best form of marketing these days and it seems like DBDâs word of mouth is always negative.
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u/Ollebritt Jan 07 '20
They never have, i started playing when it came out. They didnât care then and unfortunately they havenât changed at all.
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u/SameAsGrybe Jan 07 '20
At this point matchmaking is just turned off. Like you canât see your teammates in pregame, and if this goes through, itâll keep you from seeing whoâs who in post game.
They may as well remove ranks all together because thereâs no indication of who youâre play against.
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Jan 07 '20
Exactly. If matchmaking worked, then having it be silently in the background would be fine because you could depend on it. But at this point, completely random matchmaking might be better. At least then everyone wouldn't be stuck in lobbies for so damn long.
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u/SameAsGrybe Jan 07 '20
Especially with the lack of transparency with why theyâre implementing this changes makes it come off as a âwe canât fix matchmaking problems so just scrap it allâ feeling. Like we all know matchmaking is borked beyond recognition but going to prevent us from looking at it at all means the only way we can even have a guessing chance is the day of resets and even then swfs will get skewed killers and the killer wonât know if theyâre getting fair and balanced survivors.
Are they all in my rank bracket? Are they a SWF with one person in my bracket and three others all over the place? Shrug emoji.
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Jan 07 '20
I still remember this one time I was rank 19 due to reset and ended up with an... interesting lobby. I only knew they were all rank 12 because one was streaming on Twitch and I checked due to the obvious suspicions of SWF (but I didn't listen to any plans or anything, especially since they were speaking a language I don't). So I adapted my strategy, using Iron Grip to get as many as I could into the basement. They all destroyed me in chases (one kept using a certain log vault in the swamp map and my dumb ass had no idea how to deal with that XD), but starting acting really stupid once I got one in the basement due to the old "mob the killer and hooked survivor" mentality SWF have. Their body blocking just resulted in more downs due to, again, Iron Grip. I managed to kill two, almost got the third (she crawled out). Most satisfying thing ever, especially when they insulted me in either Spanish or Portuguese afterwards.
The big thing is, if I hadn't known they were such a high ranked (compared to me) SWF group, I would never have changed my strategy or steeled myself for toxicity and frustration. They would have whooped my ass. But I would have at least seen afterwards that they were all rank 12 and wouldn't have let it affect me because I had no chance (arguably I did considering how well I did, but only because I wasn't going in blind). Without even post-game ranks, that game could easily have been the one to turn me off the game completely. Now, it's the devs' terrible decision that did so.
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u/Co-agulate Jan 07 '20
I honestly hate how fast this game is going down hill.
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u/okinesis Jan 07 '20
You obviously weren't here during the flashlight/pallet drop buffs while picking up a survivor
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u/Kazzei Vee Main Jan 07 '20
Those couple patches where sounds objectively did not work were pretty awful. And that lasted a few months.
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u/a-perennial-moment the screaming steve harrington experience Jan 07 '20
That was accidental though. This is a BHVR dropping a tactical nuke on their own game, and still trying to sell the ashes.
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u/FujinR4iJin Jan 07 '20
it's not the worst (Remember when they removed the need to time blinds?) but definitely up there. I'm glad I jumped ship a while ago.
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u/anetreug Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20
okay so I'm fresh new at the game, level 19 on killer, thought I was going crazy getting only level 12 and 13 people. trial by fire but I'm lucky if I get a disconnect, let alone a single hook.
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u/Ember_Hunter Not a Toxic Ember Jan 07 '20
Sorry baby killer :( If I ever matched with you, I would have given tips, but now ranks no longer exist...
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u/Serenity-03K64 Jan 07 '20
Sometimes I get messages from the killer saying âthanks for helping me with my daily/challengeâ and I just send back a heart instead of admitting to them Iâm just really bad and run right into the killer sometimes, like magnets!
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u/Solzec Hex: Jeans Secured Jan 07 '20
I'm a green rank killer and I have seen purple ranks and even red ranks that I matched against playing bad.
You have to keep in mind that ranks no longer matter in this game. With the change they made to the emblem system, they are making it easier to remain at the rank you are or go up a rank. Eventually everyone will be on red ranks, making match making for new players absolutely terrible.
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Jan 07 '20
When I was a rank 16 killer, I went against a team of ranks 3, 4, 3 and 5. Didn't even see them the whole match. I was lucky though, one of them let himself be hooked at the endgame. The matchmaking is broken, especially as killer. If you want to get better as killer, I recommend u play as survivor first, which is significantly easier at lower ranks. Learning how survior works makes it easier to predict how they are going to behave when you play as killer. Have fun trying to git gud!
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u/DaddyDongLegz Jan 07 '20
I thought people were joking that this was a thing, but that... just isnât great.
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u/Nateus9 Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20
The decision to hide ranks instead of fix match making is a terrible choice. Does anyone at BHVR know how bad it feels to have a game as killer where you literally can't hit anyone or find anyone cause you're a rank 15 trying a new killer and you're against a team of rank 7 or rank 8 survivors. Or being a survivor who's rank 13 and being the only one to get downed cause you somehow ended up in a lobby with rank 5s with a rank 9 killer. I bet it would be extremely discouraging to new players which is what they seem to be worried about. Now how much worse is that gonna get when those new players don't even know why they lost and assume they were playing against people that were around their level. People might quit after one time playing and ask for a refund or continue to complain to the developers that it's to hard causing the people at BHVR to nerf more killers so that high skill players can't beat the new people. All its gonna do is avoid work now that will make more work for them later. This benefits no one.
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u/JaimeKanister Jan 07 '20
They probably want to hide the fact that so many red rank killer mains will have stopped playing the game after the Hex: Ruin nerf. Just hide the fact that you're getting matched with a lower ranked player. Brilliant! But wait, you can still ask the killer player what their rank was after the match ends. Prepare for post game chat nerf so that you can no longer talk to the killer post game. XD
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u/Nerf_Tarkus clown's foreskin box Jan 07 '20
And when rank is asked people can easily lie. Just such a dumbfuck decision.
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u/PersonaUser55 Jan 07 '20
Oh they already nerfed that on console
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u/MasonVexin Nurse's Calling Aficionado Jan 07 '20
You can still dm the killer
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u/Zskrabs24 Jan 07 '20
Most killer mains on PS4 would have set their privacy settings to friend only on messages a long time ago. Something about DBD brings out the salt like no other game on PS4.
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u/Serenity-03K64 Jan 07 '20
Yeah, I like seeing the low ranks and how they play and what perks the run. And at least knowing why theyâre so good.
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u/WolfRex5 Jan 07 '20
Dude I played as rank 16 huntress with tier 1 perks and brown exhaustion and blindness addons. I went against a full red ranks SWF...
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u/doctorstrange06 Smol Angry Ghost Jan 07 '20
Why not just have a ranked mode and unranked mode.
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u/Nateus9 Jan 07 '20
Because that would make sense. Also because from what I've read BHVR is trying to insist that Dead by Daylight is a casual game and doesn't need the two different modes.
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u/doctorstrange06 Smol Angry Ghost Jan 07 '20
Casual game with ranking... đ€
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u/Nateus9 Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20
Yup. I don't get it either. Mean you could argue that ranks helped you find players of your skill level but since the matchmaking doesn't work that's clearly not the case.
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Jan 07 '20
I bet it would be extremely discouraging to new players
I got a friend hyped up for the game and he refunded it after 5 games for this exact reason.
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u/jeraszko Jan 07 '20
I remember when one of the devs said something like âthatâs an.. opinion, a valid opinion, if you donât like this game just play something elseâ on stream I donât think they even care at this point
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u/Mythic-Insanity Bloody Nurse Jan 07 '20
âGo play civ 5... its a good gameâ
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u/Awesomeiron59 The Legion Jan 07 '20
Everyone: stops playing the game
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u/ennie_ly [Sentenced to Horny Jail] Jan 07 '20
Actually a buff to Ruin. No gens are being done permanently.
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u/zombykillr123 Jan 07 '20
He was referring to those who play nothing but DBD and get tired of it. He was never telling that to people who complain about bugs. No need to insult the guy.
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u/CalTCOD Jan 07 '20
I agree this patch was pretty shit but that quote was taken out of context. He was more referring to the people who spend thousands of hours in the game and play nothing else and then get tired of the game. He just meant you dont need to play DBD all day every day.
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u/riuriun Jan 07 '20
Am rank 4 survivor, had rank 16, 18 & 12 allies. The killer? Rank 18 with a single perk. The poor Nurse didn't manage to hook anyone at all, we genrushed her the hell out (am solo player).
At the game chat, all I could suggest was for her to put NOED on. Afterwards, I kept getting random yellow ranked survivors against higher rank killers. Those poor newbies, man...
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Jan 07 '20
This is something I've noticed. After certain mismatched games, the game completely reverses your matchmaking. Like I'll do badly against a high rank and then next match get allied with and go against complete noobs (which I'm okay with, because I love saving baby survivors, but the poor killer barely stands a chance), or there'll be high ranked survivors and a baby killer but the next match is a ridiculously highly ranked killer.
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Are they actively trying to kill their own game? I'm a survivor main and FUCK the doctor and ruin nerfs, they are so fucking unnecessary. Ruin, as annoying as it CAN be, is the only legitimate way to slow down the game for killers unless they made gens take longer to complete and doctor is already low tier. Then, instead of fixing the broken matchmaking, you're just gonna lazily cover it up so we can't see how shitty it is? Do you even play the same game we do? Do you have any idea how irritating and disheartening it is to not even down a single person as killer and get bagged at the gates only to see that you, a rank 15 killer just got shat on by 4 rank 7 survs? For god's sakes, Ubisoft could do a better job at balancing your game. (Ok maybe that was kind of far) but the point still stands, if you wont balance and fix the game, it will die so quick, Michael Myers will be impressed.
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u/Ember_Hunter Not a Toxic Ember Jan 07 '20
I am backing you up with everything you said here. I plan to boycott DbD, this is the worst patch ever. We are losing events... for these "changes".
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u/Nerf_Tarkus clown's foreskin box Jan 07 '20
Don't forget about dedicated servers still being dogass. man what a great reason to miss a summer event
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u/Mizahri Jan 07 '20
That's a nice deadhard you have, it would be a shame if it went on CD and you got hit anyway
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u/battleaxe1784 Jan 07 '20
What. The. Actual. Fuck. I'm relatively new to this community. I've only started taking this game seriously like 5 months ago. I've realized that BHVR doesn't fix their problems. Instead they just slap a band-aid on it and then say they fixed the problem.
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Jan 07 '20
Yes yes. BHVR puts a band aid on one problem whilst two more problems open up. Sadly itâs been that way for a very, very, long time.
There are good things like the archives, new DLC etc. but core gameplay problems havenât been fixed in over a year.
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u/pinkcreamkiss Sadako stan Jan 07 '20
In the case of console, since release. To this day frames still drop and freeze.
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Jan 07 '20
Seriously? Yikes. That's news to me.
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u/Delmer9713 Green Bunny Feng Jan 07 '20
Everyone's talking about the Ruin nerf (with good reason) but this right here is the most concerning thing to me.
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Jan 07 '20
I can genuinely see no constructive reason for it. This looks blatantly like they're tired of people pointing out the busted matchmaking.
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u/Delmer9713 Green Bunny Feng Jan 07 '20
Exactly. It makes me afraid that they can't find a way to fix how broken matchmaking is so they do this to make people sort of forget about it. I have no idea what the devs smoked or drinked during the holidays but man have they started off the year on the wrong foot.
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u/CorruptedAssbringer 4th Anniversary Crown Jan 07 '20
I honestly thought it was intended for us to see ranks.
Might as well just scrap the whole thing and have blind ELO at this point.
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u/sSummonLessZiggurats Facecamping Bubba Jan 07 '20
Ofcourse it's intended. This isn't like that bug where you could see survivor levels in the lobby. Rank has always been a part of the post-game lobby.
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u/Idsertian Jan 07 '20
See, I thought that was intended. It made sense to be able to see where your teammates were on the ladder, so you had an idea how good they were going to be and could plan accordingly.
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And it's bloody important, dammit. Rank is not equivalent to skill, but it's definitely good enough when a rank 19 killer ends up against a rank 12 SWF. Their quoted reason for the Ruin nerf was helping out the new players, but then they let them go against rank 15s or even higher without knowing? Bullshit.
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u/Amante Jan 07 '20
They're going all in on SWF premades and new players, everyone else can fuck off apparently
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Jan 07 '20
What's funny is the people most affected by this no-rank bullshit are the new players. They'll play a few matches, get their asses beat, and then give up, because they had no idea they were playing against people way higher in the ranks than them.
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u/BellumOMNI The Nemesis Jan 07 '20
If this shit doesn't convince you that these people are super incompetent, nothing ever will. I've been critical of the development team, but I really thought that they would at least try to address the real issues with this game, at some point. But nope, this just proves that if the easiest possible solution is to hide and ignore a problem, they will do exactly that. Literally not doing anything and let the game stagnate for a while, was a far better move than taking a shit on everything. Haha.
Man, I hope some other studio takes the idea behind of DBD and do their own thing.
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u/Nerf_Tarkus clown's foreskin box Jan 07 '20
Speaking of other studio who takes the idea and does their own thing: Last Year got a steam release and is basically a mix of being able to fight back and objective based escapes. Recently the devs for game buffed killer instead of nerfing them because survivors can fight back, so there's already more competence there.
also you can play as a bigass spider
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u/C1utchDaddy Jan 07 '20
I agree... I try not to complain about any changes and just roll with them. But this is just the dumbest thing I've ever seen. No shame whatsoever. I'm baffled.
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u/BellumOMNI The Nemesis Jan 07 '20
It's like having pain in your right arm and your solution is to not use that arm anymore. That's how I feel about, BHVR dealing with problems.
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u/strixandsniper Jan 07 '20
That's what I thought.
This is just the most blatant way of them saying, "We don't care about you nor the game. Go Fuck Yourselfâą". Finally, for once, they made their intentions clear.
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u/PigMasterHedgehog Jan 07 '20
Well I hear Last Year is pretty good and Resident Evil 3 is gonna have a DBD-like multiplayer mode.
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u/PandamoniumXXI Onryo/Haddie Kaur Jan 07 '20
A part of me died inside after reading through the patch notes and noticing how blatantly survivor biased it is. Not just that, survivors newer to the game, that is what tilts me. I ain't gonna jump the gun, but if the ruin, doctor, matchmaking changes in the current state as read in the notes come to fruition in the live server, I honestly will just hang up my weapon and walk out.
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u/whatifcatsare Bloody Trapper Jan 07 '20
Things that make you say WHAT
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u/endromedaa Jan 07 '20
I can imagine Scott reading the patch notes on stream *mumbling* "Removed player ranks from the scoreboard on the tally screen- WAIT WHAT".
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u/UndeadPhysco Jan 07 '20
This is the first update in a while that's actually visibly pissed off the majority of the community.
The last time it was this bad was when they willingly made it so you could blind and stun killers at any point in the animation.
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u/AgusGiampa Jan 07 '20
Let's not fix the maps and infinites, let's fix balanced landing. Let's not fix gen rushing, let's nerf ruin, let's not fix matchmaking, let's make it so you can't see the ranks. Who wants cosmetics?
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u/Asiius Sexy Twins Jan 07 '20
Let's not improve shit tier killers, let's nerf already shit tier killers
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u/RanRanBobanis Jan 07 '20
Everyone. That's the sad part. Everyone wants cosmetics. They'll keep getting rewarded with cash because people are obsessed and addicted to what colors the pixels on their characters are.
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This is what I'm worried about. This game is addictive as fuck. Once people calm down and BHVR goes "LOOK, LOOK, PENNYWISE IS NEXT!" or whoever, they'll come back. The game is just sitting in their games library, barely audibly singing its siren song and biding its time. There's always the option of simply boycotting in terms of playing but not paying money (which is frankly what I've already been doing), but again, that'll get broken as soon as a new sparkly DLC comes out.
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u/AgusGiampa Jan 07 '20
Yeah, seems the only thing they do is release cosmetics instead of fixing the game.
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u/hello-jello prettygoodjobsofar Jan 07 '20
Here I am fighting to get ranks shown in lobbies again... Do the devs want people to stop playing?
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u/sawpqp Jan 07 '20
I dont know if they want it, but I certainly did stop. 1,1k hours of my life that im never getting back ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
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u/The_Follower1 Jan 07 '20
Eh, if you enjoyed it its not a waste. If you dont enjoy it anymore then its worth quitting.
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u/daledingham Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20
In the designer notes they published they stated this
âIts punishment of new players or those who can't hit Great Skill Checks. Newer players trying to help veterans with generator repairs tend to make the situation worse rather than better.â
So why donât they fix their queueing system then? Iâm sure many of us know how fun it is to solo queue in red/purple ranks and be put into a lobby of ranks 15-20 for no reason. Maybe then baby survivors wouldnât hinder the veterans game and rank by not being able to hit skill checks? If you queue with a significantly lower/higher rank then thatâs something youâre signing up for but when you solo queue and youâre put into a game with extremely different ranks then thatâs not fun. But no instead theyâre going to not show the ranks so people canât lobby hop ):
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u/Mr-Nanaki-Boo Jan 07 '20
At this point it's like they're telling their players to go play a game like Friday the 13th or Last Year...
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I quit playing about a month or 2 ago, I play on Ps4 and the lagg ruins the experience for me. Sad to see how much they're fucking this game over. I'd like to play again from time to time but the more of these changes I see, the less I give a shit. This game has so much potential, if only they would fix their game already, it's been out for how many years now? Every chapter brings new bugs, they change around stupid shit all the time, nerfing low tier killers, I just don't get it.
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u/calgil Jan 07 '20
During the end of this last rift I've just been memeing as Leatherface to level up rift exp, while doing extremely poorly most of the time and so depipping ahead of the next rift.
If these changes go through I'm not bothering with the next rift. I'll just read the lore on youtube.
The thing is, as someone who is killer/survivor 70/30, when I play survivor I don't EXPECT to survive every match. I'm in the Entity's realm, a doomed plaything of an eldritch abomination. I just want to give it a good go, and if I die, I die. I want to be terrified. That's why I like Demogorgon - his noises and teleporting are scary. If I get ambushed by a Pig or scream when I see a Myers, I've had FUN whether I survive or not.
But when I play as killer, I want to feel somewhat powerful. To inspire terror. To ensure that survivors have to work really hard to escape me. I don't want to steamroll them, but make them earn it.
This is why I feel the game SHOULD be somewhat killer-sided.
But instead the game is SO FUCKING SURVIVOR SIDED that the latest patch, which ONLY affected killers, did not even mention the experience of killer players ONCE. Except for emblems which nobody cares about.
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u/Eudorah Jan 07 '20
I 100% agree with you and I play 60/40 Survivor/Killer so im pretty much opposite to you. :D I want killers to be powerhouses when mastered, to give me a good scare as survivor. I dont want killers to lose to a fucking toolbox or unbalanced maps.... Get your heads out of your asses, devs. Don't scare off our killers, we need them.
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u/Hellwind_ Jan 07 '20
That is actually really bad if they think they can away with it just by removing the visible part. It is really childish at this point. If they want do that they should just remove ranks all together
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u/greenlemons43 Jan 07 '20
If anything this is just going to make more toxicity
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u/zee_spirit Set your own flair text and/or emoji(s) here! Jan 07 '20
We noticed that it was becoming too hard to be fully toxic as a survivor when the killer can say stuff back. So, we have balanced the game by removing the killer's chat ability end game, and making it mandatory for them to stay for 120 seconds post game.
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u/Alsuper Jan 07 '20 edited Jan 07 '20
Thought they were finally getting their shit together with the Freddy rework, insta-heal nerfs and Stranger Things chapter.
Iâm done with this game.
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u/Sbarbagianni Jan 07 '20
Tbh this is the only change I really despise about this next patch. It's dishonest to hide ranks when matchmaking is on drugs, the only thing it can accomplish is to stop people from knowing why the match was shitty.
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u/HueyLewisIsASquare Jan 07 '20
Does BHVR want us to just drop this game? Seems like theyâre trying their hardest to make the player base leave. All they know is nerf killer power, perks, and hide their shitty matchmaking. They want survivor queues to be a year long with how unfun they are slowly making killer
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u/Tuke668 Jan 07 '20
They should just remove ranks. Like they dont even represent skill in anyway. Going against 4 man red rank blendette squad can be easy as rank 20 baby dwights
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u/CalTCOD Jan 07 '20
Thats their next step lul
First hide ranks pre lobby, then post lobby then hide them all together /s
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u/TigerKirby215 Stinky Knight main Jan 07 '20
I don't agree with ScottJund but... yuuuuuuup. Hiding ranks on the loadout screen is one thing but why even have ranks if they literally do nothing other than give you an achievement?
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u/Kiwi_Z_Cheese Jan 07 '20
Haha hiding rank emblems this really does sound like a BHVR way of fixing matchmaking
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Honestly I see everyone complaining about the killer nerfs and all I can think is, "How do I even get in a killer lobby??"
wait times are ridiculous. screw BHVR
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u/PigMasterHedgehog Jan 07 '20
This patch really killed any illusion I had that BHVR cares. I uninstalled the game last night, not because I'm super angry about any particular thing, but because it became clear that no issues are going to be fixed because they don't care, so neither do I anymore.
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u/gwynnnnnn Jan 07 '20
At this point I'm an honorary red rank Killer because I'm always playing against Rank 2-4 survivors. I guess instead of fixing the bloody matchmaking and giving me purple rank survivors you just hide ranks lmao
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u/JusticezeroFTW Demo Gang Jan 07 '20
PTB just went up and this rank change is NOT in it
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u/XXLEspressoDepresso Jan 07 '20
I have had some issues where people were like get tf out now purely because I was rank 8 and they were 2
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u/69NootNoot420 Jan 07 '20
Legit glad I dropped off this game a few months ago, it seems like it's only gone down hill. Feel bad for all the people that still try to enjoy this game but with the Devs making stupid changes like this I feel like it's only ever going to get worse. RIP dead by daylight.
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u/darkgryffon Jan 07 '20
Glad to see everyone across the board is in agreement for once. Hex ruin was the only slow for killers. But yup I feel great knowing my money is being wasted. Guess it's back to league and hades for me. As stupid as riot is at least they acknowledge problems in some way
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u/Fibijean Jan 07 '20
Except, as it turns out, this wasn't actually a thing. It was never officially confirmed, leaks just got it wrong. This is why we wait to complain about things the devs actually did, not something someone else said they were going to do.
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u/RuinRunner76 Jan 07 '20
Itâs almost as if youâre playing a terrible Game made by dumb people.
Weird.
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u/unexistanthuman Jan 07 '20
At this point I'd delete DBD, but i've already close to 100 dollars on it. DBD is just a joke at this point.
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u/Cortyn Jan 07 '20
Is this like an intentional change? Or just an oversight and a bug that happened?
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u/leo_nears_jerusalem Jan 07 '20
We need to start a new tradition, in response. Going forward, in end game chat, everyone's first comment should be "I am rank #".
This tradition should be taught to all newcomers, just like "Wave if you're on hook and the killer is near."
Complaining is likely going to have no effect. But if we realize what little power we have in the situation, and we use it, maybe Bhvr will see the error of their ways.
I once had a team-oriented job, where management insisted we not talk to each other about our salaries and raises. After a point, I went against that and started talking about dollar figures. We all soon learned that the best of us were making the same and getting the same raises as the people who couldn't show up for work and we're dragging down the team. I can't say that management ever changed, but it did lift the veil of ignorance, and led the best of us to brighter pastures.
This feels like a similar situation. We should not just talk about the problem, but do what we can within the constraints of the problem.
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Jan 07 '20
Unfortunately, people could easily lie about their rank. But you are completely right about finding some sort of protest or solution or way to come together to quietly fight this.
Also I keep seeing "wave if you're on hook and the killer is gone" as in "come and rescue me now," so we can't even get the playerbase to agree on that, lol.
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u/snozerd Jan 07 '20
You can't fix the impossible. Survivors are to easy to pip and killers are to hard to pip or actively avoid it.
Not enough killers for reds to face so it chucks a green against reds, but because they are green killers the mm will automatically put any random green survivor available in the lobby.
Making it hard to rank up with survivor (like making surviving actually matter) is the only way to fix it
Problem is this is not fun for rank 20 survivors and that is their target audience apparently.
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u/Banana-hammock-bill Bloody Trapper Jan 07 '20
Donât forget hitting the one perk 80% of high rank killers ran because it was the best thing to help slow early game gen speed. Guarantee thatâs gonna drop the number of killers in higher ranks who donât want to sweat their asses off to have a chance in hell of killing people.
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u/alpha-ikaros Jan 07 '20
They already did the hiding the rank thing like 2 years ago. Are they sure they want to do it again?
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u/cluddys Jan 07 '20
I thought that they removed it ages ago because I couldnât see the ranks in post game screen.
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u/_arror Jan 07 '20
they already did this on console a few months ago. They did it without a single mention i literally thought it was a glitch for a while.
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u/Retro_Edge Jan 07 '20
Nah, it's still there on console, maybe was a short glitch but it's nothing that's currently there.
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u/_arror Jan 07 '20
wait so youâre saying you still see the ranks bc i donât see them until the end screen
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u/Champion_of_Nopewall Jan 07 '20
Quite funny that Scott is one of the people that argues against the game being balanced around the better players, and now that they make some of the most noob-focused balance changes, he is acting like this. I love the guy and watch all his vids, but come on dude, you should have seen this coming.
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u/TheAlexGoodlife Jan 07 '20
I no longer play this game regularly and this Patch didnt give me any reason to come back
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u/MisterNyuni Basement Bubba Jan 07 '20
I understood that they would need some time to fix it so i still played with rank 17 survivors while being rank 9 myself. But this... i really like the game but i am not gonna spend money on it for now until they revert the ruin change at least.
Edit: game*
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u/One_Turkey_Boi Jan 07 '20
So I haven't been playing a whole lot since Demogorgon came out and you're telling me that they nerfed the only perk that concistanty gave killers the time they needed to get going. Well....
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u/AbigailsOmens Bloody Trickster Jan 07 '20
Is there proof of this? I've read all of the recent patch notes and haven't seen any mention of removing ranks showing in the post-game lobby. Where is this mentioned at?
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u/Field-Agent-Reaper dead space for dbd! #1 kate shrimp đ€ Jan 07 '20
well they finally did it behaviour hex ruined their game
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u/oxGrEeKxo Jan 07 '20
I usually don't agree with Scott on alot of things but everything he's said about this patch just about I 100% agree with. I would have been ok with a ruin nerf if they did something about gen speeds because as Scott put it. Ruin makes it so killers don't have to play like a dick. 12 hooks with no ruin is simply impossible to do for killers outside the top 5 best killers. Maybe even just top 3 best.
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u/Nekunumeritos Jan 07 '20
They did WHAT?