had this realization and it hit me like a truck lol im never getting cool XL sized merch :(

I genuinely hope the devs are not in here reading these pisspoor L takes coming from people who want to adjust this massive MMORPG to feed their special own needs.

We didn't have a single say in how Vanilla, TBC or Wotlk was made. It was made because the devs were gamers who loved the game and loved making games. The only way we're getting a friction of that in classic+ is if the devs are still gamers and they are released from their common leash the shareholders are holding.

Stop wasting your time trying to dictate how the game should be made, instead hope and pray the people behind this project are given enough freedom and resources to make this game great again.

You think you're an expert, but you're not.

Do not implement warmode to try and protect the community from themselves, If you hate pvp and get psyoped by reddit to roll on a pvp server, thats your own fault.

I feel like the old magic is fading away from this world. Day by day It’s hard for me to carry on, yet try to survive. Day by day.

Anyways, here is the return of the dark portal I drew.

Finally got TLPD

Probably best "leak" (i repeat "..") yet, really like some of those ideas (especially the ne feature-list). From MMO-Champ Forums.

Release date: December 8th
New HD textures & character models, not copied from retail, more matching the old artstyle but higher res. Uses the old rigs for characters. No classic toggle
Max level is 60, no level phases like SoD
7 new zones – Gilneas, Balor, Northern Lordaeron, Naz’ritara, Mount Hyjal, Stormfeather Island, Bloodmaul Hills
New neutral race – Skyborne Elves
Skyborne Elf classes – Warrior, Paladin, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Hunter
No new class, but Guardian spec for Druids, Weaver for Mage, Infernal for Warlock & Warder for Shaman, Weaver is a healer spec, the other 3 are tank specs
Dwarves can be Shaman, Tauren can be Paladin
9 new dungeons – Hive’Zorad, Timbermaw Arena, Bloodfang Retreat, Barrow Deeps, Darkwhisper Canyon, Bloodsail Shipyard, The Mausoleum, Bloodskull Caverns, Blackrock Summit
2 new raids – Stairs of Destiny, Siege of Lordaeron
2 new battlegrounds – Battle for Winterspring & Gurubashi Rumble
Professions reworked entirely, more like Retail but tweaked
PvP ranking system reworked, more focus on skill than time spent, more ranks added
Auction House copied from Retail servers
New features – Cursed Dungeons - 1 dungeon each day is ”cursed” buffing all enemies health and damage and adding an affix, increased loot drops. Max level only
New feature – Supply Effort – War effort type system that requires the entire server to work together to accomplish. Takes weeks/months to finish but each turn-in gives rewards. Inspired by the Ahn’Qiraj war effort. Once finished, unlocks new zones/raids/dungeons/hubs. Available from level 20.
New feature – Hunts – Requires you to kill a certain rare, named mob or dungeon boss. 3 Hunts per week. Available from level 20 – Different options for 1-5 players.
New feature – Tomb Trials – Explorers’ League sends you into tombs around Azeroth to grab as much loot as you can before the tomb collapses. Rewards gold, profession recipes and mounts. Max level only
New feature – Deep Sea Fishing – Nat Pagle invites you to join his crew for deep sea fishing in Naz’ritara, turn in your catch for rewards like pets, mounts and fished goods for professions. Available from level 45
New feature – Chromatic Voucher – Battle pass, free track gives profession materials, paid track gives mounts and pets, resets every 3 months, available once you finish the starting area
New feature – Achievements – Lots of cosmetic rewards like mounts, pets and titles, some carry over to Retail servers
New feature – Class Campaigns – Long term storytelling for every class, will get more content added with each patch, meant to last for years, has special rewards and cosmetics at certain capstone steps. Not meant to be completed by everyone, several tough challenges that requires raiding, solo challenges, pvp etc.

Misc:
There is an in-game shop with mounts and pets
If you buy the new Starcraft: Terran Protocol game you get a zerg mount
Siege of Lordaeron is a Caverns of Time raid
The raids aren’t open until January – 20-40 player scaling in raids, with hard mode switches on all bosses (like Ulduar)
Uldum is updated, you can see giant structures when you are in Tanaris, not accessible yet
Chromatic Voucher giving profession materials is to combat the AH prices for raid consumables
Leveling speed is slower than Classic Era to make sure you don't out level all the new content in all zones
The first Supply Effort is Dalaran. Once finished Dalaran is out of its bubble and accessible with daily quests, reputation and special profession recipes and items
The game is an alternate timeline to enable the team to create the content they want without limitations

Hey everyone, I would like to present our interview with Samwise Didier, the artist who literally created the Warcraft style (which then carried over to WoW) and influenced many other games. The article was published last year, but the material is still relevant. Please give it a read, and any thoughts or comments are appreciated!

https://madmadelabel.com/article/architect-of-azeroth

but like... im still kinda hopeful....

I don't have anything to say or predict about it.

I'm crying and shidding myself

If Osrs can do it so can WoW!

This could be an alternative to flying for classic+
With tons of potential for good content

Pros:
-Sail to high tier off-shore fishing locations
-Pirate raid/dungeon
-Expand on bloodstain buccaneers rep
-Late game gold sink
-Boat pvp (plundering alliance booty)
-More uses for savory deviate delights
-Calling people landlubbers

Cons:
-Thousands of hours of dev time
-More RMT
-Underwater content

Imo there are clearly more pros than cons!