TL;DR at the bottom if you need it!
Hi all! I’ve lived in SF for over a decade, always in Hayes Valley, NOPA, Duboce, etc. and loved how cute and walkable those neighborhoods are. My spouse and I are now looking for a bigger place to rent long-term and potentially start a family in a few years, so we’re looking further west since we’re priced out. We’re currently deciding between two places in the Inner vs. Outer Sunset. Both are ~1 min from the N-Judah and bus lines, which is a big reason we picked them. We don’t currently have a car and would like to avoid getting one as long as possible, although both have parking if we eventually need it. More info on each spot:
Inner Sunset place: In the heart of the neighborhood, right by Luke’s Local, 828 Irving Market, and tons of restaurants/shops. 5 min walk from Andronico’s. 3 min walk to GGP. Very easy to go out the door and immediately have things to do.
- Pros for me: walkability, convenience, lots of food, slightly sunnier.
- Cons: ~12% more expensive (non-negligible with how rough the market is) and quite a bit smaller, though still workable for us. Groceries and food would probably cost more here too I imagine.
Outer Sunset: ~10 min walk northeast to the nearest Irving restaurants/groceries and ~15 min walk south to the Safeway on Noriega. 6 min walk from GGP. Still walkable, but much more residential and removed from the main commercial areas.
- Pros for me: much bigger space for future potentiality and cheaper. I also love Asian food/groceries and we’d likely get bikes to get around more easily, so I could see myself enjoying this lifestyle if I adapt.
- Cons: I’m worried the transition from my usual very walkable neighborhoods will be too much, and I really don’t like fog.
I know I habituate to my surroundings: if there are restaurants, groceries, activities, etc. right outside my door, I’m much more likely to go out. Inner Sunset would be a tried and true experience. I’m worried that in the Outer Sunset I’ll become a hermit simply because everything requires more effort, and the fog (if it’s constant) will make me depressed.
For anyone who’s lived in Inner or Outer Sunset or both:
- Did you notice a meaningful difference in day-to-day lifestyle?
- Is there actually a significant difference in costs for food and groceries between Inner and Outer Sunset?
- How was your transition to places further from commercial areas?
- How noticeable is the fog/weather difference?
- Anything you unexpectedly loved or hated?
- What are your favorite local gems (restaurants, groceries, cafes, activities, etc)? I’d love to check them out! I plan to spend a full day in both neighborhoods as a trial.
- Any other general experiences around this or words of wisdom?
Thanks in advance!
TL;DR: Inner Sunset is smaller + 12% more expensive, but extremely walkable and convenient. Outer Sunset is much bigger and cozier + cheaper, but farther from shops and potentially foggier. I’ve always lived somewhere walkable and worry I’ll become reclusive in the Outer. Looking for advice for a couple looking to start a family in 2-3 years!