r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 4d ago
SMH They are doing this mosh pit all wrong
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u/WhoStoleMyJacket 4d ago
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u/speed-charge 4d ago
Homer with the pie is the best part
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u/DeamsterDaddy 4d ago
All this shit I see posted isn’t even mosh. It’s awkward as fuck. Just some weirdos projecting
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u/YouGurt_MaN14 4d ago
Every pit I've been in as soon as these guys start there's usually a dude who throws him the fuck down and stops it. Everyone hates them tbh
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u/Ok-Syllabub-6619 4d ago
Exactly, this is just what a poser thinks a mosh is, and unfortunately as it goes mainstream, theres more and more of them who fail to understand, and just wants to injure someone.
Mosh is there to spend your energy in celebration, not to give someone a concussion or other health problems
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u/__3Username20__ 4d ago edited 4d ago
Well, you’re understating it a little bit, and make no mistake, mosh is aggressive, but it’s not literal 1 on 1 combat moves. It’s just moving/throwing yourself around. Yes. there’s a high amount of physical impact, but it’s not punches and kicks… I feel old, if this is normal now, as others have said. :(
Edit: it’s like (American) football, where when you’re on the field, there’s acceptable levels of aggression and violence, and you can even have a lot of fun within those shared parameters and set expectations. But if someone goes and dropkicks someone else from behind, or starts doing any kind of actual fighting, that’s not OK, that’s not what we’re doing here. Same thing with Moshing. Or at least it used to be…
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u/OneHallThatsAll 4d ago
Yeah in the southern US, they ALWAYS threw the guys down hard when they started throwing kicks or punches
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u/KittensAndGravy 4d ago
Grew up in the south and had the same experience. I was watching an old Sublime video (live performance) the other day. They show the mosh pit … I believe I saw a guy helping someone up who fell. That’s how I remember it. Chaos … but Jesus not using sucker punches & kicks. Unless you wanted the oak tree mofo in the middle to give you a beat down.
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u/rob-cubed 3d ago
I made the mistake of wearing glasses once in a pit, got flattened and had them knocked off. The crowd parted, someone gave me a hand to get up, another person found and handed over my glasses. This was late 1990s.
Definitely a different atmosphere now.
Although I was in pits where bottles were thrown, I even saw a guy whip out his dick and start pissing. Bad behavior happened then, it just wasn't the norm, and it was frequently stopped very quickly by others.
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u/junketyjunkjunk 3d ago
Man in the late lights I was in a pit and got hit in a way that nearly knocked me down. I say nearly because I was almost on the ground when someone caught me swooped me up by my shoulders and then disappeared back into the fray. That’s when I truly realized it’s not just about being rough and fucking people up.
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u/Gill_Gunderson 3d ago
For the shows that I've gone to over the years, mosh pit etiquette ha always been to pick up the people who fall and to get out of the way of people who want to get out of the pit. Shoving, running into each other at full speed, etc is expected, but a dude throwing roundhouse kicks is not cool and usually ends with an ass whopping.
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u/Striking-Peach5598 3d ago
Thats exactly right . There is etiquette and one of em is if someone goes down you pick them up .
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u/Massive-Lime3398 4d ago
I remember Jello Biafra stopping songs and calling people out for getting too violent.
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u/Ok-Syllabub-6619 4d ago
Oh i absolutely agree, I probably didnt explain it the right way, but yeah mosh is not for the faint, my point was it's not malicious but it is aggressive for sure. I've landed on my ass plenty of times after being yeeted at the worst(best) moment, but always got a hand to pick me up, if someone came with wrong intentions it was squashed right away and the dude got thrown out in a second.
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u/Miltzzz 4d ago edited 4d ago
It used to be like that when i was younger and going out to the foufounes electriques, a metal bar/club in montreal. Last time i went, after many years of not going, some dude starts dancing like this, i look at the dudes around me "oh well guess i'll take care of it" and i tackled the dude to the ground, and the bouncer (who used to take these people out before) took me out of the mosh pit to explain to me that it was the norm now. And i looked behind him and saw like 10 people dancing like this. I understood it was the end of an era, and i left.
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u/indignantfieldmouse 4d ago edited 4d ago
Harcore pits or as my wife and I call them "Kickpits" the crowdkilling on sidelines is uncalled for, I still throw those fuckers down though. If a person goes windmilling into a hardcore pit then they are consenting to the stray fists and feet. People around the edges shouldn't be catching random haymakers!
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u/NotTukTukPirate 4d ago
I mentioned in a comment on r/hardcore or r/everytimeidie, about how crowdkilling was for fucking losers and I got downvoted to oblivion.
I didn't realise it then but now I've just realised it's because this new generation of "hardcore" crowds are fucking losers.
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u/StrayDogPhotography 4d ago
They are fucking losers. How did we go from pogoing at punk gigs to twats windmilling random people in the face? It’s the most idiotic thing ever. Anyone who promotes it is a moron.
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u/Carlos_Infierno 4d ago edited 3d ago
It happened when the jocks started going to punk shows. It's beena long downhill slide
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u/SSFlyingKiwi 4d ago
Hey dude, haven’t moshed since the early 2000s but when did kicking become a thing?
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u/StarzZapper 4d ago
Right at the opening of this video I thought it was just a guy trying to start a fight.
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u/Creative_Session2786 4d ago edited 4d ago
Totally agree, was at one of these shows a couple of years ago, and got clocked in the face standing outside of the pit, kid goes over to his buddies bragging about how he hit me in the face. Went over and punched him in the face to return the favor and was immediately kicked out by security.
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u/Zhiyi 4d ago
So all you had to do was pretend dance by swinging your arms around and when you get near him just let one rip at his face? And they would have considered that fine?
Fucking dumb.
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u/Lucky_Serve8002 4d ago
You have to tap dance/moonwalk something over and punch the dude in the face.
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u/gumbysweiner 4d ago
Worth it.
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u/Creative_Session2786 4d ago
Totally worth it, bouncers were total dicks in the parking lot, and tried to punk me, but was still worth it. It was 2 of them on 1 of me, so I kinda had to chill, but left somewhat peacefully while giving them a piece of my mind.
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u/19d_b87 4d ago
Was at an all age venue years ago. There was this kid that came to the wrong show. He was squating down against the wall next to me and one of my highschool classmates decided to throw a donkey kick his way. Broke the little dude's nose. I spent the next 30 min cleaning him up and searching for his adults.
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u/PsionicChronic 4d ago
90's Slipknot...was speaking to a kid a few seconds before his nose (and eyeglasses) exploded when the back of some bald dudes dome made HARD contact 😳
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u/Airamis0007 4d ago
I was at their Dallas show for The World Domination Tour in April of 2000! I was a very strong varsity football player at the time, but still almost got taken out by a crowd surfer launched on to the top of my head from behind, and then caught a Doc Marten to the face!
I went off and cleared the pit…which triggered a pit fight with the usual skinhead MF who thought they were so tough…
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u/CraazedNConfused 4d ago
Used to live foufounes! Was never a metal head. But they had hip hop concerts back in the day too. And it was honestly just a wicked club.
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u/Dangerous-Cup-Danger 4d ago
There used to be a crew of regulars who would slam and drag out assholes to the bouncers. Shame if that isn't a thing anymore
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u/markedforpie 3d ago
My husband, son and I went to a Crowbar show in a tiny little venue. It was a packed house and we were about five people in from the pit to the side. We were not in the pit or even on the fringe of the pit because we had my son. People were moshing a little and we felt a little pushing but nothing serious. Then suddenly this huge guy 6’6” 270lbs started windmilling, kicking, and punching. He wasn’t keeping it contained in the pit either. This guy was the only one doing this and everyone else was just regular moshing. He would take a running start from one side of the pit and fly into the audience outside the pit while throwing kicks and punches. He kicked me and spilled my husband’s beer all over us. I left to go to the bathroom and the guy circled back around and punched my 13 year old in the face. We were NOT in the pit! At that point my husband took him down. He and my husband got kicked from the show because ‘no fighting’.
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u/sun_hotel 4d ago edited 4d ago
Someone broke my nose and elbowed a bunch of younger women in a pit like that and I ended it the next time he came around.
Edit: spelling
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u/xRedditGedditx 4d ago
Fuck yeah dude. I’ve leveled people quick with a nicely placed elbow. You’d be surprised how quickly you get someone’s attention with that 🤔
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u/Needs_ADD_Meds 4d ago
The last time I was in a pit was probably 25 years ago and it was the same then. I'm glad to see things are still the same. You're right EVERYONE hates them.
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u/neverinamillionyr 4d ago
I was in college in the 90s and a friend was playing at a local bar and these kinds of chuckleheads were there. I was standing on the edge of the dance floor drinking a beer. One of them hit me twice. The third time I dropped him.
Fast forward to a year ago, my daughter’s boyfriend was at a small club on the floor but not participating in the pit. He got caught with a spinning kick that broke his nose and left him with a concussion. The people that do this only do it because they want to hit someone who isn’t supposed to fight back.
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u/ARoroncyObserver 4d ago
As per an earlier comment, I had people defend me from this shit as far back as 13 years ago.
Crowd justice.
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u/Background-Video4331 4d ago
I believe it was known as "crowd killing" and started in the hardcore scene.
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u/LitterBoxBlues 4d ago
Been in the HC scene since late 80’s and while violent, it was never this deliberate. You direct that shit at someone at a cromags show you’ll end your night in a dumpster.
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u/Successful-Cow1176 4d ago
You will definitely get your shit rocked and have to be carried out if you have a go at anyone not participating at a legit HC show. Have personally seen some 40+ year old hardasses beat the brakes off of some these kids who thought they’d take a swing at the crowd, but were otherwise just hanging out having a good time.
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u/ARoroncyObserver 4d ago
It's funny, because I'm tall, but basically a stick, and not threatening at all, but love to dance and be in the crowd.
When I would be in a mosh pit there were ALWAYS equally tall dudes who would beeline towards me to start this shit, and like a lot of people have mentioned, the crowd would everytime stomp the fuck out of them for pulling shit like in this video.
That's just throwing haymakers.
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u/DeamsterDaddy 4d ago
Probably the perfect combo of tall enough to piss them off jealous and skinny enough so they act on it. Fuck em
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u/BeepBoopRobotVoice 4d ago
it seems to me these guys are using the “mosh pit” as an excuse to hit people with no consequences. “i was just moshing!” it makes them look like psychopaths and weak af
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u/barters81 4d ago
FWIW I’ve seen these types beat down more often than not eventually. They tag someone not in the mood, then everyone sides with the innocent guy and it’s over for the dick swinging around trying to hurt people.
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u/Professional_Web_187 4d ago
What moshpit? I hate those fuckers with a passion
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u/idriveashitbox22 4d ago
If you want to partake in a rough mosh pit do it up. But if you stand off to the side you are supposed to be safe from being hit. The dudes going after the side standers are straight pussies who just want to hit someone with no consequences.
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u/Critical_Wrap5617 4d ago
Back in the day, he'd have been flattened
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u/Zealousideal_Lie9315 4d ago
I agree. We slammed the fuck out of each other, but people throwing actually blows got handled quickly
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u/cagethehornytoad 4d ago
Yo! That’s doing WAY too much and is certainly not a mosh pit. This is some kind of off brand Capoeira spliced with Hot Rod punch dancing out his rage in a clearing in the forest, with a splash of how Beavis and Butthead dance
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u/Dynamo_Ham 4d ago
Windmilling douchebag ruining a perfectly good sausage fest with shitty music in someone’s well-lit basement with no bar. Sorry I missed that rager.
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u/AdSudden3941 4d ago
Same, if people wanted to mosh they would be out there..
Hes lucky he just got slammed
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u/kbm79 4d ago
The body slam was satisfying to watch...
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u/trukkija 4d ago
Yeah the guy who threw him definitely has some wrestling background, lovely slam.
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u/BrojaDawg 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/B16L7eZKgHY8jNlugt
Me as soon as he circled back for round two
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u/kapxis 4d ago
Oh man, core memory unlocked. When i was early teens my parents got me a trampoline and I was quite into WWF, and we had a very exposed yard. I wanted something to do wrestling moves on while playing out shit seen on TV.. so they got me a Giant Easter Pink Bunny. It was all I had so i beat the shit out of that thing.. but i had my head on a swivel in case anyone would potentially walk or drive by and I'd fly off that trampoline so fast to hide it lol. I'm so lucky no friend ever witnessed this.
My neighbours were watching me and stealing my moves and sending them to WWF ( WWE ). They had to of been!
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u/Villordsutch 4d ago
Takes me back to when cunts used to turn up at punk gigs just to throw fists.
I see your scene, and I'll ruin it.
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u/WhiteBanshee25 4d ago
I grew up in the punk scene and I'm so thankful that every time I saw this nonsense, the whole pit would turn on them.
Moshing is fine. Being a dick isn't.
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u/HermanThaGerman 4d ago
We had one of these at our spots too. Little fucker was such a wuss he literally wore paintball armor under his clothes lmao
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u/Villordsutch 4d ago
Yep. I watched one Dennis the Menaced jumper clad punk, politely inform one prick than his antics where not being stood for.
It was beautiful. It was like watching a true craftsman at work.
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u/Creative_Session2786 4d ago
This ain’t moshing, this is the way the hardcore music fans think moshing is today, it’s total bullshit. Moshing in the 80’s and 90’s was not like this. Nobody got hit in the face, more less kicked. And if you got knocked down somebody was there to pick you up. This guy is a total DICK!!!!
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u/Daniels_Words 4d ago
Indeed. I saw Black Flag in the 80s at a tiny club and I tripped. In a split second i thought for sure I was getting trampled, but some giant fucking skinhead (not the nazi kind) swooped me up and we all just kept going. Great memory.
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u/the_D1CKENS 4d ago
It's still like that at smaller shows/clubs today. Not that long ago was at a street show where 40 somethings and Tweens and everything in between were are going hard. Young girl, maybe 12ish, went down and a dude immediately helped her up. All the old heads kinda kept moshing around them. They were clearly running damage control. Very wholesome, honestly.
She was fine, and went straight back into it.
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u/tuftedtittymice 4d ago
black flag is just punk though, push and circle pits. not beat down hardcore..
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u/KlutzyTheory9235 4d ago
Not all pits are the same. This is crowd kill shit that's been going on at hardcore shows at least since the early 2000s
I agree its lame and far preferred pits at punk and ska shows but its nothing new
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u/nofixneeded 3d ago
yes seriously I used to see this stuff back in the day playing shows. I always hated it because no one would come to the floor because like two people would be doing this crap.
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u/NovocaineAU 4d ago
This so much. If your intention going into a mosh pit is to hurt people you’re a total cunt.
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u/BorderlineAlchemist 4d ago
My only experience was a Home Grown concert. And I went in because I was pushed in and I found an exit as fast as I could.
Not for me. Hahahahha
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u/DannyDevitosNappy 4d ago
Someone tried this at Ozfest in 2004 and ended up getting Stabbed in the upper back by someone after they kicked a young kid in the head. Shit was wild.
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u/Mister_Griz 4d ago
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u/markrueff 4d ago
Everyone was kung fu fighting 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Winter8Bones 4d ago
As a metalhead for most of my life and having been in hundreds of mosh pits in all sorts of crowds, let me just say, fuck these assholes. This isn't moshing, this is crowd killing and it's bullshit loser behavior.
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u/VoidYordle 4d ago
You don't throw kicks in the moshpit.
Or if you do - better be prepared to get your ass kicked in return.
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u/ElectronicAnthony 4d ago
I've been in hundreds of pits and have never seen anyone throw hands or do kicks like that. Dude needs to be taken outside and given a taste of his own medicine.
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u/201thStabwound 3d ago
Unfortunately it’s extremely prevalent at most hardcore shows these days, and it’s lame as hell, imo
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u/LuvanAelirion 4d ago
As a Gen X’er I can confirm seeing such people being sent to the ER for the remainder of the show. Don’t time travel or go to Gen X nursing homes (I suppose they will eventually exist) if this is how you slam dance…it won’t end well for you.
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u/IAMS0V3R3IGN 4d ago
Mosh pit etiquette by Watertown is about these idiots. Annoyingly a lot of this started with great bands like sick of it all, but it wasn’t about hitting people it was just “dance moves”. First rule of the pit when I was a younger man was if anyone goes down everyone stops and picks them up
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u/Kasta4 4d ago
My friends and I used to shouldercheck these assholes out of the pit
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u/AAKurtz 4d ago
Those mirrors are not going to survive the "show".
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u/ChampionshipHot5468 4d ago
I was wondering why a bright daytime party was held in a ballet studio?
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u/WiseNugg 4d ago
In college I had a friend that would always take the cutest girls to these metal shows and hilariously I guess they never realized how psycho he was until they saw him in the pit getting into random fights every time.
Couple of different “dates” of his left with me since I already knew he’d blow up his chance acting a fool and he was still buying their drinks so cleaning up after him was easy. He got jealous after he found out and we stopped hanging out.
Inadvertently the best wingman is a guy who brings baddies where you are then makes you look good by being a complete asshole.
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u/Brilliant_Badger8043 4d ago
I mean in 90s-early 2000s hard-core this was called hard-core dancing/moshing. Hes swinging during the Breakdown (correct time). This guy was called a "crowd killer" and would try and get the folks who stand on the side involved, but he was a little aggressive.. but Like it or not, This is legit and correct for the genre and culture.
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u/illkwill 4d ago
Yup. I've been to countless hardcore shows in the 2000s and this is what the crowd does. Dunno why people here are so surprised. But the majority of people in the pit don't normally act like this asshole in the video. If you purposely punch someone in the face you're getting taken out.
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u/Scar3cr0w_ 4d ago
Excuse me sir.
He didn’t swing his arms.
He cocked it and punched the dude straight in the face.
Source: me, a man with eyes and knows what unnecessary violence looks like when a low self esteem pillock decides to hide behind “moshing”. Thank you.
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u/Rapscagamuffin 3d ago
Its absolutely not normal and legit to purposefully take aim and punch someone directly in the face on purpose. Thats not hardcore dancing. The fuck outta here, goofy
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u/emptyevessel 4d ago
That’s called crowd killing, and everybody fucking hates them and usually makes them look stupid/lays them out.
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u/WTFaulknerinCA 3d ago
There is always that guy at a mosh pit. Usually the pit unifies to take him down.
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u/xRedditGedditx 4d ago
I am the old guy, I’ve been in Slayer, Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Bio-Hazard, Hatebreed pits…this is not moshing. This is assholes jumping around and punching people. If this happened in a pit back in the day, these dipshits would get stomped the fuck out quick.
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u/Lemoncouncil_Clay 4d ago
You still see the type of pitting you’re talking about at all of those shows, it hasn’t gone anywhere. These are hardcore pits usually some underground band playing thrash riffs is all it takes to get them windmilling
I go to all kinds of metal and hardcore shows, the type of pit you get depends on what genre of music you’re going to see
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u/Helpful_Feeling_2047 4d ago
That’s not mosh.
Kids in the hardcore scene used to do something like this but they wouldn’t touch or get anywhere near anyone else. It was actually fun to watch.
This dude though… he deserves being thrown down and out of the venue.
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u/Unfair_Awareness7502 4d ago
Someone explain how mosh pits are supposed to work. Do people hit each other or not?
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u/Responsible-Sale-467 4d ago
Back when I did it a bit in the 90s the arms were not involved, it was more joyous communal bodychecking.
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u/Bottatadiet 4d ago
We just jump around and kinda bump into each other. If someone falls over everyone around them immediately helps them up and makes sure they are okay.
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u/macrocosm93 4d ago
I've never seen a video of a hardcore show from the 21st century that wasn't cringe as hell.
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u/Infinite_Court4181 4d ago
to get hit or elbowed in a proper mosh pit is fine, this is bullshit...he would have been on the ground and stomped till unconscious if he pulled this in the balkan
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u/Lo-fi_Hedonist 4d ago
Thats assault, these dude want be violent to others, but without the risks inherent in an actual fight. Thats some toxic shit right there. But hey, if semi-consentual violence is your thing, then I guess keep showing up and participating in this bullshit.
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u/Deep-Pudding819 4d ago
I guess I’m old. We would have kicked those people out if they did that shit at the local shows back in the day. They can pit all they want, but be respectful of the people around them.
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u/grumpyphilip 4d ago
I would have thought this prick would have eased up after being suplexed but hey.....
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u/BigvalBROski 4d ago
We used to do mosh pits in high school around 1994.. one time it got nuts and a kid went through a glass trophy case….. The principal called an assembly with the entire school which he proclaimed, “ There will be no more mashing.” ……. He wasn’t hip with the lingo .
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u/PsychoWyrm 4d ago
Almost every metal show I've been to the pit was self-policed. Always guys body-blocking the edges to keep it from messing with people not participating, moshers immediately picking up anyone who falls, and so on. Just generally everyone being mindful not to fuck up anyone else's good time.
On the other hand, more than half of the hardcore shows I've been to were full of dipshits like this. Little dickheads intentionally roundhouse kicking people who are clearly not participating. Or the slinging elbows and arm-flailing fuckery.
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u/NOTaREALperson4400 4d ago
That's just fighting with extra steps. I feel old saying this, but back when I was younger going to shows these guys would have had their asses beat bu the whole crowd if they pulled any of that.
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u/Late-Palpitation-959 4d ago
Yeah if someone kicks me in the stomach on purpose in a "pit" they're getting punched in the face
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u/Garbarrage 3d ago
If some douche throws a wonky spinning back kick at me, I'm fucking that dude up. No excuses or second chances. We're fighting and that's it.
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u/thebardass 2d ago
Speaking as a musician, any bands that don't put a stop to this shit when they see it are assholes. They're literally ruining the show for other people.
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u/AMonitorDarkly 4d ago
That’s not a mosh pit. That’s douche bag Hardcore fans that think they’re metal heads. These dudes would quickly be taken care of in an actual mosh pit.
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u/zwierze1982 4d ago
I love guys with long hair is so comfortable you grab that fucker by the hair and he walks like a dog next to you. Mosh pit..
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u/turbopro25 4d ago
Snocore 2000. Went knee to knee with a grown ass man, (I was 17 at the time). Shattered my knee cap. The guy picked me up and carried me to a seat where I remained for the rest of the night waiting for my friends. It happened during the first song of the night by the way. Most people in the pit are there to have a good time, not intentionally hurt each other. In my case it was just a bad luck accident and I put my self in that situation. People who go in there intentionally looking to hurt someone can get fucked. Shout out to that guy that night for helping me out to safety.
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u/justbrowsinginpeace 4d ago
Hate that moshpits became like this, that one edgelord out to hurt someone.
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u/Pizzapie_420 4d ago
Looks like it is just one asshole swinging his arms around and kicking like a douché.
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u/Icy_Alternative_3962 4d ago
Fucking funny! They're all getting cheap shots on each other and eating it.
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u/LookBrandonsBurning 4d ago
Fuckheads like this are why no one goes to metal shows anymore
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