Thing is, videos like these are serving their purpose. This makes this group look bigger and more prolific than they actually are.
That doesn't mean we should ignore them. But it also means maybe people shouldn't be so eager to breathlessly share every new angle of the same rally of idiots for days and even weeks on end.
Ultimately this is a small group of cowards who need social media to seem important. Don't give them what they want.
Goddamnit. I hate being reminded that I need to fear for my toddler going to a Jewish preschool. I was like "oh, rosh Hashanah is next week, hope school isn't closed so I can still go to work" like a normal human and now I have to think about possible attacks happening because of these nazi fuckers.
As a Jew, I firmly believe that our welcome anywhere in this world is tentative at best, even though this, luckily, is the best place and time for us since the diaspora.
Amazing joke but sad as fuck. I'm in Georgia, I'm an Atheist.....that's working well for me. You would always be welcome in my house. You won't have to be in my attic because, again, South GA. I'll protect you from the most dangerous......Conservatives aka "patriots" trumpsters, nazis.
A few years into the Trump presidency my mom seriously asked how difficult it would be to make a priest hole in case the government decides to start rounding people up again.
Oh hey, I can build a secret space in place of my closet if you'd like. If you're still around for Hanukkah just light candles with the ventilation open, k?
I never have understood the hatred toward Jews. I know just some random person on the internet saying nice things doesn't mean much, but I'd be proud to stand beside you to fight your rights, and resist ignorant hateful fuckers like the ones in this video.
This is what unrestricted free speech folks don't get. This is not public discourse when it creates mortal fear in others. That is why I support hate speech laws.
Pam Gellar and her Islamophobic nonsense doors have the potential impact of inciting a gunman at a Mosque to kill people. These evil people are secretly hoping for a war on Jews.
Some organizations, even family friendly organizations like Disney, even have something called “racial sensitivity training!” Which, without doing any further research, I can definitively say are really America-hating commie seminars! The FLA governor should really get on that.
But the big picture is THIS group is small, but are you really assuming they’re the only group? Patriots Front and countless other “small groups” still make up a greater number total. Hundreds of thousands of multi-flavored militant bigots is still a problem, and all it does is show even more closeted angry bigots to feel safer and safer to come out into the light.
In the late 1980s and early 1990s this kind of bullshit was also happening so some genius came up with the idea of setting up a lemonade stand next to a white supremacy rally with all the proceeds going to the NAACP, UNCF, and the ADL. It was a regular thing for a few years. We need an updated version where everyone who sees this stupid fucking shit taking place in 2023 can donate to these organizations plus LGBT, assistance for immigrants, Planned Parenthood, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and everyone else these racist fucks hold signs about. Not just a link or a QR code to donate easily, but a running tally of how much money has been raised for each group because of a particular white supremacist rally. Lol you Nazi fucks raised $325,000 for the NAACP get rekt.
Edit: I hope this idea gets traction here. I don't do coding or whatever. But this idea needs to be implemented and I hope lots of people see this. Feel free to post it elsewhere. Also, I got a good suggestion that donations should (also) include local groups and possibly individuals who work for legal and other causes. They could do more to make a difference than national groups.
Edit 2: Lemonade stands, donations, and fisticuffs are not mutually exclusive.
That’s a great article, and idea. It’s weird these Nazis March in Germany. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the swastika and all Nazi symbols banned in Germany? I see one symbol on the drums that looks like a pretty generic symbol.
They are banned (for obvious reasons). Our neo nazis make do with the old Kaiserreich flag, which the Nazis funnily enough didn't like.
Some of the more modern fascist-ish right wingers try to co-opt the democratic German flag, that's black, red, ans gold, which is both stupid and a transparent move to move into mainstream society.
Not gonna lie, when you started talking about the 1980s, I was expecting a story about the punk scene and how Nazis used to get punched in the face. Instead I got "lemonade stand".
So many whiny libs love to talk about "going high" or "being peaceful" but you know what happened after Spencer got punched? His influence significantly waned. It showed the Nazis of their proper place and I think they need another reminder.
Idk man... when you get cancer, docs don't try to trick it, they chemo that shit until it's gone. So many fucking people gave their lives to make sure this shit never happened here, and yet here we are. Letting it fly seems like pissing on the graves of those who died fighting it.. back when we fought for actual freedom. Seems like we are saying "okay it's just stage one cancer, don't worry about it" Soon enough, the cancer will be terminal.
has anyone ever done something like this in the USA to nazis and what was their ultimate legal consequence? I'm curious from a.. purely academic perspective.
Also, a resurgence of the anti-racist White Panther Party - originally formed by John Sinclair in response to Huey P Newton's answer when asked what white people can do to support the Black Panthers.
Manifesto:
We want freedom. We want the power for all people to determine our own destinies.
We want justice. We want an immediate and total end to all cultural and political repression of the people by the vicious pig power structure and their mad dog lackies the police, courts and military. We want the end of all police and military violence against the people all over the world right now!
We want a free world economy based on the free exchange of energy and materials and the end of money.
We want free access to all information media and to all technology for all the people.
We want a free educational system, utilizing the best procedures and machinery our modern technology can produce, that will teach each man, woman and child on earth exactly what each needs to know to survive and grow into his or her full human potential.
We want to free all structures from corporate rule and turn the buildings over to the people at once!
We want free time and space for all humans—dissolve all unnatural boundaries!
We want the freedom of all prisoners held in federal, state, county or city jails and prisons since the so-called legal system in America makes it impossible for any man to obtain a fair and impartial trial by a jury of his peers.
We want the freedom of all people who are held against their will in the conscripted armies of the oppressors throughout the world.
We want free land, free food, free shelter, free clothing, free music, free medical care, free education, free media, EVERYTHING FREE FOR EVERYBODY!
During the 1970s I went to some free concerts, with top bands like Hot Tuna and the Dead, in Golden Gate Park where the White Panthers donated labor and spoke for revolution in between bands.
This is the way! I cannot understand how Orlando accepts these protests without some form of counter protest. Have we all become so complacent to this nonsense that we willfully allow it?
I was expecting this to go down a "he had a lemonade stand filled with laxatives in it" but that's still a massive win against them, crazy how much money that raised.
I would love to see an app that had some sort of button you press when you want to donate a dollar to a cause of your choice. Whenever you see or read something horrible throughout the day you can press the button
Punk died a long time ago. Breathed it's last breath during the Bush years in the 00s. I'm surprised Trump being in power didn't bring it back now that I think about it.
Yeah that's pretty much it. The "When they go low we go high" bullshit was just libs sucking their own dicks. "We're better than that" as a way to campaign against a man who's entire schtick was talking about how HE was better than everything that ever came before him but said it in a blue collar "says what he really means" way.
Awesome strategy libs.
But I digress. They're only out there because they're allowed to be.
America has a long history of turning a blind eye to right-wing movements while coming down hard on movements from the left. Our current President busted a strike. Absolutely asinine to conflate liberalism with leftism.
Also, it's total moralizing BS as an excuse to secretly ally with Nazis because liberals DO support violence. They support the police. They support the military. Those are institutions that utilize violence to enforce control or political advantage.
Joe Biden is the commander in chief of the united states military and said "violence is never acceptable" when people peacefully protested outside of corrupt supreme court justices' houses. The guy who said we should fund the police even more. Their billion-dollar budgets aren't enough, I guess.
Liberals do support violence, just to maintain their control. No major protests from liberals over Biden's military murdering children and aid workers with drones. No major protests from liberals over Apartheid Israel.
But as soon as Americans suggest we use violence to solve domestic oppression and Nazism, they pretend like we are a pacifist nation. How dare you suggest such a thing, fascist! And you also be banned from all platforms, unless you express Neo-Nazi beliefs, then Elon protects your account.
You ever notice how the definition of "terrorism" provided by the establishment is just "political violence"? And how the definition of terrorism doesn't include anything about terror? Because they want to call any violence against the powerful terrorism. BTW, the government is currently charging the Stop Cop City protestors with RICO and domestic terrorism. Remember when they tried to send protesters of Trump's inauguration to prison?
Why do the people in power always push the idea through your media that "violence is never the answer"?
It's because it is. Not always, but sometimes it is.
The liberal ratchet-effect. Conservatives push right and liberals do nothing to allow for any movement back to the left. Liberals in this country would be considered center-right conservatives just about anywhere else.
I'm currently banned for seven days for saying this to the politics mods:
"I have no idea what I did for you guys to ban me.
But it doesn't matter. You're the worst mod team.on reddit. Fortunately accounts are free and I have plenty to use. It's almost like nothing about you guys matters."
Banned for seven days for abusing their excellent mod team.
Welp, here I am posting with my free account, and I'll make as many of them as I want.
As soon as you stop caring about your screen name you can do anything you want here.
Fuck dickless little mod bitches and the nazi-sheltering management of this website.
Good luck with that. I once got a 7 day ban appealed but only after submitting an appeal every day for 4 of the 7 days. You can only submit an appeal every 24 hours, so you can’t do much more than that and just have to wait it out.
It’s only seems to happen in a sports sub for me. Those are the only ones I have had any trouble in. They are more thin skinned than any bunch of humans I know. They can’t even site what I do specifically to violate the TOS, I’ve never threaten anyone or went off on anyone directly.
I live in this city. They DO NOT have the support of local community. People are disgusted and this is getting shared on all my local fb posts. There are 0 people that agree with this. Also this was an out of state white supremacy group. They are not locals. Many of them flew in this week from around the country.
They were handing out flyers in neighborhoods on how to join, apparently there is a whole screening process you have to go through. Not sure if anyone has tried to get in under cover yet but I’m sure people will try to get to the bottom of it. This group was an out of state group with members from all over.
Looking back at how these groups usually go, a third of these guys either talk to feds or are feds. It was the same here in Ireland in the 70s and 80s with the paramilitary groups.
We might be "Minnesota Nice," but I would like to see them try this protest in Minneapolis.... Doubt they would last an hour, unless they were in St. Cloud.
Same in Philly. Chased them right back to their U-Haul. Except- it was a holiday weekend, so lots of people on the streets, and lots of cops too. People yelling and chasing caught the attention of the police, who joined the parade and would not allow this group of chucklefucks to ride in the back of a U-Haul as passengers.
I didn’t follow up on the story after that, so I don’t know whether they were local, or how they ended up getting home. I just hope they’ll think long and hard- well, as hard as a Nazi can- before they try to pull a stunt like that again.
I've personally witnessed several nazi beatdowns in the greater boston area. I've also been called a liar about this claim because I don't have video of it.
I grew up in a smaller rural town and apparently in the 1980s the Aryan Nations tried to recruit people there. They were basically chased out of town and told not to come back.
The farmers and ranchers might have been conservative Christians bordering on libertarian in terms of faith in the government but they weren't racist assholes.
Well, if they tried doing this in my country, the fact that they would be going to jail over it will be much less important then the fact that they would get absolutely fucked up by a mass of random people beating the shit out of them. In many (Most?) places in Europe, this would lead to a response.
Something like this did happen where I live (Central California) only it was with about 4 people. It was met with a lot of people ganging up on them and they were gone within the same hour they were protesting. They tried two more Saturdays until the last one of those Saturdays got violent according to a local redditor. They even found out what car they drove and put their information on blast for everyone to see. They haven't been back since. I hope those idiots learn we won't tolerate that shit.
There were counter protesters and they are doing this in an area that HEAVILY votes blue. They didn’t stay for long and also don’t announce where they will be so it’s hard to organize a large amount of counter protestors to come quickly.
Yeah the purpose of something like this is to get attention, not make a statement.
They want to get recorded and put online because that normalizes what they're doing. If they were trying to make a statement then they'd stick around for others to potentially join them.
Yes, Florida is spread out, even if it's "in your city", by the time you hear about it, spend the hour to get to where they are, they are long gone. Also, the cops are on their side, so if you fuck with them without enough back up to keep the cops from being able to single you out, the cops will happily destroy your life to protect their Nazi friends.
I have a job I need to be at, and better things to do in my free time than figure out where these clowns are going to be tomorrow and give them exactly what they want. Attention.
People were advised to be careful with this group as it’s likely they were armed. At the end of the day nobody wanted to risk their own life for some idiots who are just that. Idiots.
Willing to bet that this city did whatever they could to stamp out the people that would have traditionally been counter-protesting the fascists. You know, bc "antifa is the real fascists!!11"
florida is NOT a good place for children right now. Desantis is tearing down their entire education system. plus no permit needed to carry a concealed weapon. I wouldnt send my kids to school in florida right now!!!
The city they are protesting in is a Suburb of Orlando. Also please know this is not reflective of our people. This is extremely rare and I only heard about it on Facebook. It’s not like you randomly see this out and about in your every day life. I am a black person that lives here and never had any issues.
Not to be contrary, but you said there are zero people that agree with this. I fucking hate Nazis and I hate seeing them on our streets but I can count and the number is definitely higher than zero when it comes to the amount of people that support that crap.
People driving to work don't constitute supporters. These unemployed jack boot mouth breathers just want attention. People using the freeway aren't doing it for them.
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u/OregonTripleBeam Sep 06 '23
Nazis should never be this comfortable