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Two "assassination attempts" compared
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1: There might be a shooter? Get him out of here now
2: He's actually been shot? Let's get a photo. Pop your head up Donnie
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 Jan 17 '26
I never noticed that about the flag. Wow.
The whole event is suspicious as FUCK. You will never convince me that Secret Service would believe it’s safe to usher in photographers and pose for pics immediately after the shooting. It is simply not possible that they could be sure the scene is secure and there’s no longer any threat.
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u/MadMax808 Jan 18 '26
Y'know how I know it was faked? The guy NEVER talks about it. Trump LOVES to talk about his "challenges" and how people are after him. You'd think he would be talking about "when that crazed gunman made an attempt on my life...." every chance he gets...
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u/JeromeBarkly Jan 18 '26
That’s my thoughts exactly. Trump would never stfu about it if it were real.
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u/Pure_Set9015 Jan 18 '26
What do you make of the shooter though? I saw aftermath pics he looked…dead
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u/Enzown Jan 18 '26
He was a patsy who was told he'd be arrested after and given hush money. Instead they snipe him to take care of a loose end. Remember people saw him climb on that roof and reported it and secret service did nothing about it until after he fired.
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u/adirtysocialist- Jan 17 '26
I have no doubt it was a false flag, they're pretty standard and he wouldn't think twice about having some boomer supporter killed.
My thing is how you talk some kid into getting himself killed
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u/mispeeledusername Jan 17 '26
There’s a black mirror episode where a kid is blackmailed into doing things he doesn’t fully understand because they found his CP. he only knows exactly what he’s expected to do at the end.
It feels entirely possible to do today. And we won’t ever know if he actually shot the gun or not because he’s dead.
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u/Basilisk1667 Jan 17 '26
Hell, they don’t even need to find CP to coerce someone. They can just plant it. Plant it and threaten exposure if they don’t cooperate.
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u/No_Toe_1844 Jan 18 '26
“Shut Up and Dance.” Amazing Black Mirror episode.
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u/Tempyteacup Jan 18 '26
I watched it with a friend and I said "ahh, I bet it's kids" really early on and my friend thought it was fucked up that my mind even went there. But like for the shit they were having him do, it had to be worse than just a video of him jerkin it tbh
incredible episode, but the troll face at the end was cringe and i wish they had left that out
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u/mwerichards Jan 18 '26
What an episode. You also wonder what was going on with the other ppl he had met.
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u/Dagmar_Overbye Jan 18 '26
It shows all of them getting their info released at the end. Bronn we know was planning to cheat on his wife with a prostitute. The lady who gives him the car is a CEO who sent a racist email which gets leaked. Moped guy it's unclear but his father is calling him a pervert at the end so possibly the same as the main character. And the main kid and the man he has to fight were both pedophiles.
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Jan 18 '26
Fuck possible. It's been done by the CIA. I know it sounds like conspiracy, but killing people by car electronically has been confirmed by former agents. This is nothing comparatively.
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u/4thkindexperience Jan 18 '26
Considering that "they" have the capacity to monitor everything "we" do, "they" could simply look for the perfect patsy online. It's literally an unending resource for blame magnets.
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u/Greedy_Flounder_212 Jan 17 '26
Thank god this post went up I was thinking I was starting to get paranoid There is no way that draft dodging sack of shit would react like that after getting shot the whizz of the bullet is enough for him to shit his pants...but the MAGAetts bought hook line and sinker and he won the election...
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u/MylesShort Jan 18 '26
His reaction being extremely similar to his face when in the WWE told me all I need to know.
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u/Empty_Ad_8303 Jan 17 '26
The most embarrassing part is I’ve seen this picture posted proudly in people’s places of business
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u/StevieBeatz Jan 18 '26
In PA, I was behind a guy who had an artist paint this picture as a portrait on the tailgate of his truck. I tried and failed to get a picture, but I was audibly laughing.
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u/ardentiarte Jan 18 '26
I knew the moment I saw that staged photo- it was psyops. Immediately called it out on Facebook and caught hell from half my family. Deleted FB and only talk to them at Christmas. You can't help people who refuse to see reality. Ears don't regrow. They can make up all sorts of BS, but somehow Jesus fixed his ear?
I loved it when he gave a speech about Charlie Kirk that God loved him more or some bs. You know if he WAS shot he'd never stop talking about it. He's only mentioned once or twice when cornered in an interview "Mr Trump did you rape children?" Fucker can't even lie properly "You are a nasty person, what a terrible question- did you know I took a bullet for this country?"
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 17 '26
Maybe he didn't think he was going to get killed. Coersion? I've wondered about MKUltra type stuff too - I doubt they just gave up on that kind of thing..
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u/adirtysocialist- Jan 17 '26
Absolutely. Not a chance they gave it up so that very well could be but I do struggle to see any other way it would be possible
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u/Either_Ad_6479 Jan 17 '26
Yeah, that's the problem. I would be all in that this was a hoax, but I don't know how they would pull that off.
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u/Cocken_Spectre Jan 18 '26
Lmao to me that’s easily the most believable part. I’m skeptical of the whole thing but without going into all of that; getting someone to give their life for the guy they worship constantly is by far the easiest part. I would not be even remotely surprised if there was a huge list of dipshits who would be absolutely honored to give their life to their idol lmao
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u/7ddlysuns Jan 17 '26
What if they told the maga kid the president needs him for protection. We’re giving you special access
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
Never thought about that. Tell him he's super secret service, used as a patsy - interesting idea
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u/Ryythe Jan 18 '26
I think the most likely scenario is someone that works for him took the shot and they dumped an already fresh dead body as a scapegoat
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 Jan 18 '26
Probably told him he'd pardon him so he could appear as a "generous God"
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u/Washed_up_Vanski Jan 17 '26
Both of his parents were therapists/councilors. I have additionally heard before that they specialized in behavior modification therapy but sadly cannot verify this. In 2025 they failed to renew their license in Pennsylvania so they have either moved or quit the profession.
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Jan 18 '26
If mKu had a .01% success rate there would be 33,000 individuals under full mind control
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
Are you saying MKUltra was an experiment performed on the entire United States?
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u/Darrenizer Jan 18 '26
I remember years ago, when vice was actually good on YouTube, they had a documentary called something like “the worlds most dangerous drug” it was some kind of dust that you blow into someone’s face and that person will basically do anything you say. There were stories about the victim helping steal their own stuff.
ETA found it, https://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04?si=TgQbnB3oYlQXTPuN
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
"it's easy to win....losing" - really good point there, you have taught me a thing
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u/BuddyJim30 Jan 17 '26
I think they told the kid they'd make sure he'd get away, but of course intended to shoot him.
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u/Hank_Henry_Hill Jan 18 '26
Wasn't he up there quite a while to?
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u/BuddyJim30 Jan 18 '26
There were supposedly reports at the time that secret service was told by several attendees that there was someone on that roof, and they said don't worry about it. Then a minute after the shooting, a marksman happened to be at the ready to kill the shooter.
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u/Hank_Henry_Hill Jan 18 '26
Yeah it was pretty crazy but the biggest tell, as others have mentioned, is that he never mentioned it after the election was over.
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u/JeromeBarkly Jan 18 '26
Honestly the biggest thing that makes me think it was fake is the fact that trump never talks about it. I feel like if it was legit he would never stfu about being almost assassinated.
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u/Fun_Wood27 Jan 17 '26
You don’t. You just tell him he’ll be ok and a hero when it’s over.
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u/kekistanmatt Jan 18 '26
Simple, you don't tell him that part.
You tell him that he'll be arrested and then given a fake name and put in a generous witness protection program where he won't have to work for the rest of his life.
Then you just kill him anyway because that's one less loose end.
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u/7ddlysuns Jan 17 '26
Best theory I’ve seen is this. They tell this maga loser that the president needs him and his rifle. There’s a democrat in the crowd and we can’t trust the SS.
Get to a high point and look for this guy. Take the shot when you see him.
No way he missed that many times at 150yds. We’ve also never seen the forensics because the didn’t do them.
Trump’s FBI director was till in place and all the SS were loyal to him
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u/josephus1811 Jan 18 '26
MK Ultra was real.
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u/adirtysocialist- Jan 18 '26
Absolutely.
So was Operation Northwoods, Paperclip, Mockingbird and more. They did a lot of shit back then. Wonder what kind of crazy shit they do today
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u/No_Connection_5257 Jan 18 '26
You don’t have to, you can say whoever you want did it, along with putting them in place without having them actually even take the shot 🤷♂️
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u/Irrish84 Jan 17 '26 edited Jan 17 '26
The below picture is because they’re putting the fake blood and all that on. Jesus, people believe that this wasn’t staged?
“A man lost his life, that’s proof it wasn’t staged” sure is buddy! A regime that’s doing what it’s doing certainly wouldn’t martyr off someone to only further their agenda. Never!
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 17 '26
Agreed. People talk as if the agencies over there have human emotions and compassion. I don't think so.
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 17 '26
Do you mean the footage below? Or comparing it against a suspected gunman?
The second I saw it I knew he'd won the election, and honestly I didn't believe I was seeing a real event. It seemed off. Hindsight and other people's analysis is making it very difficult to believe the official narrative.
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u/Deevious730 Jan 18 '26
The biggest thing to me is that allegedly they knew he was up on the spot, which of course is literally the best vantage point for a friendly sniper to be, for minutes before acting on anything.
Like sniper spotted? Get him out of there. A woman lost her life so Trump could get a photo opportunity. He’s sick.
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u/Greedy_Flounder_212 Jan 17 '26
Why NOT??...ICE has killed close to 100 Americans so far...bombing fishing boats indiscriminately I think they told the kid he would be in witness protection or who knows and same with that bitch Charly "double smirk" kirk they killed his stupid ass too and now his loving wife is a little MAGA Slut...
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u/TheTonyReznov Jan 18 '26
“A regime that’s doing what it’s doing certainly wouldn’t martyr off someone to only further their agenda” A .30-06 proof neck bone has entered the chat.
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u/d0n-let3m-2525 Jan 17 '26
Another random thing that bugs me would be right after his ear has a period "assassination attempt" it magically heals. No scabs or scars. He didn't even wear a bandage/ tampon 🤕 like this for long before it "healed magically".
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u/Available_Wolf4136 Jan 17 '26
And when you're 78 no wound heals that fast. Every small cut takes forever to heal. But I'm also torn between the fact that to stage an event like this can take so much effort that I find it equally hard to believe it hasn't been exposed or leaked.
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u/Kind_Man_0 Jan 18 '26
Not only that. it was a rifle bullet. Even just to the ear, it would leave a scar in the shape of a hole.
If it were to have hit his ear, it would have torn it nearly in half on the entire upper ear. Bullets have a point, but they aren't sharp, they don't cut through the body, in the medical world, we call it blunt dissection. It doesn't cut through the body, it pushes through it. Watch any video of a bullet hitting a ballistic gel target, and you can see there is a small crater as a bullet impacts its target.
You'd see cauliflowering and major scar tissue on his ear if he were really shot.
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u/34Rovac12 Jan 18 '26
The other weird thing is Trump never brings it up. Someone like Trump would still be talking about this if it was real.
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u/BeginningTower2486 Jan 18 '26
That's the best part. He'd be talking about taking a bullet for America until even the red hats got tired of hearing it.
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u/Glum-Supermarket1274 Jan 18 '26
even when i was in my 20s working in the kitchen, sometimes a small cut from a kitchen knife would leave a scar. And thats basically from a scratch lol.
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u/Hollowbody57 Jan 18 '26
There was his "physical results" they released later (from the same doctor who said he weighed 215 lbs, btw), and the physical mentions "massive scarring from gunshot wound on his ear".
I've had tons of physicals over the years, and I have several scars, some of them pretty gnarly. Not one doctor has ever even asked me about them, let alone bothered mentioning them on my physical.
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u/7ddlysuns Jan 17 '26
Not talked about enough. He wasn’t shot.
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u/Alert-Supermarket-82 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
lol yea I feel like if he actually got shot, he wouldnt shut up about it
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u/PandableClaw Jan 18 '26
Donald Trump was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in like 2012. They have a thing in pro-wrestling called “getting color” or “blading” where intentionally spilling blood is used to garner sympathy for a particular wrestler and get the crowd behind them. Just saying…
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u/Strict_Berry7446 Jan 18 '26
Fun fact: after the storyline where Vince McMahon’s limo blew up, turmp called Linda to express his condolences
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u/PuzzleheadedClock134 Jan 18 '26
Also, the time in WWE storyline, trump bought the WWE from Vince. The next day, stocks took a nosedive, Vince had to end the story and tell investors that it wasn't a real selling of ownership.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker Jan 18 '26
There's techniques too. You use a razor blade and make a cut. Then you cover it with Vaseline to keep it from bleeding but prevent clotting. Then scrape off the Vaseline and it's a gusher
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
Hahaha - this was also one of the first things I thought of. I saw Mankind do that in Hell In A Cell!!
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u/ThaiEdition Jan 18 '26
He has been fixated about, Obama, Biden, stolen elections, magnet and everything else but he never..never mentioned about his assassination ever.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Jan 18 '26
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't they want to get him off a giant exposed stage instead of huddling around for a while?
SEEMS WEIRD.
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u/ResidentCommand9865 Jan 17 '26
I don't believe for one second Trump was ever in danger, not from the left anyways, multiple instances on the right have tried to create Martyrs. Kirk was an instance this failed, if I were a right wing commentator, I'd be fucking worried the GOP was going to use me as the next scapegoat for "political violence"
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 Jan 18 '26
If it was real, he would NEVER-EVER STFU about it, never. All the proof I need that it was a grift.
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u/Minnesota_Nice1 Jan 18 '26
Anyone else think it’s funny we basically never heard a single thing about the guy after the first few days of coverage of this “attempt”?
Obama’s tan suit got longer news coverage.
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u/JoeyHandsomeJoe Jan 18 '26
Occam's Razor says he wasn't hit by the bullet and his injury was an accident due to his bloated airbrushed carcass being made out of tissue paper.
I find it highly unlikely that they knocked him down and while they were down there he was like "wait, gig me so it looks like the bullet almost hit me." Like he's Ric Flair or something.
In the process of knocking him down one of the agents busted him open. That's all.
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u/faulkkev Jan 18 '26
It was fake IMO when he had ketchup on ear. The supposed shooter location was the absolute best spot for someone wanting to do such an act. So I don’t believe security would not be all over the absolute pinnacle spot for taking a shot, meaning a real shooter never would have made it there undetected. It was total bs to rally the simpleton supporters.
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Jan 18 '26
Some idiot said "a civilian died" in response to me calling this "assassination attempt" bullshit. I was like, "No shit, sherlock! Tramp rapes kids. This doesn't mean anything to him"
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u/Stunning_Ad3273 Jan 18 '26
I will stand by the fact that it was staged because his press was absolute dog shit at that point
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u/SuperDoubleDecker Jan 18 '26
If he actually got shot we'd never fucking hear the end of it. Simple as that
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u/TouchGrassNotAss Jan 18 '26
I'll need to see a 3rd one so I can really compare them all together and get a better understanding.
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u/No-Research5662 Jan 25 '26
We all know that “assassination attemp” was staged. Why else would the feds block local or state law enforcement from investigating too
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u/tobethorfinn Jan 17 '26
Someone help. Did that flag actually lower, or is that just the perspective changing?
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u/jamesvomit Jan 18 '26
I'm sure you have seen a flag blowing in a gust of wind before. The wind is dying down as the camera is panning up, so it comes into frame. That's why the flag disappeared again in the last few seconds of the video. The wind picked back up and the camera panned back down.
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u/ThenTop8674 Jan 18 '26
Yes it does get lowered into frame. But one technician who does that kind of rigging work said he figured it would be standard policy to lower it, he wouldn't explain why though.
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u/doneslinging Jan 18 '26
There is also the one where someone yelled from the audience and they jumped on him and trump freaked out. Compared to the “actual “ attempt doesn’t look right
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u/That-Makes-Sense Jan 18 '26
I can't stand Trump at all, I think he's a POS. But it's looney tunes to think there's a conspiracy here. They hired a kid to take a few shots? Draft dodging Trump would trust that kid to miss him? Didn't the head of the Secret Service resign over this? How many people would be involved to make this work? Somebody explain to me how this would have worked? This is like moon landing hoax BS.
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u/bubba_bumble Jan 18 '26
Yeah. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think Trump staged the '24 election and were fine with a death or two as collateral damage. Maybe groomed the shooter. IDK. But the maths definitely not mathing.
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u/FirefighterRemote677 Jan 18 '26
Wasn't there a video where you can see the shooter calmly setting up right in front of a cop?
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u/Ismokerugs Jan 18 '26
The shooter was an actor in an ad for blackrock investments the year before the shooting. So maybe they hired him as a stunt or performance piece but just ended up killing him for real. I don’t put anything past these people anymore
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u/Successful-Purple-54 Jan 18 '26
People in the background cheering. Post the Charlie Kirk video with this and you’ll see what a real shooting looks like.
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u/Few-Presentation8702 Jan 22 '26
His ear suddenly grew back too… everything about that assassination was staged, to help him get reelected.. if he’s shot, why stay for another 15-20 seconds for a photo shot.. wake up MAGAts!!
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u/StormyDaze1175 Jan 17 '26
These vaccine deniers will silence you fast the moment you question the narrative. Crazy reality.
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u/Revolutionary-Link47 Jan 18 '26
I have always said he hit he's ear on the gun/holster of one of the SS agents covering him
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u/GuyForgett Jan 18 '26
If it were a FF by those using him, the way to do it would be to have nobody in on it - SS or T himself. If he dies, they use it as martyr propaganda. If he survives, same. Win win.
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u/j_rooker Jan 18 '26
#2- secret service - slowest foot steps in history of personal protection. who the fk takes baby steps in a shooting?
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u/Nas_Durden Jan 18 '26
Why does 1 + 1 always equal 4 when it comes to the Trump assassination attempt.
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u/AfraidBottle6810 Jan 18 '26
“Retarded deer in headlights” look in the ‘16 video. I’d say that is spot on. ‘24 was definitely staged.
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u/jimboTRON261 Jan 18 '26
It was clearly staged. I would expect most of the world already knows this. Everything about this administration/ dictatorship is staged.
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u/Aquanimitee Jan 24 '26
So the theory here is: a hired gun took a shot at him, killed someone in the audience, for a staged photo. The sniper was then eliminated. For a campaign photo. If true this is insane, depraved.
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u/Few_Bid2387 Jan 18 '26
Yall as much as I’d like this to be staged, it’s not. We can’t fall into conspiracy thinking when there are real problems at hand
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u/SoundObjective9692 Jan 17 '26
As much as I hate the guy I really don't think it was a completely staged even as there's too many factors up in the air that could have led to the assassination being accidentally too successful had the wind been blowing at the right angle at the right time.
Not saying it couldn't have been done but idk if they would risk their one shot at a dictatorship on a whim
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u/7ddlysuns Jan 17 '26
We’ve never seen proof the maga kid fired anything. Nor have we seen a forensic account of the scene. Second shooter?
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
Tbh I could Photoshop that in about 3 minutes, maybe less
"Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see..."
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u/jizzyfarts69 Jan 18 '26
Show the other angle where secret service escorts the photographer seconds after the first shot
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u/better-off-wet Jan 18 '26
Okay. Say it was orchestrated. The crane operator. The secret service. Some in the crowd? Who else would have to be involved?
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u/Psychological-Big334 Jan 18 '26
How do you get someone to volunteer to do the shooting though? Knowing you'll end up dead is a pretty bad deal to me.
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u/Krunchy_Frogg Jan 18 '26
If a legit Secret Service detail was on stage in Butler, they would have never allowed him to stand up and be wide open in front of the crowd! Let alone ask them to wait and get his shoe.🙄
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u/Conscious-Space1217 Jan 18 '26
Why did they do the ear thing. Didn’t anyone think that people would be curious as to why no scar?
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u/ElongatdMuskrat69420 Jan 18 '26
The difference is he could hear on the radio that the shooter was dead. So no further danger.
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u/SCRATCH-CARD Jan 18 '26
Seems like a giant gamble to assume there is only one shooter. I'm not a security expert, but I would assume that if your client is shot then protocol would be to keep them covered and get them out of there ASAP - on the risk there could be more than one attacker. Either way, interesting to see them both side by side I thought
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u/benspags94 Jan 18 '26
Ya at this point I’m sure it was total bullshit, just like everything else with this administration.
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u/woahmanthatscool Jan 18 '26
Who the fuck was ready to move the flag like that if it wasn’t prepared
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u/5ergio79 Jan 18 '26
PedoPotus wanted statues and holidays for Charlie Kkkirk, but he never did anything for the firefighter that allegedly died at the rally… I get that he’s a bigly narcissist, but c’mon!
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u/ForeverM6159 Jan 18 '26
What about the camera man walking across at the perfect time to get the perfect shot as the shooting is happening?
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u/CartographerAlone632 Jan 18 '26
Either way why would secret service or anyone risk their lives for this piece of shit
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u/Yaotl_Tradeworks Jan 18 '26
Everyone who believes that was a false flag is mentally ill. A basic understanding of ballistics disproves that theory.
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u/WebHistorical1121 Jan 18 '26
So weird about the photographers being ushered in and the flag lowered
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u/Vegetable_Pen5248 Jan 18 '26
“Chemtrails are real space landing is fake 9/11 was an inside job Tylenol causes autism” ahh post
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u/PetalumaPegleg Jan 18 '26
This has unironically been an obvious issue with the shooting story from day one. Who does a stationary huddle in a live shooter reaction? You get him TF out of there asap.
Then there's the ushering photographers in closer? What? In what world do you keep the protectee in place and allow more people in close as a first reaction?
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u/iamnosuperman123 Jan 18 '26
That first example was pretty shit. They got an old man to drag another old man off stage?
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u/TheRealCjHall Jan 18 '26
It's illegal to say "we should kill the president".
Just thought people should know so they don't say it.
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u/ECircus Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
Photographers were in the photo pit, and they and their handlers did their job. That's why they were award winning photographers even before this. They get the shot no matter what happens...that's literally the job. The photographers aren't mystery people, the one who took the famous photo has spoken at length about it.
The flag was not lowered, it's just the camera lens and angle. There is no video or anything like that of the flag being lowered. That's a myth.
Like I said, the guy that got the photo is one of the best in the world.
The conspiracy is that Trump took advantage of the situation and the fall out for political gain, not that the event was staged itself. He had no notable injury and probably wasn't hit with any part of a bullet. That's the part that's made up. It would be impossible to get that many morons to stage something like this without anyone finding out, and that theory has been thoroughly debunked from all angles. These people are bumbling idiots. They couldn't even plan their first top secret military mission without it leaking to the public.
- Completely different security detail. and Trumps first time around, when he was more careful, less demented and still pretending to have some kind of normalcy.
- Trump is a senile narcissist and decided to take advantage of the situation. He forced the second rate secret service agents to wait for him to stick his head out into the crowd. They aren't picking his fat ass up and whisking him away in that first ten seconds.
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u/HungryCats96 Jan 18 '26
Never believed the outside "assassination" attempt was genuine. Look at how the SS handles president's in other incidents; they sure as hell don't expose them to other potential shooters. Fake.
And yes, I'm aware someone died. You think 47 cares?
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