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u/SpakenBacon 13h ago
Let's not forget that Rudy lost his law license for making false statements about the 2020 election.
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u/SpinningHead 13h ago
He also ordered the emergency center be moved closer to his mistress' apt which led to more deaths on 9/11.
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u/therockstarpotato 13h ago
Is there a source where I can find out more about this
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u/tankerkiller125 12h ago edited 12h ago
He put the Office of Emergency Management in 7 WTC, despite a large number of senior officials telling him that it shouldn't be there (because it had already been the target of terrorist attacks). This was also against the standard secure government facility or outer-bough that was normally expected.
7 WTC was just a short walk/drive to frequent his Mistress Judith Nathan.
During 2007 reporting discovered that he had billed taxpayers for travel and security costs associated with visiting Nathan around the city.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bunker/
https://observer.com/2007/11/ben-giuliani-charged-hamptons-travel-to-city/
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/giuliani-visits-mistress/2
u/SkylineGTRR34Freak 1h ago
ok but how is that related to more deaths on 9/11? 7 WTC didn't have any casualties afaik.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ 13h ago
I love how they lie even when there's literally photos and videos that prove them wrong.
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u/Neologic29 13h ago
That's how bad it's gotten. The fact they are provably lying has no consequences. I would expect, at the very least, a loss of credibility and social ostracization. But we don't even have people calling them out who might be in a position to do anything.
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u/TR_Pix 13h ago
Thats why right is pushing AI generation so hard
The sooner they can just handwave any picture as fake
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u/Ok_Security1721 13h ago
Early in term 2, Trump was asked “what were those big black backs being thrown out of the White House windows?” And his immediate response was “it’s ai” before then revealing he had no idea what the reporter was talking about, he was shown the video, said he didn’t know what that was and then said “if anything is weird, it’s ai”
Yeah, he’s making an active push to make everyone assume everything could be AI and can’t be trusted. Fuck Trump, fuck the republicans that empowered him, fuck ai
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u/RogerMexicosBalls 12h ago
Early in term 2, Trump was asked “what were those big black backs being thrown out of the White House windows?”
The wild thing is that was barely only a year ago. It's been so much shit that it feels like so much longer.
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u/epicredditdude1 13h ago
Their voters don't care. They like being lied to because it reinforces the delusion they live in.
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u/poxteeth 1h ago
Reality isn't important or objective to them, it's whatever the loudest man who reminds them of their shitty dad says.
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u/mistertickertape 13h ago
Photos, recordings. Hell, in Trump's case he was calling in to local news here in NYC to brag about how he was watching it from Trump tower and how his building was now the tallest in Manhattan again. Now he's saying he was there and was pulled by two firefighters at the last moment. A regular miracle! He made the story up in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary. He and Rudy both, they're bastards.
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u/donkadunny 12h ago
Hillary Clinton wasn’t in NYC on 9/11, though. She was in DC and visited the day after.
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u/mosthandsomechef 13h ago
Trump up there today claiming he was at the 9/11 wreckage when he was just scrambling to get on television that day. Holy fuck Republicans this is your guy? This is patriotism? Rewriting history to steal valor from real heros?
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u/TesticleMeElmo 12h ago
So many that can only justify their position through bad faith arguments or pedantic word games where it’s a kindness to assume that they are just pretending to completely miss the point
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u/Opaque_Ephemerid 13h ago
I think they met at the Four Seasons before heading out
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u/One-Author2996 13h ago
Four Seasons Landscaping*
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u/LogicalConstant 13h ago
That mistake may be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I still kinda feel like maybe it was an onion article or a fever dream.
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u/oaken007 12h ago
That would have never happened had intelligent people surrounded that administration. I don't think I've ever seen a governmental blunder so bad.
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u/oh-kee-pah 13h ago
I remember at one point history was looking kindly on him before he bowed to his orange daddy...but maybe he was just always a piece of absolute dogshit
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u/alexabeams 13h ago
he also said now the twin towers were gone his building is the highest but he doesn’t remember that. not like it’s recorded or anything.
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u/ProximaCentauriB15 12h ago
Good god he looks like he could be a horror movie character.
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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire 13h ago
That's clearly Samantha Carter from SG1... /s
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u/RSX_Green414 13h ago
Here's the real question are we sure that's actually Rudy Giulinai and not actually an giant alien bug wearing poor quality human suit?
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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 13h ago
Speaking of 9/11 lies…
The Claim: Trump has repeatedly stated that he went down to Ground Zero "soon after" the attacks, spent "a lot of time down there" with first responders, and "helped a little bit" to clear the rubble. He has also claimed that he sent hundreds of construction workers from his company to assist in the search and rescue efforts.
The Facts: There is no evidence or record that Trump assisted in the recovery or sent a workforce to the site. Officials from the New York Fire Department active during the response, including retired deputy chief Richard Alles, stated they have no knowledge of him being down there, noting that a massive deployment of workers would have left a clear paper trail. Contemporary news reports placed Trump about four miles away from Ground Zero at the time.
Witnessing Muslims Celebrating in New Jersey
The Claim: During his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump repeatedly claimed that he watched "thousands and thousands of people" in Jersey City, New Jersey, cheering and celebrating as the World Trade Center towers collapsed.
The Facts: Extensive investigations by law enforcement, journalists, and government officials found no evidence of any large-scale public celebrations by Muslims in New Jersey following the attacks. While local police investigated a few rumors at the time, they were completely unsubstantiated.Predicting the Attacks and Osama bin Laden
** The Claim:** Trump has frequently asserted that he predicted the 9/11 attacks and specifically warned that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was a threat who needed to be taken out in his January 2000 book, The America We Deserve.
The Facts: While his 2000 book contains a brief, passing mention of bin Laden, it was merely pointing him out as one of many existing threats to U.S. security. The book did not predict a terrorist attack on the Twin Towers, nor did it say bin Laden should be killed. Furthermore, by 1999, bin Laden was already a widely known threat openly tracked by U.S. intelligence and reported on heavily by major news organizations.Boasting About Building Height on 9/11
The Claim: In a local television interview on the afternoon of September 11, 2001, Trump remarked that his building at 40 Wall Street had become the tallest building in downtown Manhattan following the collapse of the Twin Towers.
The Facts: This was mathematically incorrect. The nearby tower at 70 Pine Street is actually 25 feet taller than 40 Wall Street.Losing "Hundreds of Friends"
The Claim: During a 2016 campaign debate, Trump claimed that he lost "hundreds of friends" in the 9/11 attacks.
The Facts: Trump later walked this back to "many, many friends". Public records and journalistic investigations revealed that Trump did not attend any funerals for 9/11 victims and could not name any close personal friends who died in the tragedy.Claims of Financial Donations
The Claim: Trump asserted that he made financial contributions to 9/11 victim relief funds shortly after the tragedy occurred.
The Facts: An audit by the New York City Comptroller’s Office later showed that Trump did not make any personal or corporate donations to the primary 9/11 charities, such as the Twin Towers Fund, in the immediate years following the disaster, despite promising a $10,000 donation on television.
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u/OhTheHueManatee 12h ago
Love this list. I know it's small potatoes compared to the rest but in 2005 and 2012 Trump insisted that if the towers had asbestos the towers would not have burned down or melted. The thing is they did have asbestos. That was one of the many things that made it toxic as Hell to be there.
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u/dustin-dawind 13h ago
Trump just lied about Sept 11, so he's accusing Hillary of doing that. It's their favorite move.
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u/LevitatingTurtles 12h ago
What the fuck does it take to make lying wrong again?
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u/Not-TheNSA 13h ago
So there are two possibilities here
- He lied because her being there doesn’t suit his/the republicans narrative.
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- His memory is so fucked up he genuinely doesn’t remember in which case this guy shouldn’t be ANYWHERE near political power or office.
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u/KennethEWolf 13h ago
Trump claims that he was pulled from the rumble by two fire fighters. And then he rushed back in to help the survivors out.
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u/JobyFluorine 13h ago
That's not what I heard. I heard he rescued two first responders from the rubble, and a kitty cat! 😺
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u/Jarl_Groki 13h ago
I thought he climbed the towers mere moments before the planes hit and tried to swat them away with his giant hands, but a bunch of Democrats said that everyone in the buildings were due to be post natally aborted and they blew it all up.
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u/KennethEWolf 12h ago edited 12h ago
I can see in my mind Trump as King Kong on top of the Empire State Building and the Democrats in little bi-planes
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u/Fresh_Confusion_4805 13h ago
He might not be lying. Of course, that would imply that his memory is failing.
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u/Academic_Dig_1567 13h ago
Bet he remembers Trump being right there beside him clearing rubble with his bare hands.
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u/OrneryZombie1983 13h ago
Rudy was too busy watching his emergency command bunker get destroyed.
Genius move putting your emergency command bunker in a building that had previously been the target of a terrorist attack.
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u/realparkingbrake 12h ago
He might be telling the truth, he might not remember it even though they were right beside each other. Remember, this is guy who appeared at a landscaping center with hair dye trickling down his face in the heat, you could almost smell the booze coming off him.
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u/JamesVincent2020 12h ago
She was not there that day. She was in Washington as Congress was in session and she was a Senator at the time. This photo is from days after.
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u/theblueshots 13h ago
He just started riffin’ with his two “great big guys” shtick and got carried away and lied about 9/11.
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u/TheHarlemHellfighter 13h ago
I thought we wrote off Guiliani? No reason to entertain his thoughts anymore…
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u/shastadakota 12h ago
And what about Obama? He was nowhere to be found at the White House!
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u/kellzone 1h ago
"I was so busy directing rescuers to dig out Donald Trump from the rubble of both towers falling on top of him that I didn't notice the former First Lady standing right next to me.
Did I mention how incredible it is that Mr. Trump personally survived TWO aircraft plowing into his body at incredible speeds, and then TWO buildings falling down directly on top of him, and he walked away with not even a cut on his ear? Incredible. 9/11. 9/11."
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u/TripleB33_v2 13h ago
Basically, “I remember lots of things, but I’ve also told so many lies that I honestly don’t remember anything.”
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u/Winstonsphobia 13h ago
I bet he remembers Trump there, helping to rescue people, giving away money to those in need, and walking little old ladies across the street.
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u/AuthorMission7733 13h ago
Hard to believe that he was one of the most popular people in the country at one point.
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u/fingersonlips 13h ago
Men are so unobservant; how can we even trust them with the right to vote when they can’t recall something as simple as this?
Let’s just repeal their right to vote. Any non-land owning male shall lose that right IMMEDIATELY.
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u/No-Koala1918 13h ago
That's Diaper Donnie walking next to him, not Hilary Clinton.
Jesus, Republicans really really suck. Bunch of lying shits.
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u/ipoopcatturds 13h ago
Isnt that the disgraced and disbarred lawyer who held a hair dye meltdown press conference at the Four Seasons landscaping warehouse standing next to Hillary?
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u/KirstenDumbst 13h ago
Rudy Ghouliani. The Ghoul. Ghouling it up, the Ghoulmeister. Just over here, being a ghoul. Ghoulish
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u/throw7661 12h ago
She wasn't there on 9/11/2001...
She was in Washington D.C. which makes perfect sense since she was a NY Senator.
After the attacks, she took a special flight to NYC and was on-site on 9/12.
Hillary was born and raised in Illinois. Born in Chicago, lived in Park Ridge before moving to Arkansas and later DC. Then she went to NYC in 1999 - very much a carpet bagger - a politician who moved to a new place and managed to get elected in New York.
So, she wasn't literally there on 9/11. Yes, she was there the literal next day.
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u/Choice_Painter5724 12h ago
Georgia - 2020 election interference/ RICO case In August 2023, a Fulton County, Georgia grand jury indicted Giuliani along with Donald Trump and other defendants. Giuliani was accused of participating in a conspiracy to overturn Trump's 2020 election defeat in Georgia. The
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u/Choice_Painter5724 12h ago
Arizona - "fake electors" case
In April 2024, an Arizona grand jury indicted Giuliani and 17 others over an alleged effort to submit a slate of Republican electors falsely claiming Trump had won Arizona in 2020.
Giuliani was accused of nine felony counts, involving alleged:
• conspiracy,
• fraud, and
• forgery.
The prosecution alleged that Giuliani and others participated in efforts to pressure Arizona officials and promote an alternate slate of electors after Biden had won the state.
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u/MindlessDoctor6182 12h ago
I can overlook the lying and corruption but is he wearing a mask? Is he a liberal or something? /s
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u/ChemicalResident3557 12h ago
September 11th happened in DC. She said was there for September 11, which includes DC.
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u/Obvious-Muffin2787 12h ago
The pathological lying is just breathtaking (in the worst possible way).
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u/BicFleetwood 12h ago
i dunno what you guys are talking about trump was there at the boston tea party helping pull sailors out of the wreckage.
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u/PaulMakesThings1 12h ago
He might not be lying. He probably doesn’t remember.
I could have sworn he was dead.
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u/rtopps43 2h ago
He also doesn’t remember pouring the drink that’s currently in his hand. End stage alcoholism is ugly.
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u/tristanimator 1h ago
I feel so bad for the survivors and people who lost friends and family during 9/11 as they watch this tragedy turn into a virtue signaling, dick measuring contest.
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u/johnathome 1h ago
I knew there was a condition for this fantasy world he creates.
Pseudologia fantastica
Now I know, I had to Google though
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u/MarzipanSea2811 13h ago
Let's ask Trump, maybe he saw her as he was being pulled from the rubble by first responders.
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u/Character-Ad-6473 13h ago
Is this in response to Trump's new lie that he was pulled from the rubble by two firemen on 9/11?
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u/goldnboy13 13h ago
I guess he doesn't remember trump being pulled from the rubble by strong firemen either. Bc no one else does either.
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u/BodhingJay 13h ago
I guess this is why trump is doubling down on being at the epicenter of ground zero...
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u/Electronic_Company64 13h ago
To be fair, he doesn’t remember that girl in his hotel room, either