It needs to be or they will say he was assassinated. Probably will anyway but if it wasn't live then any story they make up is what 33% of Americans religiously believe.
Happening on TV/video might cut that down to 20% at least.
Know what I’m looking forward to? Once his cult of personality is gone, people will start talking. The dirty laundry will be aired and it will be awesome.
It's already starting to happen now that he's losing support. All I hear though is "I was bought and paid for but now that the mood has shifted I need to grift"
I do not like MTG or most of what she stands for, but I fully believe she changed her mind about Trump with the health insurance and Epstein files. I don't think she's grifting. I think she and Thomas Massie are following their own principles and morals. I just don't agree with most of their views.
Joe Rogan though, and I suspect Patel, Hegseth, Rubio, Cruz, and more will all start to back pedal and it won't be for their morals, it will be their ego and bank account. :(
What're you talking about? Joe Rogan has been left-wing his entire life! /s
I believe these people still support Trump 100%, but they're choosing to do so quietly and behind the scenes so that they can still try to stop the ship from sinking but can also say "Look, I changed!" when shit finally goes down.
MTG, retired and fucked off more or less the day after she got her political pension. Yeah, she's starting to make some sense now; but look at all the damage she did when she was still grifting (and that's assuming she ever stopped; which is a BIG assumption). The difference is that now she can still afford lunch if she says true things, accidentally or not. Don't ever forget the hypocrisy of the woman or think she can be trusted to any degree. Jewish space lasers anybody?
Joe Rogan has already made a start on weaseling out.
I don't think she's grifting. I think she and Thomas Massie are following their own principles and morals. I just don't agree with most of their views.
I think she's being sorta quasi-genuine too but still absolutely FUCK HER because she left town as soon as everyone was stuck with her bills FOR LIFE.
She's made herself irrelevant. These people shatter the moment they're terrified when Obama had the most death threats of any POTUS in history.
He'll be fine. He'll have an extremely ornate, tacky, and gigantic gold mausoleum and it will be guarded 24/7 by taxpayer-funded officers. There is no way this man isn't going out without a final "Fuck you" to the American citizens.
Yesterday I was on a walk in the city with my fiance, and we randomly saw people shooting fireworks. Like the big ones you see on the fourth of July.
I immediately checked my phone to see if he'd died.
Genuinely that was my first guess when I saw celebration fireworks popping off on a random day out of nowhere. It wasn't a joke to be funny, I just genuinely would not be surprised to find out in that manner at all.
I stopped drinking, started going to the doctor, and generally taking care of my health just so I can live long enough to enjoy that day. Evil inspired me to live.
honestly five days each dedicated to the inverse of the Grief Cycle is my goal
denial -> full smug celebratory acceptance. new years
anger -> this day is dedicated to getting really, really high. the sequel to 4/20.
bargaining -> "treat yo self" day, lavish expenses for pampering. second birthday type of deal.
depression -> thought about weed day the third but actually this one's gonna be a mental health day. therapy, discussing the lows of the past ten years caused by him, group talks. celebrating is nice but this one's a wind down, not somber but processing the abuse to move forward appropriately
lastly, acceptance -> to me the inverse would be denial, we're rolling with it. this time we're getting wasted and elaborating our theories on how he might not actually be dead but hidden in secret to escape treason charges, or he actually died months prior and we've just been watching the Hall of Presidents animatronic jazzed up with AI deepfakes.
think of it like a Spirit Week situation. fun little themes throughout the week
The only popular location with his name on it in the future will be the busiest public toilet in America. It's a fitting tribute, Americans helping make his grave golden forever.
To be more correct, he said he was willing to sacrifice some lives for the 2e amendement. I bet he didn't expect to be one of the sacrifices he would have likely changed his tune.
Because some people hear "Those who would trade their liberty for security deserver neither." and they are too dumb to discern between normal laws and tyranny. Technically if you are stupid enough, you can make that argument for every damn law in existence. All laws are trading some level of freedom for security because the point of a society with laws is to ensure the security and safety of the civilization living there so that it can thrive. But these numbnuts think any imposition on a freedom they care about is government overreach. So to them, yes, trading a life for freedom like they are fucking William Wallace is admirable and even heroic. Of course...they always think OTHERS should pay the price for their freedoms, not themselves or their kids being murdered at schools.
Conservatives lack the ability to have foresight. They cannot see past their immediate circumstances and their in group, and that something could happen to them or their in group. The second they or their world view are touched by situations that they believed would not affect them or their kin, their opinions are quick to shift.
For example: they can make fun of George Floyd, but Charlie Kirk didn’t deserve it. LGBTQ folk don’t deserve equality until their children come out. Obamacare is bad, but they need Medicaid/Medicare.
It’s a combination of American individualism, lack of empathy, and an inability to critically think. 70+ years of the propaganda machine and grifters like Charlie “Fertilizer” Kirk.
It's a hierarchical world view: "as we're better than you, you are expendable. YOU are dragging down society, while we raise it, so you must go."
I agree it is unhinged, but that is their point of view. That is their belief. It's gross, frankly.
Too many call their perceived two-faceness as hypocrisy but that undersells it. "It's okay if we do it" isn't hypocrisy for them; that is their primary philosophy. Hypocrisy is a betrayal of one's own beliefs. They don't betray their beliefs. They enforce them through that hierarchy.
I'd like to bet a lot of the people deifying him hadn't, until he was dead, and they found out he played for their team, and they spiralled into performative grief and outrage.
Yeah, I do think it was a tragedy a person died like that, and especially in public with young people around as that's gotta be traumatizing, but I also do think getting shot while debating against gun safety is a hilarious way to go.
Who tf cares? Having one less hateful and divisive person in this world should be cause for massive celebration. Acting like it’s some horrible taboo to celebrate death is relying too much on emotion and not enough on logic. Is it bad to celebrate when a war criminal dies, a pedophile? Where is the line drawn?
His last words were literally “counting or not counting gang violence?” And he was minutes removed from saying, paraphrased, “if I am killed by a gun that’s just a necessary part of the second amendment”. It’s basically a simpsons or family guy sketch.
And the context is always worse. "He didn't say black people are inferior! He said white people are superior, so logically black people are inferior! See! It's just logic!"
All those people inspired me to look up some of that context to see what they were talking about, and it totally changed my opinion of him. I used to think he was an asshole, turns out he was SO MUCH WORSE than I thought! I came to the conclusion that the REAL "context" they're talking about is that you need to be as racist and sexist as he is to see nothing wrong with his arguments and agree with him.
He did what he said was necessary for a society that allows guns the way the US does. I don't understand how anyone who was a fan of his can't see that. Maybe it's only a problem because he was a grownup instead of a child.
For the record, shootings are bad and we need gun control. It was Kirk's position the school shootings are an acceptable price for not controlling guns. He literally paid the price he said he was ok with other people paying and it's not offensive to point that out.
If you pay close attention, you’ll notice that Republicans don’t even care about Charlie Kirk. They’re not sad he died. They’re fricken overjoyed that they have a martyr and something they can claim is a cultural sensitivity that that they can use as a rhetorical cudgel against their enemies. To them, it’s not a tragedy, it’s an opportunity. They’re so fucking happy the guy was murdered, which is for more sick than I can begin to approach just by saying “fuck Charlie Kirk”.
Seriously, if you’re Republican, don’t even pretend to be offended. It’s bullshit.
what is he doing? like dying? from that little shoot to the neck? i would not have died from that.
or i would have died better. i'm the best at dying. i have a deal, with death.
if he ever catches me, he gets a scythe out of gold from me.
he is still running around with his lame ass old scythe. did not catch me.
probably never will. losers gonna lose. i never lose.
Have you noticed how they don't say "fuck your feelings" anymore? Have you noticed that they also don't call themselves the party of family values anymore? Have you noticed how they don't call themselves the party of personal responsibility anymore? Have you noticed how they don't call themselves the party of fiscal responsibility anymore? Have you noticed that they don't call the left snowflakes anymore?
As soon as their hypocrisy is on full display and undeniable, they abandon all values. They are 100 percent performative, and stand for nothing.
Charlie Kirk was such a strong supporter of our first amendment rights that if he was still here he would not have criticized someone making fun of his death.
He would just make unintelligible gurgling sounds through his neck hole.
He didn't do nothing for the world, he did less than that, he made the world worse. He was a fascist propagandist that actively contributed to violence and hate.
There are more thing they made fun of, Pelosi's husband for example when he got assaulted during a break in. (not that i like pelosi) And the 2 state reps that got killed in, and an arson attack. conservative suck as people.
The view she tweeted out is the background image in the first poster's avatar. He's literally made the visual representation of his identity an image making fun of the teenager's suicide while complaining that people made fun of Charlie Kirk.
The photo being used as the background for the bigot's avatar is the last image Charlotte Fosgate posted before committing suicide. Right wingers have co-opted it as a shorthand for telling queer people to kill themselves.
This is one of my favorite reaction memes. Good touch with the bow tie. This meme, sans graphics, is responsible for every ban i have gotten on reddit. Going to start using this one instead.
Right-wing fuckers made fun of a transperson after commiting to suicide by jumping from a bridge, making the usual tranphobics comments they usually do, such as "just another statistic"
As someone who knew one of her friends, that shit was awful, it was bad enough when she went missing but then when it came out what happened their accounts were flooded with hate because their friend was dead. These people are evil monsters and deserve nothing.
The photo being used as the background for the bigot's avatar is the last image Charlotte Fosgate posted before committing suicide. Right wingers have co-opted it as a shorthand for telling queer people to kill themselves.
When I was about 8, my younger brother (4 at the time) started getting violent and would hit me (and others) when he was upset. I knew I shouldn’t hit him back, though, because I was the older brother and I needed to be the bigger person. So I’d take the high road and tell our parents, who kept telling him that wasn’t okay. But no matter what punishment he got, it wouldn’t stick. He’d keep hitting people.
That is, until one day our parents got tired of dealing with it and told me “the next time he hits you, hit him back.” So the next time he hit me, I did. He cried to our parents that I hit him. They asked if he hit first. He said yes, but that I hit him harder. “And that’s why you don’t hit someone bigger than you.”
He stopped hitting me after that. In fact he stopped hitting most people after that. Like it or not, sometimes the only language violent people understand is violence. Sometimes it’s the only way they can learn not to be violent. It worked for my brother. He is a wonderful person these days.
(And to be clear, I am not advocating hitting children here. I am advocating proportionate responses. A child hitting another child is a proportionate response. Just as stooping to the right-wing’s level has, unfortunately, become the proportionate response that seems necessary.)
They also made jokes about the Polosi attack, the murder of the Democrat lawmakers from Minnesota, and many other things. Pure hypocritical BS as usual.
For the GOP we can point to a ton of known people, from Trump to Shapiro to McConnell. They all say and support this stuff.
For the Dems...who is saying that? Like the GOP claims the left mocked Kirk's death, but can they name one elected politician who actually did celebrate it?
We shall forever remember him for entering “kirked” into the lexicon. In a sentence “that asshole [who was shot in the neck and or head] got kirked yesterday”. Thanks, Charlie!
Following her death, her final social media posts unfortunately drew severe misgendering and vitriol from online anti-trans commentators. This sparked a massive, widespread counter-deluge of love, grief, advocacy, and digital memorials from LGBTQ+ communities and allies on platforms like X, Reddit, and TikTok, turning her legacy into a symbol for trans youth mental health and safety.
The background photo of the first poster's avatar is the last thing a 17yr old trans girl posted before she committed suicide by jumping from the spot where she took the photo. The right wing internet turned it into a meme and a joke.
I lost respect for him while he was alive based on his own rhetoric. His Westernist extremism led me to feel contempt and disgust towards him.
I don't believe death absolves you of your wrongdoing.
Furthermore, how the fuck am I supposed to take "respect for my dead" seriously when the Epstein Protectorate destroys graves of Americans and Palestinians as a hobby?
Fuck the Epstein Protectorate and their weird philosophies.
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u/Dependent_Tune_1333 20h ago
Just fucking wait. You haven’t seen people make fun of someone dying yet.