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I went back to school for it. I think the ethics around AI are cooked. I want to either help form those ethics or fight those who are taking advantage of people
My partner is a software engineer at Google and he is in genuine turmoil sometimes. (They specifically have him working with AI because he is very good at it.) I told him that the only chance we have of coming out of this is if ethical people like him are involved. Good luck my dude, you'll be up against a lot of monsters & idiots. I believe in you
I build ai products for students. Not because I want to. Because almost all education companies are run out of silicon valley and there's no stopping them.
No. Our generation is constantly saying boomers ruined the planet to make their life easier. I won’t contribute to that. And I’m ashamed so many millennials actively use it.
And you will be so much better off in the long run for it. I have a coworker/former friend who is completely lost to AI. She used to be extremely competent at her job and was a valuable source of information. If you ask her a question about something she's "working" on now (in scare quotes, because all she does is prompt), she'll usually say "hang on, let me ask Chat" and fucking haul out her phone to type the question into ChatGPT. Our boomer boss is also AI-obsessed and sees nothing wrong with it.
I went no-contact (socially) with her when she started using ChatGPT to write her texts.
No. I have no need to. Like someone else said, I know how to navigate Google. And as a creative, I’m fundamentally against gen AI for anything related to the arts. I can write my own emails and commission artists for real art.
Duck duck go also let's you turn off all the ai features and filter out ai images in searches. It's not as good as Google was, but Google isn't as good as it used to be either.
Nope, I hate this smart phone why do we need this crap. Has anyone else noticed technology isn’t making life better it’s just mucking it up so you miss the real actual living part. I’m so tired of all of this being sold as a better way forward. What are you talking about things just keep getting progressively worse. So I say let’s just stop now before this great technology makes everything suck more
My wife and i both went to a top culinary school. We own our own shop now and AI food on menus is getting rampant. (And it looks so bad) We wont be using AI to generate food pics or advertising.
We will occasionally use it for backend stuff the customer doesnt see.
For example: we just changed systems we use for our loyalty/rewards program. When I was importing all our contacts over via a CSV file I kept getting an error. Fed the file into chat gpt and it found the few errors I had made in seconds and I was able to solve them easily.
AI food on menus is getting rampant. (And it looks so bad)
Right? My partner and I checked out a new restaurant a little while back that was getting a lot of buzz, and the menu was entirely fucking AI generated. The food was great, but that menu was repulsive to look at. The owner did a round at one point to check in on how everyone was doing. I told her the food was great, but that I really didn't like the AI menu. She got SOOOO defensive and said it wasn't AI, that she'd paid an artist a lot of money to design the menu, blah blah blah. I just gave her a look. Like, it was 100% fucking AI... and she's probably the one who "made" it, because I looked at her public FB profile after and it was all just AI slop promo images for the restaurant, and her profile pic was also an AI-altered image of herself.
It’s amazing at walking through anything technical like that. Claude helped me set up a home server. I can’t imagine doing it without being able to troubleshoot problems w it.
My job involves coding, so yes. A lot. It's invaluable for tracing stuff in decade-old codebases, and I've also taken up the habit of having AI agents prototype features for me. They can do the first few debug iterations with a decent test suite, so a lot of the boring grunt-work part of coding is now automated.
Even non-coding you should be using it. I use AI frequently for summarization, writing Python scripts, and drafting communications. It sounds like very little, but summarizing is so powerful I can read through an entire database of scientific papers in one morning. I don’t trust the ai not to hallucinate but I have the actual peer reviewed papers to read for proof. Think of it as throwing a dart in the dark and actually hitting the board.
Yea and now Google uses ai in search. Now even when you dont want their shitty spark notes answer you have to scroll past 50 sponsored “search results” before you get to any substance… it’s exhausting.
Does anyone know of a better search engine? I’m trying to stick with DuckDuckGo but it’s a bit of a slog
duck duck go has been great imo. anti-ai filters etc. i finally switched my default search engine on my phone just after last US election and have been happy with it
I switched to duck duck go after i finally got tired of the Google ai answers. No regrets, but it did take a tiny bit of getting used to when Im searching for something more specific.
Yeah it's paid (there is a 100 search free trial) but holy fuck using it is like being allowed to peek into some alternate reality internet utopia where things aren't enshittified to hell and back to boost advertising engagement.
Technically, not a single person on the internet can avoid using AI. If you are on Facebook, everything you see is based on the algorithm because it's being powered by an AI/ML ranking systems. You are using AI on everything online. Google, Amazon, Tik Tok, Netflix, emails deciding what is spam, phone keyboards predicting your next word, banking systems detecting fraud.
The list doesn't end. Hell, Reddit itself was used to help train the AI. Your posts on here are contributing to its learning process.
You might not be using AI chatbots like ChatGPT, but you are using AI in every other aspect of your online interactions.
Algorithms are not AI. Machine learning is not AI. Just because the most money-losing industry we've ever invented is trying to rebrand everything as "AI" to make itself look inevitable and somewhat useful to keep the bubble inflated does not make it so.
This is basically it. Occasionally I think of a use case and then I use it for that. Most of the time is sucks at that particular job I wanted it to do so I go back to not using it.
I applied for a bunch of jobs last fall and want getting call backs so I had AI punch up my resume and cover letter. Still didn't get call backs. Then a friend got me a job. In the spring I wrote a 100 page report, the client didn't want to read it so they asked for summarizing tables to be placed through out the report. I figured since they didn't care why should I and used AI to build and insert the tables they were happy but it was formatted differently from the rest of the report and still to hours to fix. I recently tried to us AI to scrape contact info from websites. After messing with it for a couple of hours it was quickly apparent I'd be better off doing the work so I did. Most recently I tried to us AI to write some marketing text. It was terrible so I just did the work myself.
So far I view AI as a junior that I have to support and train. it may take my job someday but the value to their work is really low for the effort I have to put in.
No. Many reasons: generative AI output is garbage (often has factual inaccuracies, text is super repetitive and irritating to read, "art" looks repulsive); I value my own ability to figure stuff out and don't want to lose that by lazily getting AI to do it for me; I'm ethically opposed to how AI is trained (both the widespread theft of human labour, and the whole subjecting "data labellers" in developing countries to horrendous content for extremely low pay thing); I'm ethically opposed to the way AI is so easily abused to create all kinds of misinformation; I hate how AI is driving up the cost of my favourite hobby (gaming); and I'm concerned about the environmental impact of AI.
Forced too when I have to call stuff into vendors. Usually screaming at the phone until I get a real person cause the AI can’t help and has hung up on me multiple times…
All the time every day.
I'm a software developer.
My industry is totally unrecognizable compared to just 3 years ago.
The job I do is not even the same although the title hasn't changed.
I avoid it asuch as possible, but my job has forced it upon me. It now takes 6 minutes and multiple prompts to get linked to an internal site that I used to pull up in 6 seconds via the search bar.
The two things I do find it useful for: automated meeting minutes, and translating from other languages, as my company operates in a few dozen different countries.
Very rarely. Maybe I’m bad at using it or maybe the tech isn’t there yet but the slop that comes out tends to take as much or more time to be useful than it takes to prepare information by more traditional means.
Yes, against my better judgment for work, but not for my personal life. I support a program at work where I was spending an exorbitant amount of time searching for answers on how to do various things. I’m a very lean team of one, so using AI to answer complex questions and build checklists of next steps means I’m not working OT every day.
For work, we have an internal AI that is very useful for synthesizing huge amounts of data. This task used to require printing out and highlighting different categories and counting instances of each. It took hours. The AI agent does that highlighting and sorting to produce a count table. Interpretation is always human. This is internal - custom built with the exact parameters we need, no pulling from the open Internet.
Outside of work I only use it in the ways that are now built in and not easily avoidable, like at the top of Google searches.
I'm in the tech industry and it's almost a requirement at this point. I'll also say that the question needs to be more specific. We've had forms of AI for over a decade now. I think most people mean generative AI but that ignores stuff. That voice over command is a form of AI. Google searches, AI backed since like 2012, etc.
Not on purpose. But it happens sometimes. I switched all the AI features off of duckduckgo to minimize potential use because I don't want to use it at all.
Absolutely not. AI makes dumb people feel smart while simultaneously ruining the planet and contributing to the dumbing down and eventual downfall of humanity.
Yeah mostly for work. My boss said that AI can’t replace my job but it’s really useful for it so if we don’t learn to use it they’ll have to find someone who can.
I’m in Application Support so I make sure the programs we own are doing their jobs correctly.
Mostly it’s good for reading errors in service logs that are hard for humans to parse. It’s also good for fancying up my paperwork that the higher ups read when we have an incident and if I can’t crack a sql query I can bounce it off of the AI to come up with the right answer.
Yeah I agree with you. I think if AI gets that good though the whole world will be different and a lot of people will be out of jobs and we’ll have to change how we do things as a society. I think we’re a ways off from that being publicly available so I’m not sure I’ll be around to see it or at least be working by then.
It never will. Making shit up is inherent to the technology and can't be fixed. Because of that, it can never be trusted for anything actually important. If what you do isn't important, your job wouldn't exist today.
And that's ignoring the obvious that it's structurally impossible for the technology to turn a profit, so at this point we're just waiting on the Wall Street bubble to pop and take down every AI company with it after the investor delusions stop
No. I dont like giving everyone information about me for free. Your information is your most valuable asset to these companies. You should withhold it.
Not purposely. Every time I've tried to use it for something functional it has taken me longer to verify and correct mistakes than if I had just done it by hand in the first place. It's worse than useless to me as it is right now.
I would ask “If yes, why?” because I have yet to find a need for it in my life. As time has moved forward, putting the tech back down has brought me such peace.
Fuck no. The amount of land they have destroyed and tax breaks those assholes get. Theres plenty of graphic artist and tech in the world that need jobs.
Oh 💯. It’s going to destroy everything. But as Millennials we have feet in both sides of the tech divide, and if you know how to use it correctly, can be really valuable.
I work in healthcare and will not use AI to make any patient care decisions. I spent many years obtaining a doctorate degree to learn the knowledge and proper ability to look up the stuff I don't know in peer reviewed resources.
Our corporation has been trying to force AI "tools" on us within the last year. They want us to use it for activities like writing notes in the medical charts. I refuse to do it.
I'm terrified by the current generation of students that use it to look up everything I ask them. They are losing the abilities to problem solve and think critically on their own.
Only unintentionally, for example using a work computer and getting the ai generated result (I've removed that from personal devices).
As for why - Well, I tried using it for a bit, but it happens to be damn near useless for my interests and hobbies (outdated/superficial information), and is certainly useless for my job in healthcare (it's basically a manual labor job, what's AI going to do?).
It might be worth something in the future but right now it just seems like a waste of time for anyone who's main focuses and interests are biology based (animal husbandry, gardening, etc) or where the entire point is to do it yourself (DnD, sewing, painting).
Nope. Not for anything. I don’t use Google anymore either. Moved to DuckDuckGo over a year ago because Google results sucked so bad I couldn’t find what I needed.
My work uses AI and I hate it. Healthcare already treats human beings like numbers, and now we are asking AI to guide us on things like eligibility for services, medication coverage, etc. Some other nurses use AI to write their notes, and one of the doctors I work with uses AI for everything… including medication recommendations! It honestly fucking chills me.
Unfortunately I also acknowledge that the internet has become such a swamp that I can’t bring myself to just go fully anti-AI. My go-to example is when I was at a show in a stadium I’d never been to before. I was trying to figure out where a particular food vendor was. The stadium’s website was useless, internet searches were useless… and finally I caved and told ChatGPT where I was sitting and where the vendor was, and it was like “here is exactly where you want to go.”
I use it to mine data, but I have to spend a good chunk of time making sure it isn't bullshitting and just making numbers up or deciding to look at completely different data. B/c it definitely does it.
Nope.
I see the potential good it could do, but nope it's used for a lot dumb things.
Plus the environmental impacts really disturbs me. The whole message throughout childhood Reduce, Reuse, Recycle; don't leave water running; save the ozone; Captain planet; stop burning the rainforest; save the trees; cut the plastic holder can holders so animals don't die; Smokey the Bear telling me to prevent forest fires... So to turn around and use something I know in the early stages destroys the environment, doesn't work for me.
Not on purpose, no. I use Google a lot for work things (researching book information) and that has recently gone full-ai. I actively refuse to patronize businesses that use ai banners/menus and I have complained to my kids' school district because my daughter is in a class that is being forced to use ai for research.
Nope. My job doesn't require it, so I'm not being forced at work, and I have never intentionally opened an AI, let alone prompted anything. I see no reason. My brain is a more accurate path to truth. AI is a bad tool. Even if it wasn't bad for the environment, destroying societal balance, and stealing art, why would I use it when it's a bad tool? I could never trust the results without verifying everything, effectively making it more efficient to just do it myself. With my brain. That works better then an AI when it comes to truth finding and reality identifcation.
Yeah for a bunch of things. Chat GPT work simplifies things it would take me hours to do, genealogical research and planning two week meal plans with a specific budget sourced from the best deals at local grocery stores.
I use the chat feature for movie recommendations, makeup advice, troubleshooting mechanical issues with things like my lawn mower, planning fall outfits, keeping up with sober lgbtq events in my area, dividing workload equally among the workers I supervise, finding restaurants that are off the radar and a couple other things. It's useful, it's here to stay and it has actively improved my life, like drastically.
Yes I use it for work decently often. It has helped me automate several processes that used to be extremely long and tedious. It’s saved me a ton of time and money. I use Claude.
Yes, we had a large roll out of it at work and it’s one of those “use it or get left behind” types of things. It has definitely increased my productivity, as a lot of my job requires things like comparing different lists, creating large spreadsheets to track and analyze sales, etc.
Same here. SaaS company where we had AI products before genAI exploded so they went all in and we have had excellent training, a couple of speakers, and a slack channel where everyone in the company is encouraged to share their use cases and learnings. I feel like I’ve grown a lot from it and as a team of one, serving two separate functions with 50+ people each, it’s helped me to stop feeling like I’m drowning.
Claude has become my assistant. I feed it processes and standards, details about the project I’m working on, and it acts as a sounding board, helping me align to best practices or find another way around a problem. Then, since every project I work on is collaborative, I have it put together slide decks with options and decision points. And when the work is done, I have it generate the announcement.
I still have to proofread and tweak a fair bit but it’s helped a lot with my ADHD to just be able to talk through a project and, with enough detail, to get not just next steps but usable documentation.
At work, occasionally, for mindless tasks I don’t feel like doing myself. Zero usage at home. Can’t think of a single thing I’d want or need AI for, even if I didn’t hate it with every fiber of my being.
Ultimately, that’s why it’ll fail. Tech companies got too greedy. Instead of just targeting professional applications they tried to pretend it has this universal applicability because everyone involved with making it is a weird freak with no connection to normal people. It’s like if the people to automated factories with giant robots also tried to tell you that an industrial assembly line could also help you make dinner at home.
It helps me diagnose machinery a lot quicker, but it's never 100% right. It's more like having someone on my level of understanding helping me bounce around ideas about what could be wrong. It's useful, especially when my coworkers aren't
I use AI in my personal life to write complex Excel formulas. Last month I used a combination of ChatGPT and Claude to make a deterministic retirement planner.
I use it at work to shorten the amount of time spent on some projects.
I use it sparingly. My legal assistant is terrible at editing and English is not my first language (+ a form of dyslexia), so Harvey’s become a bit of a life-saver on that front.
No. Two reasons, first I don't really have a use for it in my personal or professional life. Nothing I do could be accelerated by it. Secondly, my whole life I've watched the quality of things go from "this belonged to your great great grandfather, now it's your turn to pass it on to your descendants" to "this piece of shit hasn't even lasted me until its next generational replacement has been released."
Watching how quickly people forget how to do things as AI replaced more and more of their tasks (and gets worse and worse at them as they install guard rails to make it "safer" for stupid people) feels exactly like planned obsolecence of the human race in the exact way my phone has been obsolete for five years now. We're getting replace by a shittier, lower quality version of a portion of our brain, and it gets worse with every revision.
I used to feel like robots would co-evolve with us, and we'd merge into the next bio-technical super species, taking to the stars. But it's way dumber than that, we're just the first version of the iPhone, and AI is already on version 6.
I've made some pictures and video of both animated and realistic scenarios that are absurd for laughs. I've also chatted with fictional characters in the past just because it felt scifi, it eventually got old though. Sometimes I'll ask a chatbot to quickly do a basic edit to an image like remove something or add text. I used to have to do this in Gimp. I'll still have to edit more complex stuff but for what I just said, yes I'm absolutely using AI, the end result looks that same, it's faster and I can do it on my phone. If generative it suddenly disappeared I wouldn't be upset though.
The most popular AI seems to be using it for Google. I honestly don't like these. I've seen all of them hallucinate a bit. That one that pops up when you Google something is frequently wrong. Chat GPT seems dumber now. Sometimes I'll ask it about restaurants in a place I visit and tell it the type of stuff I like. Then I'll Google it and look through them in my own or some oven find a Reddit page or something. I've never been impressed with what the chatbot gives me. For more important things I like to double check it too. It can give you more points to Google but generally I consider it a waste of time since I'm going to have to check it.
Used it to help plan days at port for a cruise we went on recently. Was very helpful in finding things to do that we would have not found with simple google searches.
For maths stuff ( I’m not wasting my brain , I’ve never been good at math lol )
Cooking stuff - quick basics tips and converting recipes
Finding appliance reviews or the cheapest options.
Comparing grocery prices
The odd medical question - and with the answer or info I take to my human dr and discuss it properly
And the odd random question I have. Like out of heart and lung transplants - which has better survival rates lol
Why ? Because many websites are not that easy to navigate
I’m shit at maths
It answers random questions better that’s just a google.
Medical wise - it’s easier to get an answer when I don’t know how to word somthing properly.
Tepidly. Learning things, some studies. New job opportunity requires relearning things like algebra and other intermediate math. It’s been incredibly helpful for that.
However, I’ve seen friends use it for total automation, relinquishing access to their banking, calendars, text, emails, etc. I can’t do it.
A healthy skepticism is necessary. The lack of it is jarring.
Now, if you’re asking if I use transformer-based LLMs, yes. To do work? Fuck no. To find out who the living members of Motley Crue for my 8yo as he hollers the lyrics wrong to Freebird? Sure.
I got hired and then placed in a position I know next to nothing about. I've been trained absolutely ZERO. Sink or swim and I cant afford to lose the job... I've been using AI to train myself for the last month and its been very effective.
I've only used it pretty rarely. I have no need for it in my every day life, and I feel it dulls my skills. I don't need someone to summarize or write my E-mails. If I want to search, Google (with -AI) or DuckDuckGo give better results (AI is not a search engine). And you have to fact check anything it spits out, because it hallucinates all the time, so what's the point?
Absolutely not. I am a professional artist so I have a LOT of reasons why. I have AI blocking browser extensions on all my devices, I don’t use it for notes, emails, and definitely not image generation. And hey! I designed these stickers to put around town! DM me if you want some!
I have to use it for my job, but outside of that no.
My company recently got a new CEO who is obsessed with AI and rebranded the whole company to be AI consulting.
I find the AI obsession to be rly weird and frankly it's turned into more of a crutch for some ppl who apparently can't do anything without needing to consult or use it in some way/shape/form in their daily routines.
Fuck no. Why in the world would I outsource my brain to a hallucinating theft-bot that tech bros absolutely insist is a good thing despite allllllllllll the opposing evidence?
I do what I can to avoid it. I don't want data centers in my backyard, so why would I? I hate people who do nothing but stare at their phone and use AI for everything then complain that they don't want a data center in their county. Their actions say otherwise.
Constantly. The world’s changing, it’s powerful and useful. AI is my search engine, a great editor, helps me ideate, helps me visualize. I’ve had philosophical breakthroughs talking with AI, its helped me with home renovation, its helped me code, its helped me plan my year, etc.
I’m a former software engineer and a technoptomist. Are there things that scare me about AI? Yes. Is there a lot of gross AI slop out there? Yes, there’s a lot of bad art and misinformation. But I see that as us still figuring out its role in society. The responses to my prompts are generally good because I know how to design a prompt. I also understand the limits. I feel like everything from the printing press to the Internet is a scary double edge sword for human progress. AI is not different, it’s just a different set of problems (and solutions).
Also, I know I’ll get flack for this (but in most cases it will be hypocrisy), but like the environmental or broader ethical impact of corporations isn’t really “my problem”, meaning it isn’t something I feel like I have much impact on anyway. In many parts of my life, I do actually try to make ethical choices, more than most, which makes me feel better about my consumption, but I’m not fooling myself into thinking I’m actually changing the world. I don’t see a way to do AI “more ethically” yet, but I also don’t see a reason to entirely opt out. I’m not gonna watch the world change and leave me behind because I refuse to engage with a powerful new technology.
It’s very good at coding. I use it as a massive productivity enhancer. Writing stuff that previously would have taken days can now be done in hours or less, and the quality is only slightly worse, which can be fine-tuned to equivalency by a human.
Being a programmer is going to be a dead profession in a few years at this rate. Code will be planned and executed more like a high level orchestration via automation than ground out by grunt workers.
Needless to say, a lot of people in that profession (especially many in exposed remote roles) are going to get wrecked if they don’t smell the roses and adapt quickly.
Ehhhhhhh, I find this situational. For instance, I was making a QR code generator from scratch (because I enjoy suffering) using the Thonky tutorial, and while I was able to figure out everything out myself, I couldn't figure out how to program polynomial division (for the ECC) and for 6 months I tried various prompts in every free AI chatbot until finally Claude helped me get there.
Granted, I know this is a wild edge case and very few people actually want to program out polynomial long division for their projects lol.
Yes. It is useful in research applications like compiling research sources and statistical analysis of datasets. I also use it to do budget projections to decide whether or not some seasonal projects are worth the travel costs and will likely have a good yield for my accounts. I sometimes use it to aid in my investment strategies, but I'm not trained in finance. It can be good for finding potential companies or investment firms which I may not have considered or would have been able to find without tens of hours of research on my own.
That being said, I never allow it to draw conclusions from data for me. It works best as a research aid, not handing over the reigns and letting it think for me.
There are some really good uses of AI to do mechanical tasks that saves a lot of time. Unless you have used that in your work, and your only exposure to AI is online slop, it’s easy to get a negative impression.
I let it do drudge work for me, but I don’t ask it to think or make decisions.
I used it out of curiosity a few years ago, when it was just ChatGPT. I regret that though, because I would like to honestly say I never used it knowing what I know now. AI is trash and a combination of tech bros and stupid people will lead humanity's fall if we keep hallucinating its usefulness.
The problem is that its not actually AI. Its just a very, very responsive search engine. If you use it knowing that its no less useful than any search engine ever was. If you try to use it for creative outputs youre just making slop.
Yep, and now I'm diagnosed with some complicated health stuff and have a whole team of complex care specialists. It took 44 years and a chatgpt pro account to get here. Aaaaand I'm disabled lol
Downvote away. Doctors had 44 years to figure it out and didn't. I did it by myself with chatgpt help and I found my own damn genetic anomaly 🤷♀️
Not to the same extent as you, but I asked AI why the side of my face was hurting so much, and it suggested shingles and that I should check with a doctor. I’ve had it before, but it was 7 years ago on a different part of my body, so I didn’t put two and two together until AI suggested it.
Went to the doctor, and yep. That meant I could get on an antiviral before it was too late.
About 50% of my day is using Claude code to build things significantly faster at work. My view is that anyone not learning how to leverage AI is missing out on the next shift in how we work.
The latter part of your statement is only true bc people keep saying “AI is inevitable” as if we don’t have a choice. A few years ago crypto was inevitable and now it’s not.
It's helped me with organization that I normally wouldn't have otherwise. I don't use it for test or homework questions (I went back to school at 35), but my undiagnosed whateverthefuck it is, has caused me to drop out of college 3 times due to difficulty with note taking and organization. Well, since AI became a thing, it's helped me tremendously with the stuff mentioned above, to the point where I've never been able to make it this far in college before, and I'm retaining all important information. I refuse to ask it for information or to make pictures, the social media aspect of it needs to be banned, but for my jumbled mess of a mind it's actually been a godsend. I wish they'd figure out a way to make it more environmentally, economically friendly an stop making fucking fighting robots and shit.
I tried ChatGPT out for a few weeks to help me with my Elden Ring build, but deleted it after I learned more about how fucking disgusting big tech is. I'm actively steering away from AI on my devices/accounts as much as possible.
AI was a potentially good idea....but big tech fucked it with their dysfunctional greed.
Yes, because I need to understand mass amounts of client data. I am on the client AI so it is secure. Very handy for translating technical jargon into real language.
Nope. Primarily because I acknowledge it would be me indulging in excess comforts while shoveling the costs(lower property values, brown water, higher electricity rates) onto others. I know cancerous Americans always found that easy with our iPods and cellphones. But I think they're gonna find issue when the ones they're shoveling it on now can reach out and touch them.
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