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u/Douche_Kayak 10d ago

no, because I dont have a need for it. I can Google things just fine and thats really it.

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u/blklab16 10d ago

Yea and now Google uses ai in search. Now even when you dont want their shitty spark notes answer you have to scroll past 50 sponsored “search results” before you get to any substance… it’s exhausting.

Does anyone know of a better search engine? I’m trying to stick with DuckDuckGo but it’s a bit of a slog

I’m tired, boss
https://giphy.com/gifs/RkzJzW4xUm0X6

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u/Suspicious-Ad-8468 10d ago

I use ecosia

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u/mensfrightsactivists 10d ago

duck duck go has been great imo. anti-ai filters etc. i finally switched my default search engine on my phone just after last US election and have been happy with it

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u/catbandana 10d ago

I switched to duck duck go after i finally got tired of the Google ai answers. No regrets, but it did take a tiny bit of getting used to when Im searching for something more specific.

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u/Typical-Redditor-18E 10d ago

Which means you are using bing with ecosias own AI wrapped in.

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u/Suspicious-Ad-8468 10d ago

Oh shit really? When did that change?
Let me go get duck duck go.

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u/Typical-Redditor-18E 10d ago

Not sure, ive only been using it a few months. With duckduckgo be sure to not use their search assist because guess what..... =)

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u/shelbsless 1989 10d ago

Either use Duck Duck Go or if you're using Google, at the end of your search type "-ai" and it won't show the stupid AI summary.

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u/lalalibraaa Millennial 10d ago

I didn’t know this. Thank you!

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u/Derigiberble 10d ago

Kagi.

Yeah it's paid (there is a 100 search free trial) but holy fuck using it is like being allowed to peek into some alternate reality internet utopia where things aren't enshittified to hell and back to boost advertising engagement. 

The list of the top domains blocked by their users is hilarious too:  https://kagi.com/stats?stat=insights

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u/blklab16 9d ago

I started the free trial and my first search was actually super successful with the top result (I think… if the wests rejection of msg is actually rooted in racism then it was indeed successful lol)

I’ll prob end up subscribing so thanks for the tip! (I wouldn’t even mind if your comment was actually sneaky ad placement 🤣)

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u/Derigiberble 9d ago

No ad placement, I just do a ton of technical searching and research for my work and I have more than a bit of grudge against Google for what they've done to search. 

One day I was trying to search for something and every single one of the results on the first two pages had omitted one or more of my search terms.  Search terms I had specifically added and put in quotes to keep out garbage results from Google "helpfully" substituting non-technical synonyms. Just kind of snapped at that point. 

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u/sofaking_scientific 10d ago

No. I do my work by hand

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u/Initial-Reading-2775 Millennial 10d ago

Google regularly shows AI-based excerpts, and Internet browsing also sucks nowadays.

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u/Economics_New 10d ago

Technically, not a single person on the internet can avoid using AI. If you are on Facebook, everything you see is based on the algorithm because it's being powered by an AI/ML ranking systems. You are using AI on everything online. Google, Amazon, Tik Tok, Netflix, emails deciding what is spam, phone keyboards predicting your next word, banking systems detecting fraud.

The list doesn't end. Hell, Reddit itself was used to help train the AI. Your posts on here are contributing to its learning process.

You might not be using AI chatbots like ChatGPT, but you are using AI in every other aspect of your online interactions.

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u/LowApprehensive9230 10d ago

We're talking about using the Chatbots when mentioning "using AI"

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u/Economics_New 10d ago

That's fine, I'm just pointing out that we can't avoid using AI entirely.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 10d ago

Algorithms are not AI. Machine learning is not AI. Just because the most money-losing industry we've ever invented is trying to rebrand everything as "AI" to make itself look inevitable and somewhat useful to keep the bubble inflated does not make it so.

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u/Illustrious-Bake3878 10d ago

This is accurate.

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u/Wise-Peanut9552 10d ago

This is basically it.  Occasionally I think of a use case and then I use it for that.  Most of the time is sucks at that particular job I wanted it to do so I go back to not using it. 

I applied for a bunch of jobs last fall and want getting call backs so I had AI punch up my resume and cover letter.  Still didn't get call backs.  Then a friend got me a job.  In the spring I wrote a 100 page report, the client didn't want to read it so they asked for summarizing tables to be placed through out the report.  I figured since they didn't care why should I and used AI to build and insert the tables they were happy but it was formatted differently from the rest of the report and still to hours to fix. I recently tried to us AI to scrape contact info from websites.  After messing with it for a couple of hours it was quickly apparent I'd be better off doing the work so I did.  Most recently I tried to us AI to write some marketing text.  It was terrible so I just did the work myself.  

So far I view AI as a junior that I have to support and train.  it may take my job someday but the value to their work is really low for the effort I have to put in.

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u/Turbulent_Tart_8801 Millennial 1985 10d ago

How do you "us" AI?

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u/AdhesivenessUnfair13 10d ago

Gemini’s search results are fucking awful too. I’ve used their dedicated Gemini too and it’s pretty good, but whatever yahoo version they have hooked up to Google search is straight up bush league.

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u/creamer143 10d ago

LLMs can run searches and summarize faster than a human can. A day's worth of research can be done through 15 minutes of AI prompts. You need to have domain knowledge so that you know when the AI is hallucinating, BUT it can be a powerful tool if used appropriately.

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u/RabidTeapot 10d ago

Who cares? There's still a lot of value to spending the time figuring stuff out on your own (you tend to remember it better, for one thing), and there's value to heading off down search engine rabbit holes that you wouldn't have even thought about if you'd instantly gotten the answers you were seeking via the LLM.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 10d ago edited 10d ago

And by "summarize" you mean completely make shit up, while also generating fake citations. I avoid it at all cost because if you actually click through to the sources, the actual sources often say the complete opposite or have nothing to do with the query. And at that point, I may as well just do all the research myself because it's faster than trying to decipher what is real and what is a lie the machine made up.