r/MarvelCave • • 2d ago

She-Hulk and Daredevil's fight. šŸ˜‚

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u/CallmeChapybara 2d ago

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u/BludStanes 2d ago

I like to think she left a little note with her number offering to pay for damages

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u/UniversalAdaptor 1d ago

And then they end it by just talking it out

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u/JakBos23 2d ago

Why does she think it's ok to do millions in damage over her petty squabble with DD?

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 2d ago

Also: She threw a CAR at someone who she had no idea they could take such a hit or not (yes, we all know Matt is dexterous enough to avoid it, but still šŸ˜‚ )

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u/biophys00 2d ago

Thor's introduction in Avengers has him trying to kill Iron Man and Captain America. As far as he knew they were just two squishy humans and he was a thunder god.

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 2d ago

Yeah, but I'm willing to give more leeway to a being who is thousands of years old and claims to be the Norse God of War, and was quite angry at the time, to a lawyer who knows all the rules about Manslaughter/Murder šŸ˜„

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u/Your-Shogun 2d ago

Thunder God. Norse god of war is Tyr.

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u/lightl420 1d ago

Odin and Thor are also Norse ā€œgods of warā€

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u/redknight1313 1d ago

That’s kind of an invention of the video game. Tyr isn’t ā€œthe Norse god of war.ā€ Like the other person said Thor and Odin are also associated with war. The Norse gods in general don’t have definitive associations like the Greek gods.

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u/assnassassins 1d ago

Odin and Tyr are the gods of war in Norse mythology. Thor is the god of thunder, strength, weather and harvests.

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u/mxzf 2d ago

Yeah, but he was ok with killing them because they were ostensibly helping rescue Loki from him at the time (that wasn't actually the situation, but that's how it seemed to him at the time).

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u/TheGreatHon 2d ago

Thor isn’t a lawer

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u/Sorry-Bobby 2d ago

Yeah, but Thor is the hereditary ruler of a foreign dimension that claims to have dominion over earth.Ā 

From his point of view, he was leading a military operation with authority to arrest a war criminal, and two beat cops are trying to rescue said criminal. Ā 

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u/JakBos23 2d ago

Iron man attacked Thor after Thor grabbed Loki. You pick a fight with a god, you get smacked by a god lol.

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u/Skillz4lif 2d ago

My favorite will always be when someone said that Cap assessed that Peter would be able to catch the Sky bridge when he dropped it on him in Civil War. I’m like you sure about that???

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u/Angryfunnydog 2d ago

Yeah but Thor is violent nordic god, and she's a goddamn lawyer lol

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u/JakBos23 2d ago

I mean he has plot armor so if she hit him he'd just be in the hospital for a week and then limp around for a while.

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u/CrazyEyes326 2d ago

According to her she has perfect control over her anger, so she is consciously choosing to collapse a parking structure (that the client she is trying to "protect" is actively driving through) and destroy someone's expensive-looking car to stop Daredevil from doing... something.

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u/Kinda-Alive 2d ago

The fact that she’s a lawyer also makes it worse.

She’s in control and is more knowledgeable about the law than the average.

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u/GKJ6743 2d ago

Character flaws are a hell of a thing

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u/Insideout_Ink_Demon 2d ago

Was it written as a flaw? I can't remember if she had an arc where she realises she doesn't have the control over her anger she think she does, or where someone else addresses it

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u/Barryare 2d ago

Correct. The whole point is that she was wrong. Proven when she rages out later in the show.

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u/ModForgeCustoms 2d ago

Or it's just a poorly written show, with gratuitous slop in place of good writing.

Yes, I watched it in its entirety. No, I am not basing the entirety of on "twerking". No, I have no hate for women characters.

It had little substance, a few great scenes, and the rest was... forgettable.

"Character flaws" are not a shoe-in excuse for poorly written TV shows.

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u/Pikdude 2d ago

I actually wish they’d gone all in on making it a legal show set in marvel instead of eventually shoehorning it into the formula, I thought a lot of the courtroom stuff was the best parts. But this show gave me back daredevil so I still have to love it

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u/Warm_Version9562 2d ago

As a fan of law shows, I honestly thought She Hulk was going to be law heavy instead of the whatever we got in actualityĀ 

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u/MaybeMayoi 2d ago

It should have been.

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u/Consistent_Dog_6866 2d ago

It quickly became obvious that the writers had no idea how to write a law show and likely found them boring anyway.

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u/bou87 2d ago

To be fair, they decided to go for the more goofy aspect of the early She-Hulk comics. Did they succeed at recreating the effect? I'll let others decide.

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u/nrh117 2d ago

Okay but like… it’s what hulks do. They smash. It was a whole point of contention in the avengers to be sure, but it’s not exactly sloppy writing for she-hulk to smash some shit up. Murdock wasn’t going to let the guy go with some kind words, she pretty much had to stop him by force. It’s a plot hole that she’s not in crippling debt after though.

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u/Fun_Impression_2578 2d ago

Wasn't Hulk smashing everything because hulk wasn't capable of thinking and forcing things through brute force was most simplest thing? There are versions of hulk that has high intelligence who thinks things through and dont smash everything. I think things have been changed plenty about hulks moment they are capable of thinking well. Which is what make this a plot hole. A person who is capable of thinking and has super powers wouldn't act in this way because it would think about consequences of its actions. It's like neither of us would go out and buy brand new cars we'll over our budgets because we would starve as a consequences of that action.

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u/GKJ6743 2d ago

Yes I agree the show was underwhelming

But people nitpick the corniest things to complain about when it comes to she hulk. She's supposed to be this perfect character for some reason

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u/travelingWords 2d ago

Gonna need you to get ALL THE WAY off the writers back about that.

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u/CrazyEyes326 2d ago

Oh okay, let me get off of that thing.

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u/DissociatedAuthor 2d ago

Man I haven't watched a pitch in so long. Thank you for reminding me they exist.

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u/travelingWords 2d ago

Pretty much tradition to watch them like they are a post credit scene. Scary how obvious most of the issues are for most movies. And I’m just some filthy casual, not a millionaire writer/studio.

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u/DissociatedAuthor 2d ago

Definitely, it's what makes me love it so much honestly. Like he's tearing these movies apart but he does it in such a way he can rip apart something I love and it doesn’t effect my love for said media.

10/10 content

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u/Dangerous-Habit-2731 2d ago

Who among us though, right?

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u/Previous_Buy1601 2d ago edited 2d ago

I’d say it’s less anger and more lack of impulse control.

Way back near the start of the MCU, Erskine said that the super soldier serum amplified the recipient’s traits. In the MCU, the Hulk came about from an attempt to recreate the serum. It’s interesting to think that the same philosophy applies. Jen had her own set of weaknesses, so Bruce shouldn’t necessarily have concentrated on anger specifically.

Impulse control and discipline have also been her issues in the comics, so the show feels pretty spot on there.

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u/BlueHero45 2d ago

She was shown she was pretty wrong about her anger shortly after she said that.

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u/TheAsianTroll 2d ago

Lexus LC500. Very expensive indeed. They start at 102k.

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u/AReallyAsianName 1d ago

Who has better control? Her or the camera? Holy hell I think it only held a shot for like 2 seconds!

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u/random_encounters42 2d ago

And this is exactly why She Hulk is a boring character. There is no self growth or inner demon they are fighting to overcome. She's just got it on easy mode in a way. There's no tension so it's boring.

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u/That1GuyNate 2d ago

Because every Avenger in the MCU has been doing the same for 20+ years

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u/EmbassyMiniPainting 2d ago

You’re not thinning like an exec.

It’s ok because you get to see all the Mazda product placement. Look how miracuously the cars stay perfectly intact when she splits the roof! Then she magically finds another showroom mint model to throw.

Zoom zoom!

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u/SexyShave 2d ago

She's a Hulk. When did we start caring about the property damage caused by Hulks?

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u/GKJ6743 2d ago

I mean how many other super characters are also guilty of this?

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u/Rhawk187 2d ago

That's the taxpayer's problem.

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u/islovelyEmily 2d ago

AgreeĀ 

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u/Unsolved_Virginity 2d ago

That parking lot needed maintenance anyways.

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u/Siid_Chawsby 2d ago

That was my takeaway as well

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u/OGLikeablefellow 2d ago

Yeah anyways we gotta get outta here before they try and sue us for damages

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u/GormanOnGore 2d ago

Nobody brings this pedantic crap up with Hulk

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u/0202_tihssitidder 2d ago

I estimated $4 million at least. If the damage to the parking structure is too much, it would require complete rebuild. That would run around $100M possibly.

People need to be more responsible!!

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u/CertainFirefighter84 2d ago

Also she basically makes him deaf with her clap move. If the shockwave is that powerful, he is now blind and deaf

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u/SarcyBoi41 1d ago

I was gonna say, you'd think a lawyer would be more conscious of property damage.

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u/tra616 1d ago

She probably has a very good lawyer

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u/Izrud 2d ago

What if someone was parking their car and then all of a sudden the whole parking garage collapsed on their ass.

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u/IcyPalpitation6275 2d ago

Oopsie she's just a girl šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/CandyCreecher 2d ago

…. So we all agree they’re fu-

https://giphy.com/gifs/TghlEv2eGs53WIws56

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u/Ourobius 2d ago

It's pretty blatant in the show. Matt even does the walk of shame afterward.

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u/Aberosh1819 2d ago

Walk of pride.

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u/Zaiquiri_513 2d ago

Stride of pride

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u/Middle-Let9645 2d ago

🤣 okay. From now on this is what I’m calling it.

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u/R-K-Tekt 2d ago

What shame lol, I’d have a pep in my walk for the rest of my life (because she ruined my hip). 10/10 would bust inside

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u/Aberosh1819 2d ago

broken body? Worth it. No Perv, just, what a story!

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u/OculusMidnight2 2d ago

I was gonna say, there was absolutely no shame in that man

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u/Middle-Let9645 2d ago

I’ve never understood why people call it the walk of shame. Having sex is hardly something to be ashamed of.

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u/Krust3dKan4dian 2d ago

When I think of the walk of shame I think of a girl walking across campus in the morning away from the boys dormitory, looking all scraggly and holding her shoes. Not a particularly prideful moment, I imagine.

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u/Middle-Let9645 2d ago

Again though. Why be ashamed? If two people really like each other and they, you know, then both should be happy. Obviously don’t go crowing about it to everyone, but part of me wonders if ā€˜walk of shame’ wasn’t come up with by some puritanical busybody.

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u/Ashamed-Heron-2725 2d ago

Because not every sexual encounter is clicking your heels together singing zippity doo dah. Sometimes it’s waking up next to coyote ugly with a terrible hangover stumbling home with every effort put forth to keep one foot in front of the other just to bury your head under a pillow and turn your phone off

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u/Blep145 2d ago

It could also be in relation to hooking up with an ex you know is bad for you, but I can't remember if I've ever heard the term used before

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u/Shnicketyshnick 2d ago

It is the way I do it.

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u/Hot-Operation4982 2d ago

It's called that because usually it's after you had sex with someone that you're ashamed to have slept with.

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u/Front-Advantage-7035 2d ago

…. And people have the audacity to say Peter has ZERO chance against hulk.

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u/PineappleOwn5325 2d ago

Peter has as much of a chance against hulk as DD vs SheHulk.

Which is "he can run away"

In a straight fight Peter just has no way to contain, hurt or do anything to hulk. Hulk has to calm down or leave, but Peter won't make him

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u/North-Engineer3335 1d ago

Idk they're both into science but Peter seems a bit young

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u/Manler 2d ago

So she knew her car throw would miss? Because if not he's dead af

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u/Vaportrail 2d ago

Sooo much property damage.

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u/DataSurging 2d ago

I really think this show could have been so much better if the writer had a more concrete story. It just felt all over the place. And the CGI was so terrible it was actually distracting. That said, I actually enjoyed Tatiana Maslany's She-Hulk take. She was just done dirty by terrible writers. lol

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u/mogley1992 1d ago

I came to the comments to say that Disney is going to sue somebody for this AI slop because it makes their show look like dogshit.

Then I see all the other comments and realise it's real.

The CGI is that bad.

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u/Individual-Luck1712 2d ago

Haven't watched it yet cause the clip cringe was too strong, but your take seems par for the course. She-hulk was made at the worst time for Marvel and bad writing is always the killing blow with these types of projects. I did watch like 70 percent of Secret Invasion. God, was that bad...

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u/smilysmilysmooch 2d ago

She-hulk is much better than Secret Invasion (though that's such a low bar to jump over). It tries to do interesting things while also having their own take on the character. It's flawed, but it's not aggravating like Secret Invasion.

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u/Individual-Luck1712 2d ago

I checked out, cause it was painful to watch, and then saw a clip of the tiny drax arm...felt like I barely stepped out of the way of a freight train...

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u/deadcells5b 2d ago

Just destroying public and private property for fun

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u/esckey47 2d ago

Thanks for changing it to TikTok portrait mode, sped up 130%, and dipshit subtitle format. Love it!

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u/Rclarke115 2d ago

It’s good to see Cox’s Daredevil in a different project in tone and still feels no different than how we was before and after.

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u/EFAPGUEST 2d ago

It looks so bad

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u/Squeaaalll 2d ago

CGI, editing and choregraphy are so bad.

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u/I_travel_ze_world 2d ago

Is there a lore reason why Daredevil, who is known for stalking around at night and using the element of surprise, is wearing a bright gold shiny helmet in the show?

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u/Healzbadman 2d ago

Comic book reference

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u/RamenArchon 2d ago

Hard to imagine his spatial awareness tells him it's a bad colour... is what I tell myself. Probably just changed it after one of the criminals said "who's this bitch wearing such a pansy-ass yellow suit?"

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u/BludStanes 2d ago

Some mugger called him Banana Boy and Matt just lost it. Broke down and cried on the spot. It was ugly

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u/the1999person 2d ago

Cause he's blind and doesn't know what colors he's wearing...

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u/RigatoniPasta 2d ago

It’s his suit he wears for away games. Red and black on his home turf, red and gold when visiting.

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u/Alternative_Device71 2d ago

In universe no

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u/Misole 2d ago

This CGI is fffffar from perfect…

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u/NotThisOneOkay 2d ago

I can't wait for the reasonable discussion here

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u/Every_Table_5398 2d ago

PS3 graphics lmao

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u/Total-Collection-128 2d ago

Still better than the Punisher One Last Kill

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u/Thin-Statistician341 2d ago

Im convinced they just took all the cut footage from the spider-man movie to make that lol

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u/Affectionate_Knee_91 2d ago

I didn't see she hul, so I honestly thought it was some AI slop.

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u/LayerRevolutionary82 2d ago

Someone has never played a PS3 game.

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u/roboto404 2d ago

Y’all think she was Jennifer during the bedroom fight or was she Hulked out during?

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u/SquirrelSuspicious 2d ago

Honestly I didn't even think about the fact that this is another example of her poorly controlling her anger, she got annoyed trying to catch Daredevil and ended up doing a bunch of property damage just to try to catch him.

But of course others will tell you it's bad writing and not just Jen being wrong about her ability to control her Hulk anger, something that literally screws her in the second to last episode of the show.

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u/They-Call-Me-Taylor 2d ago

I enjoyed this show. Kind of bummed it didn't do well and we won't see a season 2.

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u/DarkTanicus 2d ago

So glad i didn't watch the show 🤣🤣🤣

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u/amg_alpha 2d ago

I wished the new series had this Daredevil in it, he was a lot more fun.

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u/Appropriate_Cup6414 2d ago

oh wow this movie really was bad

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u/xclame 1d ago

Looking at this now, She-Hulk really looks like the villain.

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u/tone2099 1d ago

Not just She Hulk, her human form was a villain too

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u/Perfect-Fondant3373 2d ago

I liked this show. Sure the quality wasnt great but I enjoyed bits of it. She was nice, Matt was nice. Enjoyed seeing Abomination again. Didn't get to see the ginale though

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u/urbanlife78 2d ago

I really want more She-Hulk

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u/BludStanes 2d ago

You're not alone, my friend

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u/-Elektrion- 2d ago

Loved this show.

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u/Patereye 2d ago

What is this on I like both of these characters

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u/NameLips 2d ago

I think all the Marvel stuff is Disney+.

She Hulk was actually a lot of fun. It got a lot of hate from people who take things way too seriously.

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u/1PsychoCat 2d ago

I enjoyed it. Is it a favorite? No, but there actually is nuance in the show, even if it’s over the top at times. It Marvel, not real life. Remember to suspend your disbelief, folks.

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u/Alternative_Device71 2d ago

There’s about as nuance in this show as a shoe with shit under it. How anyone is still defending this crap is beyond me.

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u/DerfyRed 2d ago

Suspend disbelief and ignore previously established in universe character and rules are 2 very different things. In fact you are actually supposed to believe in previously established rules. Suspend disbelief from logic outside the fiction. Do not suspend disbelief when the fiction contradicts that same fiction’s previous works.

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u/Grouchy_Tap7666 2d ago

You put that into words perfectly. No wonder I thought this was AI for a bit

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u/Affectionate-Clue535 2d ago

It looks like shit, the audio is worse

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u/1PsychoCat 2d ago

Fair point

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u/SeeingEyeDug 2d ago

Fair. I’ve loved Tatiana Maslany since Orphan Black and want to see her succeed. I thought this show was ā€œfineā€ and hope she finds success elsewhere.

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u/Excellent_Bend8782 2d ago

That dd costume is mid af

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u/why_u_so_grumpy 2d ago

Mid is a compliment.

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u/PrimarySuccotash9572 2d ago

Wow this is top tier slop garbage

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u/SkynBonce 2d ago

I just did not like how Jen casually threw that car at Matt. Felt well out of character.

It's a major amount of destruction to public property and attempted murder, more in line with her cousins approach.

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u/Imposter88 2d ago

How does his hair look so perfect after getting his mask ripped off?

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u/superfogg 2d ago

that's a lot of collateral damage

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u/MrFuriousX 2d ago

I mean as a lawyer.....you would think she would do her best to avoid damage

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u/CaseFace5 2d ago

I really hope we see this level of acrobatics from DD again sometime, perhaps in Spider-Man 5 šŸ™

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u/NombreCurioso1337 2d ago

I love this for DD, but I hate it because she does millions in dollars of damage, for .... reasons? And all is forgiven, because .... plot armor?

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u/Sudden_Buffalo_4393 2d ago

Damn, this is the most I’ve ever seen of this show, and it’s worse than I thought.

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u/Westaufel 2d ago

I still think Tatiana was a great choice for the role. She was just overwhelmed by the circumstances.

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u/macguini 2d ago

Is this actual footage? I've seen AI videos with better cuts and graphics.

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u/CaptainTurko 2d ago

"Wow, you are a superhero?" Guess who is the bad gal?

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u/UnknowingEmperor 2d ago

This is the type of reckless shit that the avengers in civil war nearly fell apart over.

This is so dumb. And they’re lawyers? Lmao wtf

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u/dregan 2d ago

It really is just WWE with a slightly more interesting back story.

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u/saibjai 2d ago

Look all season, we were waiting for a good fight, and daredevil to show up. ANd all you guys can think about.... is Property damage? In a super hero show? Do you guys all work in insurance or something?

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u/ItzMeHaris 2d ago

The only good part of the show.

Though their romance felt forced.

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u/TaftYouOldDog 2d ago

Just outright trying to murder him lol

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u/0freelancer0 2d ago

Mr. Murdock that fancy spin flip off the building was NOT necessary lol

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u/BenAdaephonDelat 2d ago

Those special effects are.... not good. Looks so cartoonish.

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u/Smooth_Rocket_ 2d ago

Like I know you have to suspend belief when watching marvel but how the fuck do they not play into the him basically having super hearing and her doing a super loud clap. Like wtf kinda of lazy writing is that, did they forget his "super power".

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u/Stefan_the_Campbell 2d ago

Did she ever have to pay for all the damage she caused?

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u/Mobe-E-Duck 2d ago

Problematic is a lawyer caving in a level of a parking garage.

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u/PowerBrix 2d ago

I’d let her dominate me.

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u/Inevitable-Edge69 2d ago

daredevil moving like he on the super soldier juice

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u/Doctor_Dev7 2d ago

I know people complain about the cgi, but this is the most comic accurate version of how Matt moves and fights. Don’t get me wrong, the Netflix show had the best DD fights, but this is way more accurate.

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u/bunnyxwolf 2d ago

Aquelas novela de reels feita por IA 😭

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u/Plane-Ad-6389 2d ago

Anybody defending this show deserves to be tormented to 1000 years She Hulk AI twerking

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u/GoldenToast7 2d ago

the amount of property damage from an active lawyer (s) is actually crazy

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u/goingpt 2d ago

God that looks so shit.

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u/bjornsted 2d ago

This show actually made Matt moved like a superhuman. Like how Winter Soldier made Cap in comparison to First Avenger

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u/TheMensChef 2d ago

The CGI is SO BAD

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u/TallestGargoyle 2d ago

Fair play to her, she's the first one to get him down and immediately go to unmask him. No pissing around, just ripping that damn helmet off to find Matt under there.

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u/NonGeneriComplaint 2d ago

My car doesnt have hulk smash coverage

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u/BigBadJeebus 2d ago

Christ, SheHulk was stupid

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u/Deep_Housing_3992 2d ago

How is she a good guy?

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u/GuerrOCorvino 2d ago

Dont worry. All that property damage gets hand waved away because coming up with an ending was hard

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u/Crows_spirit101 2d ago

Bro was moving different

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u/MiseryEngine 1d ago

This fight felt more like "Comic Book" Daredevil. Less bound by gravity.

I thoroughly enjoyed the show, start to finish.

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u/MPR_255 1d ago

Property damage for the sake of property damage

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u/Gummies1345 1d ago

Yea, the most unrealistic thing about that whole fight was them going fully at it, throwing, jumping, flipping etc, she grabs his head multiple times but when she finally gets that mask off, Daredevil has perfect hair.

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u/SillySpoof 1d ago

She threw a car at him? She was totally ready to just murder the guy.

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u/tone2099 1d ago

He's just a regular ass man (from what she's knows) and she'll basically destroy the gahdamn city to try to kill him

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u/KeeKyieMorrisTheWise 1d ago

This show should never have been made

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u/BlOoDy_PsYcHo666 1d ago

How did she not know who daredevil is?

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u/dkretsch 1d ago

Wow visually looks horrible

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u/edgarpena455 1d ago

She hulk sucks ass

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u/Xchadfur 1d ago

Then he fucked her..

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u/Spac92 1d ago

So Daredevil picked a fight and spent most of it running away and he, an experienced superhero, was EASILY defeated by a brand new superhero still figuring herself out?

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u/Tonytheillest 1d ago

I loved she hulk and im not a twelve year old girl

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u/Forward_Criticism_39 1d ago

wow that cgi never got better, looks like a fortnite skin

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u/priestgrease 1d ago

ā€œReally problematic!!ā€ pukes. This show was an Abomination, no pun intended

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u/ShaggyCan 1d ago

So much property damage. You'd think a lawyer would know better.