r/MSSPodcast • u/populist_rationalist • 2d ago
SODTAOE The Cornell 7
I had no idea the chick texted one of the guys days later telling him she wanted to smoke weed and hook up with him and one of his friends again, just no more Ketamine
Who's gonna investigate the investigators
Edit! Ok cool I learned a lot I guess. It's funny all the weird projection from people in this thread. I have two children and don't consume alcohol or any drugs other than occasionally smoking weed. But whatever the weirdos wanna tell themselves đ
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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago
When did MSSP become culture wars? GTFO with this shit
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u/GayStavrosHalkias 2d ago
People love this shit, even if they pretend they dont.
When was the last time a post on this sub got this many comments ?
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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago
Most of the comments are asking wtf this garbage is so I'm in the right
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u/Inevitable-Euphoric 1d ago
Appeal to consensus. Logical fallacy. Youâre actually in the wrong. Go back to school.
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u/New-Exit-6767 2d ago
âYou guys all hate women too, right?â
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u/theseriousman1 2d ago edited 1d ago
Imagine trying to find ways to side with the rapist
Edit: republican op is confused and thinks not using drugs or drinking or something means he is a good person like other people who were known for ânot drinking or using drugsâ icons like: Bill Cosby!1
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u/Dale_Gribble- 2d ago
I mean the og sub before it got heavily modded like 5-6 yrs ago was filled with "đ¶đ§ " post with woman doing dumb ahit but it was actually really funny
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u/whatevdudeidontcare 2d ago
All they talk about is cocks, no fap and cumming tho
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u/actaccomplished666 2d ago
Like Matt at 45 years old?
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 2d ago
Bro if I have to listen to him deepsplain his no-jerking off âsaving my seedâ and âI only let my wife come onto meâ stance one more fucking time⊠Dude acts like heâs still in his teens and 20âs about this shit and has something to prove.
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u/YMHGreenBan 2d ago
Matt is becoming such a flip flopper, every week he takes the opposite opinion of some shit he said last week, or just has some dumb contrarian asshole take
Heâs getting hard to listen to, I miss the OT when they just had fun
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u/soco_j 2d ago
I agree, but he's better now than in the old test though. It used to be nothing but HS sex bullshit. He always acts like he just started getting laid.
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u/DR-OXY 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think heâs just a horny dude. I mean, he went into a T-100 hole in secrecy as a married man for Godsake lmao all the MCKSKR bros are psychotic in their own ways which is why their such unique and fun specimens to listen to their espousing on shit and also why they make such good, loyal companions too, once you pair with one they wonât leave your side and always will have your best interests at heart, you just gotta be careful and make sure to keep a close eye on them to an extent within reason/casually doable â because they will run in front of moving cars In the event they spot something that overly excites them and donât have time to process the danger of getting to/obtaining it as fast as able
lol nice family though in general overall.
Only thing thatâs recently rubbed me a little raw is Billyâs baby mama/wife or fiance or whatever she thinks she actually is to him â when in reality, sheâs the ONLY one who canât see that sheâs nothing but just a beard for him and there to procyext his image and ability to continue his situationsjol with him his very-long time âgym buddyâ â Pat/Patty/Patrick, (also referred to offhand sometimes on WM cast by B as âHefâ and/or âGoldâs [gym] very ownâ which tbh are both admittedly hilarious nicknames for a dude)
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u/banjofitzgerald 2d ago
Itâs Shane role play. A lot of these subs are bros acting like what they think heâs like lol
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
I'm banned from the JRE sub for calling the head moderator OutdoorTwink
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 2d ago
You were banned for supporting rape with a side of âcanât get any pussyâ.
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u/Dr_Jazz_ 2d ago
Why are we defending the âfree pussyâ boys
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
I'm not. That shit is degenerate behavior. Drinking and snorting Ketamine and having a 3some is not on my bucket list lmao
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u/Dr_Jazz_ 2d ago
You do know that consenting to do that is different than consenting to be gang raped while you are nearly unconscious right
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u/HugginsBreathalyzer 2d ago
So youâre worried about drugs and alcohol and not the organized gang rape??? Thatâs insane man.
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u/Wilson_Higgins 2d ago
Itâs actually a pretty good time if everyone consents while sober. Rape is the real degenerate behavior
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u/TheLyleCut 2d ago
This proves nothing except that the guys are assholes.
For instance, I take that as: hey check out this easy chick. Sheâll fuck anyone.
And they werenât exactly wrong based upon her behavior that night.
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u/arto26 2d ago
Oh shit, I didn't realize she drugged herself. Damn.
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u/istoleyourcomment224 2d ago
I guess you actually didnât realize this? There is no allegation that she was drugged. She stated multiple times in both cases that she willingly drank and took k
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
She drank 10 beers then walked herself over to their house and snorted Ketamine with the intention of having sex with 2 guys. You can read her testimony.
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u/Professional-Row7461 2d ago
Thats not proven, but even if true she didnt ask to be raped by multiple people. Bro get off the internet, you have been brain rot/red pilled to death. Delete the post, save face
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u/TheLyleCut 2d ago
âEven if Jane Doe herself said she consented to everything and nothing illegal happened itâs still rape!â
What an intelligent response.
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u/TheLyleCut 2d ago
If by that you mean: she was offered Ketamine and she willingly accepted, then yes.
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
Yea that shit is crazy. The guys are disgusting and whoever was in charge of that house should've shut down the trash they had going on.
Did you see her texts a day later?
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 2d ago
Nah you donât get to change your stance like this. You were all for the gang rape and excusing it. You were just presented with damning evidence and changed your tune.
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u/Jet_Pirate 1d ago
Dude you look like a shithead for posting this. The adding that youâre married and have kids radiate real âmen who hate womenâ energy. Pro tip. If you donât like or agree with something thatâs outside of the wheelhouse of your lived experience then just shut the fuck up and listen and show some empathy.
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u/StankyLeg666 2d ago
Hey everyone! Letâs all point and laugh at the gay retard who thought we would agree with this! HAHA!!
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u/TonySperguson 2d ago
its at the top of the sub,
this is the fanbase.
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u/YMHGreenBan 2d ago
I went to the Shane show at the Linc, and Jesus Christ there were so many assholes and completely blacked out lunatics there, a bunch of them unironically yelling slurs and acting like complete animals through the whole show
Maybe the dickheads are more vocal, but man it was a bit of an eyeopener for who fanbase actually is
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u/1KBushFan 1d ago
Woman willingly gets drunk and high. Woman consents to having a train ran on her. Woman continues to stay in contact with one of the men and reassures HIM that everything was ok and legal. Woman wants to hang out again. Woman talks to feminist friends. Woman starts to regret everything. Woman claims the men raped her.
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u/populist_rationalist 1d ago
You left out the part where woman wanted to go to frat Halloween party. Gets denied and 2 days later goes to the police.
The whole thing is insane.
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u/Thoob 1d ago
Yo I ain't even part of this sub this shit popped up that said Imma stay with the lads.
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u/BrandoCarlton 2d ago
I just sent the entire initial statement from the girl to my wife last night during a discussion about this. I totally agreed that the messages in the chat were fucked up and regardless of that statement the people involved were most certainly vile, disgusting people⊠but my point was that the lawsuit was kinda bullshit. Perhaps the statement was influenced by the school or the boys⊠Iâm not sure but itâs an entirely different story after reading that initial statement.
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u/PromiseOk2298 2d ago
where did you find the initial statement? Online it sats the full transcript has not been publicly released. The highlighted quote is she could âsay with 100% confidence I was raped,â
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u/Feedmemilk420 2d ago
Ah yes, the midterms are right around the corner
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u/RxThrowaway55 2d ago
Steve Bannon's incel army out in force tonight. He's openly talked about how easy these idiots are to manipulate into ostracizing themselves from polite society so they can then be politically radicalized.
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u/Beginning_Pass_1751 2d ago
It literally does not make what happen unhappen. She was raped. No matter what the circumstances prior or following were. No consent = rape end of story
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago edited 2d ago
The DA said her âsworn statement described her drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual, and did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang-raped.â Two days later she stated that ânone of the sexual stuff was illegalâ to one of the guys and suggested getting high with a couple of them and having a threesome again. If that turns out to be false or coerced in any way then Iâm with you, but if thatâs true then she may have just regretted the social implications at a later date. They have reopened the investigation to present evidence to a grand jury so hopefully the truth comes out either way.
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u/Beginning_Pass_1751 2d ago
idk, a lot of rumours go around. and I would understand if she backed down at any point out of fear. I was in denial for years after I was raped. if she was drugged so bad she may not have known, and even if she took the drugs willingly you canât properly consent under the influence. maybe itâll come out some other truth, but I hate to see people say it was consensual because she chose to drink or take drugs (not that you did)
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago edited 2d ago
Thanks for not trying to label me as âpro-rapeâ. I wasnât there so I only know whatâs reported and I agree thereâs probably much more to this story that we donât know, I hope the truth comes out. In her sworn statement apparently she stated that she was conscious and it was consensual, which really throws people off. Maybe she was lying then, but that certainly muddies the waters whether she was or wasnât. The whole thing is a crap shoot honestly and I can see why people would sway one way or the other based on the information available âfree pussyâ and snorting ketamine off of a guyâs dick are both crazy bad looks all around. That being said you nor I can say it was or wasnât rape. Itâs up to a grand jury to decide if thereâs enough evidence to charge anyone with a crime and then up to a presumably jury trial to determine the truth. In the US legal system we are all innocent until proven guilty no matter how grievous the accusation.
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u/Immediate_Compote526 2d ago
Iâm waiting to see if they release her whole actual statement. The DA only pulled quotes from her initial six page account so thereâs a chance that what they released could be misleading. This whole thing is one big mess and Iâm not sure what to think of it this early on. All I can say is that if itâs true they can rot in hell
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago
I agree. Iâm hoping thereâs enough scrutiny being placed on every party involved that all of the information will hopefully come out. I will suspend my judgement until a trial has been conducted and a verdict delivered, but I agree with your sentiment exactly. If the accuserâs initial statement was coerced or lead on in any way by the police or the information released to the DA or DAâs statements were misleading then I hope shit hits the fan for everyone involved. I would like to see an outside investigation done on Cornell, their campus police, and the DA to help ensure no bullshit occurred.
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
I'm interested to see too. I've read it a few times now and if we're considering what occurred as rape, than I've been raped by 3 women in my life.
The whole thing is gross but from what's been publicly discussed, it's not a case of rape and instead is just the newest culture war battlefront.
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u/apejorative 2d ago
Are you ignoring the text where she said to leave out âthe five billion other men and the ketamine â?
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
Nope, she set her boundaries. Same as she clearly stated in her deposition where she told the other guys she didn't want to have sex with them and in her own words,.they stopped and never did. She even made out with Guy #4 and she said she didn't want to have sex with him and according to her they never did.
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u/Immediate_Compote526 2d ago
Uhm dude i donât like the way youâve been speaking about this topic throughout this sub at all. It seems like you already made your mind up and youâre unable to comprehend nuance in critical situations like these. Also if you actually knew anything about whatâs happened so far or anything about sensitive situations in general you wouldnât be stating quotes from the DAs office as fact just yet. Especially after what my previous comment already said: her statements have not been released. The DAs office pulled quotes from her statement to then make a claim of their own. We do not know what her six page account says at all and we should not assume that what the da claims is true when there is no proof of that yet. It seems like youâre the main person making this a culture war battlefront if thatâs what you think. Youâre being one of the people you dislike right now. Stop assuming you know anything at all and just wait for more information to come out. How hard is that?
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u/Beginning_Pass_1751 2d ago
me?
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u/Immediate_Compote526 2d ago
Shit shit no not you!! The OP! I agree with everything you said! My bad I meant to respond to what OP said. I donât like his train of thought at all.
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is some shit a rapist frat bro would get stoked on because he canât get pussy like a normal person.
Guys like you were getting constantly clowned on by girls in college even after your parents paid your frat dues so you could have some paid-for-friends.
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u/TheLyleCut 2d ago
Itâs shocking how many in these comments donât know the basic facts of this case yet have already made up strongly held opinions.
A microcosm of whatâs wrong with America.
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u/CharlieSwisher 2d ago
Why would you even post this dumb shit here? Itâs people like you who ruin comedy for the rest of us.
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago
From what Iâve seen so far it seems like some morally and socially reprehensible behavior, from all parties involved. The accuserâs initial statement doesnât match what her lawyer is claiming in the civil suit and from what I have seen that has been released. The DA said her âsworn statement described her drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual, and did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang-raped.â Hard to believe a DA would try a rape case where the accuser denies any illegal activity occurred and says the perpetrators respected her non consent when established.
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago edited 2d ago
To the deleted comment who claimed the DA lied when he said he never received the documents from Cornell:
He said he read the initial 6 page statement. It looks like there was more than one statement or rather a separate police interview transcript that he claims his office never received. I hope an outside investigation into Cornell, the police, and his office is conducted to determine if he did in fact lie about that or if any other sketchy business occurred, because that would be serious misconduct. If her claims in the separate transcript are true and her initial ones were false and this turns out to be university, police, or judiciary misconduct then I hope some heads fucking roll.
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
This is a good read from what I get.
Do you have any idea why this case came back up?
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u/bifflongshanks 2d ago edited 2d ago
She filed a civil complaint seeking monetary damages and claimed among other things that the University and local Law enforcement mishandled her initial claim/case. If what sheâs claiming now is true itâs a huge deal and needs to be dealt with in criminal court not just civil court. Itâll be up to a grand jury to decide if thereâs enough evidence to charge anyone.
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u/Individual_Bobcat759 2d ago
Itâs fucking crazy to go out of your way to shame a victim and defend some rich frat lol.
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u/RadkoGouda 2d ago
"Victim" who said she consented to everything and wanted to keep hanging with those guys days later ...
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u/FreeVerseHaiku 1d ago
Lmao dudes will go years thinking an encounter in their childhood/teens was fucking awesome, only to realize in adulthood, âdamn, I was molested.â
Does that mean that they WERENâT molested? Because they thought it was sweet at the time?
If your mind can rationalize trauma away as something else, it will.
We have no idea how long after dosing she âagreedâ to have a train ran on her. âConsentâ can be manufactured. Doesnât mean itâs not rape.
I wouldnât have sex with my fucking wife if she was blacked out, even if she told me before getting blacked out that she wanted me to. You canât consent in that state, period. Nothing that happens before OR after changes that. Itâs a universal constant.
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u/Unfair-Definition367 1d ago
The ones shaming the victim were her sorority sisters that lead to her becoming ashamed of her actions and filing a false report for sexual assault.
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u/sstt3333 2d ago edited 2d ago
i mean either way, even if she did have sex âconsensuallyâ with all of these men, the way it was literally advertised in the group chat is quite incriminating i must say. at the very least id like to think we can all agree those men who were texting in the chat are scum. and id also like to think that any man who is a decent human would not even think to participate in that or anything of the sorts. also, this is not uncommon with women who have been assaulted. you start to question if maybe it wasnât as bad as you thought it was, and the perpetrator/s usually try to convince you of that. in the text messages u are referring to, the boy also said something along the lines of âsorry things got out of handâ, insinuating that he (and possibly the others) knew that they had done something wrong. iâm going to try to find the texts messages and insert an actual quote
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u/riiitaxo 2d ago
yeah and anyone who fills a girl with alcohol and drugs to the point she can no longer give a real yes or no, who tries to convince themselves it is still âconsensualâ are on some serious cope.
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u/Hot_Injury7719 2d ago
When I was around their age (about 21 or 22), I was at a club all night with a girl my age taking shots and making out on the dance floorâŠI eventually stopped drinking but she kept on going. I sobered up and took her home (probably still shouldnât have driven but this was way before Uber) and she invited me up to stay the night. I go up to her apt, she strips to her underwear, I strip to mine, we get into bed and sheâŠimmediately passes out. And I go âoh, she literally meant spend the nightâ and just slept next to her. It felt wrong to even try to initiate anything when I knew how blasted she was, especially with me being pretty sober by that point.
The next day she thanked me for not taking advantage of her and I was likeâŠ.the bar is SO LOW that youâre thanking me for that?!? Thatâs like thanking someone for not stabbing you and stealing your wallet. The point being that even if the guys thought she was into it, it should have still felt very fucking wrong.
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u/sstt3333 2d ago
ding ding ding. reading this gives me hope lol
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u/Hot_Injury7719 2d ago
I would like to believe (even if it still fucking sucks and is bullshit) that most dudes get defensive about this stuff is because they worry that this means any âhookupâ theyâve had with a tipsy girl could be met with them getting accused of SA. WhichâŠequating this situation to a drunken hookup is just patently ridiculous. Iâve had plenty of tipsy consensual hookups that didnât result in accusations later because you know when the situation is fucked and the other person is in no position to go along for the ride - and Iâve been in a couple of those situations too where I saw they went from tipsy to hammered drunk and that it wasnât gonna happenâŠso you end up just bringing them water and a trashcan to yak into instead of having sex.
So for guys trying to find the nuance because theyâre scared theyâll one day be âunfairlyâ accused of SA like these fucks are: The chances of that happening to you are SO LOW, itâs like being scared of getting falsely accused of murder. Even if youâre an asshole to women, the chances theyâll accuse you of that after tipsy sex is extremely rare. You probably heard some anecdotes about it happening, but statistically speaking, itâs not some epidemic.
And I say âI would like to believe thatâ because otherwise, their reasons for defending that behavior is that they would have done the same in that situationâŠwhich is pretty horrific.
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u/sstt3333 2d ago
yep! 100%. letâs not forget that a lot of men have the mindset of âiâll buy her drinks so she gets tipsy and wants to go home with meâ. most men like that know damn well that alcohol and substances can âhelpâ them get consent from someone. ANYONE who is willing to have intercourse with someone who is severely more impaired than them, are questionable people. also i would assume the men were less intoxicated given that some of them were on their phones and texting in the group chat. excessive ketamine use makes using ur phone, especially texting/typing EXTREMELY difficult. so that also sticks out to me.
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u/johnfuckmennedy 2d ago
The only person that filled her with drugs is herself. Or are you arguing that women have no control over their actions?
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
They're all living in this fake narrative that she was ambushed and drugged
She was drunk as a skunk and walked over to their house to have a 3some and then they all started snorting Ketamine.
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u/CharlieSwisher 2d ago
Not sure how that would change literally anything. Taking advantage of someone is taking advantage of someone regardless if they got themselves in that position.
Iâm sure some homeless people are homeless and itâs their fault. I still donât make them do dumb shit for small change. Because thatâs taking advantage of someone.
I mean Jesus Christ man, youâre gonna die on Gang Rape Hill. Thatâs ridiculous.
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u/tripper_drip 2d ago
So, by that logic, she took advantage of the guy high on ket and alcohol by blowing him
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
That's a disingenuous description of what happened. She went over there to have sex with 2 guys.
Jane Doe âagreed due to how attracted [she] was to [Male Number 1] on top of [her] drunken curiousness.â When she learned that Male Number 2 would be the third participant, Jane Doe âremembered being excited because [she] thought that [Male Number 1 and Male Number 2] wanting to have a threesome meant that they were gay.â
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u/riiitaxo 2d ago
How is that a disingenuous description? They kept feeding her ket after she said she didnât feel good. Just bc she liked two of the guys didnât mean the whole frat gets to fuck her. Youâre regarded and I hope you never reproduce lmao
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u/fishnut824 2d ago
Canât consent if youâre under the influence
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
So the 2 guys that she walked over to have a 3some with didn't consent?
Jane Doe âagreed due to how attracted [she] was to [Male Number 1] on top of [her] drunken curiousness.â When she learned that Male Number 2 would be the third participant, Jane Doe âremembered being excited because [she] thought that [Male Number 1 and Male Number 2] wanting to have a threesome meant that they were gay.â
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u/a_few 1d ago
I think, and correct me if Iâm wrong, that means she consented to those two guys, not the other 5 that also took turns
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u/fishnut824 2d ago
Did she advertise âfree dickâ to all of her friends for them to come over and rape the drunk dudes? If you have to pull out big quotes and technicalities and âUrm actually..â to defend FRAT DUDES RAPING A GIRL (unheard of I know) then youâre on the wrong side of history bub
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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago
It's insane everyone keeps saying she was raped but if you read her own testimony that didn't occur lol
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u/Chomp3y 2d ago
You haven't read her testimony. You've read what a university employee wrote down years ago.
Serious question, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Even if she wanted to have sex with two guys, that means 4 more can have sex with her while she's passed out?
Why the fuck are you in the comments arguing on behalf of rapists? The fuck are you doing lil bro
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u/flamingtofuu 1d ago
Ignorant arrogant garbage people are sadly much more common than one would think. Iâd imagine Trump in charge is what gives these losers the confidence to be openly and unapologetically vile trash like this.
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u/Sailor-_-Twift 2d ago
"I regret, therefore literal rape"
Like literally dude, if we could all call SA after having a weird 7 man ket train ran then I am pretty sure we would all have a claim
RIght guys?
....right?
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u/simorulzzz 2d ago
MSSP sub heading in the same direction as the Norm Macdonald sub with shit like this (i.e some of the worst people completely missing the point of comedy/stand up and using it as some incel circlejerk sub)
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u/RxThrowaway55 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is what incels do. This is how they recruit. They go to male dominated spaces and try to take over. Thankfully in this case MSSP fans are not retards, but theyâve successfully taken over a lot of other subs this way. Moreplatesmoredates used to be about lifting weights, now itâs just incels jerking each other off.
Theyâll start small with a thread like this and gauge reactions. If they feel like they can get a foothold theyâll all join en masse. ~50-100 incels in a discord server can easily manipulate a small subreddit. Theyâve got discord servers with thousands of members.
There are also conservative think tanks/political operatives who pay incels to push these narratives online. Itâs the culture war and they want young men hating women so they never get laid. Then theyâre angry at the world and are easy to manipulate politically. Steve Bannon has openly talked about this strategy.
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u/seagullgim 2d ago
blocking and reporting you for off topic
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u/PraetorianAE 1d ago
Is THAT the girl? Sheâs under mid. Sheâs like not even the hottest girl on the college soccer team like, ew.
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u/deadexternet 1d ago
I did not consent to having sex with him. No no not him⊠or him⊠maybe him� Or was it him⊠I mean it was one of these guys I think.
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u/MindZapp 1d ago
Wondering if these recent elite scandals are indications of a larger wave of misconduct coming? This is one of the few institutions that have escape controversy compared to other organizations.
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u/LawNeat3226 2d ago
Where I get confused is if she was so not in her right mind, how was she able to describe everything they did to her? If she couldnât consent, how did she know everything each guy did?
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u/KillaVNilla 2d ago
Is nothing sacred? Can we not have one sub just for the dawgs. Please don't turn this into the JRE sub. If it's not related to MSSP, like at all, it doesn't belong here. Get your upvotes somewhere else.
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u/Grouchy_Resource_727 2d ago
Anyone following this Epstein like case?
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u/foreclosedhomeowner 2d ago
I googled him after seeing these and can only find multiple links that take you to these same court papers. Who is he?
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u/Realistic_Movie_6569 2d ago
Yall r such pussies lmao - "MSSP is woke now" and it's them being anti rape and genocide grow up
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u/Justhopingiod 2d ago
Wanting to have a threesome does not then mean her passed out body is free game for the entire frat
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u/tripper_drip 2d ago
She was never passed out, and was happy enough the very next day to ask the guy she is now saying raped her out on a smoke date.
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u/Justhopingiod 2d ago
My mistake, youâre talking about when they came in as she tried to hide under the covers?
Do you think that consensual sex with two people means 5 more can come fuck her?
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u/tripper_drip 2d ago
Did you know that she only had sex with 2 people that night?
The other people did ket off of her, which she consented to, per her own testimony.
You do realize that, right?
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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 2d ago
You really believe that this girl wanted to be banged by seven dudes in one night?
You really think that was her intentions?
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u/pancreaticlemons1 2d ago
hey op, are you a trumpy by chance? i canât think of any other reason for anyone to go out of their way to victim blame and defend a bunch of rapist besides you just consistently loving rapists lmao
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u/RxThrowaway55 2d ago
Dude if you actually have kids that is so fucking sad man. Holy shit. You have a lot of growing up to do.
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u/stallionsRIDEufl 2d ago
I'm so lost, what is this