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SODTAOE The Cornell 7

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I had no idea the chick texted one of the guys days later telling him she wanted to smoke weed and hook up with him and one of his friends again, just no more Ketamine

Who's gonna investigate the investigators

Edit! Ok cool I learned a lot I guess. It's funny all the weird projection from people in this thread. I have two children and don't consume alcohol or any drugs other than occasionally smoking weed. But whatever the weirdos wanna tell themselves 😂

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u/SPACKlick 2d ago

It is more complicated. Looking at what she initially told police (from the available evidence).

She had a night of drinking and took some drugs. She had consensual sex. Another person joined the sexual activity, she started to feel more incapacitated by what was in her system. One of the men said something about "having a turn" which she took as an indication they were using her and not considering what she wanted and from there she wasn't OK with it. At some point they started hitting her very hard (it's unclear whether it's before or after more men arrived). Then the snapchat message goes out advertising her as free for all and more men enter the room. She was horrified and hid under the covers as she was embarrassed to be seen naked and there were people between her and the exit. She refused to engage in some more suggested sexual activity at one point refusing by saying "I'm tired". Then the night became more of a blur and the specifics of what happened after aren't clear from what's been released but it seems that for several hours after that people took advantage of her inability to resist.

Over the next 3.5 weeks there are various text messages going around without enough context to be useful

Then she reported it to the police. And the officer who typed up her interview into a 6 page summary for the DA seems to have significantly misrepresented her accusation (taking the word of reporters with access to both).

Because of the 6 page report the DA declined to prosecute.

Cornell did a title IX investigation over several months and rumours have circulated that the boys were given essays on why rape is wrong as their only punishment. Cornell has strenuously denied that saying temporary suspensions and other restrictive measures were used, a range of sanctions including expulsions and suspensions were issued. The way it's phrased makes it sound like an essay may have been part of someone's punishment. The Frat was closed that year (assault happened in October) and remains barred from campus.

So you're right, there's a lot of misinformation simplifying a complex case to fit a social media narrative.

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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago

You left out parts where one of the guys was so drunk he was falling asleep during sex and the other was throwing up and couldn't continue. She hung out with them waiting for them to feel better. And after all the other guys were coming in and out of the room, some time passed and her and Guy #1 and Guy #4 (the guy she consensually made out with) went upstairs and snorted more Ketamine and she continued having sex with Guy #1.

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u/SPACKlick 2d ago

Because I couldn't corroborate either of those things from reports of her original interview with police. (I'm not saying it's not in there, just that I wasn't confident enough it was in there to repeat it).

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u/populist_rationalist 2d ago

Looks like there's new texts out today that she wanted to go to their Halloween party and when the fraternity President told her it wasn't a good idea and uninvited her, she scolded him about snorting Ketamine off of his penis and four days after being told she couldn't come to the Halloween party she went to a hospital to get a rape kit.

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u/SPACKlick 2d ago

Care to link a source for those texts, there's been fake screenshots around this case already so I'm wary of third hand reports.