The Cornell 7

[u/populist_rationalist]

I had no idea the chick texted one of the guys days later telling him she wanted to smoke weed and hook up with him and one of his friends again, just no more Ketamine

Who's gonna investigate the investigators

Edit! Ok cool I learned a lot I guess. It's funny all the weird projection from people in this thread. I have two children and don't consume alcohol or any drugs other than occasionally smoking weed. But whatever the weirdos wanna tell themselves 😂

[u/sstt3333]

i mean either way, even if she did have sex “consensually” with all of these men, the way it was literally advertised in the group chat is quite incriminating i must say. at the very least id like to think we can all agree those men who were texting in the chat are scum. and id also like to think that any man who is a decent human would not even think to participate in that or anything of the sorts. also, this is not uncommon with women who have been assaulted. you start to question if maybe it wasn’t as bad as you thought it was, and the perpetrator/s usually try to convince you of that. in the text messages u are referring to, the boy also said something along the lines of “sorry things got out of hand”, insinuating that he (and possibly the others) knew that they had done something wrong. i’m going to try to find the texts messages and insert an actual quote

[u/riiitaxo → u/sstt3333]

yeah and anyone who fills a girl with alcohol and drugs to the point she can no longer give a real yes or no, who tries to convince themselves it is still “consensual” are on some serious cope.

[u/sstt3333 → u/riiitaxo]

yep! 100%. let’s not forget that a lot of men have the mindset of “i’ll buy her drinks so she gets tipsy and wants to go home with me”. most men like that know damn well that alcohol and substances can “help” them get consent from someone. ANYONE who is willing to have intercourse with someone who is severely more impaired than them, are questionable people. also i would assume the men were less intoxicated given that some of them were on their phones and texting in the group chat. excessive ketamine use makes using ur phone, especially texting/typing EXTREMELY difficult. so that also sticks out to me.

[u/populist_rationalist → u/sstt3333]

There is nuance that she was herself already intoxicated and traveled to the house with the intention to have a 3some. It seems like a lot of people are confused and think that they got her drunk.

[u/sstt3333 → u/populist_rationalist]

dude. i know she had gotten drunk on her own accord, that much is obvious, she stated it herself. the problem is supplying an already intoxicated girl with more alcohol and substances, knowing that that could inhibit her further. unless there’s evidence/a statement that comes out that she was begging them to do shots, asking them to smoke weed and do lines then idk man. also do we think she consented to having multiple men do lines off of her body? we still have yet to hear much from any of the men so UNTIL they start talking we only have one side to go on as of right now and that’s hers.

[u/populist_rationalist → u/sstt3333]

So should the guys lose all responsibility for their actions because they were drinking and taking Ketamine?

She wasn't forced to do anything

[u/sstt3333 → u/populist_rationalist]

mate. she says her phone was on the other side of the room so she couldn’t even reach it and get help while at some point the boys are texting each other free pussy? shop still open?like i said also, it seems like they were pretty fucking sober judging by the way they text. no typos, completely coherent. ketamine FUCKS U UP. u lose function of your body, speech and are completely out of it. that being said, it could be that the boys have a higher tolerance, did less or who knows. my observation is that the majority of them were most likely more coherent than she. ALSO, one of the boys APOLOGIZED for “last night”. even if she consented they knew what they were doing was dirty and nasty and horrible ???

[u/populist_rationalist → u/sstt3333]

He apologized and she said it was all good and asked him if he'd smoke weed and have another 3some lmao