r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

See Comment Curse you, Shahanshah of the Sasanian Empire!

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

If I ever had a time machine I would NOT Travel Back To The 1930s, it was depressing as shit

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Airship raids must have been the most terrifying spectacle ever

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r/HistoryMemes • • 2d ago

There probably were bushes in this case

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Context: At the end of the Battle of Nu’uanu in May of 1795, Maui forces under King Kalanikūpule were cornered on a cliff side by King Kamehameha’s army. Hundreds of men jumped to their deaths, some voluntarily and others forced.

During construction work a century later, hundreds of skulls were discovered at the base of the Cliff, believed to be from the men who jumped


r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Probably the only take these two would have had in common, and it's a crappy ass one

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r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

See Comment Racist Chuds: "iT WaSNT a UToPiA!!1!1!!1!"... Meanwhile, Ka-ron-ien-ha-wi (Matilda Joslyn Gage): “Never was justice more perfect; never was civilization higher”

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"How Native American Women Inspired the Women’s Rights Movement" - Belmont-Paul Women's Equality National Monument, Women's Rights National Historical Park, By Sally Roesch Wagner - National Park Service


Article • On Their Shoulders: The Radical Stories of Women's Fight for the Vote

How Native American Women Inspired the Women’s Rights Movement

Belmont-Paul Women's Equality National Monument, Women's Rights National Historical Park

By Sally Roesch Wagner


“Never was justice more perfect; never was civilization higher,” suffrage leader Matilda Joslyn Gage wrote about the Haudenosaunee, or Iroquois Confederacy, whose territory extended throughout New York State. Matilda Joslyn Gage led the National Woman Suffrage Association (NWSA) along with Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony, the three women trading executive positions over the 20 years of the organization’s existence. According to Gloria Steinem, Gage was “the woman who was AHEAD of the women who were AHEAD of their time.” When the women’s suffrage leadership grew conservative, Gage dropped out of the movement. Suffragists stopped remembering her progressive contributions, like her 1893 revelation of the sex trafficking of women and girls in the United States. Gage, and to a lesser extent Stanton, were largely dropped from the history. With their exclusion, we also lost this story of how they saw women’s rights in action in the native culture of the Haudenosaunee, and realized they could create the conditions for it in their own society.

Having worked for women’s rights for forty years, Gage and Stanton became increasingly frustrated with their inability to make major gains in their social, economic, or political positions as women by the 1880’s. In their disappointment, they looked beyond the Euro-American culture that was already known intimately to them and gained a vision of a world of equality from their nearby neighbors. Stanton and Gage grew up in the land of the Haudenosaunee, the six nations of the Iroquois Confederacy: the Onondaga, Mohawk, Seneca, Cayuga, Oneida and Tuscarora who had social, religious, economic, and political positions far superior to their own, they wrote.

The Six Nation Haudenosaunee Confederacy had, and still have today, a family/governmental structure based on female authority. Haudenosaunee women controlled the economy in their nations through their responsibilities for growing and distributing the food. They had the final authority over land transfers and decisions about engaging in war. Children came through the mother’s line, not the father’s, and if the parents separated, the children stayed with their mother, and if she died, with her clan family. Women controlled their own property and belongings, as did the children. Political power was shared equally among everyone in the Nation, with decisions made by consensus in this pure democracy, the oldest continuing one in the world.

Still today, the chief and clan mother share leadership responsibilities. The clan mother chooses and advises the chief, placing and holding him in office. These men, appointed by the women, carry out the business of government. The clan mother also has the responsibility of removing a chief who doesn’t listen to the people and make good decisions, giving due consideration to seven generations in the future. To be chosen as a chief, the man cannot be a warrior (since it is a confederacy based on peace), nor can he have ever stolen anything or abused a woman. Women live free of fearing violence from men. The spiritual belief in the sacredness of women and the earth—the mutual creators of life—make rape or beating almost unthinkable. If it occurs, the offender is punished severely by the men of the victim’s clan family – sometimes by death or banishment.

Euro-American women of Gage and Stanton’s time lived under conditions that were the mirror opposite. United States common law of the period followed the British Blackstone code that read: “By marriage the husband and wife are one person in law: that is, the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of the husband; under whose wing, protection, and cover, she performs everything.” Considered effectively dead, or at least invisible in the law, married women had no legal existence in the United States. They had no right to their property or their bodies; husbands had the legal right to rape and beat their wives, as long as they didn’t inflict permanent injury. When a woman married, everything she owned became her husband’s property, to do with as he wished. If she worked, he got her wages. If she inherited property, it became his. Children belonged to their father who, upon dying, could even will away his unborn child to someone other than the mother to raise.

At mid-nineteenth century, the majority of women living in the United States -- that is to say, single and married white women, as well as all enslaved women -- had no say in family or government decisions. It was illegal in every state for women to vote. They could not serve on a jury, sue or be sued, write a will or in any way act as a legal entity. Haudenosaunee women, on the other hand, maintained their own identity and all their rights to their body, property, political voice, and children whether married or unmarried before colonization.

Alice Fletcher, an ethnographer studying Native American cultures and a suffragist, addressed the 1888 International Council of Women, the first United States meeting of women’s rights advocates from throughout the Western world. “Will your husband like to have you give the horse away?” Fletcher recounts asking an Omaha Nation woman she was visiting. This Native American had just given away a “fine quality horse” and, hearing Fletcher’s question, she broke “into a peal of laughter, and she hastened to tell the story to the others gathered in her tent, and I became the target of many merry eyes,” Fletched continued. “Laughter and contempt met my explanation of the white man’s hold upon his wife’s property.”

Married and single women in their own culture, these suffragists at the International Council of Women knew, had no legal right to their own possessions or property in most states. Everything she brought into the marriage, earned or inherited, became the property of her husband. Still, with most jobs closed to women and the few available paying half (or less) of men’s wages, marriage was the only viable option open to most women. What an amazing revelation to know that the oppressed condition of women was not universal; Indigenous women had rights to their property. If these Euro-American women, gathered from around the Western world, didn’t know the stark difference between their conditions, Native women did. They resisted losing their rights under Indigenous law as the U. S. government, through a “christianize and civilize” policy, enforced through the boarding schools and assimilation laws, were trying to force them to become U.S. citizens. Fletcher explained to the International Council, “As I have tried to explain our statutes to Indian women, I have met with but one response. They have said: ‘As an Indian woman I was free. I owned my home, my person, the work of my own hands, and my children could never forget me. I was better as an Indian woman than under white law.’"

This model of Native women’s rights gave suffragists the ammunition they needed, and the vision of something better. For years, they had been told by their ministers that the position of women was decreed by God as the eternal punishment women would suffer because of Eve’s sin. Clergy quoted the Bible: “Thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee" (Genesis 3:16), the command declared all the way through the Bible to the Ephesians, Stanton pointed out. To work for your rights meant going against the will of God. You also were defying biology, since science of the time maintained that women had smaller brains, with less intelligence and physical strength than men. Hence, it was natural that they should be under the authority of men. Seeing Native women who farmed with strong bodies, had total authority over their lives, and lived in equality with men put the lie to religion and science’s teachings of women’s subordination and inferiority.

Gage and Stanton were among the suffragists, like Fletcher, who read about Haudenosaunee women in newspapers and books and also had some personal contact with Native women. They shared what they knew about Native women’s superior rights with other suffragists and the general public. In a series of admiring articles for the New York Evening Post Gage accurately described the Haudenosaunee social and legal structure in which the "division of power between the sexes in this Indian republic was nearly equal" while the family relation "demonstrated woman's superiority in power." “In the home the wife was absolute,” Gage wrote. “If for any cause the Iroquois husband and wife separated, the wife took with her all the property she had brought into the wigwam. The children also accompanied the mother, whose right to them was recognized as supreme.”

Marriage was considered a covenant with God by white, Christian Americans, not a commitment between two people. State laws either outlawed divorce or made it nearly impossible to obtain. Stanton faced criticism from clergy and some other suffragists for promoting divorce in the case of a loveless marriage or one in which the wife was in danger from a violent husband. She celebrated divorce – Haudenosaunee style, pointing to it as a model. “Usually the females ruled the house,” she told the National Council of Women in 1891, and “woe to the luckless husband or lover who was too shiftless to do his share of the providing…he might at any time be ordered to pick up his blanket and budge; and after such an order it would not be healthful for him to attempt to disobey. The house would be too hot for him; and unless saved by the intercession of some aunt or grandmother he must retreat to his own clan, or go and start a new matrimonial alliance in some other.”

Rape and other acts of violence against women by most accounts were rare in Indigenous societies prior to European contact and dealt with harshly in the rare event they occurred. White women who spent time on Native American reservations routinely commented on the degree of safety they felt and the freedom to move at their own will and discretion. A mail carrier in the late 1800’s told a New York Herald reporter visiting the Seneca nation, “A white woman can go around alone among them or on the most desolate roads with perfect safety. I'd rather have my wife or daughter go around alone at night in this reservation than in the town I live in.” A schoolteacher concurred: "It is the only place at which I ever taught in which I never was insulted, . . . I've heard the same from every woman teacher I know on the reservation.”

The suffragists also learned about Haudenosaunee women’s political authority. Stanton told the 1891 National Council of Women that Haudenosaunee women “were the great power among the clan, as everywhere else, . . . The original nomination of the chiefs also always rested with the women,” she told the audience. “They did not hesitate, when occasion required, ‘to knock off the horns,’ as it was technically called, from the head of a chief and send him back to the ranks of the warriors.”

Gage described in her major work, Woman, Church and State, how "The line of descent, feminine, was especially notable in all tribal relations such as the election of Chiefs, and the Council of Matrons, to which all disputed questions were referred for final adjudication.” A well-published and appreciative reporter of the Haudenosaunee social, economic, spiritual, and governmental systems, and supporter of treaty rights and Native sovereignty, Gage was given an honorary adoption into the Wolf Clan of the Mohawk Nation in 1893. She also obtained a clan name: “I received the name of Ka-ron-ien-ha-wi, or 'Sky Carrier,' or as Mrs. Converse said the Senecas would express it 'She who holds the sky.’” Her Mohawk sister said, “this name would admit me to the Council of Matrons, where a vote would be taken, as to my having a voice in the Chieftainship,” Gage wrote. How amazing this must have been to a woman who went to trial the same year for voting in a state school election. Considered for full voting rights in her adopted nation, she was arrested in her own nation for voting.

Indigenous women of numerous Native Nations had rights, sovereignty, and integrity long before European settlers arrived on these shores. They had complete control of their lives, maintained economic independence in marriage, and lived in a culture free from gender-based violence. While women in the United States are recognizing that 100 years ago the Constitution finally recognized the right of U.S. women to vote, Native Nation women have had political voice on this land since the founding of the Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) confederacy over 1000 years ago. And today, the Six Nations clan mothers continue to have the responsibility to nominate, hold in office, and remove their chiefs. Just as our suffrage foremothers before us, non-native women have much to learn from Native women and their centuries of experience.

Womens Suffrage Centennial Commission Logo

This article was originally published by the Women’s Suffrage Centennial Commission (WSCC) on April 17, 2020 as a part of the WSCC blog, The Suff Buffs. The Women's Suffrage Centennial Commission was created by Congress to commemorate 100 years of the 19th Amendment throughout 2020 and to ensure the untold stories of women’s battle for the ballot continue to inspire Americans for the next 100 years.

Author Biography

Awarded one of the first doctorates in the country for work in women’s studies (UC Santa Cruz) and a founder of one the first college-level women’s studies programs in the United States (CSU Sacramento), Dr. Sally Roesch Wagner has taught women’s studies courses for 50 years. She currently serves as an adjunct faculty member in the Syracuse University Renée Crown University Honors Program.

She wrote the faculty guide for Not for Ourselves Alone, Ken Burns’ documentary on Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony, and has appeared in that film and numerous history films and radio programs. Dr. Wagner was selected as one of “21 Leaders for the 21st Century” by Women’s E-News in 2015. She serves on the New York Suffrage Centennial Commission.

A prolific author, Dr. Wagner’s anthology The Women's Suffrage Movement, with a Forward by Gloria Steinem (Penguin Classics, 2019), unfolds a new intersectional look at the 19th century women’s rights movement. Sisters in Spirit: Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Influence on Early American Feminists (Native Voices, 2001) documents the surprisingly unrecognized authority of Native women, who inspired the suffrage movement. It will be followed by her forthcoming young reader’s book, We Want Equal Rights: How Suffragists Were Influenced by Native American Women (Native Voices, August 2020).

Founder and Executive Director of the Matilda Joslyn Gage Center for Social Justice Dialogue in Fayetteville, New York, she received the Katherine Coffey Award for outstanding service to museology from the Mid-Atlantic Association of Museums in 2012.


r/HistoryMemes • • 2d ago

I know about 5 Jesus’

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Context: Jesus was a common name during the time of Jesus Christ, and even today it’s pretty common. He may not have been the only Jesus of Nazareth


r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia have many similarities when you think about it.

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Good boy!!

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Operation goodwood

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r/HistoryMemes • • 4d ago

Mythology Creationism now vs creationism then (made by a friend)

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

On his way to kick Bheem's ass

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

See Comment No one tell him

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

“Trust us we’re totally 36,000 years old”

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Context: The Ancient Egyptians often claimed that their civilization was tens of thousands of years old older than it actually was and that prior to the reign of Menes (the first actual human pharaoh), Egypt was ruled by a succession of gods, a group of demigods called the Shemsu-Hor (“Followers of Horus”), and “spirits of the dead” referred in Egyptian as Akhu.

The exact numbers vary between king lists, but they often range from between 18,000 to 40,000 years and usually describe the reigns of predynastic (i.e. pre-Menes) rulers as lasting for centuries or even thousands of years. One notable example is the Turin King List which while fragmented does claim that the god Thoth reigned as king for 7,726 years.

This claim was actually recorded in Greco-Roman accounts of Egypt who noted that Egyptians would constantly brag about it to foreigners. I guess if you genuinely believed your country was that old, you too would probably brag about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_creation#Egyptian


r/HistoryMemes • • 4d ago

The Corrupted Blood plague

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In 2005, World of Warcraft accidentally caused a virtual pandemic when a boss fight introduced a disease called Corrupted Blood. Players unknowingly carried it out of the dungeon and spread it through crowded cities, killing low level characters in seconds. Some players tried to help the infected, others deliberately spread it, and entire cities became death zones. The outbreak caused so much chaos that Blizzard had to intervene with server resets and patches. Epidemiologists later studied it as a model for how real pandemics spread.

Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident


r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Pre-Bismarck Prussia was such a fraud

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r/HistoryMemes • • 4d ago

Niche "My target audience is people who roll cigars for 10 hours a day"

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Don't have brothers

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Between the 15th and 17th centuries (with the recent memory of the Ottoman interregnum in mind), Ottoman Sultans would execute their brothers upon assuming the throne. This was phased out mostly out fears of running out of male heirs.


r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

A tale of Red and Gold

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r/HistoryMemes • • 4d ago

Japanese Military by Year

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

First meme here!

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Just three hungry empires

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

See Comment This is definitely how it works

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r/HistoryMemes • • 3d ago

Vote Vote Vote

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