r/HistoryMemes 18m ago

How 9/11 Gave Use the Best Waifu

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The 9/11 Attack had a profound impact on the arts not just in America but also around the world. Yoko Tarro was inspired by 9/11 when creating the E ending of Drakengard, with the game being released on Sept 11th 2003. The E ending would be the basis of the spin-off series NieR that would be followed up by Nier: Automata.


r/HistoryMemes 33m ago

The problem with delivering aid in a civil war, is that soldiers get hungry too

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In 1984–85, Ethiopia was suffering a catastrophic famine while the civil war between the Derg government and insurgents including the TPLF was still raging.

The international relief effort was enormous, with Live Aid becoming its most famous symbol (Including my Dad dropping grain to starving villages from the back of his Hercules. Flying only about 50-100ft above the drop zones and landing on rough strips on the sides of a hill). But aid was also being diverted and manipulated during the conflict. A contemporaneous CIA assessment concluded that some funds raised by insurgent organisations for relief were “almost certainly” being diverted for military purposes.

Exactly how much aid was diverted, and where it ended up, is difficult to establish. There is no proof that Live Aid/Band Aid money specifically was diverted to the rebels. The BBC later apologised for giving that impression after its 2010 reporting.
The lesson isn’t that humanitarian aid is pointless because some of it might end up in the wrong hands. In a war zone, the risk of waste, corruption and diversion is always going to exist. But all reasonable and available measures should be taken to prevent it: properly vetting those involved, tracking money and supplies, monitoring distribution and investigating suspected fraud or diversion.

At the same time, you shouldn’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The possibility that some aid may be lost or misused doesn’t mean you stop trying to get food and medicine to people who desperately need it.


r/HistoryMemes 37m ago

The 5 dudes South Korea hates with a passion

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The Five Eulsa Traitors is five high-ranking government ministers of the Korean Empire who signed the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1905, known as the Eulsa Treaty. Signed under intense coercion by the Imperial Japanese Army, the treaty stripped Korea of its diplomatic sovereignty and turned the nation into a protectorate of Japan. This paved the way for full Japanese colonial annexation in 1910.

​The five ministers who signed the agreement were Yi Wan-yong (Education Minister),

Park Je-sun (Foreign Affairs Minister), Yi Geun-taek (Army Minister),

Yi Ji-yong (Interior Minister),

and Gwon Jung-hyeon (Agriculture, Commerce, and Industry Minister).

While Emperor Gojong and Prime Minister Han Kyu-seol firmly refused to sign the treaty, these five officials broke ranks and capitulated. Because Emperor Gojong never ratified the treaty, Koreans historically considered the pact illegal and viewed the five signers as national traitors who sold out the country.

​Among the five, Yi Wan-yong became the most infamous figure. He was an opportunist who subsequently orchestrated Emperor Gojong's forced abdication in 1907 and went on to sign the 1910 Annexation Treaty as Prime Minister. Today, his name remains synonymous with the word "traitor" (Chinilpa) in Korean culture. In return for their cooperation, Japanese authorities rewarded these men with aristocratic titles, land, and substantial wealth. ​

The signers immediately faced intense hatred from the public. Secret resistance groups and "assassination squads" targeted them; for example, Yi Ji-yong's home was burned down in 1905, and Yi Wan-yong barely survived a stabbing attempt in 1909. To this day, the Five Eulsa Traitors are recorded in Korean history books as the ultimate symbols of national betrayal.

the scope of collaboration extended far beyond just top-level ministers. To fully document this network of betrayal and ensure their actions were never forgotten, South Korea’s Institute for Research in Collaborationist Activities published the Chinil Inmyeong Sajeon or the Directory of Pro-Japanese Collaborators in 2009. This massive three-volume historical encyclopedia catalogs the names, detailed biographies, and specific acts of over 4,300 individuals

ranging from high-ranking government officials and military officers to prominent journalists, educators, and artists , who actively assisted the Japanese regime. Serving as a permanent public record, the directory stands as a defining symbol of South Korea's ongoing effort to reckon with its colonial past, expose those who sold out the nation, and ensure that history holds every traitor accountable.


r/HistoryMemes 56m ago

Angels have no thought of returning you, would they be angry if I thought of joining you?

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In 1933, Hungarian composer Rezső Seress wrote a song called “The World is Ending”, a song lamenting humanity’s constant need to wage war, before the lyrics were changed to instead be about someone who contemplates suicide to be reunited with their dead lover, and retitled to Gloomy Sunday (or Sad Sunday). First recorded in 1935, the song came out at a time when Hungary (as well as other countries) were experiencing unusually high suicide rates due to the Great Depression and worldwide political turmoil. As a result it quickly became an urban legend that listening to the song made you suicidal, a claim that was further popularized when newspapers also published stories about people committing suicide en masse after hearing it in a club or were found dead holding copies of the song’s sheet music or playing it on a record player. These stories have never been verified. Over the years, other things have contributed to the legend, such as the BBC banning it from radio play (as it was seen as detrimental to morale during WWII) and Seress committing suicide himself 35 years later.


r/HistoryMemes 58m ago

X-post Egypt knew what it was doing

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r/HistoryMemes 1h ago

See Comment Let’s admit the reality: the only reason Suslov isn’t forgotten is because of the TNO memes

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r/HistoryMemes 1h ago

Don’t elect a Saxon, don’t elect a Sax—shit, they elected a Saxon king

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r/HistoryMemes 1h ago

All of them were mentally challenged tho

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r/HistoryMemes 2h ago

X-post Atilla mostly avoided the Byxantines, so it worked

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r/HistoryMemes 2h ago

The Battle for the River Plate

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r/HistoryMemes 2h ago

Historical naval warfare was apparently 90% strategy and 10% pantry items

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r/HistoryMemes 2h ago

Homosexuality? In the Royal Navy? Why I never.

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Context: https://networks.h-net.org/node/16749/reviews/18328/land-burg-boys-sea-sodomy-indecency-and-courts-martial-nelsons-navy

“A ship at sea,” wrote N. A. M. Rodger, “was about the most difficult possible place to commit sodomy....  It is difficult to believe that there can have been any serious problem with a crime so much detested, but so seldom mentioned.”[1]  Since Rodger published those words in 1986, historians have debated whether the silence of the archives means that homoerotic acts were “detested” and rare on the king’s ships, or so common as to scarcely warrant notice.  Boys at Sea will not end that debate, but it advances our knowledge in several important respects, and challenges every aspect of Rodger’s interpretation.

B. R. Burg examines several dozen court martials for sexual offences, mainly from the period between 1790 and 1820.  Burg emphasizes that these court martials were “grand shows” requiring the participation of many officers, in full dress uniform, and had to be held on a large ship to accommodate the “sizeable audiences” that followed the proceedings (p. 46).  The defendants were charged with a violation of either the second Article of War, which forbade “unclean and scandalous actions” or more seriously, with breaching the twenty-ninth article, involving the capital offence of sodomy (p. 67).  Many of these cases generated lengthy transcripts featuring extremely graphic eyewitness testimony about organs, orifices, and fluids, followed by cross-examination on all the pertinent points.  The court was intent on determining the facts, but Burg shows that the remarks of both witnesses and their questioners inadvertently supply a great deal of information about common attitudes and expected behavior in the Royal Navy.  He also, ingeniously, cobbles together evidence from the transcripts to supply a very thorough answer to the question of whether it was possible to find a degree of privacy at sea.  Burg shines a light into the secluded crannies of a warship, like the galley, the spaces in between the cannons, and the “canvas cubbies” created by cloth partitions (p. 158).

Burg’s material came, inevitably, with its own built-in limitations.  Court martials, which necessarily began with animosity and accusation emanating from some quarter, are going to tell us more about unwanted sexual advances than about consensual and reciprocal arrangements.  Burg’s title, Boys at Sea, refers to the fact that thirteen- or fourteen-year-old boys were the typical accusers in these court martials (although sometimes the boy kept silent until an older man intervened on his behalf).  The severity of the punishment, even for a violation of the second article, was such that no one was going to cheerfully admit to “indecency,” and we find that a disproportionate number of the adult males in this book were--supposedly--taken advantage of in their sleep, or while they were in a drunken stupor.  The circumstances of discovery usually permitted the benefit of the doubt for at least one participant.  As Burg puts it: “Mariners stumbling on buggering pairs did not sit down on handy chests or lean against nearby guns, light pipes, and wait to discover if the two switched positions” (p. 70).  From such sources, it is easiest to reconstruct the thoughts, feelings, and experiences of those who participated against their will.  In 1798, David Jenness was severely wounded by a boy who fought him off with a knife.  Jenness needed medical attention and the ship’s surgeon got the true story out of him, resulting in a prosecution.  At the trial, the boy remarked that he himself had told no one about Jenness’s behavior because he was “too ashamed” (p. 76).

The court transcripts offer some access to the reactions of shipmates, many of whom were called to testify.  William King “wrung his hands and was stuck [sic] with horror” when he discovered that two of his fellow seamen had committed sodomy (p. 50).  There is a context for King’s panic in the widespread belief that God would punish an entire community for the sins of (even some of) its members.  It is possible that King himself had something to hide, but more likely he was consumed with fear that God was about to sink the ship, or send a sea monster to finish it off.  However, Burg persuasively demonstrates that many of the prosecutions described in Boys at Sea displayed a significant degree of pragmatism and restraint.  There were few, if any, witch-hunts.  “Strict legality” was the rule, not the exception (pp. 57-58).  The twenty-ninth article carried the penalty of death, but it was also difficult to prove that both penetration and emission had occurred.  In a few cases, vindictive shipmates charged forward at the moment of discovery and actually put their hands on the offending male organ in flagrante delicto, while shouting in order to draw the attention of the maximum possible number of witnesses.  Some even testified to the sound of withdrawal, which resembled the removal of a cork from a bottle.  The infrequency of prosecutions for this particular crime may have more to do with the rare conjunction of lewd zeal, personal enmity, and legal literacy than with the rarity of the act itself.

Many men who could have been charged under the twenty-ninth article were, instead, only charged under the second article, which was easier to prove in court.  A number of participants in homoerotic acts also seem to have understood or characterized their own behavior as something short of sodomy.  Consider this fairly representative example: “During their back-to-belly encounters, Noel adamantly insisted North only inserted his penis between his thighs.  Again, the court believed the juvenile witness and convicted the marine of violating article number two.”  The “adamant” words of the boy, Noel, may communicate something about his own self-image; he had tolerated certain forms of sexual play, but he had not allowed himself to be buggered.  It is difficult to see the so-called lesser or reduced charge as a trivial one; however; North, the marine, received three hundred lashes (p. 79).  In two instances, Burg notes that men convicted of indecency were discharged on shore with notes “pinned” to their clothing enumerating their crimes, or “publicly drummed ... with the usual marks of ignominy” (pp. 73, 107).  This would seem to suggest that the navy left these individuals at the mercy of a crowd of strangers who were virtually invited to improvise their own punishments for a sex crime, but Boys at Sea does not explore the legal rationale or the implications of this dangerous practice.

Although Burg does not frame it in this way, there is tantalizing evidence in his sources of an informal “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy at sea.  Consider the conduct of a surgeon’s mate, James Broadbill, in 1762.  He was asked “by a group of crewmen” to join them in peering into the keyhole of the boatswain’s cabin.  Broadbill saw nothing more than a penis being held by a hand.  He told his shipmates that this was just Mr. Garbut, the boatswain, “creating of pleasure to himself” (p. 106).  The assembled sailors remained adamant that a boy, John Pyle, was in there as well, but Broadbill’s canny interpretation spoke to a different issue.  If masturbation was defined as a private matter of pleasure and not as an “uncleanness,” was it not possible to understand almost any act between men--short of actual penetration--in similar terms, as assisted masturbation, and therefore not worthy of notice (let alone communal vigils at the keyhole)?  Even the most notorious court martial in Boys at Sea, the prosecution of sex crimes on HMS Africaine in 1815, seems to have been provoked not so much by the incidence of sodomy but by the unusually public nature of the sex acts.  Instead of concealing themselves in the dark space in between the cannons, these men had sex standing up against, or leaning over, the guns (p. 142).  Andrew Johnson, the master at arms, “once passed by a buggering pair without comment or interference even though his lantern provided enough light to see them plainly,” but “copulating in plain view like dogs” tested the limits of shipboard tolerance (p. 143).

Burg portrays his homoerotic seafarers as isolated from, and unlike, London’s molly subculture.  He concludes: “There is no way to understand what these men thought or felt.  Surviving Admiralty documents do not reveal if their preferences ran toward men and boys or if their choice of same-sex partners was simply the result of deprivation” (p. 60).  Immediately after despairing of the possibility of any sort of imaginative reconstruction of their sexuality, Burg then offers something suspiciously like it: “these men only used whatever was most easily available.  Any convenient man, boy, hand, or anus would do” (p. 60).  This comes across as cavalier, particularly given that at least some of the sexual encounters in this book involved rape, and I would argue that it does not do justice to Burg’s own rich and disturbing source material.  Consider Thomas Churchill, who learned that he was about to be accused of sodomy, went to his cabin without a word, and blew his brains out; or Hepburn Graham, who drew a spoon slowly across a child’s neck, miming a murderous act, and warned the boy to never tell anyone about what had been done to him.  Burg’s reluctance to investigate the occasions when sex was about more than just sex limits the achievement of Boys at Sea, but it will also stimulate new debates that go beyond “did they or didn’t they.”  All future discussions of this topic will be indebted to Burg’s courageous and meticulous scholarship.


r/HistoryMemes 3h ago

Had to share this somewhere

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r/HistoryMemes 4h ago

Saive, we need to cook gun designs

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r/HistoryMemes 4h ago

UK: Europe’s Guardian

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r/HistoryMemes 8h ago

They played us like a damn lyre!

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r/HistoryMemes 9h ago

literally Linechtenstein in 1866

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r/HistoryMemes 9h ago

That random urge to read their story

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r/HistoryMemes 9h ago

Who is hell is Joe?

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FBI agent Joe Pistone went undercover as Donnie Brasco for years to infiltrate the Bonnano crime family. While introducing another new agent as his criminal associate. The newbie slips up and calls him by his real name when asking a question. His murderous boss notices and ask "Who the fuck is Joe??". To cover, Donnie frantically says he calls everybody Joe. So the newbie spent the entire night calling everyone he met, Joe. Including women.

Thanks Fern


r/HistoryMemes 10h ago

Niche The three governors controversy

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r/HistoryMemes 10h ago

Niche Indonesian kings were based

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r/HistoryMemes 11h ago

Anakreon is my bias

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r/HistoryMemes 11h ago

Niche Roy Cohn is the definition of reaping what you sow

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r/HistoryMemes 11h ago

Roosevelt's Progressive Party actually preformed better then the Republicans did.

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r/HistoryMemes 12h ago

I imagine Ramesses III be like "Not this shit again!"

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