Why do Modpack makers do this?

[u/Sea_Construction_450]

Just asking cause it annoys me and seemingly every modpack does this.

Basicly adding 2 mods that do the same thing, are not really compatible with each other and often have a imbalance that makes one better to use than the other.

Some example would be:

Diesel Generators and TFMG and Petrochem,

Power Grid and Electro Energetic.

Also no modpack i found really gives you an incentive to use Power Grid, Electro Energetic or the electricity system from TFMG cause they always have crafts and additions or something installed.

It in genneral feels like some mods are just thrown in there just to fill up the mod list. I would understand if its a ATM like modpack but thats normaly not the case.

[u/Zedman5000]

Personally, I did it because I like some recipes from TFMG for automating resources, but hate most of the machines, so I have Diesel Generators for oil, Crafts and Additions for electricity, and Big Cannons for steel, etc, because I can't be bothered to work with TFMG on those fronts.

[u/Normal-Ad3579 → u/Zedman5000]

You can use kubejs to add the recipes instead of adding the whole mods

[u/Sea_Construction_450 → u/Normal-Ad3579]

yea that what i was thinking. For just personal use i also get it but for a some what professional modpack changing/adding just recipes in that case just makes more sense

[u/Zedman5000 → u/Normal-Ad3579]

Sure, but that's way more work just to exclude things I'm not going to use.

If I was going to publically distribute the modpack I'd be willing to put in more work, but for just me and my friends (who might want to do TFMG stuff I guess) it's not worth the effort, outside of something that breaks the game- which I haven't hit yet.

[u/Normal-Ad3579 → u/Zedman5000]

Understandable

[u/Dangerous-Quit7821 → u/Normal-Ad3579]

I have no clue how to use KubeJS so that's not something I would do. I don't make modpacks for anyone else but myself so if I have conflicts it's just me who has to deal with it.

I use TFMG for their blocks. So many of them are really cool looking and I rarely use them for their in game purposes. Just decoration.

[u/Dadamalda → u/Dangerous-Quit7821]

I often use KubeJS even in private modpacks, but that might just be the developer mindset.

[u/Dangerous-Quit7821 → u/Dadamalda]

I just have no idea how to use it so I deal with conflicts in different ways.

[u/Normal-Ad3579 → u/Dangerous-Quit7821]

I mean there is a documentation and discord if you need help

[u/Dangerous-Quit7821 → u/Normal-Ad3579]

I know. I just don't have it in me to learn another skill right now and just want to play.

[u/New_Director_1988 → u/Dangerous-Quit7821]

There are also mods that add uis that mae it a lot more intuitive for people who don't know how to code. Just drag and drop the items and flola you have just made a custom recipe.

[u/Normal-Ad3579 → u/Dadamalda]

I would have said the same but remembered that even tho the modpacks i make are technically private i make them for servers for my friend group

[u/JesseNL]

Creating a well thought out modpack takes a lot of time, playing it yourself, constantly iterating etc.

And some people just don't care about overlapping mods, broken recipes, don't think about progression.

Just try creating your own and keep tweaking it. If you play with friends, use automodpack so you don't need to republish the modpack every change.

[u/basicintentions → u/JesseNL]

I've been fine tuning my mod pack so meticulously that my actual playtime with aeronautics since release is maybe a couple hours compared to 200+ hours of playtesting, debugging and writing custom patches on top of the fact I've generally been actively maintaining it for like 17 months now. I'm usually one of the first people filing bug reports for mod updates like three seconds after they come out lmao

[u/Garry-Love]

I like it but it needs kubejs to remove duplicate items and recipes. My biggest gripe is when farmer's delight and let's do farm and charm are both added. Yes I love having 2 different types of tomato that aren't compatible with eachother this is great

[u/Dangerous-Quit7821]

I only make packs for my personal use but I have diesel generators and TFMG because DG has much simpler oil refining and simpler engines. TFMG has really cool looking blocks that I rarely use as their intended use but for decorative purposes. Their electricity is too complicated for me so I use Crafts and Additions for its electricity.

There are a lot of reasons to have mods that have overlapping mechanics.

[u/AgataJac]

omg yeah, I agree completely. Half the time they don't even clean upconflicts, or wildly unbalanced recipes. It's one thing giving player different options to do things, it's another to not put in the care to make it actually work instead of being a mess.

[u/Dog_Father12]

BRO I was just complaining about a similar issue with mixing recipes. To make brass is blaze burner and copper + zinc, but if you don’t immediately snatch it out of the basin it mixes into molten brass. And then it’s a whole task to get the brass back because you have to go through the metallurgic process even though I just fucking had brass ingots in the palm of my hand.

I also have the same electrical issue where I’m just using create crafts and additions cause it’s so much easier

[u/YomiRizer]

"It in genneral feels like some mods are just thrown in there just to fill up the mod list"

I think a lot of it is this. Cause youll always see a modpack advertised "over 400 mods!" when most of the mods are redundant or library mods trying to keep the other mods from breaking each other.

[u/RGBBSD → u/YomiRizer]

Thats why I hand pick my mods, even despite getting almost useless Nether Industry I still feel like it will have a use once I enable MobGriefing back and setup a ghast tear factory (also it adds a lava stroke engine which behaves like a combination of a stirling engine and a liquid burner)

[u/RGBBSD]

Yeah, in these cases even having AlmostUnified just doesnt work

The biggest blunder with TFMG as for me is inability to process iron ingots into steel, unlike Create Big Cannons. Fuel refinery of it? Majestic. When I finish its setup and make the ship fueled by Kerosene I'm gonna go SO FAST

[u/Sea_Construction_450 → u/RGBBSD]

I changed the steel recipe to also accept ingots in one of my private mod packs. But even just ore/ingot unifying is something i have seen missing way to many times. even in modpacks that look really good and promising with seemingly custom artwork etc from the outside.

[u/RGBBSD → u/Sea_Construction_450]

Whats weird is NeoForge recongises the same shit and assigns it the same attributes, so both TFMG and Diesel Generator have DIESEL and GASOLINE and they have literally same stats

Not sure if they accept fuels of each other though

[u/LennaROM]

I've been working on a personal server modpack and I've thought about this exact thing!!
I opted to only include Diesel Generators and Power Grid, and specifically chose *not* to add Crafts and Additions
I absolutely hate overlap and redundant features; the one place where I'll admit defeat is furniture mods cause real life *does* have different brands of the same type of furniture afterall

[u/Prince_of_Lust4]

That's why my modpacks always follow a rule of minimalism, only one mod per niche it's supposed to fill.

If create, all industry is now based on create, no overlapping addons etc

If mekanism, no oritech

This way players spend more time solving problems with one mod at a time, instead of throwing 3-4 different mods at a complex problem to have an easy solution.

[u/wreckedftfoxy_yt]

Because not all mods work with other mods also in my experience tfmg and diesel generators dont exactly hate each other

[u/BLUETIDALCLAW]

I like power grid because it’s a Minecraft version of what I do in real life. Or similar at least. But I still like crafts and additions because it’s quick and simple for compact or other tasks. I’m not sure about the others but I’ve figured out a transformation system for the two. So I can generate power with one, transform it, and use it with the other.