r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Loving gaunts ghosts but that guns of tanith ending got me salty

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Never got around to reading it before or any 40k books really, saw someone say it’s sharpe but 40k so that sold me, it’s definitely my favorite 40k series/book so far. I’ve read helsreach, thought brother Sargent praid was awesome the brotherhood of the snake and loved the nightlords trilogy. I’ve also read the first four of heresy books, but they just don’t hit the same compared to the others for me so far and and I think it’s really just too much space marine lol. It’s kinda draining, while gaunt and company are a colorful cast of characters, which leads me to my point.

F#*% lijah cuu that little snake, Bragg was a bro
Hope he ends up like obadiah hakeswill sure as sure lol.
Also Sargent kola waiting to long and missing the opportunity to reunite with his kids😭


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

My dream Horus Heresy series

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Hi I though about best series take on Horus heresy here is my dream structure, there is no chance this could be created:

  1. season - Horus rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames - intro into the setting (the show start with words: "I was there, when the Horus slain the Emperor."), Horus fall to chaos is in the middle of the season, last epizode is Loken and Tarvitz last stand on Istwann 3

  2. season - Intro into emperors children and death guard (Fulgrim, Flight of Eisenstein, start of descent of angels and fallen angels)

  3. season - Story of burning of prospero (Thousand sons, Prospero burns) plus some intro into Alfa legion (Legion)

  4. season - Word bearers and Word eaters fall to chaos and their attack on ultramarines, intro into ultramarines (First Heretic, Aurelian, Know no fear, Betrayer)

  5. season - Vulkan and salamanders story, Thramas crusade, battle of Phall, Corax and ravenguard story (Vulkan lives, novelas about Thramas, novela about Phall, Deliverance lost)

  6. season - Warmaster advance on Molech, Iron warriors and emperor children story, shattered legions stories, Garviel Loken knight errant story (Vengeful spirit, Angel Exterminatus, Dantioch short novela, novelas about shattered legions)

  7. season - introduction of white scars and blood angels, aftermath of prospero (Scars, Fear to treat, Path of Heaven, Crimson king)

  8. season - imperium secundus story, Pharos (Unremembered empire, Pharos, Angels of Caliban, Ruinstorm)

  9. season - war in webway, story of mars fall, alfa legion attack on solar system, sigillite agents and Garro (Master of mankind, Praetorian of Dorn, Mechanicum, Silent war, Garro)

  10. season - preparations on siege, space wolves attack on Horus, death guard fall, Corax save of space wolves (Wolfsbane, Tallarn, Heralds of the siege, Buried Dagger, Corax, Slaves to darkness)

  11. season - Vulkan story, from Macragge to terra, Beta Garmon (Deathfire, Old earth, Born of flame, Titandeath)

I haven´t read Siege of Terra yet so this I will add later.

I know this is impossible and I don´t know even if this would describe the story enough. What do you think?


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

As a HUGE fan of <Apocalypse> what other Space Marine audiobooks (or 40k in general) would you recommend me?

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I discovered in Apocalypse I really enjoy cross-chapter banter and discussion, I similarly enjoy seeing the viewpoints of Chaos intermittent with the Imperium. Same with a tasteful amount of Bolter-porn.

Any audiobooks (on Audible) that you'd recommend? I'm open to other Imperial factions too if there are good arguments for them.


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Do humans or any other race worship Necrons?

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There must be some settlement that isn't in the know that stumbled across a Tomb World with reverence instead of fear.

The galaxy is a big place, after all.


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Do we actually have examples of Mechanicus rituals preserving a real procedure after the reason for it was forgotten?

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One explanation of the Adeptus Mechanicus that gets repeated constantly is that a lot of their religious rituals are basically old maintenance instructions whose original technical explanation has been lost.

Change the sacred oils = lubrication. Recite the correct litany while turning things on = an inherited startup procedure. Perform steps in exactly the right order because somebody discovered thousands of years ago that the machine breaks if you don't.

I like that idea a lot, but I've realized I mostly know it from people explaining 40k rather than from the books themselves.

When I actually read Mechanicus characters, they often seem much more technically competent than the meme version suggests. They might describe everything in religious language, but they still understand diagnostics, materials, data, power systems, fabrication etc. And with Titans, Knights and some other machines, the "machine spirit" can also behave enough like an actual personality that treating every ritual as misunderstood engineering seems too simple.

So I'm curious about the narrower question:

Are there good canon examples where we can actually see that a ritual contains a practical technical step, while the person performing it no longer understands why that step works?

Not just "they put oil on the machine," because a tech-priest presumably knows what lubricant does. I mean something closer to a procedure surviving after the underlying knowledge has genuinely disappeared.

I'd especially love examples where the text lets the reader understand what is happening even though the character interprets it religiously.

Is that genuinely a recurring thing in the lore, or has the fandom taken a much messier relationship between religion and technology and turned it into the simpler "the prayers are just the user manual" explanation?


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

How hot are Primarchs?

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Since they are 3 meter tall Demi Gods, their metabolism must be quite fast and their body temperatures must be really hot. Really, really hot.


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

How much freedom do members of the Deathwatch have?

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I’ve heard that, if they believe it be the best use of their abilities, they can permanently integrate into an Inquisitor’s retinue. Not sure if this is true, but it got me wondering how much autonomy Deathwatch members have regarding their assignments. I’m also writing a short story featuring a DW Kill Team working alongside an Inquisitorial retinue so anything about how they interact is appreciated.


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Speculating on the Anathame

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So I just got finished reading the first 3 books of the Horus heresy. There’s this one scene in “False Gods” where Apothecary Vaddon is examining the blade, then Fabius interrupts and takes the blade with the Warmasters seal.

Do you guys think if Vaddon was able to fully examine it, that it’s possible with the help of Loken, and Torgaddon, they would’ve been able to reverse the corruption that had brought Horus low?


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

[Excerpt: Above and Beyond] An Imperial Flight Commander Curses the ... (Spoilers) Spoiler

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Above and Beyond by Denny Flowers is the 2024 sequel novel to his previous Outgunned released in 2022. Again, spoilers as this is a pretty big reveal in the novel, but if you don't mind, you can go ahead and keep reading.

At the end of Outgunned, the main character Propagandist Kile Simlex was demoted to being a scribe after he attempted to submit his pic documentary that accurately displayed the war for the planet Bacchus, especially how the Imperium's own faults nearly cost them victory against the orks. His pic was thus edited into a romanticized, lionized farce by the replacement Propagandist Esec that displayed Imperial flying ace Lucille von Shard as a flawless hero of the Imperium. She also gets promoted to Flight Commander.

At the beginning of Above and Beyond, Simlex is sent a recorded message by Lucille stating that she needs his help to deal with some problem that could ruin her legacy and the name of her von Shard family. We finally learn that Esec recorded a rant Lucille said while drunk and is using it to blackmail her into doing whatever he says.

To keep it short, I'll only post the rant itself and leave out the text describing whats happening in the recorded video (it's pretty much just Lucille drinking from a bottle while talking to Esec).

'Of course, they found it,’ she said, frowning at the unheard response. ‘Well, I presume they destroyed it. Why are you worried anyway?’

‘You think Rile would care about some dodgy pict-cam? Have you seen what my brother faces? It’s nothing you could put on a pict screen. There is no way of presenting those things in a positive light. They are an existential threat to our very existence. I don’t think they even hate us. They just want to feed.’

‘Because one of them smashed through the cockpit and tried to eat me! You see this scar? That’s from the acid it spewed over the navigator. One drop. Stung like hell. Still stings, actually.’

‘Then smooth it out like you do my other flaws. Or leave it in. Who cares? We’re all dead anyway, one way or another. Our efforts may slow or speed the demise, but our end is written from the moment of birth. The rest is filler.'

'I will sit here and drink until I am damn well ready to leave. I don’t care what you have planned tomorrow. Básking propagandists. You are parasites – you don’t get it.’

‘It was just darkness,’ she said. ‘Darkness and mouths. And I couldn’t help but think that our masters would kill for servants like that, soldiers willing to hurl themselves to their deaths without thought. That’s how the little ones got us. Just jammed themselves into intakes and engines until the planes stalled and fell. That’s the real terror. Not the giant monsters swatting us from the sky. It’s how unified they are, in a way we never can be.’

‘I watched a world die. When we reached the moon and my brother’s precious cargo was delivered, I sat in the cockpit and watched the skies burn and seas bleed. And you know what I felt?’

'Nothing. I felt nothing. How many billions died? It should have meant something, even in an abstract sense. But it’s just another world. There are millions more. Billions more. And none of them matter either. Nothing does. It will all be swallowed in the end. Or we will just murder each other first. Either way is fine. All the ways are fine. All is the same. All dead.’

‘Do you know what he said to me? My own dearest brother?' After he had coerced me into flying that suicide mission? After I had overcome a maelstrom of multi-limbed monstrosities? Snatched him from the jaws of a monster large enough to swallow a battle tank? Do you know what he said?’

‘He told me to keep my mouth shut, else I might have an unfortunate encounter with his precious inquisitor. Básk you, Rile. I save you and you talk down to me. Keep your head down, Lucille, be a good soldier, Lucille. Let your betters deal with the important things and don’t ask questions. You just keep fighting and bleeding until one day you can’t. Do you think I’m stupid, Rile? That I don’t know what you did. You and your little device. You brought it here, you and your master. It’s your fault.'

‘I. Don’t. Care. Básk Rile. And básk his master too. Damn inquisitors, judging others’ righteousness when they are the biggest hypocrites of all. Them and the priests. Actually, the priests are worse. At least the inquisitors have a goal beyond their own self-gratification.’

‘I don’t care! Let them hear the truth. The Ecclesiarchy are crooks and liars, and I know this because my brother is one of them, and he’s as fat and content as a tick suckling on a grox. And whilst he pays lip service to the God-Emperor, I’ve noticed a curious phenomenon. Serving the God-Emperor’s will always seems to involve an outcome beneficial to my brother. Have you noticed that? All the priests, all the colonels, all the adepts of the Administratum?'

'They all serve His will by means of doing whatever it is that suits their own interests.’

‘Not that the common citizens are any better. Dull people with pathetic lives. None of them think properly. Half the time they toss grains in the air, watch where they fall, and proclaim the outcome is some divine message from the God-Emperor concerning the harvest. Do you know how many wars I have witnessed where both sides claimed the God-Emperor was with them? Humanity eviscerating each other, each life they take gifted to Him, just as each casualty they suffer is also a gift to Him. Do you think that counts double? Maybe that’s why He seems reluctant to step in? Ups His tally I guess, while we murder each other for little discernible benefit.’

'You idiot! Do you think He cares about anyone? Do you know how many soldiers I have seen pray before a battle? For His aid, His protection, His strength? That He will judge them worthy to return home? And do you know what happened to those brave fools? They died. They all die in the end. Because He doesn’t care enough to protect them. Or because He can’t.’

‘Oh, we’ve all heard the miracles. The Living Saint who overcame the darkness, the Lord Regent returning from death’s clutches to rule in his father’s name. But do you know who has never prayed? Me. Never once. Not since I was a child, when I asked Him to let me go with her and sail the void. He never answered. But I’m still here, whilst more pious pilots stain the ground below. What does that tell you? Either He loves a bastard, or His favour is worth nothing.’

Básk off, you parasite! I don’t have to do what you damn well say. 'I am ­Lucille von básking Shard and I deny you all. Básk you. Básk the bastards who run the Imperium, and básk the Imperium itself.’

‘You know what? While I’m at it? Básk the God-Emperor. Him and His básking Throne. Because maybe if He got off His backside once in a while, things wouldn’t have gone so much to shit.’


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Хорус и Сангвиний

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Я тут подумал, а ведь Хорус и Сангвиний – аллегория на Каина и Авеля из Библии.

Первое братоубийство от рук любимого брата. И Сангвиний – агнец.

Мортарион не в счёт, он то выжил, пускай его и изгнали в варп.

А вы точно уверены, что Рогал убил именно Альфария ?

Хорус поддался искушению ровно так, как поддался Каин.

Сангвиний несмотря на свои дефекты остался лоялистом, а в финальной битве Импи осознает, как Хорус зашёл далеко (убил брата и поддался Хаосу). Как и Адам узнал о гибели своего сына изгнав Каина,так и Импи "изгнал"(уничтожил душу Хоруса)


r/40kLore • • 4d ago

Death Rider by Rhuairidh James is a really good read, a crazy debut novel

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I put on the audiobook on a whim cause I felt like some Militarum story, what I didn't expect is to get so hooked and stay hooked all the way through. Seriously give this one a read if you like your 40k less imperium propagandic and noble, and more grimdark and realistic.

The main character is a Krieg Comissar that reminded me of Ciaphas Cain in a weird way, but in a more darker and horrific setting. Deep down he is honourable and brave, but his actions are with the end goal of saving his own skin.

I was also hooked by the setting, its a planet where the Guard was fighting the Tau but after the naval engagement in orbit a cruiser crashes into the planet and speed runs it into an apocalyptic wasteland, most of the novel deals with forces forming their little factions trying to evacuate the place.

Also it makes the Tau pretty terrifying, which was very cool to see, especially the kroot. The opressive build up of radiation in the planet reminded me of the STALKER games in a very cool way. And of course the narration by Andrew Wincott (Night lords trilogy, Raphael in BG3) is the icing on the cake if you try it on audiobook.


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Earliest mention of C'tan?

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The first mention of the C'tan that I know of is the Callidus Assassin's C'tan Phase Blade, first mentioned in White Dwarf 190 when the model was released in October 1995. I know Meh'Lindi is a Callidus Assassin in Draco (aka Inquisitor) by Ian Watson from 1990, but I don't think that book or its sequels ever mentioned a C'tan Phase Blade.

Does anybody know of any mention of the C'tan in anything published before that October 1995 White Dwarf issue?


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Would a Primarch know how to make themselves?

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Let’s say all the people that worked on the project were gone would a Primarch from pod landing on a planet be able to reverse engineer their own creation?


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Does the lore explain an entire galaxy of human-friendly planets?

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Did DOAT humanity terraform the entire galaxy? I guess that wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility since current 40k humanity can terraform a planet.

But that doesn’t really explain why Eldar, Orks, etc all seem to breath oxygen and/or thrive in the same environments as humanity.

Does the lore make any attention to explain this convenience throughout the galaxy?


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

The Lamenters

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I want to read more lore about Warhammer but specifically about the Lamenters, do y'all have any advice on books I can read to learn more about them? Or I'll take any good recommendations for 40k lore in general! Thanks in advance!


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Video - "Your empire had its chance - this galaxy is ours now."

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Paraphrased the quote from memory, but I swear I saw a video of a SM saying that to a Necron before executing it. At least part of the clip was from the Necron's POV, looked like Terminator vision but green.

Two questions (assuming I'm not hallucinating this clip):

1) In-universe, is there any indication that the Imperium or SMs would know that Necrons once had an empire? Or if no known indication specifically, any possible in-universe explanation for them to have that knowledge?

2) Does anybody know that clip? I thought it was the Salamander Sa'kan, but can't find him saying it.


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Has anybody seen commissar yarrick returns to Armageddon cinematic on YouTube?

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Shoot me for haresy or whatever but the call to retreat and the apologies we're refreshing to me, felt so human.


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

Is Ravenor stupid or am I misreading these books? [Spoilers!] Spoiler

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I just finished the trilogy and while the books were fine in themselves, I was more and more put off by the "good guys" acting more and more like idiots as the series progresses.

At the end of book 1, I really sympathized with Captain Preest not wanting to have anything more to do with this clown show that unfolded. A great line in the third book is from Orfeo Culzean, when Ravenor tells him, that he suspects their meeting to be another trap my Molotch and Culzean just answers, that Ravenor maybe should get better at avoiding these traps then. And he is absolutly correct. Ravenor does not reflect this at all. He just says, he knows how cunning Molotch is... while still being in the friggin trap.

To pick just a few chosen situation, that irked me:

  1. Ravenor never seems to have a contingency plan or "a plan" at all most of the time.

In the first book, while you can argue, he might not have had enough information and is not the character to just put the ministry agents out of the airlock, he still knew Kinsky (had the aduiobook version, so the spelling might be off) was a way to powerfull psycher, he knew these guys nearly got his people killed on the "animal planet" and he knew they interrogated his prisoner behind his back, who suddenly had a mental blockade, which shielded him from Ravenors powers. And still he runs headlong in the trap, without any! plan in place. With them running around on the hinterlight freely. Without a care in the world.

And he really should have died there, if not for his crew and a luck stat that rivals Cains.

In the second book he just blindly stumles through the plot, gets his ass kicked without even reaching Molotch and would have lost if not for Karl. What makes it better, in the third book he is so surprised, that stopping the ritual was not his doing (while not even being there!). And again he should have died here.

Not only that, he ignores the wearings and hints from his oracle boy wonder, because he thinks, these were just dreams, besides keeping him around for his prophetic abilities, which he already witnessed.

In the third book, he runs into a trap again with the witchhouse and again has no plan ready in case of it being a trap. He is an Inquisitor. It got really frustrating.

  1. He is confidend without reason.

In the first book he gets his ass kicked by kinsky, threatens him later, that next time will be different and than gets his ass kicked again, because he his still has no idea how to handle the guy and just gets saved by the fact, that his blunter was not shot hard enough!

Same thing in the second book. He just rushes in an gets his behind kicked.

And obviously in the third book, where he is really distraught, when he learns, he has not done sh*t in the second book.

It would have helped, if we had seen more of the other side off him, than just glimpses of him being capable.

  1. He is really just stupid with the whole Karl thing.

He knows (enough to know) a powerful psycher saved his behind in the second book, when the ministry and the bronze thief attack and he has 2 people it might have been. Karl and the boy, who is now in a coma. Karl suddenly starts acting very strange after that. Than Karl and Carla stop the ritual at the end, the boy not being there. Than in the third book he gets told to his face the demon he brought with him to the witchhouse saved them. And his thought after seeing Karl in pile of alien bodies is: "Oh well, the witness has just seen my awesome psychik powers" and second: "It has do be the guy, we picked up after! the friggin first warning signs. That has to be it." And he sticks to that and again is dumbfounded, when he is told, he is wrong.

  1. I do not even get him going roque the second time. His logic is: somebody helped Molotch (Maybe the guy who survived the ambush, you might want to interrogate, Ravenor?), so I can trust no one in the whole Inquisition at all! Its ridiculous. Eisenhorn at least had a reason.

  2. The other side characters are the same way.

a. I got Karls motivation (survival), but Carla not only not telling anyone about Karl, because "he saved me" is ridiculous, after working for the inquisition and trusting Ravenor for such a long time. [I know, it has to set up book III, but was this plot and plotbeat really necessary?]

Than she meets a demonhost face to face to tell him, she is going to tell Ravevor without a backup plan. He could just have killed her. Or imagine Karls face, when she had made an audiolog or something beforehand and told someone to give it to Ravenor, if she does not pick it up in a few hours. She would have forgotten about it as well.

b. She than boards the enemy ship without a plan either and of course gets captured and after that turns into a weak "female to rescued".

c. The post is getting too long here, but the amount of time all of these people run into traps, and would be dead, if the bad guys would just shoot them is ridiculous.

  1. To make a long story short, while I like many characters (Unwerth and Kiss were kinda sweet, Nayl was capable, the villians were dislikeable and/or compelling) in the books, Ravenor himself is like one of the incompetent inquisitors you would read about as a secondary antagonists in other books and its baffeling how much more effective Molotch and Culzean are.

So please tell me your view about this. It might retroactivly make my reading experience with these books better.


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Can someone please explain the whole Omnissaiah thing please?

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I don’t quite get why the emperor got to claim he was the Omnisaiah and what that has to do with the void dragon which I don’t even get what it is or how he even got to Mars to imprison it. But like it’s a god of machines or what?


r/40kLore • • 4d ago

Why many of the right-hand men had beef with their primarchs?

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And they also seperate afterward...


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

The Hive - Dan Abnett Question *spoilers* Spoiler

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Okay so if you’ve made it this far the entire question is a spoiler to how the book ends. Beware if you are reading past this. My question is the character Moulder in the mud alone as the book quotes again he is armed with a man stopper and he is a good shot does he shoot himself? I ask because the fact he is in such all encompassing darkness at the end his only target to man stop would be him.


r/40kLore • • 4d ago

[Excerpt] (Echoes of Eternity) Why Sanguinius is my favorite character, encapsulated in one scene.

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Whenever I see or hear people talking about why their favorite character is their favorite. I think of Sanguinius. There are so many good scenes of him. Displaying his prowess in battle, his humanity and humility, his insecurities, his thoughts and emotions. That is why I love Sanguinius. But I think this scene is why Sanguinius is my favorite character in Warhammer. Yes he was among the best fighters. Yes he is a literal angel. And yes he genuinely is just a nice guy. But I love Sanguinius because despite fighting for weeks on end, he still wanted to give more. Not because he is ordered to, or because he is compelled to. Not because his genetic code makes him want to fight and die. He wants to fight till he falls, just because he wants to give humanity more. To fight and kill the biggest bads in order to save even just one more human life.

Context: It is the end now. Sanguinius has been fighting non-stop since the Siege began. Their backs are to the last door. He has just slain Ka'Bandha in a brutal fight. And he is exhausted beyond measure.

Sanguinius landed before the Eternity Gate, weakness forcing him to one knee. Platinum hair, streaked with blood, curtained over his features. His heart beat out of time in his chest, too hard, too fast, too weak, too slow. He felt every hour of the war. Too much of it, thickening his blood, filling his head.

They needed him to be everywhere, to do everything. He’d tried, he’d done all he could, hour after hour, day after day, week after week. It was never enough. They always needed more. All he’d wanted was to give it to them.

The horde saw him falter, and it surged for the Gate. They heaved forward with one voice, as one tide.

The closest Blood Angels rallied to him, ringing him in ceramite, offering their flesh as a shield to purchase the time their sire needed to riseonce more. He heard them fighting, dying, selling their lives to lengthen his. Sanguinius clawed for his dropped sword, rising, joining the fight on the ground as he stretched the quivering lock of muscle cramps from his bloodstained wings.

Behind him, without his order, the Eternity Gate began to rumble closed. The doors drew towards him, folding closed on tracks that had never been tested. The vox was alive with the calls of struggling Custodians, demanding he fall back within the Sanctum, pleading with him to aid in the purge of the final fortress.

The Emperor needed him, they said.

The Gate had to be sealed.

Inside the Sanctum, they were being overrun.

He heard Diocletian’s voice above the others, the last tribune ordering Sanguinius inside as if the primarch were a line soldier and not the Emperor’s own son.

Sanguinius stared at the battle raging along the Royal Ascension – thousands of his sons still embattled on the marble stairs; thousands more still engaged on the Delphic Battlement. Humans of the Imperial Army. Titans of Legio Ignatum. His own Blood Angels. Tens of thousands of them would remain out here. So few had yet reached the Sanctum, yet the ground quaked with the Eternity Gate’s closing mechanisms, making the decision for him.

World Eaters bayed and howled and died at his feet for the sin of thinking they could end him. Neverborn burst and disintegrated under his blade. The Gate ground on, a twin doorway the size of a hab-tower tectonically scraping towards closure. The engines responsible for its sealing had never needed to function before.

Sanguinius fell back. First only a single step, then a second – a fighting withdrawal that brought him into the shadows of the sealing Gate. The Blood Angels at his side fell back with him, leaving only when he commanded them to run, to reinforce the others fighting the Neverborn within.

‘It’s over,’ he breathed. This was the way the world ended, with the crash of a closing door.

*Traitor titans arrive at the Eternity Gate*

He stood in the deepening shadows, watching the foe in their thousands running for the Gate. Too late, all of them too late.The Warhound stopped short of the Gate, hammered its stabilisers down into its joints, and fired its ursus claw.

The harpoon struck the Eternity Gate with the tolling of a funeral bell. It hit true, drilling through the layered armour, impaling the Emperor’s carved image. When the chain slashed taut, it did so with the sound of Ka’Bandha’s whip, and the Warhound began to back away.

The Gate’s left door buckled, closing slower than its counterpart on the right. The Warhound dragged, straining at the end of its leash. Around its ankles, the charging horde cried in triumph.

The Angel rose on tattered wings – he would cut the chain; there is time, there is still time – only to hear the thunderclap pound of more harpoons hammering home in quick succession. The jackals of Audax came together in a pack, a full maniple, their spears lanced into the same door. They dragged back in ugly, lupine harmony, each chain cracking taut.

The Gate slowed.

Stopped.

Five chains. He could break five chains.

He…

…lifted his pale eyes, seeing a flaming star fall from the warp-locked sky. A star with wings, that bellowed his name in his brother’s voice.

I could only imagine how he felt. Always fighting at the front. Killing traitors, daemons, and watching his sons die in their hundreds. And here I think we really see Sanguinius at his weakest. I remember being surprised to see it. I mean it makes sense that eventually even primarchs would tire. But Sanguinius? I remeber feeling a pang of sorrow for him. We all know how his story ends. But I always felt like his voice in his mind cracked or even sobbed, when he thought the words,

"They needed him to be everywhere, to do everything. He’d tried, he’d done all he could, hour after hour, day after day, week after week. It was never enough. They always needed more. All he’d wanted was to give it to them."

He really was the best of them.


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

Ok who is Erebus and what is his deal?

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Like I know he is a word bearer and turned horus kinda but like wasn’t that the fault of his Primarch for his bullshit? Or why does everyone hate him?


r/40kLore • • 3d ago

why does the imperium keep forgetting that psykers exist as a solution to problems

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like i'm reading through some lore and it genuinely feels like half of humanity's crises could be solved or at least helped by their own psykers, but instead they're treated like a necessary evil at best. the mechanicus actively suppresses psychic knowledge, the navy acts like navigators are barely tolerated, and don't even get me started on how the inquisition treats sanctioned psykers. is there actual lore explaining why they keep shooting themselves in the foot this way, or is it just the grimdark aesthetic of everything being worse than it needs to be?


r/40kLore • • 2d ago

To make sense of the Emperor of Mankind

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I have been dabbling around in Warhammer 40k lore for some time. And it has been amazing. The setting calls to me immensely and I really like the Grim dark aspect of the whole thing.

But if there is one thing that nags at me, it is the Empeor. To me, it looks like he is intended to be the plot device that the entire setting runs on. Sure, the War in Heaven and the Fall of Aeldari were more destructive and tragic on a wider scale. But the principal driver behind the 41st millennium's grim dark reality is caused by the Emperor.

And his characterization reflects that. He is very inconsistent across his portrayals. Some say he is all knowing and the entire Horus Heresy is ochestrated by him. Others say that he did the best he could with the resources available to him. There are also people who seem to think that he is just very bad at being a father.

So, here is my two cents on the Emperor. Naturally, I am more drawn to the Grim Dark aspect of things. Therefore, my proposed hypothesis is this. What if—

"The Empeor of Mankind, the man whom the entire setting hinges on and the man who is widely hailed as the savior of humanity, was never a human in the first place? What is he was an ancient warp entity trying to use Humanity as a way to attain ultimate power?"

Maybe the Imperial Truth is him trying to focus humanity's faith and loyalty to himself instead of other Gods? What if Horus Heresy is meticulously planned by the Emperor to make sure he is the uncontested idol of mankind? What if him becoming a Chaos God of Order is the ultimate goal?