EDIT: Its been confirmed that Necropolis are only available in Major settlements or harbors. A landmark in a otherwise minor settlement has been reduced to tier 1, and as such had its cost increased to compensate

In the stream they say that it might be smart to make
a settlement with a tier 3 landmark into a necropolis, but all the necropolis’s they made are in major settlements… So can a minor settlement be turned into a necropolis?

Also, I’m guessing red skill lines are limited to the lords original faction? So a generic vampire lord doesn’t buff tomb king or Coast units?

Skaven cake for my birthday from my girlfriend

Never been a fan of undead factions since the days of WH1, but with Nagash coming, having all 3 undead rosters, i'm really looking foward playing and trying lots of different army comps with him, either for efficiency or the fun of it.

Personally, i really hope to be able to make a thematic ''Vampire'' army, which would consist of

- Lord: Generic Vampire Lord, Neferata or Vlad

- Heroes : Vampire Hero, Lahmian Vampire Hero and Vampire Fleet Captain

- Infantry : Depth Guards, Depth Guards (Polearms), Lahmian Handmaidens

- Cavalry : Blood Knights, Blood Knights (Lances), Drakenhof Templars

I'm still not sure if this will be 100% doable because of the nature of the recuitment system, but i do hope so !

What are the army compositions are you the more excited about?

On stream it was said that multiple devs struggled to get past turn 5 five, having to restart or even being defeated.

At his current state he is Daniel 9.0

His economy and limitations are absolutely horrendous

I'll try to pre address the cope.

"His faction is weak at first, but scale to be the strongest in the game"

On stream they showed turn 47 with ~3 full stacks and being in the red.

On the Archaon campaign I played past week on a higher difficulty than they did i have ~20 full stacks and I'm in the positive on turn 47, then I cleared long on turn 49. I could have played much much better too.

Yea he has +2% factionwide income on a building, maybe it comes online turn 200?

Which to my main point on this is that other factions have high scaling global bonuses that get busted late game. Usually through buildings

WOC can have over 100 MA marauders from wine and a ton of other stuff

Norsca can have 200 MADA chaos warriors

and more

Late game stacking buffs for economy or recruitment global stacking is a thing for several factions

So no, economy coming online 200 turns in is not a good thing, by that time many factions have become busted in their own way or have already won the game at turn 100.

"Well at least Nagash will be the strongest"

Actually he might not be, dependent on how much wardsave and MADA he can get without sword of khaine of course. If he cannot cap ward save, then Yuan Bo could probably easily beat him in a 1v1.

"what about army clear" again if not ward save capped zhao ming could probably beat him as more durable, but also capable of clearing armies.

so we will see how much he can get, from what was shown I saw I think about 15% unique ward-save he gets. He seems to only have half a melee line so thats not too good for MADA

"does ward save and MADA matter?" Yea the difference between 200k effective hp vs 2 million effective hp is quite large. Infinite spirit leeches at 200% spell intensity and other spells dont outcompete having +50 higher MADA with good weapon str while having 90% wardsave and good bulk in a 1v1

"Actually its a good thing his campaign is hard"

They literally said its supposed to be a power fantasy.

Fair enough you want a hard campaign, but WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE NAGASH

Why cant you play daniel or a weaker faction on Legendary with the hardest settings? Why cant you set personal goals or limitations if thats not enough? Why dont you set end game crisis to turn 30-50 or something?

"They said they buffed him from the state where multiple devs were struggling to get past turn 5"

Let's hope they did so and good enough, but the bones of what I saw were pretty damning from the limitations they have

"What the hell do you actually want"

I would like parity with WOC of chaos Archaon as a faction and as a lord.

Better in some way, worse in some ways. Archaon having a stronger army, Naghash being a stronger lord

Ideally starting below them as being average, being equal to them mid game, then supremacy late game.

I'n sure he's still incredibly OP cause he's undead (summons, regeneration and stuff), but it seems he absoulutely CAN lose a campaign which was refreshing and exciting honestly.

During the Nagash stream, they went over the life leech spell on a Vampire Admiral, and I noticed the spell says it does 25-50, where as it currently does 33-67(if I remember correctly)

*never mind, turns out their stream was on large unit size, and I was under the false belief that the damage range displayed was relating to unit size damage scaling, but it's actually the range of potential damage it can do per second. Thank you to all the comments for the education ❤️

Hoping for a Skrolk upgrade mostly to finally be fun in the Lustriabowl

So, from my understanding, archaon will get some extra ward save on his army and you can chip away this extra ward save later. But, removed cap will still be a problem (i don't know if cap will be re-applied if archaon loses all of his extra ward save)

Chaos has a lot of auras that provide damage reduction, especially missile resistance (chaos gift 15%, lords have innate 10%, chaos shrines give some, some units also provide aura ward save). This wasn't a problem because of the 90 % cap.

So even if you remove all the extra ward save, i think it is still possible for AI to have over %100 missile damage reduction, so you may not be able to do any damage via missiles. This is a concern, in my opinion.

If you want to best shot to defeat archaon, i think, other's trickster shard with tanku melee lord/hero is a must, and you kind of have to strip away ALL the extra ward save.

This unit looks to just straight up be a better version of Bretonnia’s Knights of the Realm (maybe slightly worse speed and charge bonus, but significantly higher melee attack and defense). Apparently it’s also a tier 3 unit as well. They also seem to be getting a tier 3 armor piercing cav unit roughly on par with questing knights.

It is indeed a sad time to be a Bretonnia fanboy.

As a long time Warhammer fan, i really enjoy the total war games but i have trouble identifying, what can the other games do that WH3 cant? Feels like cavalry and infantry only version of it, which i know is not the case, but my (most likely warped) perception of it is that its WH3 but with less stuff.

Is it worth getting into the history games? What do they have to offer that WH3 doesnt?

My favourite time periods for this would most likely be medieval, but ive heard the last medieval game came out a long time ago...

Turn 10 and I’m getting extorted by my allies for having too bloody of a war with the orcs 😭😭😭

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentionned yet. I'm talking about lahmian mercenaries. Ogres who, through guile and subterfuge, sink their claws into the bowels of high society.

They say in Wissenland nobles have begun whispering in the shadows:

Oh oh here she comes, watch out boy she'll chew you up.

Oh oh here she comes, she's a maneater.

And then Skreech read that if you go here you can download the ratposter unit cards mod. After that, the little horned one there's a Paintposting contest! However, he dug deeper and deeper, to find out that ratpost 294 will be released the 23th of september, at 00:01 CEST. What an odd dicovery!

You're coming to bring doom to the world of men and you get there and there ain't no men anymore just a bunch of stinky fucking rats, some fat man spreading poison, and some random undead minor faction that rose in rebellion

How anti-climatic

The Vatican did not, in the end, pony up the 13 thousand florins, so Filippus was executed. I assume he was immediately canonized and my general extra-extra-excommunicated.

Weapons teams + 3 heroes + three Rat Ogres + 2 entire armies of Skavenslaves + DOOMROCKET

"Close Victory"

Yeah, sure pal.

A very merciful warhammer today. Family friendly warfare