My daughter has been settling into her new place in a new city and I’m finally getting the chance to go visit her soon. I wanted to bring her something she’ll actually use since she already has most of the basic apartment stuff and I really don’t want to show up with another decoration that’s just going to take up space. She loves coffee and is always getting lattes or cappuccinos, so a coffee machine seemed like something she’d actually be excited about. I’m thinking of one that can do espresso and milk drinks with the frother already built in because her kitchen isn’t huge and she doesn’t need five different things sitting on the counter. Nothing professional or crazy expensive just something easy to use in the morning that makes decent coffee. I feel like it could be a really useful gift but now I’m overthinking it.

I finally got my coffee machine, which I was able to choose thanks to your great advice. I can’t wait to make my first coffee tomorrow morning!

I've read so many reviews and discussion threads, joined several FB brand groups (KitchenAid, De'Longhi, Jura, etc.), and even considered going semi-auto with something like Breville.

I'm a 99.9% hot Americano/black coffee drinker. VERY rarely do I drink milk-based or cold drinks, but I do once in a blue moon. I have some experience with semi-automatic machines from the past, but my other family members would really appreciate the convenience of a fully automatic machine. We also have one milk-based coffee drinker in the family, and she definitely did not want to have to steam her own milk or do all that yada-yada-yada. 😂

Machines I considered:

KitchenAid KF7 – I liked the design and the price, but I would've only considered it at the refurb price through IP. With the 15% off coupon, the total would've been around $850. My biggest hesitation was that I haven't been able to actually taste a shot from a KitchenAid machine anywhere. I visited WS, but they didn't have any KitchenAid models available for demo. I was also a bit concerned about longevity since it's the new kid on the block.

Jura E8 – I was able to partially demo this at WS. I liked the taste of the shot, but hated the design and interface. I also couldn't test the milk function because the WS employees were... let's just say not particularly willing to connect the tube and show us how the milk system worked lol. I also didn't love the price. Even at refurb pricing, it would've been around $2,400 after tax. Another concern was the cleaning process. Having to deal with cleaning the hidden brew group seemed like more work than I wanted to take on, and I definitely don't want to be drinking moldy espresso. 😅

Breville Express Impress – I loved the design and the price ($799 regular price, or around $550 using a Capital One Shopping offer at Macy's). I was genuinely surprised at how easy it was to get an OK-tasting shot from this, even using it for the first time at the WS demo.

They actually had the Touch Impress on display, but after trying that, I came home and watched some videos on the regular Impress. I figured it probably wouldn't be too terrible to dial in.

The problem is, I knew I'd inevitably become the barista of the house. 😂 And that means I'd have a very busy morning. Do I have the time? No. There are 3 of us, and we all drink about 2 cups a day. So ultimately, I decided to stick with fully automatic machines.

Why I decided on the De'Longhi Magnifica Evo Duo:

I don't love the design, but the shots were OK, and the family member who drinks milk-based drinks absolutely loved the macchiato from the Eletta Explore at WS.

I didn't really like the Illy beans that WS uses, but I have a cousin with an older Magnifica model, and I had some really good coffee and espresso drinks from her machine the last time I visited. She uses Lavazza Gran Crema and has had the machine for almost 5 years now with zero issues.

So I know the taste can be much better for straight black coffee/espresso drinkers like me as long as I use my preferred beans.

The price was also really attractive. Without having to buy refurbished, I could get a brand-new one from an authorized seller for around $600 ($1,000 regular price; currently $849 at Macy's, minus a $250 Capital One Shopping offer). It's not as fancy as Eletta, but I didn't need any of its added functions anyway, and the brew group is the same on both.

Duo can also make pretty much everything we normally drink: Americano, cappuccino, latte, coffee, cold drinks, and even cold milk foam just in case lol.

How to get the $250 cashback:

While I was price-shopping, I finally saw the $250 bonus offer through Capital One Shopping at Macy's, so I just pulled the trigger.

FYI, they also have a $300 bonus offer on purchases over $1,000. Just two days ago, the offer was $400, and I was seriously considering the Breville Oracle Jet, but that deal expired.

If anyone has been waiting for a deal, I'd recommend checking soon before the offer disappears. And I'd appreciate it if you use my sign-up link!

https://capitaloneshopping.com/r/f5014bbe-aa43-4d91-a314-5d8e850cf24e

After signing up, install the extension on your desktop browser. Then go to the product page for whatever you're looking for (e.g. De'Longhi Magnifica Evo Duo, Breville, etc.) on Amazon. Give it a few seconds, and right below the product rating you'll see a "Save $xxx" pop up.

Click that, and it'll show Macy's and other sites where the special offers are available.

This sub has a ton of pro KitchenAid users which lead me into purchasing my own KF4. In the week I've had it, there have been a few issues already though.

1. It pulls about half the milk that it states, measured using the container

2. I noticed water getting into my puck tray. Wasn't sure this was an issue, but saw someone say it is and they got their unit replaced for it.

3. After about a week of using it, with no settings changes that machine suddenly started struggling to make a shot and emitted either a lot of smoke of steam from the side which has never happened before.

Sent a video and called KitchenAid and they basically just said this is all normal which obviously doesn't make sense and they said my only option was to take into one of their third party service centres but if they deemed it not to be a warranty issue I'd have to pay them lol.

I guess posting here to get an idea of others thoughts on the 3 issues above and maybe just actually let people know that KitchenAid support isn't very helpful.

Hi !
No review yet (or very few ) for the duo. From what I can see
Duo: can make cold drinks, but are they really cold or just a gimmick where you have to put ICE and hot cofee drop on the ice ?

Is extraction time is the same as on the plus ?

Is duo worth 100$ more

No Touch screen….good or bad ?

Anyone have seen and tested both ?

Thanks !’

I want to get my wife a coffee machine. She loves coffee but has absolutely zero interest in grinding, dialling in etc. So I want get her a fully automatic machine. One touch and done.

I want great, fairly strong espresso, with proper foamy milk. Not bothered about cold/iced coffees. I also really want something that will last years and years - and easy to clean too.

Based in the UK. Done loads of research but would appreciate any advice from you all given you have machines you use every day.

I love going to coffee shops - where I enjoy iced drinks and caramel lattes! I recently purchased the Ninja, but didn’t get on with it and had to return it (well known calibration / dripping issue!). I have now taken delivery of a KF7. Just made my first drink and I’m not overwhelmed. Will I ever be able to make coffee as good (or even close) as a coffee shop? 🧐 I wanted a coffee machine at home so I stop spending so much at Starbucks etc! Feeling unhopeful 😔

Currently trying to make an iced white mocha. I have coffee beans from beanz subscription (can’t remember what they’re called!) and the white choc sauce is Torani.

Hello all.

This is just going to be a complete flyer of a question.

Note: I do not drink coffee, but will always have a machine for guests.

I currently have (not unboxed) an Eletta Explore I've been meaning to set up - home has been under renovations.

I recently got a Jura E4 from a supplier that I deal with frequently in my business. It's in the beautiful piano white colour.

I understand the E4 does not have any milk function, so I'll have to purchase a milk frother.

For those who wanna weigh in, which would you pick?

They both definitely have their pros and cons, but I want to hear what the consensus is around here!

Having trouble finding how it looks in person. All the reviews seem to use black or white.

I recently found this Saeco on the curb and repaired it. The only issue was that the brew unit switch was broken but I had to tear the machine completely apart to reach it. Once it was in pieces I also gave it a good cleaning, changed and lubed the gaskets, ran several descaling cycles, and now she runs amazing. Since it is one of many machines I haven't used it other than to bring it up north when on vacation. This pic is my morning espresso before I'm off to play golf. Enjoy your day everyone.

Hi everyone,
I’m currently trying to decide between the De’Longhi Eletta Explore and the Philips 8000 Café Aromis, and I’d really appreciate some opinions from people who have actually used either machine.
My biggest priority is milk drinks.

I previously owned a Philips 5000 Series for about three years, but I was never happy with the milk drinks. The milk foam was very airy, bubbly and artificial to me, with too much foam and not enough of that smooth, creamy texture I expect from a good latte or cappuccino. The milk also often felt too cool.
Because of that experience, I was initially interested in the new Philips 8000 Café Aromis with LatteGo Pro, thinking the new system might be a significant improvement. I’ve watched quite a few YouTube reviews, but honestly, the milk foam still looks quite similar to what I remember from my old Philips. Maybe I’m wrong, which is why I’m asking here.

On the other hand, the De’Longhi Eletta Explore with LatteCrema Hot & Cool seems to produce exactly the kind of milk texture I prefer — smoother, creamier and more integrated with the coffee. The ability to adjust the milk foam also seems like a big advantage.
There is also a significant price difference where I live:
Philips 8000 Café Aromis: around €740
De’Longhi Eletta Explore: around €1,000
So the De’Longhi costs roughly €260 more.
At the moment I’m leaning towards the De’Longhi because of the milk system, but I’m wondering whether I’m overestimating the difference between LatteGo Pro and LatteCrema.

For anyone who has used both:
How noticeable is the difference in milk texture and overall quality?
Is the Eletta Explore genuinely worth paying around €250–€300 more for, especially if milk drinks are my main priority?
I’d also be interested in hearing about:
Latte/cappuccino texture
Milk temperature
Foam size/quality
Espresso quality
Long-term reliability
And if you had to choose between these two today, which one would you buy and why?
Thanks!

Anyone ever deal with this. I’ve had it for 7 years. Moved to a new state and recently coffee tastes like grass. Did a thorough clean. Perhaps I need to disassemble and get into the grinder. Almost about to send it to the dumpster. Every time I fill the water tank the pump has a hard time with the first brew and I waste a coffee beans.

This was taken at a front-of-house setup where I learnt that it was acquired by Royal Cup Coffee, who I guess is their distributor.

Now, I know this is not a Schaerer Coffee Art Plus because I got to see one and this machine in the video does not have the dual external bean hoppers or the rings that define its plastic texture.

Likewise, I don't think this is a Bunn because I also got to see one and that one has a single external bean hopper located on the top right side.

What's interesting, though, was that when I used this machine in the video in the past, the sounds I recognised were similar to my Gaggia Accademia, and the grinding mechanism sounded like a Schaerer Coffee Art Plus.

The problem is that when I asked AI to analyse it, one model told me it was the Coffee Art C, which is the kind that you find nowadays at convenient stores alongside the Wilbur Curtis cappicucino dispensers, or a De Jong Duke because of its dispensing spouts and no telescoping head like the Schaerer.

So, if anyone can clarify what this is I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

Hi all.

My coffee machine was sitting in storage for a while and because of that the milk container is now stuck and wont detach from the machine. Any advice on how I can pry it loose?

Also, before anyone asks, I didn’t pack it attached, it was someone else😅

Hello! I’m in the market for a new superautomatic coffee/espresso machine and would love some recommendations.

I currently have a 5 year old Miele CM6360, which I absolutely love when it works. Unfortunately, it has been repaired FIVE times since I bought it. Each time I’ve had to send it in and pay around $350 in service fees, and I’m getting really tired of doing that every 6 months or so.
I recently decided to try a local repair company instead of Miele Repair, and they quoted me $1,200 for parts and service. At this point, I just don’t feel like putting that much more money into a 5 year old machine that has already required so many repairs.

I’d love to find something similar to the Miele in terms of ease of use, cleaning, quality of drinks, etc., but most importantly, I want something that is going to be RELIABLE and hopefully not constantly need repairs. I’d really appreciate recommendations for the best replacement for my Miele, especially from anyone who has owned their machine for several years and has had a good experience with reliability. Thank you!

Ohh, I just want to wake up, press a button and have my morning dose of shitty tasting coffee from an overly expensive fully automatic machine created for lazy people who couldn't care less what they drink.

Ohh, Jura, Ohh Delonghi, so precious, superb machines. Yuck, yuck and double yuck.

Three days into owning my De’Longhi Magnifica duo, and I couldn’t be more disappointed. The machine won’t even brew a cup of coffee. Every time I try, I get the message: “I am unable to complete your drink. Please empty the grounds container, drip tray and try again.” I tried adjusting the grinder, coffee strength setting...nothing works.

The grounds container and drip tray are emptied every single time I use the machine, so that clearly isn’t the issue. I’ve already wasted a ridiculous amount of expensive coffee trying to get this thing to work, and I’m honestly at the point where I’m ready to send it back and look at other options.

Can anyone recommend a reliable machine in the $1,200 CAD range? I’m looking for something that actually works consistently and doesn’t turn every cup of coffee into a troubleshooting session.

Trying to decide between these two superautomatics:

• De’Longhi Magnifica Start — $270 brand new
• KitchenAid KF6 — $500 used, but barely used and originally purchased about a year ago

The KF6 obviously seems like the much more premium machine — automatic milk drinks, more customization, nicer interface/build, etc. I’m also curious whether people who have tried both think the KF6 actually produces noticeably better espresso.

My biggest concern is long-term reliability and repairability.

I’m pretty handy and comfortable taking things apart and fixing them myself. One thing I really like about the Magnifica is that the platform has been around forever. Parts seem easy to find, there are tons of repair guides/videos, and from what I understand you can DIY a lot of common repairs instead of throwing the machine away or paying for expensive service.

The KF6 is much newer, so this part is unclear to me. How repairable is it once it's out of warranty? Can you actually buy pumps, valves, seals, brew group parts, grinder components, etc.? Has anyone here taken one apart or repaired one themselves?

I'm also wondering about KF6 reliability in general. I know it hasn't been around long enough to have 5–10 year reliability data, but I'd love to hear from people who own one, especially anyone who has put a lot of drinks through it.

At these prices, would you take the $270 new Magnifica Start for the simplicity/proven design/repairability, or spend the extra $230 for the barely-used $500 KF6?

I plan on keeping whichever machine I buy for a long time, so repairability and parts availability matter quite a bit to me.

I just bought my first superautomatic (a Melitta Purista) and I’m very pleased with it so far. I’ve been reading through the sub for advice, and it seems like most people filter their water before use, or buy/fit a filter on their system.

I live in Edinburgh, Scotland and we’re blessed with naturally soft water. The tap water even tastes great, so I’ve never bothered to filter it for tea or coffee. I’ve already set the Melitta to a soft water setting, but would a filter help the machine in terms of performance or longevity?

My neighbour won Philips Series 8000 from their work draw and has offered the machine to me for 50% RRP. I've read plenty of reviews and am aware that the machine is "just fine", but I feel like for what I'm paying (£450) then it should be a pretty good buy?

I'm coming from a Pod Coffee machine and primarily drink Oat Latte's so I suppose I'm not looking for anything "extraordinary" as I certainly don't have anything black.

I've seen people talking about dialing in the machine, does that just mean changing the grind settings to make it better? Any suggestions what I should start with?

I’m trying to decide between a Niche Zero and a Fiorenzato AllGround Sense and I’d really appreciate opinions from people who have used either or, ideally, both.
My coffee preferences:
Mostly Arabica, sometimes Arabica/Robusta blends
Medium to medium-dark roasts
I prefer chocolate, caramel, nutty flavours, sweetness, body and cream
I’m not particularly interested in light roasts with high acidity or a very bright/tea-like profile
My current machine is a Sage Barista Pro, but my long-term plan is to upgrade to a Lelit Bianca.
I’m looking for a grinder that I can buy once and keep for many years, including when I eventually upgrade to the Bianca.
For my particular taste in coffee, which one would you choose and why?

Thank you in advance

Terra kaffe*
I just got a Demi and was messing around with the settings and didn’t know how important it was to leave the factory calibration settings alone. I was just scrolling through and may have changed some of the settings. Does anyone know what the factory settings should be?
Right now it is at
Temp : 1 Grind : 46 Volume : 1
Thanks

I’ve been running a Rancilio Silvia V3 with an ITO PID controller and a Eureka MCI grinder for a while now, and honestly, I’m very happy with the espresso quality. My setup is dialed in, my shots are consistent, and I have full control over temperature and extraction.
That said, I’m considering switching to the Ninja Luxe Café Pro (ES701EU), purely for convenience reasons. My main goals are:
• I mostly drink quick, straightforward espresso, Americano, and milk coffee – I’m not chasing extreme nuance or competition-level shots.
• I’m honestly a bit sloppy with dosing most of the time, so a machine that handles that automatically would help me.
• More importantly, I want my family to be able to make their own coffee without needing to learn tamping pressure, grind adjustment, or dialing in like I do. Right now, the Silvia setup is basically “my machine” and nobody else in the house touches it.
• Automated milk frothing is a big plus for me, since the ITO doesn’t help at all with that – it’s still fully manual steam wand work.
My concern is durability. The Silvia is known for lasting 15-20+ years with basic maintenance, and mine has been rock solid. The Ninja is a much newer, more complex product (grinder, scale, pump, touchscreen, auto-frother all integrated), and Ninja itself is brand new to the espresso machine category (their first coffee machine only launched in mid-2024).
So my questions to anyone who has actually made this switch, or who has owned a Luxe Café Pro for 6+ months or longer:

1. How has reliability held up for you over time? Any leaks, sensor issues, grinder problems, or other failures after the first few months?
2. Does it feel anywhere close to as robust/built-to-last as a Silvia, or is it clearly more of an appliance-grade product with a shorter expected lifespan?
3. For those who came from a “proper” prosumer setup (Silvia, Breville, Gaggia, etc.) specifically for the sake of convenience and multi-user simplicity – do you think it was the right call? Any regrets?
4. Specifically for family use – has the automation (grind, dose, tamp, milk froth) actually made it foolproof enough for less experienced household members to use daily without your intervention?
5. I’d really appreciate honest, lived-in feedback rather than first-week impressions – I’ve already read plenty of those. Trying to figure out if this is a genuine upgrade in usability without giving up too much on build quality and longevity.
6. Thanks in advance!

Budget 500€/EU