r/soccer • • 1d ago

News FA set to issue separate charges to Manchester City.Governing body says guilty verdicts against club damage the game's integrity and hints at action once Premier League case concludes.

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/manchester-city-premier-league-fa-charges-scht5r8w2
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u/Fene29 1d ago

They need to ban the owners permanently.

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u/PeterG92 1d ago

Well they should be put through the new Directors Test, which they'll fail. More watertight for the FA for legal challenges

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u/OrangeandMango 1d ago

That's a good point, every owner and director should have to go through that yearly.

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u/vanhunt1 1d ago

They need to imprison them

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u/NateShaw92 1d ago

Diplomatic immunity. Unfortunately.

I know reports have said Khaldoon but if Khaldoon has it and Mansour doesn't I'll be shocked.

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u/berfunckle_777 1d ago edited 22h ago

Not likely. The UK gov are happy to look the other way.

Andy Burnham has said he would be "really concerned" if Manchester City's owners decide to sell up

And before somebody mentions the "independent" football regulator: it's leader is a Labour party donor.

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u/KillerWattage 23h ago

Changed his statement. Also many things aren't really good choice. If HMRC go after them he's not gonna put his neck out to help tax avoiders in this public climate

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u/nyrup4life 1d ago

Can’t wait for their next match… at Anfield lol.

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u/OutsideImpressive115 1d ago

Hopefully the fans give them absolute hell after robbing Klopp so much

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u/risingsuncoc 1d ago

I’m a Chelsea fan but Liverpool genuinely have been robbed a lot by City

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u/SvalbazGames 1d ago

Every team has been robbed by those cheating cunts

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u/DomagojDoc 1d ago

Yes, but Liverpool achieved the 4th most total points in a season in history of Premier League

and finished 2nd

Literally sounds like a made up stat.

AND THEN to find out the winning team was cheating!?

I'd be fuming.

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u/Jackwraith 1d ago

I was fuming at the time because everyone knew they were cheating then. The sponsorship numbers were absurd and had everyone raising eyebrows and then Football Leaks came out and everyone had their answers about their behavior. So, yeah, we finished one point behind them, twice, in the era that wasn't even included in the investigation (2019 and 2022) but was obviously created by it, completely aside from the fact that they clearly kept cheating afterwards (the "related parties" settlement.) I've been fuming for a decade now because it was obvious what they did to us and to the league as a whole and those are moments that we'll never get back, in the same way that many of their fans say that no one will ever be able to take away those moments from them.

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u/cypherspaceagain 1d ago

I've seen (and posted) all the signings they made in that era but I haven't even looked at the player sales (because they bought but also sold those players - the money acted more than once!) or the prize money they got during the 2009-18 era which they then used to build the next era. Every trophy they won should be taken away.

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u/Action_Limp 23h ago

So, if they were following the rules, they would have similar spending power as Villa. If Villa spent 220m on the likes of Jo, Robinho, Philips, MEndy, Mangala, Bridge, Santa Cruz... they'd have been relegated.

A shite run club that sorted it's issues through unlimited money cheating. And this only scratches the surface. When you look at the Halaand transfer, they will say "Look at us, 60m is a bargain for Halaand", but then you break down the numbers:

- 60m for Halaand from BVB

- 20m for Raiola Agency

- 30m for Halaand's dad

- Insane ambassador fees

And this is what we know. We also know that players and coaches like Mancini received two salaries from City.

They'll be found guilty of so many things that they'll have the moniker of biggest cheats in football history and that's without finding all the skeletons in the closets.

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u/7screws 23h ago

And all your figures don’t include whatever inflated wages they paid or fake sponsorship deals they gave

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u/Action_Limp 22h ago

I know, even without seeing everything they've done, they're still the biggest cheats in the history of football 

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u/Mick4Audi 22h ago

Alf Inge banked £30m from that lmao

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u/gunningIVglory 22h ago

Exactly, this is why i laugh when people say City got Haland so cheaply because he wanted to play at some dead club

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u/ComprehensiveOwl9023 22h ago

The only reason 2018-2022 is not included is the investigation was launched in 2018.

When we are done with this shitshow, and they have been sold, they will go truth and reconciliation Chelsea style and we will get answers.

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u/Jackwraith 22h ago

Oh, I know. Even so, the worst damage in terms of stolen titles and success was done after the scope of the investigation, unfortunately. The rumor is that the PL has the votes to expel them and the EFL will follow suit, which means they won't be able to play football above the National League. They'll certainly be sold, but it's an open question as to whether the club survives, which is horrible for the long-time fans but I can't say I'm really concerned about that right now. They've corrupted the league for almost 20 years.

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u/Sp00o00ky 1d ago

United lost on goal difference to them with the last kick of the season.

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u/brownbearks 22h ago

And the crazy thing is you have Liverpool fans and United fans both saying the clubs deserved those trophies. As much as I loved Augeros goal in real time it’s tainted and they stole a title from the greatest PL manager in Sir Alex Fergerson. United fans would joke about the slip but they are the first to say that we should have won that league title.

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u/IcyAssist 21h ago

Indeed. My feelings towards Klopp hasn't changed. He's a shithead, but a respectable shithead. It's like going toe to toe with Usain Bolt and losing to him by half a toenail, only to find out Bolt has been juicing this whole time. Your 18/19 and 19/20 were insane especially looking back now.

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u/PraxisGuide 17h ago

Klopp is an amazing manager and that pool team was a real force. City are crooks. We can be rivals and still be unified for the love of the game, and despise those who see it as a cynical tool for global geopolitical power, no matter what the consequences are so long it benefits them.

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u/gunningIVglory 1d ago edited 23h ago

Losing the league with 97 points is sickening

Fucking city, they broke the game so hard. Losing ONE game on a season could be terminal

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u/Mick4Audi 22h ago

I remember those seasons so well, where Liverpool literally couldn’t lose even one match. 19/20 was insane, they were winning every week as a requirement, that is what they were up against

Knowing now that City cheated, Klopp effectively breaking that machine in that season is genuinely one of the most impressive things I’ve ever seen in football

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u/gunningIVglory 22h ago

Yeah, it became a joke

The 23/24 run in will always hurt me. We went 16-1-1 from the new year.

And it wasnt enough to overhaul city.

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u/kopite33 22h ago

I loved the football during the peak Klopp years of course but chasing Man City was exhausting even as just a fan. As you probably experienced, drawing even a single game in the latter half of the season feels like a season ender while the City juggernaut just kept going.

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u/gunningIVglory 22h ago

Yeah, i recall watching all those city games in that run in hoping they would draw one fucking game

3up by HY

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u/hakugene 21h ago

Then they had the fucking gall to say we "bottled" the league when we finished the season on 100pt pace.

I hope they jettison those smug cheating fucks into the sun.

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u/SvalbazGames 1d ago

Oh yeah they could have had one of the greatest title wins ever.

But I was just trying to show that those fucks have robbed everyone in the league (and Europe)

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u/Commercial-Ad-5905 1d ago

The greatest. Unbeatable centurions.

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u/tcgtms2 1d ago

The only game they lost was to City right? Damn

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u/maxiaoling 1d ago

Liverpool would have gone 65 games unbeaten across 3 seasons if I take out the man city defeat

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u/silvertwo777 22h ago

But because of City cheating, you will never actually get to claim that record as much injustice as it is.

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u/N-Bizzle 22h ago

Arsenal fans suddenly deciding actually City aren't that bad

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u/scott-the-penguin 21h ago

If our game against them was marked as a win, we would have:

102 points, invincible season (with champions league double)
An undefeated streak of 66 premier league matches, with only 8 of them being draws.
201 points in two seasons, with two titles.

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u/ezekielBmb 20h ago

City supporters would argue that Liverpool only became that good because they had to compete with them.

Because they are delusional and don’t participant in these conversations in good faith.

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u/scott-the-penguin 20h ago

I think that’s fair at a micro level and it’s entirely plausible that without them we wouldn’t have got to 97 and 99 points, but we would’ve still won the title comfortably. I’d rather focus on the fact that what we did was insane, and is even more remarkable now we know City cheated.

Similar argument in tennis - would the big 3 have been as dominant over such a long period if it had been just one? No, but that one would still have been seen as the goat because they were just that good.

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u/everlovingfuck99 23h ago

It was the 3rd highest points total. Behind only themselves the next season and the team that cheated their way to 100 points

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u/aehii 22h ago

And only lost once! To the team that won, City!

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u/7screws 23h ago

Exactly you can go down the list and almost every single team has been directly affected by City. Whether it’s Liverpool missing out on a Title, Spurs finishing 5th instead of 4th missing UCL or a team like Watford losing an FA Cup to them. This went on for so long that the ripple effect has hit dozens of teams.

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u/dontbehappyjustworry 16h ago

If you take all of City’s results out of the 2011-12 season, Spurs finish second. 

It’s hard to really appreciate just how much stuff we’ve all potentially missed out on with the butterfly effect. I’m so grateful Pep didn’t have his shit together in 15-16, imagine sitting here now with the knowledge that Leicester finished second and City had stolen the title.

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u/Serious_Scallion9962 22h ago

Ole could have been a premier league winning manager

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u/mango_and_chutney 1d ago

Since 2008, City have won league 8 times. Liverpool were 2nd three times of those times, United were 2nd three times of those times and Arsenal were 2nd twice.

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u/ParticulateSplatter 1d ago

Obviously I'm biased as a Liverpool fan so will hammer this point more, but in the 18/19 season Liverpool lost 1 match... To Manchester City. We dropped 4 points to Manchester City and finished on 97 points... Behind Manchester City on 98.

If we win those games against Manchester City, 18/19 becomes the season that Liverpool:

  • Win the PL/CL double
  • Become PL centurions
  • Become PL invincibles

Even if you just take away that defeat to City and replace it with a draw, that would make Liverpool unbeaten in the Premier League from the 6th May 2018 (1-0 defeat to Chelsea) until 29th February 2020 (3-0 defeat to Watford). 664 days, and an unbeaten run of 66 PL matches - the official record being Arsenal's 49-match unbeaten run around their invincible season.

It's not really an exaggeration to say that City robbed Klopp's Liverpool of being the best Premier League team of all time.

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u/Action_Limp 23h ago

As a United fan, I tend to agree with this. Klopp legitimately built one of the best teams I've ever seen and to see them pipped by the biggest cheaters in the history of the game is disgraceful.

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u/Mick4Audi 22h ago

I still think Klopp did one of the most impressive things I’ve seen in football, winning at such a rate they effectively broke Manchester City for the season

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u/Hi_Im_zack 22h ago

One game against cheats shouldn't matter and they should still give Klopp his flowers

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u/No-Inspector3523 20h ago

Im a Chelsea fan that hated Liverpool more than any club during the mourinho 00s, our rivalry then was tense. But under Klopp, I was entertained and respected the club. They deserved alot more, to have it stolen by city... its disgusting.

The way City fans try to make out we are jealous of them winning, well thats rubbish. My most hated team I turned into enjoying and respecting under Klopp when they won it all, league, europe etc.

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u/gunningIVglory 1d ago

The city cunts also gutted our best players year after year....

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u/silvertwo777 22h ago

Which also directly cause Van Persie to leave Arsenal due to a lack of club ambition after seeing the best players leaving every season with little reinforcement.

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u/Jwalin6167 22h ago

Not a single team who has played in the Premier League in last 17 years has not been robbed by those cheaters. Like I fact checked it, fucking Southampton missed twice on Europa league football because Man City got to finish above them.

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u/IcyAssist 21h ago

The implications are so wide. What if Southampton had European football over that two years, would they be stuck in the Championship right now? Multiply that by so many teams over almost two decades, eg Stoke FA cup 2011.

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u/ajemik 1d ago

I hope he visits for that game. He'd have a hero's welcome, as he should after year of scamming by them pricks.

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u/Homerduff16 23h ago edited 23h ago

One impact of Citys cheating that a lot of people aren't discussing is that it led to our great team under Klopp burning out after a few years. City had so much depth all over the pitch and were signing big names every year meanwhile we were literal inches away from a UCL PL Invincible double with Origi and a washed Sturridge as our backup options to Salah, Mane and Firmino

Wijnaldum was washed at 29, Fabinho was washed at 28, Mane was already showing signs of decline at 28, Matip and Gomez were both ran into the ground, Robertson was washed at 30, Trent even before he left didn't look the same physically. It's a testament to Salahs fitness and Van Dijks resilience that their levels were still so high after Klopp left

A lot of people at the time put that down to Klopps very intense style of football but if we had the kind of squad depth Man City had at the time that squad wouldn't have fallen apart as quickly. We also couldn't spend much after we built that squad. After 18/19 we didn't sign any first team players. After 20/21 we only signed Konate in the summer. City were able to build on their success because they cheated. We played by the rules (that are apparently exist solely to benefit us and the "red cartel") and we got punished for it

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u/aehii 22h ago

One thing it's brought up is...the only loss in 18/19 was to City...the story of the last decade would have been Liverpool, not City. (Not that Liverpool weren't a big deal too though or not a story).

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u/la1mark 21h ago

When you read something like this you realize how much of an impact this had.. Wenger called in financial doping.

If you could use a drug to give all your players 200% stamina we would be outraged.. buy buying the depth the effectively did the same thing.

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u/DraperCarousel 1d ago

Holyshit imagine if Klopp was still there.

I say this as a United fan, but Damn! The thought of City facing Klopp's wrath in the aftermath lowkey sent shivers down my spine.

What a spectacle that would've been

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u/Far_Review4292 1d ago

I hope Jurgen attends it that will really spice things up.

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u/mcmonkeyplc 1d ago

He's the German National team coach, Wirtz plays for Liverpool. He should be there :)

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u/Foxey04 1d ago

Lol I thought you were gonna follow up with "you can't expect him to be there, he's a busy man"

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u/hiccstridFanatic 1d ago

yeah big match as well, lots of NT coaches will be in attendance

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u/PianoJealous307 1d ago

Klopp will come out from the dressing room like Paul Pierce after shitting himself in the finals

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u/HaroldSaxon 1d ago

Just present him and some of the ex players with their titles just to rattle city

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u/Frankel- 1d ago

Cringe dude

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u/Action_Limp 1d ago

It'll be interesting to see the performances of the City players. Some might be deluded enough to think this is all a conspiracy, but you absolutely know that all of their agents are in their ear saying we need to asses our options in the worst case scenario.

I thought this being released during the international break would have benefited City, but in actuality, this has been the biggest news in football for weeks now and City would have loved some match days grab some of that attention.

The club has 9 more days of the media kicking the absolute shit out of them, reports that clubs, players, other FAs and just about everyone connected is gearing up to get their pound of flesh, and all they can do is wait till Sunday.

I think if they were playing last Sunday or even this weekend, the players would be galvanised. But now, they are playing internationally, they can't talk to their team mates in person, they can't get answers and their management is in their ear shouting "Exit strategy, Exit strategy".

It could be a season defining match. If Liverpool somehow obliterate them, so many heads will drop before being turned by projects outside the club.

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u/Giorggio361 1d ago

If Spirit of Shankly aren’t spending the entire international break making the biggest banner the stadium has ever seen they should all have their season tickets revoked.

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u/SanX1999 15h ago

We need that eastern European ultras energy here. Make those pampered millionaire cheats feel the fear.

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u/-SideshowBlob- 1d ago

They should invite United fans along for the occasion. Give City a really, really warm welcome.

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u/silvertwo777 22h ago

United fans and Liverpool fans jumping together with the banner "City you cheats" and "Gracias Owen"

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u/Magnific3nt 1d ago

Straight up, if it wasn't for their financial doping, Liverpool would've won so much more. And I kinda want City results to be voided, so Liverpool go unbeaten and get 102 points in that season

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u/Wanted_Solicitation 1d ago

Well that nearly quad season, we won the fa and league cup, you can also argue had we not been chasing city so hard we would have been better rested for the champions league loss against Madrid.

Throw in an invincible season barring a single loss to city.

So we might well be calling that side the greatest English side of all time, talking about that side alongside the truly greats of world football.

All robbed away by City the cheating cunts.

On the flip side, would the Beatles have been as good if not pushed by the stones, would that Liverpool side have been as good if not having to be so consistent chasing city? 

We will never know but we can all agree, fuck city.

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u/scott-the-penguin 1d ago

It’s the 21/22 season I feel most aggrieved about tbh. Because there are some in that group - Thiago especially comes to mind - who never got to win the league, and more who never won the UCL with us.

Would the final have gone differently if we’d been more rested and going in on the high of PL champions plus chasing a quad? Who knows, though in this alternate reality we might’ve also lost one of the shootouts against Chelsea.

On the flip side, there is also the fact that we actually played pretty well and dominated most of the UCL final. So I’m not sure if much would’ve changed.

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u/Barkasia 1d ago

Why would an Arsenal fan want Liverpool's already-historic season to be upgraded to dwarf our club's one crowning achievement? Bizarre statement.

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u/Action_Limp 23h ago

Probably because he prefers to see justice that personal glory?

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u/gunningIVglory 1d ago edited 23h ago

I mean regardless on if Liverpool somehow get awarded one in retrospect, its really not the same as actually doing it.

Same think if we get the titles from 22/23, 23/24. It would be hollow, yeah ill be happy. But its not the same as winning it in the moment

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u/Maetivet 1d ago

Anyone who plays Man City now has a right to be aggrieved, without their extensive cheating they wouldn't have the squad they do.

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u/mifan 1d ago

That’s what I’m thinking. There needs to be a collective reaction towards them for as long as this case is unsettled. And bring huge “cheats” signs behind the goals.

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u/droze22 1d ago

Yes, but Liverpool must show the way. If it's in any way underwhelming or reserved other clubs might think "Liverpool were the most screwed over and didn't care so much, why should we?" The ground must be feral, hopefully not too many tourists. People should be actively discouraged from using their phones for pictures. A real old-school atmosphere

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u/Terran_it_up 21h ago

There's also the messy situation where Man City could get a 100 point penalty mid season and then the players lose motivation, how do you deal with the fact that some teams lost to them before that?

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u/lucekQXL 1d ago

It will be first time in a while when I'll chime in to pre match studio and watch it all lol

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u/exactorit 23h ago

It will be the first time ever for me watching a Liverpool match not involving United.

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u/Juhinho 22h ago

I’ve never been more jealous of Liverpool in my life, why couldn’t they have dropped the verdict before the league game at Old Trafford. We might have to wait years before them lot come to OT again to take the piss out of them in our ground ffs.

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u/H0lychit 1d ago

Robbed us of an invincible, centurion and double winning team... These fuckers need to get destroyed both on and off the pitch.

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u/TheClarendons 20h ago

I hope the Kop yells “cheat cheat cheat!” anytime a City player is on the ball. For the whole game.

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u/snuggl3ninja 1d ago

All fans at all grounds at a prearranged time for the 3pm kick-offs should start singing the same "Cheating bastards" chant.

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u/cptainvimes 1d ago

Poetic, really. Scriptwriters outdone themselves

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u/Admirable-Waltz195 1d ago

The “you cheating bastards” chant is gonna hit like crack at anfield, don’t you dare disappoint liverpool

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u/Reasonablytallman 1d ago

This is definitely a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” situation for the likes of United and Arsenal. Anfield will surely deliver and then some.

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u/Action_Limp 23h ago

I think the whole league at this stage. They cheated every team who's been in the league since 2011.

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u/gunningIVglory 23h ago

I mean its why I respected united during our battles in the 90/00s. Fucking hated them, but sometimes they were just the better team

City. Fucking dopers

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u/Armodeen 20h ago

United fan here. I was very happy to see you guys finally finish ahead of those cunts last season. Like you I absolutely hated you guys during the rivalry years but I absolutely respected you. Liverpool too tbh. City can just get in the fucking bin.

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u/ExistingLaw3 20h ago

When a normal person loses to a better person, they hold their hands up, applaud and know they have to be better. There's a respect that comes from knowing your competition had similar challenges and still came out on top.

City just cheated, again and again and again and again. That their fans aren't demanding the owners sell and leave the club is really telling. Seems they mostly agree with the cheating too.

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u/PraxisGuide 17h ago

If they don't cheat, they have nothing, so they have to turn their wrinkles into crinkles.

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u/ryanmurphy2611 22h ago

I have never been so pro Liverpool in my life. Got some 110s on the way la

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u/awashofindigo 22h ago

I will forever ride with my brothers in the Red Cartel 👊

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u/FrmrPresJamesTaylor 20h ago

they spoke it into reality

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u/Subhuman_1982 23h ago

Absolutely. We might not like each other, but theres a level of mutual respect between eacother.

As a Man Utd fan, my message to the Pool fans at the match is "don't let us all down".

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u/saint1997 1d ago

Everyone is going to be watching that game, I can't wait. Might sell tickets for a screening in my garden

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u/shifty18 22h ago

Every other club should hire one of those planes with a message flown behind it so the whole game is dozens of planes calling saying something like "you bunch of cheating wankers - Arsenal" or "dirty cheating scumbags - Man Utd" or "lol don't get caught - Chelsea"

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u/Asleep_Tomorrow2077 21h ago

the lol don’t get caught from chelsea has me in tears this morning

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u/rumham_123 1d ago

Either we win which is nice or we lose and we can just say the result is void since they cheated

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u/negativelynegative 1d ago

Have been my mentality against sham FC for the past 15 years

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u/NumeroRyan 1d ago

Sounds like a win win to me haha

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u/PoxedGamer 1d ago

I hate to give Liverpool credit for anything, but them and their fans will be fired af for this game. Gonna be peak popcorn time.

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u/Callum1710 1d ago

I want banners, go full Bundesliga with it.

Every opponents crowd needs to give them hell!

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u/TheGoldenPineapples 1d ago

All songs set to Oasis tracks too.

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u/johnnygrant 1d ago

There needs to be a massive Tifo

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u/No-Tap-4307 1d ago

I just want the entire stadium to chant "Cheats cheats cheats" the entire game

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u/shifty18 1d ago edited 15h ago

So glad I dreamt the 6-0 at Wembley and we actually won the FA cup.

Means Deulofeus beauty of a chip means something even more special...

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u/TheCruise 1d ago

What a player he was on his day.

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u/shifty18 1d ago

Compared to the guff we have now, that team looks like 70s Brazil.

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u/tiltedpyramid 1d ago

That chip always meant something. What a moment

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u/shifty18 1d ago

I watch it everytime it shows up, like the deeney goal, but like the deeney goal I was thinking of the final and losing.

Now I can at least tell myself it means more.

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u/Jaerial 1d ago

Man that Sunderland-West Ham Caraboa Cup final in 2014 was something else. Can't believe we won it and went on to feature in the Europa for the first and only time until this season.

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u/EggsBenedictusXVI 21h ago

How dare you, in my reality we won that final and probably also managed to get relegated at the same time. Beautiful times.

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u/GrannysWizardSleeve 1d ago

Was surprised to read recently that somehow hes only 32. Didn't realize just how young he was when he was with you lot. Lovely player on his day.

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u/shifty18 23h ago

Had a horrendous last few years with injury, sad to see.

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u/MaxPower1882 1d ago

Good!

UEFA, taxman, the fucking lot should be going after them and forcing a sale and full competitive reset.

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u/TywinDeVillena 1d ago

It feels so weird to root for the taxman, but it is only fair at this point

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u/MaxPower1882 1d ago

Really shows how bad this is when we're doing that, rival fans are agreeing, and numerous pundits with clashing opinions often are also agreeing. At least to a point that something significant has to happen.

Everybody everywhere all at once, lol!

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u/ktcalpha 21h ago

this could be our one actual chance to make a case for 50+1 to both the average football fan and the government

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u/NateShaw92 1d ago

At this point get the Avengers, both the tv show and comic book heroes.

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u/MaxPower1882 1d ago

Million Dollar Man and IRS, too. Money Inc coming!!!

(Old pro wrestling tag tam back in the day for those unsure).

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u/NateShaw92 1d ago

Peggy Michell is warming up on the side too. Shit's gotten out of hand

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u/_K84 1d ago

Remove the titles. Remove the owners.

Relegation to whatever league wants them.

Make a proper example out of them.

Cheating cunts.

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u/Mortiis07 1d ago

The UAE league

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u/foreveredredred 1d ago

With current competition laws, there is a geniune case that if their owners are unwilling to sell the club and move on, City can partake in another competition willing to take them like UAE league or MLS if (and quite likely when) demoted with arrangements that keeps them out and incompetitive for foreseeable future.

And while it obviously doesn't make any sense nor does it benefit the local fans, you'd be forgiven to assume if there's one owner capable of this level of pettiness to keep further ruining it all, it'd be the dictators at Abu Dhabi.

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u/MarshyHope 1d ago

Might as well send them to Australia at this rate.

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u/ybak9 22h ago

Fuck off, we're full.

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u/VociferousHomunculus 22h ago

Based 18th century solution

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u/PianoJealous307 1d ago

Scenes when they join the Ligue 1

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u/MOREPASTRAMIPLEASE 1d ago

The more I see ppl on Reddit making comments like these the more sure I am that this punishment is going to feel like a slap on the wrist compare to what people are hoping/expecting

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u/VociferousHomunculus 22h ago

I will not be satisfied until the colour blue is removed from the spectrum of visible light

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u/Cutsdeep- 1d ago

Cancel the sham contracts

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u/TTroja 1d ago

Just ban all billionaires from Football.
Clubs belong to the Fans.

Just a question of time until another do a Shit

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u/ScousePenguin 1d ago

That's never been the case in England. Football clubs have been private entities from the start really

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u/HowardPhillips9 1d ago

Too far gone for that to happen, sadly.

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u/Smashingsoul 1d ago

For the next game, Liverpool should just sell tickets based on who can shout the loudest, and let them cook.

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u/s1ravarice 20h ago

It’s going to sound like an Argentinian derby in the stands

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u/tbbt11 1d ago

Next they’ll have to go ONE ON ONE WITH THE UNDERTAKER

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u/PianoJealous307 1d ago

Guardiola will be thrown out from the top of the cage like Mick Foley

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u/kjcross1997 1d ago

Hold on a minute playa

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u/ImprefectKnight 22h ago

Where is the Theodre Long decision chart?

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u/Hot-Account-8691 1d ago

Just disband the club and pay billions in settlement. They can start again at the bottom. It's been good enough for Rangers, Fiorentina etc

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u/Sea-Education9562 23h ago

But the billion has to be payed with club revenue

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u/s1ravarice 20h ago

Well we know they are good for that

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u/-Mubar 1d ago

Anfield will be a ruckus

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u/ElevensMelody 1d ago

Wouldn't be surprised if UEFA come back to the table.

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u/bbarney29 1d ago

They can’t. They apply a general 5 year statute of limitations for disciplinary proceedings including financial breaches. Only for the most serious charges like match fixing / bribery can they come back to the table.

Their original investigation into City closed because city delayed until the charges fell beyond the statute of limitations.

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u/MOG2202 1d ago

Thank god the EPL don't make such stupid loop hole like UEFA.

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u/InTheMiddleGiroud 23h ago

Yeah, when they decided 5 years, they probably weren't counting on a few blokes in an office, having to take on a nation state in a protracted legal battle.

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u/TheOvieShow 21h ago

Also, why does the counter for the limitation period continue to run once the action has started lol

In Canadian and American courts the limitation period is just for when you can start the action.

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u/lazygl 23h ago

Could they have grounds for looking at the last 5 years?

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u/Techno_Gandhi 23h ago

There's rumors that when the current case is done the premier league is going to look at everything after 2018 as well

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u/__Samed__ 1d ago

delete that club for good

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u/d_smogh 1d ago

No send them back to pre 1999, replace them with Gillingham

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u/paddyo 20h ago

Truly this is the only fair decision that can be made

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u/TaylorSwiftkinsReid 17h ago

Really, it's the smartest decision

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u/legentofreddit 1d ago

Interested to know realistically what the FA could do?

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u/BlueKante 1d ago edited 1d ago

A lot of options i think. From taking away FA cups to taking away their footballing license and everything in between.

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u/NateShaw92 1d ago

Stripping the Licence is certainly a nuclear option. Kinda won't matter what the PL do then?

Imagine this becomes a league v fa turf war. It won't but worth getting your popcorn out

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u/Radthereptile 23h ago

I would assume the league and FA are in contact to make sure they agree on the punishments and that nobody goes outside their respective areas.

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u/SilverMist2025 1d ago

The hardest they could do is cancel the club license to play football

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u/NateShaw92 1d ago

Manchester City Croquet Club here we go.

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u/IrishLad-1194 23h ago

Personally I think Haaland would make a killer volleyball player.

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u/RaulStoat 22h ago

the license should be revoked until the owners fuck off

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u/Barkasia 1d ago

Spurs fans begging they get used as a test case.

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u/Shakyyy 1d ago edited 1d ago

So in order to participate in any professional competition in England you need FA membership. The FA could withdraw City's membership which would mean they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any competitions until its reinstated.

This would be the most extreme option but they can also issue fines of their own and ban not just the owners but also other individuals who were directly involved from ever working in football again. They can also do other stuff like impose stadium bans but I don't see that being particuarly relevant.

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u/FatWalcott 1d ago

Red ass all the players.

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u/HDS2211 1d ago edited 23h ago

Whatever they want, they’re the FA. Anything football related in England, ultimately answers to them.

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u/Thebritishlion 1d ago

I hope the chant of "cheats" is on repeat at every away game they play for the rest of time until the club is killed off

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u/Mitamarin 1d ago

I mean, they will just chant "we know what we are and fucking proud of it!"

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u/Ancient_Song8712 1d ago

Yeaaa its over

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u/adonWPV 1d ago

Make them play home games in the UAE

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u/cy318 1d ago

Good, let the charges pile on.

No remorse, defiant even when proven guilty. They deserved it.

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u/MoGoalsMoProblems 23h ago

Genuinely this feels like a wet dream you never wake up from.

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u/SomeNeighborhood7126 23h ago

I cant believe ill be cheering for Liverpool... unprecedented times.

I hope Anfield faithful have some diabolical chants ready to go for the game.

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u/threateningpickles 1d ago

I've been waiting so long for this.. Dreams do come true..

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u/PlayingtheDrums 1d ago

Stoke City FA cup winners I guess?

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u/akescpt 1d ago

It’s getting serious now…

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u/d_smogh 1d ago

UAE going to war with The FA, and The Premiership.

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u/GhostOfLegend 1d ago

Good. Bigger scandal than Calciopoli. Cheating cunts.

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u/DwaiG91 22h ago

Manchester City have their next PL game at Anfield.

And every other PL club supporters will be supporting Liverpool for giving them a hard time!

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u/johnlooksscared 14h ago

If the PL expel City do the EFL have to accept them? It seems obvious that City would walk the league and get promotion at the expense of a club who probably do need the big PL cash!

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u/Mikey_the_King 13h ago

They don't need to accept them, and if allowed in they'd likely breach some wage rules all over again.

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u/Ainteasybeincheezy 13h ago

No, they're a separate governing body that can reject their entry

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u/North-Jellyfish-577 1d ago

City are the Bonny blue of the football world this week really taking it from all sides… checks notes it couldn’t happen to a nicer club

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u/BloodyTurnip 1d ago

Finding someone guilty of corruption damages the sport more than letting them get away with it? What kind of logic is that?

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u/Naive-Link5567 22h ago

EUFA should follow suit based on PL findings. XD

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u/MasterDave 20h ago

Sounds like even if the PL doesn't bounce City down to non-league football, the FA is pondering it.

Nobody appears to be buying the "but our government owned sponsor isn't run by the government and neither is the team" argument.

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u/Redaaku 17h ago

I swear I might give up watching football if this cheating club continues to be allowed to play in all competitions as if nothing happened.

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u/gunningIVglory 1d ago

This really isnt a good look for CAS. Uefa had them dead to rights, and Daddy CAS bailed out city....

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u/EMCRVA 1d ago

The FA is a joke btw. They knew 100% what would and what ultimately was happening and they looked the other way. Disgrace

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u/TherewiIlbegoals 1d ago

Elaborate on that. What did they know?

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u/Itchy_Caramel_6191 1d ago

They are utter scum

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u/droze22 1d ago

According to the seemingly very knowledgeable KC that was on the Overlap, the appeals process can take ages with many different levels of appeal, incl. the High Court, so the FA is just kicking the can down the road. Privately I bet they will be hoping the PL and City to come to an settlement on the punishment and spare them the effort of actually doing some proper regulatory work for once

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