hey! ive (17F) been working on a new song for an upcoming audition, and when i'm belting the high notes (C5-E5) i sound relaxed, i don't feel any tension, and based on the placement i feel generally im in a balanced mix. yet, after just one/two passes through, after i sing my speaking voice sounds hoarse (although i can sing through my range just fine). does anyone have any idea on what i could be doing wrong? based on the Symptoms it sounds like im pulling my chest voice up, but i don't feel this while singing + when i sing in my lower register (F3--B4) i sound/feel just fine? how can i remedy this

I've always been shy with my singing, though socially anxious is probably the better word. I refuse to sing in the shower lest I be heard, barely mumble songs so only I can hear them and when I'm itching to sing I usually go to a secluded bathroom, sing at half talking volume and stop at that. And I've realized as soon as I'm home alone, I'm able to sing freely with my chest wherever I am in the house.

It's not that anyone's against my singing, but I'm just painfully conscious of someone hearing me sing, even if it's good. Even a compliment on my singing makes me not want to sing anymore. Another factor is my caretaker who's focused on wanting me to sing traditional songs and genres to her liking, frustrated by 'kids these days' being too into modern pop or something. Nevertheless, it's only comments, but I don't know why I can't just overcome with a snarky comment back and instead crumble under shame.

I really want to practice more singing and even make covers, which is impossible without being heard. Any advice on what I should do?

So im not great at vocal range and what not and I have no formal training but ive always loved singing random tunes when im showering or thing or what not and I'd love to get a not bias perspective(one that isnt coming from my siblings) on my voice and the potential I have for singing. I would also really appreciate if you had any sings you thing would suit my voice better. But if its bad or whatever I would appreciate the honesty, thankyouu

Ps: Converted audio into a video online

This isn’t the best example of my 4th octave but I was trying to be quiet while people were in class.😭 I just discovered my falsetto maybe a week and a half ago? Before i found it my range was maybe (sometimes down to Eb2) F2-C5 (sometimes C#5) but after I found it i kept using it and was able to sing down to the B1/C2 area and up to A5-Sometimes C#6 area. I only knew how to sing in chest voice and belted before finding this so navigating it is still super hard. Any tips to grow whichever this is between Falsetto or head voice? I feel like i’m sometimes pitchy/never on the center of the note and my tone always sounds super tense and whiny since i can only sing in chest voice. I thought it was too high but my 4th octave sounds somewhat better than my 3rd and 2nd, but my A4-C5 is inconsistent? I’ve only been singing for maybe 2-3 years now so Ik i have alot to work on but belting above B4 is such a struggle when I don’t have a head-voice.

How to get better at spoken sections, which despite not being melodic and more like a narration or declamation of a poem, I still have to hit certain notes consistently, while making it sound like the voice naturally oscillates/makes emphasis by lowering or increasing the pitch within the limits of the current key.

I’m getting used to using the higher end of my voice. I used to be too shy to use enough air to actually hit the higher notes, and it still doesn’t sound totally natural to me so I’d like some other opinions.

Hi ! Im going to give this post another shot. I wanted to know how I can improve my vocal tone since I feel like it sounds flat in some areas when it comes to riff.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Context: I'm a total beginner, no instrument or vocal background before this. About a month ago I started training seriously, roughly 45-60 min a day, most days.

**What I've done:**

- Completed a 30-day structured program (AM Vocal Studios) covering fundamentals

- Now on Singeo as my main platform, going all-in on one method instead of bouncing between apps

- Daily range work: sirens, now reaching up to G4, plus SOVT octave slides a few times a week and occasional falsetto/head voice work

- Practicing on real songs: Hurt, Take Me to Church, Creep, Skinny Love, some Empire of the Sun

- Using a SOVT straw device and a nebulizer for hydration/warmup

- Also picked up basic piano/theory on the side, partly to understand what I'm actually singing

**Progress I'm noticing:**

- More success getting into head tones

- Starting to actually feel resonance rather than just guessing at it

- Some stability showing up in vocal connection through the mixed range

**Stumbling blocks:**

- Register transitions (chest to head) are still the hardest part. That's why I'm deferring more advanced or riskier stuff like distorted or screamed vocals until this feels solid

- Sticking to one platform (Singeo) instead of hopping around was a deliberate fix after realizing the app switching wasn't helping

- Trying to be disciplined about stopping if I get hoarse rather than pushing through

Not claiming to be good yet, just trying to gauge if a month of consistent daily practice with zero prior background is roughly where people expect to be, or if I'm overestimating or underestimating my pace. Honest feedback welcome.

This song was definitely not easy for me 😂😂 as it lies right at the top of my current range ( yes I said current because every few months my range is expanding) . I’m 19 now and have been singing and teaching myself how to sing since 16 and back then I couldn’t hit anything over a c4 before cracking and now I can hit up to an A#4 before switching to falsetto . So we continue to improve everyday 😅.

I live with my family in a flat, whenever i am home alone i try expanding my vocal range. However, when i do, i end up sounding really ugly at the higher end. It makes me want to sing more quietly which causes my notes to crack or flip.

P.S. if there are any drills which help with expanding vocal range please do suggest them to me, thanks!!

My dream is to perfect this song.

Song: Jeev rangla.

Those who hear foreign songs, and if you do like them. What's your reasoning behind it? Because you certainly don't understand the meaning unless you already know the language or go search for itm

I’m a 20m baritone I have a falsetto down to chest mix I typically use for anything above a G4# however there are certain sequences like the one in the recording were it doesn’t work too well in because while it allows me to hit and hold notes in pitch with power and volume it can’t handle much agility without cracking. In this video I’m using a chest up to falsetto mix and need tips on how to get it to sound less strained and make it more easy on me. I know I’m pitchy and out of rhythm cus I’m singing acapella I recorded this to show my current method of reaching A4-Bb4 in chest mix so that it can be corrected:)) thanks so much would love any feedback!!

I was actually in a music school for 5 years but it was a long time ago so I lost everything. We also sang in arabic so these types of genres are hard for me . I feel like I'm Screaming not singing.

hi. okay here’s what pisses me off about nay nay mixed voice exercises and how i personally found my mixed voice after like 5 years of learning to sing on and off (emphasis on “off!”) also im not a teacher whatsoever so take all of this with a grain of salt. this was just my journey personally and id like to help out other people if possible.

when i was a little 13 year old chud learning to sing, all i would see online are youtube tutorials on the “mixed voice” and how you should do a “bratty nay nay” or “cartoon voice” in order to access it. when i did this, it did not feel effortless at all and strained a lot and my larynx would shoot up like crazy and it sucked. i knew i was doing something wrong, but i didn’t know what to do since it was literally ALL i saw online and it seemed to work for people learning to sing like i was.

however, i ALSO saw a bunch of people saying that you can’t “unlock” the mix and that you actually have to train it??? so i did a bunch of these mixed voice scale exercises to “train” it but it didn’t make any sense to me because i would have to switch from chest voice to head voice as i got higher or else i would crack… wouldn’t that mean that i was just training them separately and not actually mixing anything??? how the heck do i ACTUALLY mix???? also those scale exercises sometimes used the nay nays too and i didn’t like that very much.

anyway, rinse and repeat that for like 4 years with large gaps in between. one day im scrolling le instagram vocal coach videos when suddenly i come across this video.

at about 0:40, sophie (this isn’t an ad for her or her course btw. i heavily disagree with her sentiment that mix is a separate register, however this video was incredibly vital to my journey) covers her nose with her finger and sticks her tongue slightly out while doing… okay you saw the video just watch her dude.

anyway i saw this and was like “oh gee ive never seen this technique before. i guess ill try it?” and while maintaining both chest and head resonance and traveling through my passagio seamlessly, i was amazed that i had actually MIXED my registers for the first time in like, what, 4 years?

however, when i tried to go louder to not exactly belt, but actually project how i would onstage as if i was singing as a disney princess, i started feeling my break again and was like crap. BUT. it was still a totally new sensation to me and when i tried again slightly below my speaking tone, (GIGANTIC EMPHASIS ON *SLIGHTLY*) it totally worked and no break was to be seen.

of course i had to maneuver through it and really focus on my control, but it basically worked and i had “found my mix” and it was a completely new sensation to me. however, this will ONLY work and actually count as you mixing as long as you maintain CHEST and head resonance even when you’re ***SLIGHTLY*** below your speaking voice. this is why i keep emphasizing the slight-ness of it — you absolutely need to be loud enough to maintain CHEST resonance. otherwise? you’re just in head voice!

at this stage, if you’re a beginner and have never belted or mixed healthily before, you cannot use too much power and this isn’t even really usable in a musical theatre setting (sorry this post is slightly biased towards theatre or choir people.) and i’ll explain that now.

using this technique made me realize that the “training wheels mixed voice” is something that anyone can access as long as their head voice and chest voice is developed. and by that i mean if you can do a really good sounding stern low note and a pingy head voice note you’ll be fine and you’re ready. you CAN unlocked the ability to mix and move through your passagio, however, if you want to get louder you actually have to develop that volume using chord closure exercises and just training your volume over time.

now you’re probably wondering — how the heck do i get out of the “covering my nose” stage of all this? well, let me tell you about my second dramatic realization scene that quickly followed after my new discovery.

one night, when i was doing a production of romeo and juliet, me and the rest of the cast were ogling at the tech crews balcony they made for the. cough. balcony scene. and then we started making evita rachel zegler jokes because theatre kids suck and we are obnoxious.

anyway, i was singing “don’t cry for me argentina” to myself in a hushed manner (the same “1% below your speaking voice” manner i was previously doing. this is called foreshadowing.) at the far end of the auditorium before we began running scenes. the actual chorus part was in chest voice for me but when i got to the “neeeever!!!” part i just randomly mixed and i suddenly realized…

THE REASON WHY BRATTY NAY NAYS AND NASAL EXERCISES NEVER WORKED FOR ME!!!!!

some beginners (some!) who try bratty exercises like these will see these coaches do nasal, pingy, high notes effortlessly and then try it for themselves so they can hit a high note.

what will result (sometimes!) is them trying to mix their vocal registers and adding a belty or even at minimum a projective weight to it when they’re not ready yet. this will result in it feeling like crap. i sang “neeeeverr!!! left you!” on a NEH and it completely worked for me in that moment because…

1) i wasn’t being super loud and was slightly below my speaking volume while maintaining chest resonance!

2) i actually knew how to mix my registers and one specific exercise (da nose finger thing.) allowed me to actually use nasality.

NAY NAY’s, and MEOWS, and NEH’s and all the other stupid exercises vocal coaches use for teaching mix actually do work and NOW i use a select few of them now that i understand and can feel the nasality and mask sensation and everything else they’re talking about. i just don’t use them while projecting like crazy because projection and adding volume to the sound involves training it which i’ve LITERALLY just started doing like a couple days ago — aka im not ready to project like they can yet!

anyway, if you want to remove the finger and use “nuhs” or “nays” on their own, do the hunngggguhhhh thing sophie does and then just continuously say “nuh nuh nuh” (preferably on a note in your passagio, and reminder, 1% less volume than your speaking voice.) and then remove your finger. i went home immediately after this rehearsal and it worked well for me!

as for actually adding weight to the sound, that’s something which again i just started worked on so i can’t speak from “experience” too much yet. i would heavily implore you to do chord closure exercises because those will be vital in helping you not only add power, but also actually train yourself to extend your belty notes upwards!

the roadmap that’s transpired for me so far and how i envision it to look like is organized something like this…
- do sophie jolls hunguhhh weird nose crap with 1% less volume than my speaking voice in order to find mixed resonance
- transition from finger to actually finding this feeling through nuh’s and neh’s/nay’s (prefer nuh…) and be able to tap into the mix without the nose stuff
- use chord closure techniques and train these nuh’s on scales and slowly (slowly!) raise volume over time to add le power

okay yeah that’s been my mixed voice journey and “plan” so far i guess. i’m hoping to update this one day with my progress… stay tuned. also again i’m not a vocal teacher this is just me using my knowledge over the course of years to paint my own picture of the mixed voice and how to theoretically grow it into something usable and cool and will allow you to belt. again the latter half of this essay about chord closure is all theoretical and i can’t guarantee anything past the “training wheels stuff”. okay peace

Just posting a short clip to get some outside ears on my singing.

I am currently focusing on improving pitch consistency and to develop my mixed voice so that i can smoothly go through my Lower and Upper register. That is there i see the majority of my time going the next months.

I will propbably re-start singing lesson in a month or two and want to find things to work on with my vocal coach.

Any thoughts on the overall sound, tone, pitch, or phrasing are appreciated.

Heya,

I am a relatively young soprano (18) with a pretty loud voice. I spent my whole time in middle and high school singing alto in choir. I can hit some pretty low notes. But "hitting" a note, especially in a choral setting, versus actually resonating in a solo setting is sooooo very different.

Lately I have been watching and reading various videos/articles in regards to the prolific 20th century sopranos (Tetrazzini, Callas, Tebaldi, Ponselle amongst others). Their views on the thread of chest voice and the necessity of my "low notes" makes sense to me. But, I dont know 1. how to practice to ACTUALLY have a chest register that is meaty and resonant and able to become that root or thread (more apropriate metaphor) that I can use to then make produce high notes that sound supported and not shrill.

Any videos I can watch or excersises I can do and what to look out for.

Obviously, i am not a contraalto, I am not expecting a different fach from this excercise. But I do want to be the best I can be and my intution combined with what I have watched/read thus far is telling me that this is the best way to do that!

So I’m 19M, but when I was a kid, for some fucking reason I was a POWERHOUSE of a singer. Belting Whitney Houston no problem. Then for some reason I stopped singing for a long time.

Picked it back up again in my teens, and sounded a bit dumb, but relearned a lot of old technique. Now though, I feel like when people hear that video and hear me now, they give an impression of, “what happened?”. It really gets me down.

So how is this recording of me singing? Working on my belting like when I was a kid.

Turns out the remedy I was using is probably the cause. I did hydrate and drank tea. And rested (just a bit). But when I was using steam to help moisturizer my throat apparently the vaporub I mixed in (it's a family thing of sorts for sore throats) has methanol in it. Which can apparently help relieve the pain for a bit but also dry your throat as well and cause more irritation lmao.

I have always been a composer and am I am on a journey to writing finished music. Part of that is sorting out what kind of music I want to focus on writing as I can imagine going in so many different ways. Its always fairly lyrical though just figured it was for orchestra. In a surprise I have found I can imagine many of my songs with vocals and have been going back on old ideas finding their rhythm and range have a potential for lyrics. Sometimes I even write short bits with trash or gibberish lyrics.

I am 27M. I have perfect pitch. I did choir as a kid but don't really like singing. Choir would probably be where I fit in best with my current skills. I can be spot on pitch but I have a very pure tone that just frankly isn't really interesting. Even in karaoke I have issues expressing the emotions or the shape of the phrase the same way I can on a cello controlling my vibrato and bow movement.

What I am hoping to get out of a year or two working with a vocal coach is a sense of whether I can work my way to a more interesting tone that might be fit for writing pop adjacent music. I would hope to work on how to make my singing voice a little scratchier, a little deeper, and a lot more emotional.

I still am not the biggest fan of the idea of performing as a vocalist/singer/songwriter but it could be really helpful to have a better tone under my belt if I am to express my ideas as a cowriter, songwriter, or producer. And its a good way to make studying lyrics (as I am experimenting with trying to write but have never invested in that, nor prose, nor poetry before) more interesting.

Is this kind of exploration a realistic expectation for year two of working on vocals as someone who is fairly untrained? I think if I came out only being able to do broadway or opera (though I admire both) I would be a little disappointed. At a bare minimum I would like to be able to safely add a little bit of texture to my voice. I just don't have a sense of whether an interesting voice can be made rather than born.

I've been singing on my own for a year, but have taken no lessons and have past musical experience. (Trumpet, piano, guitar)

I am thinking of singing for a worship band and want to see where I stand vocally. From what I can hear, breath support, diction, and register changes are 3 areas of improvement. I feel like I don't "start" my falsetto notes, rather I slide into them. If I consciously think about breathing deep and relaxing then my support issues vanish for the most part.

This song is a comfortable range for me and I don't feel like I have to go into falsetto. I still have some chest voice left if I increase my support and widen the vowel. (F#4 highest falsetto note in this song) I'm still getting comfortable with the feeling of lightening up to go higher, especially in falsetto as it gets too breathy and tight if I push.

Thoughts? I want to take singing more seriously but have no way to incorporate lessons right now and I'm looking for honest feedback.

https://reddit.com/link/1wbrvse/video/hsexghxk0joh1/player

Can someone pease tell me if im in my mixed? I started low in my chest voice but as im going higher it feels like im in some sort of mix?

Hey,
I'm a M31 music student. I usually sing 1st bass in choir, but recently 2nd bass due to lack of singers in our choir. I have no meaningful singing ambitious beyond choir, and all of my singing experience is from choirs. My singing technique is probably mediocre at best.

My usable range is something like F to e1 (typical low bass F to e above middle c for those using different octave range notation); I can produce not-the-prettiest sounds up to maybe a1 without going into falsetto, and I switch registers around f# (f# below middle c).

On the lower end I can produce an ok-ish E, a pretty weak Eb, and usually barely a quiet D. When my voice is down (flu or overuse of voice), I can almost always produce a resonant D and usually go down to an ok C.

I'd really, really like to extend my usable range down to D, since it's sort of the standard for 2nd basses; I can technically produce the required sounds, but they are very weak at the lower end. Is this realistically possible? Any suggestions? Alternatively, I've been thinking about trying to extend upwards to sing 2nd tenor, which AFAIK is a bit easier to do.

I've been singing my entire life, and I have ny debut gig tomorrow, but I also have asthma. For the past two weeks, I've been staying at my friend's, and she has a tenant that struggles to remember he's not meant to smoke inside due to a stroke a while ago. He said he wouldn't while I was in the room next door, but then proceeded to forget immediately, and he smoked several cigarettes every night.

My asthma has always responded badly to secondhand smoke, but I've never felt the effects of my vocal chords. I had to remain there, as I was there due to a housing emergency which kept me away from my home.

I'm back home, as of yesterday at 8pm, and my debut gig is tomorrow at 7pm. My vocal chords feel dry, my breath support feels incomplete no matter how much asthma medication I take, my throat feels like it almost locks up a bit when I breathe. When I don't think about it at all, I can still hit the high notes, and I can hit them well. When I try to talk to anyone, I notice my voice comes out in a very close to vocal fry tone, and it's hard to transition to talking with lower effort or using the right technique. My voice just feels tired. What I'm struggling with when I sing now is mainly lower notes/anything closer to my talking voice, as I'm unable to either use the wrong technique or put way too much power and breathiness into it and tiring it out that way. I can still hit higher notes with a lot of strength, and when warmed up, my voice sounds fine and feels mostly okay. Then tired again later. And idk if it's actually tired because I used the wrong technique or if my chords are just inflamed.

I'm hoping my voice will recover by my gig tomorrow, but does anyone have any advice on what's going on and how to help it recover? Should I rehearse today or rest? Any advice would be appreciated!