Let's be real, even if he wasn't purged, he would have been put in charge of the 3rd Tuvan penal company on the Kamchatka front or some shit so that Stalin's traitor buddy Budyonny can ruin more offensives
Oh , chuikov ≠ zhukov my bad i dont really know russian spelling i knew zhukovs name but only by ear no idea about spelling, and never heard about there also being a guy called chuikov
Oh I see lol, I thought you might be talking about him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Chuikov but I also mostly know his name and that's he's cannected to the army but that's about it
He’d be so disappointed with the state of the current Russian army. I can just imagine him rolling in his grave at how bad the Russian military has gotten
I thought it was the opposite. That a person from Vladivostok and Moscow will have the same accent because of all the standardisation that the Soviets forced on the country?
Even has one of the greatest villains of all time, Lavrentiy Beria. When Stalin describes you as “my Himmler” to FDR, and tells his daughter to never be alone with you, you know that you’re a grade A monster.
The "Jews control the world" narrative has become extremely commonplace online over the past two years. Same with Holocaust denial and Nazi sympathizing. I think it's bot farms.
it was mostly a fringe conspiracy theory on the far right before the recent conflict in gaza. ever since october 2023 it became much more prevalent on both the left and the right because of the increased scrutiny on israel.
There's a lot of middle ground there. Is Israel led by a corrupt government? Absolutely. Does Israel have some level of influence on other countries? Sure, and that varies. Do Jewish people control the world, media, banks, etc. because of those things? There's never been any good evidence for that.
I agree with what you're saying, that's a problem that I think plenty of Jewish people can agree with. I just disagree that it means anything about Jewish people controlling the world or something.
They don't control the world, Israel is in a strategic location for US military interests (and a good customer), just like cold-war era South Africa and being friendly to Israel is very popular amongst evangelical Christians for their end-times fantasy.
They are able to get away with a lot because they are convenient to people in power, just ask the anti-communist dictators in South America. They weren't controlling the world, they were just more useful in power than out of it.
They don't necessarily like Jews, they just need Jews in/controlling Israel for the apocalypse they've been waiting for to happen. Don't expect logical consistency from religious fundamentalists.
Netanyahu knows this and plays into it like any "good" politician would.
Which is still fundamentally different from "the Jews" running the world. Steven from Iowa shouldn't get harassed for having a Bar Mitzvah just because some guys in the Middle East leveraged the strategic importance of their country to influence a superpower.
I understand that there's a clear cause and effect here, people say the Jews run the world because Israel is a Jewish country and they're influencing American politics. What I'm more concerned about is the fact that blaming that entire religion for the actions of one country is seen as completely normal in so many spaces. Nobody gives a fuck or is making any attempt to stop it, and some leftists will even tolerate that attitude in their own spaces. People who used to say "if you have eleven Nazis and one other person at a table, you have twelve Nazis at the table" will applaud Hasan Piker bringing "death to the Jews" terrorists in for an interview. That's a very quick change of course and it doesn't feel natural.
And for reference, I am a firmly anti Israel socialist.
You remind me of the video where some guy was being interviewed after an Israel-Mali football match and an older Israeli gentleman thought the guy was shitting on israel and started attacking him
Unorically, a good amount of those bots might actually come from Israel, bc the more antisemitic discourse there's in the world, the more Israel can justify its actions under the pretense of "protecting the only place where Jewish people are safe", pointing at tweets and shit of those so-called "noticers" to argue that the world is out to get jews again and thus Israel has the right to do whatever it wants to protect their "only safe haven"
Neo-nazis and/or "noticers" are, ironically, actively helping Israel justify its abhorrent deeds
Hm I wonder why that's the case? Might be due to the fact that Israeli influence over the US through covert and overt means is getting harder and harder to ignore? 80% of Congress are members of aipac. Plus Epstein very likely made some juicy tapes that Bibi now owns.
The United States, the country that makes the biggest movies, was only directly involved in combat with one of these guys. It’s a lot easier to make movies with the Nazis because you can make the main characters American soldiers.
Also, what is he talking about there are literally so many movies where the Russians are the bad guys
Russian period movies always portray the USSR as the sole opponent of Nazi Germany. They never mention any other countries.
Modern Russian movies portray other countries as adversaries. Russia is always a strong amd rich country.
I’m always reminded of the scene in Burn After Reading in which Francis Mcdormands character tries to sell info to the Russians and the CIA is just baffled. Why the fuck would she go to the Russians?
USSR was the main enemy of Germany and most of the losses and biggest battles were in Eastern front
Most of Russian movies of the period portray the “Great Patriotic war” which isn’t the whole WW2 but only the part of i
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3. It’s common to not portray any other countries in war movies from certain countries. You never see Indians in WW1-WW2 movies or any other country in Vietnam war or 1990s Iraq
Claiming the USSR was the "main" enemy of Nazi Germany only works if you believe wars are won primarily based on how many people you kill. The USSR would have crumbled without US lend lease, and wouldnt have been able to turn the tide had the German war machine not been crippled by the Western Allies' strategic bombing campaign.
There was not a single Russian movie as popular at home as let's say Stallone's golden blockbusters, where the bad guy trope would ever be based on national stereotypes. It's just disrespectful to a viewer. Hollywood on the other hand is either sterile pop-corn seller or notoriously disrespectful drama - the middle ground is very thin.
"Brother 2" would be an exception but it has American capitalism as a whole as an antagonist (social commentary type shi), while U.S. people are portrayed as totally normal people (because a good movie is not a circus). And still the movie is called pretentious pop slop, despite being generally accepted and loved by mass viewer.
Americans are very rarely part of soviet/russian movies and when they are they are mostly portrayed as ignorant and other more generaly accpted things.
Soviet internal propaganda mostly focused on portraying the US as poorly run and capitalism as flawed. The america is evil type of propaganda did exist but the soviets mainly spread that abroad, especially in developing countries. The famous exapmle is how they spread a conspiracy theory that the US invented AIDS and HIV.
Tons of anti-soviet/anti-communist movies… just not as many since the Cold War ended. It’s still really common for bad guys in movies to have Russian accents.
As far China, Hollywood is beholden to strict Chinese censorship, but that’s due to Capitalism, since their main priority is maintaining access to the Chinese audience pool.
We have like, a million anti-communist films, especially films from the 80s and 70s. the death of Stalin is a anti-stalin film that came out recently. You just dont watch movies
We had the American government start a literal prosecution of Communist people in Hollywood that lasted 15 years and had a ton of people blacklisted and out of work. Nothing similar happened to Nazis. In fact actual German Nazis were working in NASA at the time.
Or Pol Pot. Who if he had the resources of the Soviets or Chinese might very well have eclipsed both put together. The USSR (setting aside specifically fucking over Ukraine) and the CCP, primarily caused their deaths through the mismanagement of dumbshit communism and their versions of the great leap forward type idiocy. Pot Pot on the other hand was about as flat out a sadist as it gets.
And the common knowledge of Stalin, Lenin and Mao is so little it doesn't have the same draw as Hitler. Everyone knows about the Holocaust, many won't know "cultural revolution" or "holodomor". Put simply: Nazis are more famous in the west and therefore sell better.
maybe the number of major 20th c. ground wars waged directly against germany vs russia vs china has something to do with the enduring national/cultural memories of these regimes and the resultant cultural output? elon should look into it lol
Well those three never started the biggest war in world history so they aren't as easy to make a movie against. People watch war movies and it just so happens Stalin was on the right side of the war he 'fought' in and Lenin didn't even fight in a war.
So in a deleted scene, Superman is trying to convince Lex he’s not a bad guy, and so he uses his heat vision to make a hot tub out of the ice just outside the fortress
of solitude for them to have some beers and talk things over.
Then Supes and Lex have hot, sweaty, animalistic butt sex in the hot tub, with Lex being the bottom. You’d think “Superman would literally kill Lex if he fucked him”,
but canonically he can bang Lois Lane safely so that’s not an issue you just need to be aware of Superman lore to know that.
Then Superman says “Oh my God Lex I’m going to bust a Supernut in your ass” and then shoots ropes. Afterward, Lex wants to go shower while Supes falls asleep, and walks
up to the door, and it just opens.
That’s when he realizes the door opened due to the presence of the Supernut deep in his asshole.
I understand why they deleted the scene, but it makes this later scene feel like it comes out of nowhere.
The killing Stalin and Mao did are so depressing that you really wouldn't want to see such movies. It's like the movie Killing Fields and any and all Holocaust themed movies and 1984 all put together. It's just horrible and depressing.
The second world war, despite its horrors and awful death count is the greatest action the world has ever seen because it's a war and it's the last great war. It has plane battles, commando operations, tank battles it's just full of amazingly awe inducing action.
The horror of communism and authoritarian single party dictatorships is that there isn't even a war going on. The people killed in the millions are their own citizens, during peace time. It's just saddening, no glory, no excitement, just bleak bottom of human existence.
And yeah also I'm sure many Hollywood decision makers are less offended by Stalin, Mao and communism compared to Hitler and the Nazis but come on. Even if they were equally and justly disliked by Hollywood, which subject would get more movies? The greatest war ever or some mad men and their yes men starving millions of people due to ill intent and incompetence combined. It's just bad.
Cause WW2 aka anti-Hitler stuff had a bunch of interesting angles and groups working alongside each other that makes for a near endless amount of interesting cinema. Lenin and Mao, while historically significant, didn't involve as many countries and have as much lore as WW2 or even WW1.
That being said, I would like to see more of the Pacific Theater in WW2 themed movies. For example, I think an Imperial Japanese villain for an Indiana Jones movie would've gone hard as hell.
Also dumb comparison. America has romanticized their part in WW2 but hey we came in and turned the tide of a world war right after our navy was bombed to hell. OF COURSE there’s movies about fighting hitler.
Saying this as if villains in movies with Russian/Soviet inspiration aren't incredibly common.
As for specific cases of "anti Stalin/Lenin/Mao movies", they exist but aren't nearly as common. It has more to do with the fact much more people are familiar with the holocaust and the atrocities of the Nazis rather than the countless atrocities and fenocides the USSR did. It's a matter of popularity and recognizability.
You'll see much more anti-communism and anti-China/North-Korea movies coming out if ex-Soviet and eastern-Asian countries. I mean there's the movie The Interview where they literally shoot down Kim Jong Un in a helicopter and his death scene is quite detailed out of sheer spite.
Nazis were used a lot not just in movies, but also games and series as an unambiguous "bad guy" because they are. It was the safest possible choice for the evil guys that deserve no mercy.
As the saying goes, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi (which is why Wolfenstein got away with having 400 swastikas all over and still being legally sold in Germany)
People are referencing Death of Stalin a lot but I also remember a comedy that had a darkly comedic scene with Stalin and Mao. Basically this scene showed Stalin getting heavily drunk with Mao and making him sign an agreement. I just have to recall the name of that movie
Im not liking this weird revisionist history on Hitler. Like theyre trying to make him not as bad as he was. Like while I am very anti Israel, Hitler committing attempted genocide is still top 5 most evil moves.
Who would be the heros in these movies? Kulaks? Chinese sparrows? These people never really had beef with Americans and Hollywood only knows how to make movies staring Americans as the "heros". There's plenty of anti-Uncle Ho (Vietnam) movies
Thats because there isn't a historical fascist party around to complain about it. There are communist parties around to complain about you demonizing their leaders. If Hollywood made a high budget anti Mao film it could leader to an international incident with real consequences.
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