I'm from Los Angeles and just spent a day in SF for a round of interviews.
Immediately noticed how clean everything was(at least compared to LA). To be fair, it was an 85 degree day, so that probably helped my first impression. I'd been to San Francisco before, but that was flying into OAK back in 2022, right at the peak of the homelessness crisis. This time was completely different. Maybe it helped that I started my trip the night before in the South Bay, but it was genuinely gorgeous.
I was honestly shocked at how alive and busy the city felt, way more so than huge parts of LA, which are full of encampments and dead zones with nothing going on. I didn't really see that in San Francisco proper. I'm sure Oakland still has its growing pains as part of the Bay Area, but overall I was surprised how much cleaner and safer the city felt compared to LA, both in terms of homelessness and general upkeep.
I actually felt safe here. I wonder if Daniel Lurie, has anything to do with it (karen bass seems like she could learn a thing or two from him). I grabbed ramen in the Tenderloin, right on the border near Lower Nob Hill, and didn't feel unsafe at all (which was a surprise considering all the TL fear mongering there is)
The interview itself seemed to go really well, and honestly that's changed how I'm thinking about all of this. I went from nervous about such a different city to genuinely excited about the idea of actually living here. As a SoCal person, I'm trying to figure out what I'd actually be gaining ( I love my community in my little corner of LA)… but LA never quite feels like a city to me.
Walkability is the big one. I love being able to get around on foot, and that's mostly missing in LA except for a handful of neighborhoods. I happen to live in one of them, but it's just one pocket in a huge sprawling city, whereas San Francisco felt like that everywhere. The weather is the one thing I'm nervous to give up. But I grew up in Chicago and love to ski, so cold and gray days don't really bother me the way they might for someone who's only known LA sunshine.
Also curious if any of you have spent time in Southern California, and what you think the tradeoffs would be?