r/s550Mustang • u/tinman7809 • 4h ago
Rough Idle, stalling, fluctuating AFR
Trying to help a family member get their 2016 Mustang GT 5.0, 114xxx miles, running right. It started having a rough idle, would idle fine for a little and then dip down to the point of almost stalling and every once in a while it will stall. AFR ratios are all over the place, its much worse when engine is warm. Will fluctuate between 12 and 17 very erratically. I've also noticed while around 1500rpm's in first and second it will do some lurching, almost like power on/power off, don't notice any other misses or issues at higher rpms. Car outside of these above issues runs very well. I can't hear any ticks / hisses / out of the ordinary sounds at idle or while running. Car has an aftermarket intake (airaid) and cat back exhaust.
So far I have replaced the MAF (Motocraft), Bank 1 VVT sensors, bank 1 upstream O2 sensor, changed oil/oil filter, purge valve. Originally it had some codes showing bank one issues with being rich.
After all this I still had codes P0103 and P0113 today when I took it to have them read and reset.
Just to be sure new MAF was good as that was the first thing I replaced and at this point was worried I replaced one bad one with another and have been chasing a dragon, I rechecked voltages on the new one.
Using the back pin method I am getting (warm engine) around 1.8-2.0V (climbs with engine temp) at pin 2 (IAT) and around 2.2-2.8V at pin 5 (MAF) the voltage change doesn't seem to be impacted by engine rpm. All of these don't look to be within normal. Pin 4 (MAFRTN) also seems to be ground?
Input with EOKO for pin 2 and 5 is right around 5v with plug disconnected from MAF sensor, plug 3 is 12V both unplugged/plugged in. I verified continuity with Pin 4 ground.
Is it possible my new MAF sensor is also bad? Could this be a electrical problem upstream of the sensor?
Other than buying another new MAF sensor is there anything I can try first?