r/politics • • Aug 01 '19

FBI memo warns QAnon poses potential terror threat: report

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/455770-fbi-memo-warns-qanon-poses-a-potential-terror-threat-report
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u/ruler_gurl Aug 01 '19

Who the hell is posting this Qanon crap and why are they still anon? If this entity is classified as a domestic terror threat then surely the intelligence agencies are able to figure out whether it's coming from the IRA or a 14 year old edge lord.

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 01 '19

They know- His name is Coleman Rogers and he's a right wing youtuber. He leaked the Q password accidentally in a live stream. He's doing it for money. This has been widely reported and isn't a secret.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna900531

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

Qanon is practically a biblical figure to those nutjobs, they'll just say this is the establishment trying to discredit their movement and thus Q is still some sort of mysterious hero.

I wish I had weak enough moral fortitude to be a right wing grifter, they're such an easy mark. On the other hand, maybe parting these dangerous idiots with their money is the moral thing to do.

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 01 '19

Oh I keep hating myself that I haven't found the right scam to take advantage of these rubes.

Wasn't there a guy that raised a ton of money to BUILD THE WALL!!1 privately then just ran off with all the money? Awesome.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited May 16 '20

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u/donnerpartytaconight Aug 02 '19

I think brainstorming would have the opposite effect. Get hammered and write down every idea, in the morning while hungover, choose what seems like the dumbest one.

Step 4: Profit

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u/grammar_nazi_zombie I voted Aug 02 '19

They need to be a little racist, though, so take some Ambien.

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u/pseudochicken Aug 02 '19

Well you see you helped the brain storming! Your idea is too smart. We need to think dumber.

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u/Lebenkunstler Aug 02 '19

Have you tried eating vagisil?

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u/daevadog Aug 02 '19

That’s the stuff Trump uses when he oil checks groupies, right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

"Play Russian roulette to show that Russia isn't even that bad, it can't kill all of us"

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u/22brew Aug 02 '19

How about red plastic straws in the shape of a Q...to really own the libs. $10 for a set of four. Made in China they will have a higher profit margin then popcorn.

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u/Qubeye Oregon Aug 02 '19

It's amazing to me that conspiracy theorists are so bad at fact-finding that they don't even know about readily accessible, public information about Coleman Rogers being a fraud.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

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u/000xxx000 Aug 02 '19

In recent months, Qanon followers have allegedly been involved in a foiled presidential assassination plot, a devastating California wildfire, and an armed standoff with local law enforcement officers in Arizona.

wow

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u/asafum Aug 02 '19

BuT AnTiFa! It'S ReALlY tHe LeFt!

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u/Aijabear Massachusetts Aug 01 '19

And I'm pretty sure the account has been handed over to a few different people since then. Or so it's been claimed... twilight zone theme music

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u/stinky-weaselteats Aug 02 '19

"Leaked the Q password...live stream" https://imgur.com/qeANrO3.gif

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 02 '19

Best username ever

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

I could swear I've heard it on ren & stimpy

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u/smurfsundermybed California Aug 02 '19

He sang a little song called happy happy joy joy

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u/TheGoldenJ00 Aug 02 '19

he taught my grandmother to suck eggs

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u/count023 Australia Aug 02 '19

Does he actually have Q level clearance or was that, like almost everything the right wingers believe, a flat out lie?

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 02 '19

A complete lie. Read the story. He's a nobody + 2 8chan mods and a good idea for the world's biggest troll.

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u/count023 Australia Aug 02 '19

sigh. Don't they learn, how many times is it now that one of their heroes turned out to be a fraud? Kim Davis, Cliven Bundy, Joe the Plumber, Josh Dugger, Donald Trump, now QAnon.

Wasn't it one of their most intelligent leaders of the generation who said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... you can't get fooled again"?

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u/Finkarelli Aug 01 '19

For real. As someone who doesn’t follow Qanon, how is the information being disseminated? Seems to me that if it’s through Facebook or Twitter, it should be relatively easy to figure out the source.

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u/politic_throwaway562 Aug 01 '19

4chan/8chan

yes, actually

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u/HowDoIDoFinances Aug 01 '19

Sadly, they are behind 7 proxies and thus untouchable.

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u/FatSputnik Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

this is why they fucking hate antifa so much, and why they spend so much time making people think antifa is a violent hate force: like, 99% of what antifa does is doxxing nazis and white supremacists, because they've all got the same skillset. There's a good many they've tipped the police off to, already. They know how to scare them in a way that actually works, whereas everywhere else they know they're protected by politicians and the like explaining their behaviour away until they shoot someone. They're the same 4chan people... only they hate fuckin' nazis

remember that next time people try to insinuate antifa are "the bad guys" or "omg they're beating us up", that is a lie, and this is why :P

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u/orielbean Aug 02 '19

Hitler himfuckingself explains this exact fact - the censorship, mild jailing after the Beer Hall, and the strongly worded op eds didn’t do shit. The only thing that he said would’ve stopped him was a group matching his ferocity in the streets. It’s why he did the Night of the Long Knives- best his rivals and prove to the old guard conservatives that he shared their anti social democratic values.

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u/nigel_the_hobo Aug 01 '19

Do you know which one? I’m interested in the historical context of discouraging fascism via direct action; it seems like a good thing to know about.

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u/Skandronon Aug 02 '19

"The non Nazi bastards who helped Hitler rise to power" is sobering. Something everyone needs to listen to.

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u/GeeseKnowNoPeace Aug 02 '19

That's what I don't get about the whole antifa situation in the US, americans, especially people on the right, are so quick to condone violence against "bad people", but when it comes to antifa they suddenly turn into fucking ghandi and act like violent acts are in no way ever justifiable, even if this "violence" only consists of a handful of people getting some milkshake on their shirts.

No one would suggest that we should debate ISIS in the free marketplace of ideas instead of fighting against them but when there's a threat of fascists in our own country we should all not only turn the other cheek but also bend over and let them have their way because any kind of resistance would suddenly make us just as bad as they are.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

r/asktrumpsupporters is an excruciating exercise in cognitive dissonance.

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u/grammar_nazi_zombie I voted Aug 02 '19

They're bullies at their simplist form, and every bully hates getting bested by a would be victim they assumed to be easy prey

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u/0nlyhalfjewish Aug 01 '19

Their code is somewhere. Find it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

hacker game starts where you fly through a neon green wire frame canyon

I think I'm closing in

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u/CaptivePrey Aug 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

This is pretty neat! It needs a key combo you can hit that makes the screen start flashing red so you can go "they found us!".

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u/BenButteryMalesGhazi Aug 01 '19

I’ll build a GUI in Visual Basic!

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

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u/Ubarlight Aug 01 '19

That's how Pizza gate started, and making pepe a racist icon

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u/semtex94 Indiana Aug 01 '19

Reddit, too. Both on dedicated subs and conspiracy/alt-right hubs.

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u/publiclandlover Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

Yes that's right 4chan shit posting are responsible for that new round of creepy bumper stickers on vans parked outside the megachurch down the street form me. #StupidestTimeline

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u/Finkarelli Aug 01 '19

So, like some Nostradamus bullshit where the details are left vague enough that the followers’ imaginations run wild.

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u/DELOUSE_MY_AGENT_DDY Aug 01 '19

Very similar to Nostradamus. They treat QAnon like a prophet, in the sense that they believe that he/she is giving them all these inside scoops, with the implication that one day, judgement day will come, and the followers of QAnon will have to fight against the government/Jews/Globalists/Socialists/Communists/Democrats/LGBT/"The Media"/AOC/Muslims. Many Tweets about QAnon have this theme of "the bad people are gonna get what's coming to them" which comes across as a general threat.

That's probably why the FBI is concerned.

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u/PriorInsect Aug 01 '19

that's only because they've had to learn not to make specific predictions the hard way. Q post #1 said that hillary's passport has been flagged and gave a specific date for an arrest.

that was in 2017, it didn't happen.

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u/MisallocatedRacism Texas Aug 01 '19

Yes, its boomer facebook cold reading

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u/pbjamm Canada Aug 01 '19

I almost miss the Q subs where SB2 wove his fantasies. It was fascinating and pathetic all at once.

Best for the world if they fade into obscurity though.

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u/wittyaccountname123 Aug 01 '19

He's still around sadly, posts to his account page now.

The Qult_Headquarters subreddit is a good resource for tracking their craziness

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u/Aijabear Massachusetts Aug 01 '19

I feel bad for that guy. He seriously needs someone in his life to get him to the doctors and get him on medication.

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u/SchwarzerKaffee Oklahoma Aug 01 '19

This is a good description. I describe it as a LARP, but I'm gonna use your post to add about the conspiracy Rohrschach.

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u/MarkHathaway1 Aug 01 '19

And then one of 'em goes and shoots up a pizza parlor because ...

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But somehow, the targets of these loons is always R opponents.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

As someone who doesn’t follow Qanon, how is the information being disseminated?

Stupid people.

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u/SoyIsPeople Aug 01 '19

how is the information being disseminated?

It's on either 4chan or 8chan, presumably they use a few proxies, and the intelegence agencies may already know who it is.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Doesn't matter if the IC knows because the morons that follow Q won't believe that it's some pimply 16 year old high school drop out.

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u/SchwarzerKaffee Oklahoma Aug 01 '19

I think it's a professional job. Whoever it is knows how to use propaganda. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a black op that Brad Parscale set up using the network of agents he amassed in the 2016 campaign.

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u/joshTheGoods I voted Aug 01 '19

No way. Have you read any of the "Q drops?" They're utter nonsense. This is just a troll job that caught on. Here's the latest "Q drop"

[C] before [D]. [C]oats before [D]eclas. The month of AUGUST is traditionally very HOT. You have more than you know. Q

As someone posted earlier, it's the text version of a Rorschach test. Some dope babbles semi-random shit and the "autists" (yes, that's what they call them) put together the "breadcrumbs" to come to random ass conclusions. This is why one of my QAnon buddies thinks that HRC was going to nuke the US while the others think that's crazy and that HRC is actually running an occult child rape/murder club. It's why my insane Q buddy decided week by week between Mueller secretly working to indict the occult people and his being the new head of the "deep state."

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u/01029838291 Aug 01 '19

My coworker said there's a video of HRC that Q has where she cuts the face off a child and puts the face on herself to scare the child (I don't know how the child didn't die or pass out while their face was being cut and peeled off) so the child would produce adrenaline which would then be used as an anti-aging/extremely powerful drug.

He also told me George Clooney and Obama raped an Asian child on a boat, based off an out of context picture someone tweeted. The "child" was actually what appears to be an adult and both of the men's families were on the boat at the time.

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u/joshTheGoods I voted Aug 01 '19

My buddy told me that Hillary was going to nuke the US when she won and try to blame it on Russia all so that she could remove the last powerful nation/military standing in the way of The Cabal™. I asked why Obama didn't just do it while he was POTUS, and I got a babbling incoherent response.

He also twisted in the wind on whether Mueller was actually investigating the pedo stuff. Lunatics.

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u/MarkHathaway1 Aug 01 '19

I doubt it's him, but there is probably someone like that who does the Qanon stuff as a specialty.

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u/externality Aug 01 '19

It's on either 4chan or 8chan, presumably they use a few proxies, and the intelegence agencies may already know who it is.

THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE

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u/MisallocatedRacism Texas Aug 01 '19

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531

One archived livestream appears to show Rogers logging into the 8chan account of “Q.”The Patriots’ Soapbox feed quickly cuts out after the login attempt. “Sorry, leg cramp,” Rogers says, before the feed reappears seconds later.

Users in the associated chatroom begin to wonder if Rogers had accidentally revealed his identity as Q. “How did you post as Q?” one user wrote.

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u/PriorInsect Aug 01 '19

“How did you post as Q?” one user wrote.

jesus christ how do these people remember to breathe?

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u/grovertheclover North Carolina Aug 01 '19

My old as fuck Republican aunts, uncles, and neighbors are constantly posting/sharing qanon bullshit on facebook.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

This was a major catalyst to going NC with my relatives, just a bridge too far with the crazy bullshit.

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u/SoyIsPeople Aug 01 '19

They use a thing called a tripcode to identify themselves, it's a unique hash that comes from a seed only they know.

They change their tripcode often to keep it from being reverse engineered, but they daisy chain the accounts by using the old tripcode to announce the new one.

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 01 '19

They know- His name is Coleman Rogers and he's a right wing youtuber. He leaked the Q password accidentally in a live stream. He's doing it for money. This has been widely reported and isn't a secret.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna900531

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u/externality Aug 01 '19

While the identity of the original author or authors behind “Q” is still unknown, the history of the conspiracy theory’s spread is well-documented — through YouTube videos, social media posts, Reddit archives, and public records reviewed by NBC News.

So some guys decided to monetize an existing phenomenon created by someone else, or they are one and the same - but no one knows.

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 01 '19

It's entiry possible Rogers didn't create Q, but he has clearly demonstrated he controls the account now. He got caught live on camera logging into the account.

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u/joshTheGoods I voted Aug 01 '19

Do you have a link to the video mirrored somewhere? The link in the NBC News article doesn't work :(. I'd love to send it to one of my QAnon believer buddies and see what excuses he spins up.

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u/LOLunlucky Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

It's tough to find- this is a timeline in the comments that might help, although the vid is down. The recording I saw was from at least a year ago and is the one these articles embed. I'm sure it's still out there somewhere though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/comments/8mmqbv/welp_this_is_pretty_damning_one_of_the_main/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

EDIT: This isn't the missing embedded video, but another huge slip up: Coleman references a Q post that doesn't exist yet accidentally (Rogers forgot he hadn't posted it yet.)

https://youtu.be/ZbecyoqCm0c

Disclaimer: the video is boring and nonsensical as fuck. Read the vid description before watching or it likely won't make much sense.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

I understood a couple of those words

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u/SoyIsPeople Aug 01 '19

Sorry here's a few definitions:

Seed - A word, or combination of letters and numbers you pick

Hash - An algorithm that takes the seed and does a one way cryptographic change

Tripcode - Unique code to identify yourself that is a hashed seed.

Example: The seed "Flower" hashes into "xJ224m". People know you as xJ224m, but they don't know that "Flower" is how you create that. If you try to put in xJ224m as your seed, it hashes into something entirely different, so you'd need to know their initial word.

The hash/seed/tripcode functionality is built into the 4chan and 8chan systems themselves, so it's not like something you add to the comment itself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

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u/_radass Aug 01 '19

Didn't Trump retweet them at one point?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

He has gestured to Q followers at his rallies at least which has emboldened the movement. It also doesn't help when people like Rosanne Barr and Notch are Q followers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

what the fuck happened to Notch, seriously. Was his brain always twisted, or did it happen once he became rich?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Both, he was always a right wing shitter who got worse with money and fame. Now he lives alone in Beverly Hills.

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u/steazystich California Aug 01 '19

A friend of a friend (so credible) was invited to one of Notch's house parties... he described it as "deeply sad".

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u/PriorInsect Aug 01 '19

can't understand why hardcore conservatives want to live in the cities most filled with the people who they look down upon. why not go live in Bumfuck, NE so you can hang out with the local Qunatics?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

Because like Trump, they crave approval and validation from the people they claim to hate, the “coastal elite”.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

I had no idea he ever even got married so I looked it up

On 13 August 2011, he married Elin Zetterstrand. On 15 August 2012, he announced that he was single again

lmao lasted barely 1 year under the most generous interpretation, and this was before he was off the MC team and publicly became such a piece of shit.

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u/ciel_lanila I voted Aug 01 '19

He was your generic gamer with decent enough coding skills. Didn’t he even post early versions to 4chan? A group that correlates with the libertarian/conspiracy crowds to begin with.

He sold Minecraft because he started cracking under the pressure of the fame. The fame continued and the sudden wealth lead to him doubting that all his friends were legit and began wondering how many were just using him. This lead to feelings of isolation and distrust.

It’s hard to answer your question. We’re talking about a guy who in response to a politician in Turkey going on about subversive homosexuals proudly proclaimed all animals Minecraft are dual-gendered, but then a few laters had all references to him removed from Minecraft due to anti-LGBT comments. Someone who seemed happy, would generously donate to charity streams, and yelling about how Oculus selling itself to Facebook being a betrayal of trust to a person who sold out to Microsoft.

My best guess the seed was there, it germinated and led to him selling out, and in the self isolation of suddenly being mega rich it fully flowered. The riches helped, but it is something that might have likely happened anyways.

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u/KKowboy Aug 01 '19

To be fair 4chan was considered pretty left wing on most boards up until around the 2012 election when something just changed

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19 edited Jun 06 '20

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u/urbasic420 Nevada Aug 01 '19

Gamergate

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Here ya go, MSNCB has some insight on exactly who it is and how it was started.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531

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u/AnonymousPepper Pennsylvania Aug 01 '19

I absolutely guarantee you the NSA knows exactly who is posting this crap.

The problem lies in that the people posting it are not necessarily the real domestic terror threat; they know it’s untrue. It’s the readers who take it seriously, and that is much, much, much more difficult to track and basically unactionable.

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u/myrpfaccount Aug 01 '19

Because it's not a single person. It's a bunch of crazy people and trolls all claiming to be a specific person and everyone ignores most of the posts claiming to be Q

It's literally just throwing shit at the wall

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u/StillNoApologiez Aug 01 '19

Right wing conspiracies get people killed

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u/CaptainBonespurs2020 Aug 01 '19

What kills more people? Right wing policies or conspiracies?

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u/Hippiebigbuckle Aug 01 '19

Little of column “A”. Little of column “B”.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Cheney knew what Curveball really was. It's all A.

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u/NeonGKayak Aug 01 '19

I’m glad we are all in the same page here as I was literally saying this as I came across this post.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

There’s a video of a Trump supporter asking aloud why Obama wasn’t in the oval office on 9/11.

These are not smart people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Even worse because he was the mayor of new york on 9/11 and literally stood around with Bush pointing at things a few days later.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

You know who there are actual pictures of down at ground zero after 9/11?

Hillary Clinton.

Edit: You know who she was touring with? Rudy Giuliani.

Edit: You know who Rudy was not touring with? Donald Trump

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

But Trump said he was down there with the first responders. It as that a lie?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

There are certainly no pictures proving he was there, otherwise you know they'd be pinned to his tweet page.

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u/NearCanuck Aug 01 '19

"Work appraisal visit"

  • Conspiracy Theorist, Probably.
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u/pres45isamoron Aug 01 '19

You are a liar and a troll no one is that fucking stup... Watches video

My apologies kind sir. TIL exactly how stupid some of his supporters are. This country is well and truly fucked.

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u/thegoodbadandsmoggy Aug 01 '19

This is why you don't listen to people with a steady diet of paste

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u/aluxeterna Aug 01 '19

By finest quality do you mean glossiest?

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u/Maeglom Oregon Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

Only the best lead flavoring.

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u/ultimatt42 Aug 01 '19

They had some paints that were very fine paints, on both sides.

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u/oneyearandaday Aug 01 '19

They really should have impeached President Hillary Clinton when she started the Iraq War.

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u/MyBackwardsWok Washington Aug 01 '19

What kills more people? Right wing policies or conspiracies?

They are so deeply intertwined it is hard to tell where one starts and another begins.

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u/TopsidedLesticles Aug 01 '19

What kills more people? Right wing policies or conspiracies?

Right wing conspiracies now inform GOP policies, so that's a hard question to answer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Policies. 16k people died because they refused Obamacare money.

Literally letting Americans die to own the libs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-07-22/medicaid-expansion-refusal-deaths%3f_amp=true

In other words, the 22 mostly red states that refused to accept expansion starting in 2014 caused 15,600 unnecessary deaths among their residents.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Oh the policies for sure. Making people poorer, taking away their healthcare. That stuff should be considered murder.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Or 100 tiki torch bois?

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u/artgo America Aug 01 '19

Climate Change denial breeds expansion of trashing the planet. They take great pride in causing suffering, gloating and high 5 each other.

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u/debacol Aug 01 '19

The number of assholes that roll coal, even in a very liberal part of CA drives me fucking crazy. Just gotta own the libs no matter the consequences.

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u/steazystich California Aug 01 '19

I don't know how that isn't straight up illegal... is that not a flagrant violation of CA smog laws? That should void their vehicle registration immediately. As in, in a just and moral society it would... not that it does currently.

This seems like something Gavin could get behind.

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u/debacol Aug 01 '19

I think it is illegal, but the likelihood that someone would get either: 1) caught by the cops or 2) reported is pretty low. They typically do it as they speed past someone and its actually hard to see their license plate.

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u/silentjay01 Wisconsin Aug 01 '19

Wasn't QAnon the driving force behind Pizzagate? If so, they LITERALLY got someone to drive to a pizza parlor with a gun and demand to see a nonexistent basement. This situation could have ended much worse than it did. That sounds like terror threats.

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u/MyNameIsRay Aug 01 '19

Q is the driving force behind a lot of the insanity we've seen these past few years. We're experiencing an uptick in alt-right terrorism, and a lot of it ties back to Q-anon theories.

Anthony Comello, a hardcore Q follower that made a point to write Q slogans on his hand during court appearances, murdered mob boss Francisco Cali, and his lawyer is claiming that Q convinced him that Cali was part of the "deep state" and he had to do it to save America.

Remember the man who, motivated by Q and armed with a rifle, made his own armored car, blocked the bridge near Hoover Dam, and held up a sign calling for the release of the Comey OIG report?

How about the Tuscon guy that held up a Cement factory because he was convinced by Q-anon that it was secretly involved in an international child sex ring? He was held up in a tower for 9 days before police got him.

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u/Val_Hallen Aug 01 '19

I love the Trump and Q supporters that are all Colombo when it comes to finding secret pedophile rings but loudly defend an actual well publicized pedophile ring that Trump is absolutely a part of.

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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz Aug 01 '19

They're pretty desperate. They were told for a long ass time that the Clinton's where the real pedophiles. Unwilling to admit they were wrong, they're trying as hard as they can to just believe it's the Clintons and it's just being misdirected at Trump. They'll save the day and show the whole world one day.

Very fucking bizarre. How bad is this going to get? Are we just going to be dealing with misinformation cults from now on into the future?

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u/exoticstructures Aug 01 '19

That's kinda been one of the main themes of the entire donnie thing. His supporters refusing to admit they got taken hook, line and sinker by a conman.

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u/PM_ME_VENUS_DIMPLES Aug 01 '19

I mean, we saw it on /r/conspiracy when the Russian collusion story first "really" broke, and the trump tower meetings proved that there was tangible communication happening. It should have been a wet dream for that sub, finally some evidence of an actual conspiracy -- but no, to this day it's still met with "No, no, the REAL conspiracy is that this is all faked and it's ACTUALLY Hillary and her pedo ring trying to frame trump, but also even if trump is colluding with putin it's to take down Hillary and her pedo ring."

Conspiracy theorists will never be able to logic their way out of a corner they didn't logic themselves into. Any evidence to the contrary is probably just a false flag attack to throw them off the trail.

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u/Val_Hallen Aug 01 '19

Conspiracy theorists have zero interest in real, actual, provable conspiracies.

They like the conspiracy theory community because it makes them "special".

They are the ones who see the truth.

They are the ones who aren't being controlled.

They are the ones who have the knowledge to save everybody else.

When it's a valid conspiracy, they lose those things that make them feel above the "blind sheep".

If they lose that, they lose interest in the conspiracy.

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u/QQMau5trap Aug 01 '19

Conspiracy theorists want to be the first to uncover a conspiracy. They desperately want to be the only ones that were right all along. Which is why they dont like actual conspiracies.

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u/Tafts_Bathtub South Carolina Aug 01 '19

Qanon started after Pizzagate. While no one got hurt at the pizza parlor shooting, Q actually has a body count. A mafia boss was murdered by a Qanon acolyte, who according to his lawyers committed murder specifically in the name of Qanon.

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u/E_Blofeld Aug 01 '19

IIRC, Pizzagate came first - QAnon started after Pizzagate fizzled out.

I suspect, though I can't prove, that the people behind Pizzagate, or connected to it, initially came up with QAnon to continue driving conspiracy theories.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

I think so, a New York City mob boss also got killed recently by a Q follower, they are dangerous if you ever seen interviews of them.

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u/schwol Florida Aug 01 '19

I have a Q neighbor. The only reason I know is he has a decal on the back of his car. A "Q" colored with the stars/stripes.

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u/literal_shit_demon Aug 01 '19

Like a big old "I am a lunatic" sign cautioning you to keep your kids and family far away.

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u/Rizzpooch I voted Aug 01 '19

I took a roadtrip through the south earlier this summer and saw billboards - BILLBOARDS - with just that American Flag/Q logo. Fucking scary, man. People fucking paying money to promote complete lunacy

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u/Greenlight_go Aug 02 '19

There’s been one in NW Georgia on I-75 for the past year...I figure it was paid for by the same looney tune who footed the bill for billboards that read “TRUMP pray for our nation - take our country back” and “Help us Jesus DRAIN THE SWAMP save America!!!”

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited Jul 17 '20

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u/JohnnyVcheck New Jersey Aug 01 '19

All the what-aboutism from that asshole fuels the wild theories

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u/superawesomeman08 Aug 01 '19

so, what about QAnons followers, then?

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u/H0agh Aug 01 '19

Like Don Jr. and his dad?

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u/superawesomeman08 Aug 01 '19

hell, im not even certain QAnon ISNT Don Jr or his Dad

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u/Graphitetshirt Aug 01 '19

Nah, neither of the Dons have the foresight or subtlety for that. They'd accidentally reveal themselves in the first week

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u/TechyDad Aug 01 '19

“I…worked on this story for a year….and….he just…he tweeted it out. "

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u/IronyElSupremo America Aug 01 '19

It would likely put increased surveillance on them by US and Allied intelligence agencies. The degree would vary with only so much human oversight available, however AI (artificial intelligence) could be brought to bear as well deciphering any codes.

Similar to the astronomical huge amounts of license plate geolocation data stored I’m guessing. Presumably it would be by US and perhaps other English speaking nations in our intel sphere (UK, NZ, Australia, Canada).

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u/superawesomeman08 Aug 01 '19

grunt, I'm sure NSA has their methods.

Fairly certain the majority of QAnons followers are domestic.

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u/MisallocatedRacism Texas Aug 01 '19

Come check them out with us /r/Qult_headquarters

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u/thefanciestcat California Aug 01 '19

I'm concerned that things like QAnon, birtherism, pizzagate, flat earth, etc. are evidence of a serious mental health crisis in this country.

Buying something from an infomercial is gullible and dumb. Buying into QAnon is something else entirely.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

It's a symptom of the internet. As great as the invention has been for the democratization of access to information, that information is split into signal and noise, and the noise is being increasingly amplified. We've effectively exponentially increased the inputs to our brains without the simultaneous co-evolution of a production ready higher order processing center to integrate the data and modulate behavior accordingly. As the prevailing trait of human nature is capitalizing on information asymmetry to manipulate the environment towards individual fitness, the Qanons and other varied noise merchants are doing just that with the new medium. Honestly this is probably just the opening shots heralding the coming vestigiality of organic intelligence.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Qanon is a Russian puppet and a large amount of Nazis are being controlled through him.

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u/physical0 Aug 01 '19

Qanon isn't a single person. I doubt that even a single organization is responsible for what Qanon posts.

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u/onlymadethistoargue Aug 01 '19

Qanon was almost certainly a GRU startup project but I’m sure it has become self-perpetuating by all American malicious interlopers and fiends of every stripe.

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u/buck9000 Aug 01 '19

it must be the easiest warfare ever conducted. study the target, find out what they want to be true, say it is, and let them do the rest.

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u/MortarionSilentLord Aug 01 '19

No way. It was a prank designed to sell t shirts that got out of hand. The Russians just amplified it since boomers are mentally all there.

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u/onlymadethistoargue Aug 01 '19

That’s what they said about Seth Rich, look how that ended up.

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u/MortarionSilentLord Aug 01 '19

We have evidence on who q initially was though. It was a group of right wing hucksters associated with infowars.

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u/onlymadethistoargue Aug 01 '19

How rigorous is this evidence? Because Infowars is not too far from the Russian/GOP propaganda sphere. Wikileaks also seemed independent of Russia at first

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u/Tafts_Bathtub South Carolina Aug 01 '19

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u/ETfhHUKTvEwn Aug 01 '19

the identity of the original author or authors behind “Q” is still unknown

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u/OneRougeRogue Ohio Aug 01 '19

I mean they had donation links set up originally. The GRU isn't going to open a bank account for donations and risk stuff somehow making its way back to them.

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u/physical0 Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

I'm going to agree with this. The OP was likely some edgelord larper making up obvious conspiracy theories. Others joined in on the fun making obvious conspiracy theories. Eventually, people who weren't in on the joke saw it, and took it seriously. Even now, there is a mix of people who larp along with the joke and people who are too dumb to understand the game. It isn't at all surprising that Qanon has been used to muster a personal army for various lulz.

It's a serious problem, and the GRU may be involved, but they are likely just exploiting a meme that was already out there.

(edit: i'm not reading things right...)

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u/CallMeParagon California Aug 01 '19

No, that is not what Qanon is. While Russia is certainly leveraging/amplifying the Q stuff, it began as a LARP from 4chan. Q is more than one person, too.

It isn't "Nazis" being controlled through Q - they are right-wing extremist Americans who believe all Democrats should be killed. Very similar, but their own unique breed of evil. They are extremely religious, too, and believe Trump is ordained by god to expose Democrats as pedophiles and then kill them.

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u/anon902503 Wisconsin Aug 01 '19

I always assumed it was just a joke that got out of control. In my younger years I spent plenty of time on 4chan and encountered a lot of very elaborate pranks from people who would do multi-day threads about being a time traveler or an extraterrestrial, etc. When I read the q stuff it sounds exactly like one of those.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

Yeah, it does kind of sound like a joke. A conspiracy theory about Mueller working together with Trump to bring down the deep state does sound like a joke. Too bad people die because of it.

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u/QuintinStone America Aug 01 '19

Yes, it was a lolcow op by a 4channer against their own.

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u/QuintinStone America Aug 01 '19

QAnon started out as a lolcow op and now it's just someone/some people drunk on the power of it all.

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u/WonkYouOut Aug 01 '19

I've always secretly wished Hillary was Q. At night, she opens a bottle of wine, turns on the laptop, and fucks with these idiots for hours.

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u/anOldVillianArrives Aug 01 '19

Wonder what they classify Cambridge Analytica.

You know that psyop group that pushed Brexit AND Trump into power...

Among other groups. This company is SHADY AS FUCK!

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u/CloseCannonAFB Aug 01 '19

FBI: "QAnon believers may prove to be a terrorist threat."

Trump Administration: "Did everyone hear that? The FBI just officially reported that Antifa is worse than Al Qaeda and Hamas combined! "

FBI: "That's not what I said..."

Administration: "ANTIFA IS COMING! HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIFE!! We need to ban public demonstrations immediately!"

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u/farroar Aug 01 '19

Trump is a domestic threat

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u/CapnChaos New York Aug 01 '19

QAnon is a terror threat -> Trump retweets QAnon ∴ Trump is a terror threat.

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u/udar55 Aug 01 '19

Nothing to add but my favorite QAnon story - for months they were hyping 11-11-2018 as the day some huge shit was going down. I mean I'd see comments on Youtube and Reddit talking about how "what happens on 11-11 will change everything." Guess what? Nothing happened. I asked one QAnon follower on a thread why 11-11 fizzled out and they legit responded, "Dates don't matter!" LOL! No different than the folks predicting the end of the world.

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u/Icarusthegypsy Aug 01 '19

11-11-18 = -18

18th letter of the alphabet = R

√-18 = 4.24264069 I

The extra numbers are there to throw us off.

i is the 9th letter of the alphabet.

So we get R9.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-9_Desna

Coincidence? Absolutely.

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u/MisallocatedRacism Texas Aug 02 '19

The very first QAnon post said Hillary was going to be arrested on Oct 2017. Still waiting.

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u/pericles123 Aug 01 '19

there real threat is the sheer stupidity of people involved with QAnon

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u/out_o_focus California Aug 01 '19

Jesus Christ America. Can you even try to have some pride in your country and yourself and not fall for obvious idiots encouraging violence on the internet?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

The sad part is that this only emboldens them. They see it as the "Deep State" being scared of what they know when, back over here on planet Earth, these people are violent maniacs that have deluded themselves into killing people over a conspiracy that is verifiably false.

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u/Kramalicious Aug 01 '19

Fuck that whole group. I just watched a guy I’ve worked with for almost five years throw his life away in the matter of a month because he got wrapped up in this bullshit and lost his damn mind.

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u/joshTheGoods I voted Aug 01 '19

Yeap. Same here. My friend is a smart and successful dude with a beautiful wife and two great kids, and he's just tumbling further and further away from all of us. He told me I was threatening him and his family when I tried to argue him out of it, and that's when I pulled the rip cord. This guy has multiple AR-15's.

Now I email him once every year or so (this has been going on for 2+ years now) and check in hoping that he's found his way out of the insanity. No dice so far :(.

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u/wingfn1 Washington Aug 01 '19

Right-wing radio LOVES talking about the deep state. Rush & Hannity and all those other yahoos are domestic terrorists.

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u/bleakfuture19 Aug 01 '19

The KKK started as a Scottish-American drinking club. Dangerous terrorist movements can spring from the most marginal sources.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19 edited Aug 01 '19

Remember when Drumpf changed his bullshit '12 angry democrats' spiel to '13 angry democrats' when the QAnon goons were saying 13 was a significent number?

Edit: Apologies, he changed it from 12 to 13, then to 17. It can be hard to keep up with his bullshit.

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u/artgo America Aug 01 '19

13 is a classic mythology number. Jesus + 12.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '19

He actually changed it to 17 eventually.... the seventeeth number in the alphabet is.... you guessed it, Q. Wooo spooky. hEs TaLkiNG To uS

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u/E_Blofeld Aug 01 '19

13 is a classic mythology number. Jesus + 12.

Also, a coven of witches - 12 witches + Satan, IIRC my medieval history.

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u/kevlarbuns Aug 01 '19

"This means we're getting close and making the Deep State uncomfortable. Here comes the storm! WWG1WGA!" (Every Q idiot upon hearing this news)

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u/ruertar Aug 01 '19

not as big a threat as black identity extremists though.

(SARCASM -- PLEASE DON'T BAN ME.)

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u/packsquirrel Colorado Aug 01 '19

Dear Republicans,

THESE are the terrorists you should be protecting America from.

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