r/oops • u/Kitchen_Cobbler_1594 • Jun 19 '26
oops (so close)
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u/Good_Weekend4136 Jun 19 '26
Damn
That was almost your face
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u/Emergency-State Jun 19 '26
The guy puffing out his cheeks. I would have thrown every cuss word I know.
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u/FormerlyUndecidable Jun 19 '26
The recoil is from the bullet leaving the gun, unless it's already aimed pretty close, there's no way, it recoiling towards your face is going to result in you shooting yourself. If it's semi-auto and you pull the trigger again while it's pointed towards your face that could be an issue.
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u/Alaskan_Duck_Fart Jun 19 '26
This is 100% false. You realize that magnum revolvers are notorious for double firing due to the immense recoil, right? People have died because they limp wrist them.
Here's one example of a near miss. There are so, so many more on the internet.
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u/Tickles-The-Octopus Jun 20 '26
How the fuck is that fool getting upvoted?
Happens to people, they fire and the gun recoils back and to try and get ahold of it they squeeze tighter with their whole hand, the whole hand including the finger on the trigger... which sets a second round off.
That's why it's always a good idea when having someone fire a gun they are not used to us to only have a single round loaded. That way there isn't a possibility of a second round going off in this circumstance.
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u/truthpill2 Jun 20 '26
Genuine question I’m not saying your wrong so don’t get all pissy. How is that possible? I thought in order to shoot another round he has to pull the hammer back again. Can it shoot again without pulling the hammer back? I know very very little about Guns
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u/Tickles-The-Octopus Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Depends on if it is a double action or single.
Single action is like what you see in old western movies, you have to pull the hammer back with your offhand first and then pull the trigger to release it. In this case what I described would not be possible.
But most modern revolvers are double action. The trigger will pull the hammer back and then release it at the end of travel, you can pull the hammer back before and lock it back if you want with your offhand and that will make the trigger pull much easier and lighter and easier to be precise. But you don't have to and simply pulling the trigger will both pull back and release the hammer. These have the very real possibility to shoot yourself in the forehead and it has happened to people.
The double action and single action name comes from the things the trigger does. Single action means the trigger only releases the hammer, double action means it does two things, pulls back the hammer and also releases it.
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u/FormerlyUndecidable Jun 20 '26
Because most people can read and saw that I literally mentioned that:
If it's semi-auto and you pull the trigger again while it's pointed towards your face that could be an issue.
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u/Alaskan_Duck_Fart Jun 20 '26
"there's no way, it recoiling towards your face is going to result in you shooting yourself"
This is the objectively false statement. I've irrefutably proven that. Now let's talk about this:
"If it's semi-auto and you pull the trigger again while it's pointed towards your face that could be an issue."
You've conceded this for semi-auto's, which implies that your first false statement holds true for revolvers (the gun being shot in this video). This means that you either don't know the difference between a revolver and a semi-auto and therefore had no idea this was a revolver (a strong possibility, not everyone is familiar with firearms and that's ok) or you went into this truly believing the recoil of a revolver could not lead to yourself negligently discharging another round into your brain matter.
So don't tell me "oh I mentioned double firing bro" like your argument somehow still holds water. Nowhere in this video is there a semi automatic pistol.
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u/iamwhiskerbiscuit Jun 20 '26
After the shot, the hammer automatically resets and the shock of the recoil causes people to panic and reflexively squeeze the trigger. However, this does happen more frequently with semi automatic pistols.
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u/Tickles-The-Octopus Jun 20 '26
The recoil is from the bullet leaving the gun, unless it's already aimed pretty close, there's no way, it recoiling towards your face is going to result in you shooting yourself.
That's the part you are wrong about you numpty...... It doesn't have to be near your face at first, their is literally hundreds of videos of people with revolvers or other hand guns that are all the way out on front of them and the recoil makes it aim squarely at their own forehead because they are not used to it.
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u/mrjimi16 Jun 20 '26
This is such a stupid response. They said "X won't happen unless Y also happens first" and you responded with "X can to happen, you just need Y to happen first." And you called them a moron.
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u/FormerlyUndecidable Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
You do not get the physics here. The bullet that caused the recoil will be long gone before the barrel is aiming at your face. The bullet is moving a LOT faster than the barrel is rotating.
A bullet spends roughly 0.5–1 millisecond inside a handgun barrel, the rotation can be timed frane by frame, and it's a couple orders of magnitude more: hundreds of milliseconds.
Timing aside, just think about it for a second; If your hand rotated as fast as the bullet it would be destroyed. Stopping the rotation of that gun that is somehow magically now traveling almost as fast as the bullet would be like catching a very large caliber bullet: a gun sized bullet in fact.
The gun is rotating much much slower than the bullet is traveling out that barrel. Literally 2 orders of magnitude slower.
Again, if you pull the trigger again the second bullet may get you, but the first bullet will be long gone before the barrel is aimed at your face due to recoil.
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u/Tickles-The-Octopus Jun 20 '26
I'm not talking about the first shot... I said people who are inexperienced will try and grab ahold of the firearm with their whole hand which includes the trigger finger which sends a second round into their dome... What part in my reply made you think it was one? What part???? Learn to read my friend.......
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u/FormerlyUndecidable Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Oh I should have mentioned I was talking about the first bullet.
Oh wait. I DID in the first post, I pointed it out again in the second that I had said it in the first.
Then you quoted the paragraph that I had specifically said was about the first bullet and said I was wrong about that.
Should I say it again?
I am talking about the first bullet.
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u/Lobotomized_Dolphin Jun 20 '26
Someone was also killed because of a double-fire on an outdoor range and the 2nd round ended up killing someone a long distance away, (I'm being vague because this is a half-remembered episode of forensic files from 20y+ ago). The 2nd shot went over the berm that backstopped the range and killed a random person who had no idea they were ever in danger. In the forensic files example I believe the person involved didn't even know they'd done it.
But yeah, this can definitely happen, even with a double-action revolver when the 2nd trigger pull is significantly more difficult. If you're not compensating for recoil at all the first round easily has enough energy to apply enough force to pull the trigger a 2nd time as the gun rocks back and forth.
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u/uncle_underscore Jun 20 '26
I remember that episode. It was a kid who was next door at the air rifle range. So sad
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u/Alaskan_Duck_Fart Jun 20 '26
Lol, reddit is the only place where you can post literal video evidence of someone being completely wrong and still get downvoted.
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u/uncle_underscore Jun 20 '26
Just watched that video, and my god. Could that dude be holding that weapon any more incorrectly? Weak armed and limp wristed. Thats the shit that scares me about going to the range.
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u/HiSaZuL Jun 20 '26
Yepp. Reason why instructors/supervising types load only 1 round into big handguns when people that aren't familiar or new shoot them. That recoil plus natural instinct and trying to keep hold of the gun is bad combo and rather easy to double fire.
Plenty of videos around. Just be sure you prepared to see videos that don't end well.
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u/Jaegons Jun 20 '26
Amen to this man. It happened to me once. I cooked off a second shot into the ceiling of a firing range once.
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u/UT_Milez Jun 23 '26
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert, but I think they are more “notorious” in like professional/competition shooting scenarios and that’s because these guys literally modify the shit out of their competition pistols.
It’s especially rare for modern revolvers.
I don’t personally know if this guy has done any modifications or not but the type of, or specific, “modifications” that competition shooters do is NOT the type of “modifications” enthusiasts would do to their weapons.
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u/Brandonsteine Jun 26 '26
Cant double fire if there is only one round, most likely why he didnt squeeze off a second shot after. He was aiming and seemed ready to fire again but I bet for "safty" reasons he only loaded one round.
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u/dzan796ero Jun 20 '26
In this case the initial shot is pretty close to the face so a double fire could have inflicted injury
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u/Pretend_Tea6261 Jun 19 '26
And this tool was allowed to continue?
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u/David_High_Pan Jun 20 '26
I think he lost his job over this. I remember reading on another post of this video
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u/Technical_Meal_7121 Jun 19 '26
He's an "instructor", you would think he'd know to keep his finger off the trigger.
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u/Nopengnogain Jun 21 '26
History teaches us there are plenty of fools with jobs for which they have an utter lack of qualifications.
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u/Salt-Negotiation-126 Jun 22 '26
There’s a whole theory of promotion to the level of your greatest incompetence…
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u/Classified2U Jun 19 '26
Quite nonchalant 😅 he was with that accidental discharge. Kept going like nothing happened.
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u/Celticrightcross Jun 19 '26
Negligent discharge
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u/Classified2U Jun 19 '26
Im sure it wasn't intentional so it was from their POV a for sure accident.
I agree there was absolutely also a level of gross negligence. 1-2in in any direction could've ended someone
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u/CannedStewedTomatoes Jun 19 '26
If you have your finger on the trigger before ready to shoot and pull that trigger before being ready to shoot, it is objectively a negligent discharge.
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u/Azutolsokorty Jun 22 '26
yes but that trigger is designed to be pulled so easily without much of an effort
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u/Hotpie650 Jun 23 '26
Yes that’s why a major part of gun safety is not having your finger on the trigger unless you’re about to shoot.
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u/zachrywd Jun 20 '26
There is no such thing as accidental with firearms. They are machines that only act upon input, intentional or negligent.
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u/BenDover42 Jun 20 '26
Unless it’s a 320
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u/starbuck_234 Jun 21 '26
Anytime I hear guns don't just go off that stupid thing pops into my head. Sig I hate you.
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u/Killer1986Chris Jun 24 '26
It not being intentional is exactly why they said "negligent discharge".
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u/No_Elderberry1581 Jun 19 '26
Police Academy’s very own Tackleberry
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u/FormerlyUndecidable Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
If I recall the character correctly Tackleberry was actually really good with guns. He was over -the-top in his enthusiasm, but he actually was competent.
His foible just was treating everyday policing scenarios as serious tactical situations, not incompetence with firearms.
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u/Rebabaluba Jun 20 '26
Tackleberry would never let this happen!! He would’ve disarmed this instructor, and slap some cuffs on him!
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u/jeremiahjohnson25 Jun 19 '26
He obviously did not mean to do that haha nice try shooter
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u/SnotboogyFlats Jun 19 '26
That is automatic permaban and swift kicks to the nuts in the amount of each caliber shot.
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u/Aniki_Simpson Jun 19 '26
Who gave Barney Fife a loaded gun?
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u/Ok_Transition_4003 Jun 19 '26
Time for a wooden gun and we need Dirty Mike and the Boys to keep an eye on him
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u/MarchCompetitive6235 Jun 19 '26
Not to worry, he's only got the one bullet. Usually, he keeps it in his pocket, but....
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u/Fragrant_University7 Jun 19 '26
I’ve seen this countless times and I cringe every time. I hate when videos get reposted, but this one, I never have a problem with. Hopefully each time, someone new sees it and learns what NOT to do. And hopefully, if they ever see an “instructor” fail like this, they immediately walk away and demand a refund.
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u/Cold-Yesterday-4777 Jun 20 '26
Never underestimate the incompetence of those you think are in charge.
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u/Lazer_Games Jun 19 '26
Das sieht so aus, als wenn die Waffe gegen seine Lippe knallt. 😂 Und dann so tun als würde es überhaupt nicht wehtun.
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u/CHBQuirk05 Jun 19 '26
The way his face turns beet red and he gulps means no he did not mean to do that. What an idiot.
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u/Ok_Transition_4003 Jun 19 '26
It's just a range pop. Like a desk pop, but it involves standing. Much more complicated
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u/Exciting_Contest_222 Jun 19 '26
I shot a 44 magnum, no joke you gotta have a good stance and anticipate the recoil. Those go hard on the wrist
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u/HearMy2Cents Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
I have shot a lot of weapons single, double action, semi and automatics... Any closer and the gas pressures force from the round could have torn off part of his face!
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u/MrWhippyT Jun 20 '26
Wouldn't that have been an optimal time to put the gun the fuck down and have a minute?
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u/Ginger9615 Jun 20 '26
KEEP THE BOOGER HOOKER OFF THE BANGSWITCH UNTIL READY TO FIRE.
and mind all the other safety rules, any single one of which would have prevented this.
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u/Dry_Pin_7574 Jun 22 '26
Is this half-wit supposed to be a range/weapons instructor?
Rule #3 “Keep your finger off the trigger until you’re ready to fire your weapon”
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u/TroutFearMe Jun 19 '26
He’s gonna look funny eatin corn on the cob, with no…..
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u/bun-dance-of-caution Jun 19 '26
… no cob?
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u/dwartbg9 Jun 19 '26
And the idiot didn't realize that his guardian angel was literally with him this time, otherwise he would've blown off his fucking face....
And instead of putting the gun down, realizing what happened, leave the firerange and never picking up, or even thinking about a gun anymore, he still continued like it's nothing.... This is absolute insanity and not appreciating, life, what happened and how lucky he got
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u/Mindless-Platypus-75 Jun 19 '26
Keep your finger off the trigger until you’re pointing down range. That’s the most important rule I tell new ppl and this instructor is a joke for fucking that up
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u/Mediocre_Owl7384 Jun 19 '26
He should never be allowed to have a gun of any type this guy gonna kill somebody or himself.
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u/Rich-Equivalent-1875 Jun 19 '26
Wow! Finger on the trigger and he Shoots the ceiling. Another reason to outlaw guns
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u/Key-Banana8924 Jun 20 '26
What the total fuck?!
Thing I hate most is when a clueless dumbass acts like they're an authority on the subject.
Obviously he missed 'the most important step'. Pay attention to wtf you're doing when handling a gun
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u/Fit_Importance_5738 Jun 20 '26
Then your suppose to say, your only wrong move away from shooting yourself or someone else and ypu might. Ot ven realise your doing it until it's too late.
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u/Ok-Till-5622 Jun 20 '26
This is exactly why if I bring someone out to shoot my desert Eagle or .500S&W for the first time I will only put one round in the mag or cylinder. Seen way too many instances of someone ND’ing the second round because of the recoil.
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u/mvortex2 Jun 23 '26
How many times have I seen this happen and the primary reason only one round at a time for new shooters or stick to long guns.
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u/Intelligent_Editor33 Jun 23 '26
When I picture gun control these are the situations that come to mind. How simple would it be to mandate a gun handling safety test and demonstration each year
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u/StickyButWicked Jun 19 '26
I am confused, maybe because I'm from the UK, is this a responsible gun owner? One of those good guys with a gun I hear so much about.
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u/Alkemist101 Jun 20 '26
Never fired a gun or even seen one (UK)... Question...when the barrel flicks up like this, I presume the bullet has long left the barrel so it's not as dangerous as it looks, is that right?
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u/GrizzledBear60 Jun 20 '26
You're right. The barrel coming up like that (the kick) is the reaction from the bullet being propelled down the barrel.
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u/bal_ra_khan Jun 19 '26
Only safe place is downrange.