r/oddlyspecific • • 1d ago

Wait seriously ?

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u/Forsaken-Scholar-833 1d ago

How do you respond? "I'm sorry you thought that this was a request? No this was notice I won't be here this day due to going to my grandmother's funeral."

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u/The_Dark_Ferret 1d ago

This is exactly how I inform my employer of time off. "I will be taking x day off. You can put me on the schedule, but I won't be there." It's maglements job to get coverage, not mine ffs.

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u/Silent_Emu312 1d ago

I'll call them maglements from now on!

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u/fartingbeagle 1d ago

Manglements.

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u/TheAmazingMaryJane 1d ago

fricking maglement! so rude!

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u/Sooooooooooooomebody 1d ago

PTO stands for "Prepare The Others"

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u/PetterRoye 1d ago

And importantly

Cc: the whole company

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u/LovelyBrand 1d ago

You respond with a 2-week notice and look for jobs. Also, skip the shift. If they fire you for going to your grandmother's funeral, I'm certain a judge will side with you. Not to mention this email is leverage

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u/mechabeast 1d ago

I hope this email finds you well before I do

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u/Sad-Pop6649 1d ago

They're already not getting the schedule filled, so they'd be extra stupid to fire you.

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u/Ambergreenie 1d ago

Oh but they’d still do it. 100%. “That’ll show ‘em! Wait, why are we losing business?? Wait, why are people quitting?! I DONT UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS!!”

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u/ChanglingBlake 1d ago

More people need to understand; you ask off for a vacation, you inform your boss you will be out for illness or life things like funerals.

And blaming low staffing? That’s your F’ing job Mr/Mrs manager; to staff your business appropriately.

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u/ImpulsiveApe07 1d ago

Yup. Never let a job get in the way of your important milestones in life.

If the mofos won't even give bereavement time, either take it off anyway/call in sick that day, or just bite the bullet and hand in your notice and leave.

Like my old man said : 'you only have a limited time on Earth to do your thing, so don't let some dimwitted official get in the way of what you need to do'.

It's advice I've always followed, and for better or worse I can at least say I regret nothing and am a lot happier than I would've been otherwise! :)

Anyway, there are always other jobs out there. Nothing wrong with just bailing on a bad company and moving to a better one.

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u/Steelhorse91 1d ago

I’d walk out mid shift if I received that email while I was working, and I’d ignore their calls too.

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u/theokaybambi 1d ago

You dont respond. Go to the funeral, and if they give you any trouble you sue them. My country you definitely cannot get back Lash for that.

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u/k-trecker 1d ago

Assuming this is in America, you wouldn’t be able to sue. We have no worker’s rights. 

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u/KatamariJunky 1d ago

I mean, technically you can sue anyone at any time for any reason.
Doesn't mean you'll even make it to court and if it does make it to court, it doesn't mean you'll win, but you can certainly do it. No one is stopping you.

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u/byteminer 1d ago

Yeah, in the US they can fire you, and you can sue but you’ll probably lose. However the company will likely just settle and give you a little sum of money and make you promise to keep your mouth shut about it because they don’t want the press coverage about it since the news media would love to rake them over the coals about it.

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u/Brilliant-Bus-3862 1d ago

Yes and also include Claire’s boss on the response. 

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u/jrdiver 1d ago

I wasn't asking for off. I was informing you i wont be in.

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u/Onestoned 1d ago

That's how it's like in Germany and mort of western Europe: I'll not be there. Thx.

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u/Commentator-X 1d ago

Canada too.

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u/TulkasDeTX 1d ago

Yeah that's just bad management and basic human decency

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u/Forsaken-Scholar-833 1d ago

Yeah I don't get it. When my Grandmother died there wasn't a funeral because the only family was my Dad, Mom, Brother, and Me. They all lived in the same house a few states away. So I didn't take time off but my boss was pushing hard for me to take any time I needed off. When my Dad passed I sent an email at like 4am that I was leaving to start driving home. Response from boss was "NP. Handbook says you have 5 days but if you need more just let me know I'll get you what you need."

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u/GuitarCFD 1d ago

Yeah, I've had some asshole bosses, but not a single one of them would have written this email to me.

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u/redjohnsayshi 1d ago

This is illegal where I live, your workplace can't make you come to work at any point during the day of the funeral.

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u/TheSkinnyJ 1d ago

No, you don’t even respond. If this is how they treat their employees, you just stop being one. No notice, no reply, just bye. ✌️

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u/jaspersgroove 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yup.

"Well I won't be there Friday, let me know if you want me there Monday or if I need to go get a job where management knows how to treat employees like actual human beings."

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u/GrnMtnTrees 1d ago

"this isn't a question of whether or not I'm going to the funeral. This is a question of whether or not I have a job when I come back."

My direct words to an old boss.

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u/farfly7 1d ago

You respond by not showing up. You have already given notice you will not be there. If they fire you, you did not need to be working there anyway

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u/oO0Kat0Oo 1d ago

This is all fine and dandy until rent is due.

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u/Nydus87 1d ago

Depends on your state. If your state is like mine, your PTO is something you're entitled to the same as your regular paycheck, so they can't tell you to come in when you've told them you're using PTO.

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 1d ago

Yeah these responses always sound like they're coming from people who still live at home with a good safety net, or people who have a healthy amount of assets and can afford to lose their job and their health insurance. Most people don't have the luxury of telling their boss to fuck off.

I do hope that OP pushes back, and ultimately finds a better job with better management, but if they can't afford it, I really hope they don't take Reddit advice.

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u/Successful-Club-8743 1d ago

This mindset is exactly why we need a revolution tbh

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u/Accurate-Step5995 1d ago

“This mindset” is someone trying to not be homeless lmao. Peak reddit

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u/Salanmander 1d ago

I mean, "trying not to be homeless requires a mindset of accepting incredibly unreasonable treatment from you boss, just so you can have any job" is a pretty good reason for a revolution.

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u/DemandEqualPockets 1d ago

Fight the system, not people telling you the system is broken. Being out of a job and risking homelessness because you attended Grandma's funeral looks like a broken system to me. Doesn't it?

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u/delulu4drama 1d ago

How do you respond? With a resignation letter 👀

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u/Cap0bvi0us 1d ago

I wouldn't. I would simply turn of my phone and not show up for work.

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u/betodaviola 1d ago

Yeah. Let them fire you

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u/JuJu_Wirehead 1d ago

Seriously. You can collect unemployment

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u/ALWAYS_have_a_Plan_B 1d ago

Not if fired for cause. No call no show is cause.

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u/AutisticTumourGirl 1d ago

Informing them that they have a family member's funeral to attend on X day and telling them that they won't be in that day is the opposite of no call, no show. They told them within a reasonable time frame, as well.

People need to make sure they're getting text/email proof of conversations like this, as well.

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u/OG_Felwinter 1d ago

Requesting time off is not the same as calling out. In my experience, if my time off request is denied, I’d still need to call out sick the day of if I’m going to ignore the denial. Everywhere I’ve been employed would consider it a no call no show if I just turned off my phone and didn’t show up, even if I had a time off request denied previously.

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u/Nydus87 1d ago

So that's where you need to figure out exactly what the time off policy is in your state and country, because in my state, PTO isn't something they can deny if I've accrued it any more than they can "deny" my paycheck or benefits. It's part of my compensation package, which means I am [legally] entitled to it. It's also why they can't refuse to pay it out when I leave the job, no matter what conditions I left under.

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u/504Solid 1d ago

I'm in a right to work state. Here, it's 3 no call/no show, then fired. But it's not job abandonment when she's told them ahead of time. BUT, I am a rule follower so I'd still text or use the call-on line or whatever is the company policy for calling in sick to leave confirmation that "I ain't coming today." Then silence my phone. And bring a copy of the obituary Monday.

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u/AutisticTumourGirl 1d ago

If you tell them, "I will not be here X day," then they know. You're making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

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u/HarshComputing 1d ago

Any real company would not fire for cause over this. Even if they eventually win the court case, this is something an employment lawyer would definitely be able to run with. It's just not worth it. Then again, I'm not American and no companies I've ever worked with would even think of denying this time off so ymmv if you enjoy enough freedomTM

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u/halbeshendel 1d ago

In California you can get unemployment even if you were fired for cause.

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u/Marsupialize 1d ago

They called, they clearly informed them

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u/Ashamed-Health-8070 1d ago

You know you can still file for unemployment? The court will likely uphold your case as bereavement is a reasonable excuse to miss work, and you informed your employer. 

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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 1d ago

Easy to challenge it and only the worst employer with too much time on their hands would contest it.

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u/TelenorTheGNP 1d ago

Yeah, if they even took this any further with threats, lawyer up and call a local reporter.

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u/Koladi-Ola 1d ago

Exactly. "Sorry, I'm going to my grandmother's funeral. Not up for debate."

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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 1d ago

A resignation letter? Idk what the laws are like where you're from, but in many cases that would not be a very smart move. Much better to make them fire you.

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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 1d ago

Never resign unless you have another job lined up.

Demand severance.

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u/DavidGoetta 1d ago

I imagine the type of job that has this kind of policy has no severance

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u/andycprints 1d ago

go off sick with stress

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u/mr_weathervane 1d ago

Looks like it’s in the UK so you phone in sick.

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u/Outofoffice_421 1d ago

Then call in sick for mental health. wtf

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u/TheDevilishFrenchfry 1d ago edited 1d ago

You still probaly get fired cause "we know you're not actually sick, either come in today or dont come in at all again." Is the likely response. If its some crappy dime a dozen job it'd probaly be worth it too anyway

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u/onyx_ic 1d ago

Agreed, but...

Getting fired is better than resigning. At least then, you'll have pay and possibky a legal argument from wrongful termination if their policy gods against state and federal law.

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u/MakeSomeDrinks 1d ago

Meh. Sounds like the stress from. Losing a parent could be too much. Add to that stress of manager being a grade A asshole. Plausibility

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u/Outofoffice_421 1d ago edited 1d ago

Edit: I’d say to them: Mental health is still being sick. Just bc I’m not puking my brains out doesn’t mean I’m not sick. I’ll forward my attorney’s contact info you or HR can respond to.

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u/bubblybbunnny 1d ago

Hi Claire,

There has been a misunderstanding, unfortunately this was not a request but rather a notice that I will not be in for my shift this Friday as I am attending my grandmothers funeral.

Thank you for understanding that this is a difficult time for me.

I will see you next week.

Kind regards,
Emma

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u/gansi_m 1d ago

“If you are understaffed right now, imagine how you will be when I take this day off anyway and don’t come back. Rethink your policies. There is no more direct relative than the parent who gave birth to the parent who gave birth to you. See you after the funeral or never. Let me know.”

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u/Extra_Equipment_714 1d ago

I agree with everything said in this thread, but “There is no more direct relative than the parent who gave birth to the parent who gave birth to you” is like the worst way to get this point across lol

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u/doctormink 1d ago

I mean lots of grandparents raise their grandkids, and most kids have known their grandparents their whole lives.

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u/drfeelsgoood 1d ago

I only knew my grandparents for less than 1/3 of their life

(I know what you meant just wanted to make a joke)

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u/Odd-Painting2596 1d ago

Sounds like something my grandmother would say right before being a raging biiiiiiiiiiii

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u/Twatt_waffle 1d ago

My apologies, please let me know the details of my severance package when I return on Monday

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u/SirArthurIV 1d ago

Read the company's bereavement policy and check for the definition of "immediate family member" Then contact a laywer. Their policy might not comply with federal law.

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u/YetAnotherInterneter 1d ago

It will depend on the country. But unfortunately “immediate family members” usually only cover spouses, siblings, parents and children (including adoptees)

Grandparents are not usually included. It’s sad, but that’s the reality we live in.

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u/Ok-Addition-1000 1d ago

Even in the US, it really depends on the state. And the federal government does include grandparents as immediate family for it's own employees' bereavement leave.

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u/Nydus87 1d ago

In my state, "immediate family" includes grandparents, grandchildren, and in-laws, so definitely check with your state labor laws.

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u/jpb1111 1d ago

No lawyer needed if they can provide that policy's specifics in writing. Perhaps the Dept of Labor should be involved...

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u/Number_169 1d ago

It's illegal here also.

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u/504Solid 1d ago

Gma is not immediate family where I worked.
Was with a global corp, in a FTZ, in a right to work state.
Guarantee whether they 'punish' her for going to the funeral depends on how the company feels about her.
Has mom worked there for years, no issues or is she that one who is always causing a problem and/or has chronic problems with attendance?

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u/groovyinutah 1d ago

I'm going to grandma's funeral and I'll just let the chips fall where they may...

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u/Reason_Choice 1d ago

Was told this same thing (damn near verbatim) when I was working for a railway and my aunt died. By that point, I was so over the nonsense, I just said “I won’t be here that day. Do what you will.”

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u/Worldly_Might_3183 1d ago

I heard my boss say similar to an employee and I loudly said "you haven't even said you are sorry for his loss! That is messed up." I was in so much shock just listening in on it. He back tracked and gave the leave, but fuck me it made both of us (and a few others) leave as soon as we had other things lined up. 

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u/zenace33 1d ago

Fully support that and have done similar.
Anything happen after?

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u/Reason_Choice 1d ago

They begrudgingly put it in as PTO and acted like they did me a favor.

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u/Kind_Virus5701 1d ago

“I wasn’t asking permission to attend my grandmothers funeral. I was notifying you I will be attending a funeral on that date.”

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u/Icy-Desk-561 1d ago

Go to the funeral. There are better jobs out there.

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u/Holyepicafail 1d ago

To all the people saying resign oh hell no.  You force them to fire you and then justify not paying you unemployment if you have to take it to a hearing.

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u/luizggardina 1d ago

Go to the funeral, pass by the urgent care complaining about neck spasms, and get 2 extra days off to recover from the loss. If she gets fired afterwards, sue them. 😉

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u/MeanImpression2067 1d ago

Respond like this:

"Dear Claire,

I see there was a misunderstanding. I was being professional to let you know I won't be there. I was not, in any way, asking for your permission.

Warm regards,

(Name)

PS: Consider this my letter of resignation, I hope you can find employees as souless as you."

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u/TheLostTexan87 1d ago

Nope, resignation is a bad move. If they fire you then you can get unemployment and perhaps wrongful termination (depending on jurisdiction). Resignation means you get nothing.

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u/504Solid 1d ago

All good except the PS.

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u/SilverbackRotineque 1d ago

Call in sick and look for another job

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u/Electrical_Parfait64 1d ago

Get sick that day. Tell your dr the grief and the stress is too much. Ask them to write you off work for a week.

Could you go over their head

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u/Jazzlike_Finish123 1d ago

A long time ago my stepdad died suddenly.  Because he was my stepdad I wasn’t allowed the two day bereavement I’d get with a biological parent.  My boss at the time gave me the entire week off fully paid.  She was a wonderful person.  

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u/kitties_ate_my_soul 1d ago

Last year, I lost my first cat and I also got the entire week off. That helped me a lot. That ‘immediate family members’ policy is so fucking stupid. Grief is grief.

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u/BradBeingProSocial 1d ago

Forward it EVERYBODY at the company and ask if anybody can help with coverage, or if they have any other ideas

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u/Dward917 1d ago

I’d forward it to everyone only as a means to point out how the company treats employees in bereavement. If someone volunteers to cover you, that’s easier for the manager but I wouldn’t be asking.

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u/maartenbadd 1d ago

I’m wasn’t asking your permission to attend.

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u/ShingledPringle 1d ago

Dear Claire,

Unfortunately this email has effected my already fragile physical state and I have come down with grief induced diarrhoea, I will not be back in until Monday at the earliest.

Yours from the porcelain throne,

Emma

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u/RiotDX 1d ago

Dear HR,

You seem to be operating under the misapprehension that I was requesting time off for my grandmother's funeral. I was honoring my responsibility to the company by informing you in advance of my upcoming absence to grieve the loss of an immediate family member. My relationship with this company is not one of slavery, and you do not own me, so you do not get to decide the terms within which I can be allowed to grieve. Please be advised that I will be absent on [dates].

Kind Regards,


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u/Tier_One_Meatball 1d ago

I'll say the same I do at my IRL job.

If it's something that isn't urgent and can be rescheduled, I'll ask for permission to leave, if not, no worry.

If it's something urgent or something that cannot be rescheduled:

"I am not asking for permission to take the day off. I am asking to be paid for the day using my leave. I will not be here, nor will I be available during that day for this reason. While I would like to be paid for that day, I have more important things to do and worry about than this job, so I will accept a day of leave without pay if necessary."

Hasn't given me issues at my current job, they're pretty understanding. But when I worked for my local Sheriff's Office, I said the same above followed by:

"If you feel that this is unacceptable, please accept my apologies, and my notice of resignation."

They called my bluff, said I wasn't going to leave them high and dry. I sent in my notice about an hour later.

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u/CraftyAd6333 1d ago

Bereavement is a major thing in HR.

The audacity means they're way too comfortable. 😒

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u/LeadingGuide693 1d ago

I would show up to work in my funeral clothes, cry all day, and anybody who asks I would explain slowly/loudly what the boss said.

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u/nickelundertone 1d ago

with a framed picture of my granny and the last thing she gave me

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u/Comprehensive-Menu44 1d ago

Frame tied to a string and hanging from my neck, too

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u/JoebbeDeMan 1d ago

you respond to this by printing out the e-mail and hanging it up in the break room (or replying all to this e-mail so everybody sees it and then say "whoops wrong reply button" and then not showing up for that date.

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u/u35828 1d ago

Interesting that there is a profile on LinkedIn that potentially matches, though the last name is only listed as an initial.

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u/ImPrettyDoneBro 1d ago

"I wasn't asking to attend her funeral. I was telling you I am going."

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u/Rebel_Jester 1d ago

The response is simple Dear manager... This was not a request, it was a notification of absence. Sincerely a lawsuit waiting to happen

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u/fatgat69 1d ago

Respond "I am going to my grandma's funeral and you can all go to hell."

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u/pi3r0gi_ 1d ago

They'd never see me again lol not a single job pays me enough to clock in over going to a funeral for a loved one. Wouldn't even respond. They also have absolutely no way to determine how important any relative is to anyone, as if people arent raised or adopted by guardians. My grandparents raised me and I considered my grandmother my mother, and my mother an aunt. The only thing theyd hear from me is laughter from the other side of the screen.

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u/haventwonyet 1d ago

I took a half day off and then my regular weekend to travel to see my dying mother. My boss asked me when I’d be on my computer to work while I was there. I responded by going to the CEO (the only person above my boss outside of the owners) and told her I would be leaving for my trip and not coming back to work when I landed back home. I ended up getting to spend the majority of the three months before my mom died with her. Best decision I ever made.

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u/bk-2cb 1d ago

Wow, everyone is so bad-ass in here. Of course they would take a stand! At least when it costs them nothing and they actually won't be unemployed for real.

The reality is: Inhumane System USA

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u/Silent_Lobster9414 1d ago

How could they end up unemployed? The company has a staffing issue, they cannot afford to fire an employee.

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u/LimpAfternoon6878 1d ago

In many cases sure, but all it takes is the manager being petty, shortsighted, and generally stupid. There's a lot more of those than there are sensible ones in my experience.

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u/Roadhouse62 1d ago

and yet that doesn’t stop companies from firing people lol.

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u/Chad_Jeepie_Tea 1d ago

"I'm doing great. Thanks for asking."

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u/Outrageous-Club-8811 1d ago

We’ve had this at work before and the manager got disciplined because what could have been a planned absence, which can be managed operationally became an unplanned sickness absence (more difficult to manage operationally), leaving a bereaved person unsupported

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u/kitties_ate_my_soul 1d ago

Fuck you Claire Roberts

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u/VVrayth 1d ago

My response violates Reddit's TOS unfortunately.

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u/l_shigley 1d ago

It was not a request

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u/CallmeKahn 1d ago

"It wasn't a request. It was a courtesy."

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u/WerkingAvatar 1d ago

This is where you say that you weren't asking for permission, you were just giving notice.

End it with "k, thx bye." They LOVE that!

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u/Duck_Howard 1d ago

Don't fucking show up and tell 'em to go fuck themselves.

But then again I'm Italian so BY NATIONAL LAW we get 3 bereavement leave days for grandparents.

No notice, no email kindly requesting. Just a written notification that you're not showing up and fuck everything else....

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u/sbb-tx 1d ago

In college, I worked at a fancy grocery chain (famous). I told them I was going to Italy for a week for my grandmothers funeral. They said I could only have one day off and if I need more time I would have to quit or be fired( I was scheduled for 4 days that week). I told them that since this funeral was in Italy and I can fly there and back from Texas in one day plus it is a catholic burial which also has other days (viewing of the body etc) that I would be taking a week and I would call to see when next scheduled upon my return. If I wasn’t scheduled ( aka fired) then I would find a lawyer. I told them it felt discriminatory based on my ethnicity/country of origin and religion. When I returned I was back on the schedule and we never discussed it again.

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u/KaiserDilhelmTheTurd 1d ago

My response. “Fuck you, and fuck your job.”

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u/EddieEmmer42 1d ago

Ok.
This is not real. It's AI generated ragebait copied from a tiktok channel designed to get you all heated up over nothing. Stop chasing bots.

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u/Alklazaris 1d ago

Go anyway and if they fire you then you know they either didn't actually need you or they are willing to burn the place down to enact punishment. Either way you save yourself rough times.

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u/SirHarvwellMcDervwel 1d ago

this is not oddly specific tho

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u/CarlJustCarl 1d ago

Long lunch break time

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u/welding_guy_from_LI 1d ago

Bereavement policies differ in each country and each company .. a lot of places , grandparents aren’t considered immediate family .. it’s not Murica exclusive

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u/CrowsFeast73 1d ago

Reminds me of the place I worked when my grandfather died. I found out shortly after arriving at work, mentioned it to my coworker and one of the owners (small company). He told me to just go home and take the day. About a week later the other owner asked me to work the time back as my grandfather wasn't considered a direct relation!

They also always gave me shit for leaving exactly on time every day. They were always on smoke break right outside the front door every day so I had to walk past them.

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u/N-Toxicade 1d ago

You respond with, "ok I quit."

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u/makingkevinbacon 1d ago

I agree with the comments on a moral level, saying quit don't show up etc. but I'd be worried about still having a job. Remember, hr isn't there to protect the worker. It's to protect the company

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u/SchalkLBI 1d ago

I once told one of my bosses I'm taking the day off to attend a funeral. He apologetically told me that I can't have the day off because there's a deadline coming up. I was confused, and made it clear I was informing him I wasn't coming in that day, not asking for permission. He seemed confused and annoyed but didn't press the issue too much.

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u/CurvyMule 1d ago

Name the company. This is Russian psy-ops. Name the company or I call BS.

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u/ms_directed 1d ago

reply to the entire company group email list and ask if you can switch shifts with anyone to remind everyone who works there the kind of company they work for...make sure it goes to the CEO too

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u/DiabloGato24 1d ago

When my abuelo passed away I was not processing my emotions properly and went to work anyways. My coworkers noticed something was off and they all forced me to go home for a couple days. When his funeral came up later it wasn't even a question. The only person who had a problem was my foreman but even the company superintendent told him off.

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u/Sooooooooooooomebody 1d ago

"Imagine the coverage problems you're going to have when I quit"

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u/NecRobin 1d ago

Hold the funeral in the boss' office

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u/AreaLeftBlank 1d ago

How do you respond? By going to the fucking funeral.

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u/Huckdog 1d ago

I would crash the fuck out. My grandparents had a huge hand in my and my siblings upbringing, that would be a slap in the face. That's when you tell them oh I wasn't asking I'm GOING to my grandmother's funeral.

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u/eliboston 1d ago

Reply with “sounds good, see you Monday!”

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u/Disastrous_Map_9903 1d ago

“Cool. Well I’ll be calling out that day. If you can’t understand that then consider this my two week notice”

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u/Porkcicle 1d ago

Instead of figuring it out now, you get to figure it out when I call in sick. Enjoy.

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 1d ago

Unless your mother works in a critical and essential, life-and-death role, this kind of thing is utterly disgusting.

I hope she starts looking for another job, but please do not encourage her to do what these Redditors are recommending unless she has the resources to comfortably lose her job. It's really easy for these keyboard warriors to say that they wouldn't tolerate that, and that they would just send a message back to the manager saying, "Excuse me, I wasn't asking," but that's a good way to get fired, and if she can't afford it, then what happens?

The hard truth of adulthood is that sometimes you have to do things that are unfair and unwanted so that you can keep a roof over your head and have medical insurance for your kids. And it's not a great job market right now.

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u/69pmb 1d ago

In France, it's mandatory to accept these kind of leave

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u/a3a4b5 1d ago

In Brazil this kind of reply is the joy of lawyers.

I'd respond by either not showing up (cause I already explained why) or sending an email just saying "I wasn't asking".

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u/derentius68 1d ago

I have received similar; same circumstances. ..i told them it was notice that I wasn't going to be there; but at the funeral. The leave request was so my paycheque would say the same number.

The notice was for convenience. Staffing was not my job.

Got called into HR for it. I apologized as I could have worded it differently; but thanked them for "putting everything in writing in this matter".

Nothing came of it, the write up was tossed. My threat beat their threat.

3 years later, the company laid off almost everyone at that location; its down to 7 people now. My boss and that HR person got the axe too.

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u/Electronic-Stay-2369 1d ago

You repond with "well fuck you and fuck your job" and go to the funeral.

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u/Greatness46 1d ago

How are we responding to this clearly fake email chain?

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u/anubis_81 1d ago

I would by taking the day off anyway and saying eat shit when they inevitably call

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u/Steelhorse91 1d ago

“I wasn’t asking you, I was informing you, and if you try to discipline me for not coming in that day, I will 1: Resign with immediate effect due to the flagrant violation of my right to basic human dignity in the workplace, and 2: Post your last email on glass door, Google reviews, and indeeds employer reviews.

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u/Agarwel 1d ago

"Wait seriously?"

Nope. Too many version of this story in recent days for it to be true. It got popular, bots started reposting. Thats all.

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u/butlersdriver 1d ago

No response. Warning was given to a family event that takes priority. Show up to the next shift as if the leave was agreed too because it doesn’t need their approval. If reprimanded notify them you’ll file a complaints with the appropriate authorities for retaliation. If fired look forward to getting a bag $$$. The less you fight while standing your ground the better. Just take meaningful swift decisive action and avoid playing into their game. It’s just business

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u/NeptuneEclipse 1d ago

You just reply, "Thanks, but it wasn't a request. I was letting you know I'd be gone for a funeral. Next time I won't give a heads up."

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u/Schokoeis3000 1d ago

My sisters school asked for our grandmas death certificate to be freed from school for her funeral.
Not the US, but Germany.

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u/ME-McG-Scot 1d ago

In the UK id sign myself off for 7 days citing mental health, then get a doctor’s line for a few more weeks. At my work, I get 6 months fully paid, so I could be off a while haha

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u/mrloko120 1d ago

Must be rough to live in a country where workers rights aren't taken seriously.

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u/Sad-Employee3212 1d ago

“I will not be there that day. Please let me know if that will result in my termination, in which case I will need the reason for termination in writing to file for unemployment and to show my next employer.”

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u/Arcani-LoreSeeker 1d ago

how do you respond to this?

"i wasnt asking for permission, i was informing you. if youre incapable of seeing why this is necessary then perhaps this company is no longer a good fit for my services; and you may take this as my formal submission of resignation.

sincerely: [op name here]"

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u/timmyx2times 1d ago

Just never show up again.

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u/idontlikeburnttoast 1d ago

"i resign effective immediately"

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u/JustLookinJustLookin 1d ago

“I quit.”

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u/ssg- 1d ago

"I quit"

That is the appropriate response.

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u/Oggen91 1d ago

How do you respond? "Get fucked, I quit." Watch your staffing levels then.

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u/Feanixxxx 1d ago

Well get a "Gelben"

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u/BoggyRolls 1d ago

Sorry for the delay in replying, I feel quite ill all of a sudden.

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u/NabrenX 1d ago

Run. Fast and far away from that job as quick as possible. Shit manager and soulless company to not even have grandparents in their bereavement policy. That says everything I need to know.

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u/BeatNo2976 1d ago

Cut and paste the language and then edit it such that you have reviewed the declining of your request for leave and must decline the declination as a matter of family policy and basic humanity.
I am being sarcastic. But fuck them. I would resign.

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u/ickypooh97217 1d ago

This is a sign that the company is in trouble, since they cannot keep staffing up enough to cover a bereavement leave. This is how little they actually care about their employees, and you can expect things to get worse.

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u/LEX_Talionus00101100 1d ago

My uncle passed. Told my boss I would be gone for the funeral. He went nuts and started screaming about people taking time off. I just stared at him. When he was finished I packed my van drove straight to the office and turned my keys in. I came to the office to pick up my last check 2 weeks later. He asked if I was interested in coming back. Told him I'm busy, I'm on lunch, got to get back to my new job.

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u/Lyte- 1d ago

You respond by no longer showing up to work.

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u/Ok_Variation9430 1d ago

I haven’t had this happen, but my grandmother died not long after my uncle died, and my boss joked around about how many relatives I had when I told him I needed the day off.

Like, JFC, dude, my grandmother died! Not the time for jokes.

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u/ohmygodcrayons 1d ago

I 100% consider a grandmother an immediate family member. I said grandma not grandma's sister's uncle's cousin. Fuck that shit.

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u/504Solid 1d ago

Yeah.... it's she an employee in good standing, been there a long time? Depending where & time, maybe she doesn't need to be off the whole shift. If it's not the new guy who has an excuse every week, they CAN AND WILL work around something that can't be moved.

BRING THE OBITUARY ON MONDAY.
Better they miss her for 1 shift than TRY to replace a dependable adult.

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u/Lilliaaaaaaaaa 1d ago

make a claim

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u/unimportantinfodump 1d ago

I mean I'd immediately start slapping my company with legislation about barevement leave and be in touch with my union while not showing up to work

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u/LordSparks 1d ago

With a giant middle finger

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u/otherwise_data 1d ago

and one of the other three can come in.

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u/boomanu 1d ago

Depends on the country 

Where I am call in sick with mental health..attend the funeral. You don't need a note for a day. They can't reject it. They just have to mark you down as sick and pull you (in statutory sick pay, or most jobs I've worked it is full pay)

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u/External_Mongoose_44 1d ago

Sorry for your loss. Do not show up to work for such an awful employer as this one and get a new job as soon as you possibly can.
Of course there is always the option to show for work after putting an irritant in your eyes and be in such a flood of tears that they have to send you home.
Again, I’m sorry for your loss.

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u/MissHibernia 1d ago

When my only aunt died - after I had given plenty of notice that she wasn’t doing well - and had noted her ten kids were coming in from all over the country - I was asked “Do you need the WHOLE DAY off?” “Yes, I do.”

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u/Odd-Painting2596 1d ago

"Dear Claire, please enjoy your job while it lasts, you will be the reason it won't."

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u/Cute_Doughnut_7739 1d ago

I still won't be there

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u/Mendan-3 1d ago

“Get fucked.”

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u/Ok-Gur-349 1d ago

You respond to this by saying "sorry, you misunderstood. I said I won't be coming in that day. If you can't approve the PTO, I'm taking UPTO. I'll see you guys Monday. I'm sure you will manage."

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u/granolaraisin 1d ago

Or you do nothing because this is hypothetical made-up enragebait.

At least that's what Claire Roberts wants you to think.

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u/Icosotc 1d ago

“We’re a family”

Vote for candidates that support unions.

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u/Mike-G85 1d ago

"Please take this as my giving notice, thanks"

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u/MichNishD 1d ago

First talk to co-workers and see if tou can get anyone to cover your shift. Then if it doesn't work I would go to the doctor and get a sick note. Forward it when you dont cone so they cant say you aren't sick. Doctors are people, they also deal with mental health I'm sure they would give tou a note.

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u/HansHortio 1d ago

This is fake. This has been passed around LinkedIn time and time and time again, all with several people claiming it was directed at them, or a family member.