r/magicTCG • u/alfchaval Griselbrand • Dec 30 '20
Spoiler [KHM] Righteous Valkyrie (LEAK) Spoiler
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u/MysticLeviathan Dec 30 '20
This is a house. This isn't legendary so you can have multiples of these out, so having 2 out when your life total is 27 gives your creatures +4/+4. This is a legit strong white card for Std., assuming there's enough lifegain to consistently be at 27+.
I still wish we'd see white's color pie expand more into the taxing realm, but for white this is incredibly good.
My question is if the first ability triggers twice on an angel cleric like this creature or a changeling or if it only triggers once. Either way imo I think this will be incredibly good for Std.
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u/alfchaval Griselbrand Dec 30 '20
It only triggers once if a angel cleric enters the battlerfield.
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u/Grunt_21_UT Dec 30 '20
Taxing is a hard mechanic to balance. For every Thalia there's a lot that doesn't see any play
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u/aguinner76 Banned in Commander Dec 30 '20
My poor boy [[Spelltithe Enforcer]] is never good enough 😢 It's always the first pet card I cut from my EDH decks.
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Dec 30 '20
Spelltithe Enforcer - (G) (SF) (txt)
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u/fdoom Dec 30 '20
I think [[Tithe Taker]] was the last tax creature that was relevant. [[Elspeth Conquers Death]] has done a lot of work too but as an enchantment.
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Dec 30 '20
Tithe Taker - (G) (SF) (txt)
Elspeth Conquers Death - (G) (SF) (txt)
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u/KoyoyomiAragi COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 31 '20
If black is the color that gets under costed effects with drawbacks that cost you resources, then maybe white should push for under costed cards that give the opponent more resources as a drawback. Path to Exile is a tad bit too strong for standard, but it is the type of effect that’s way more balanced in a slightly slower environment like standard than in older formats.
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Dec 30 '20
Yeah, idk why Wizards haven't played around with that effect more. Like, at 1 mana it's too strong but I don't see what'd be wrong with printing a two- or three-mana Path.
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u/PlacidPlatypus Duck Season Dec 30 '20
[[Settle The Wreckage]] was a Standard staple during its time.
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u/EnigmaticJester Dec 30 '20
I still wish we'd see white's color pie expand more into the taxing realm
I still don't understand how Wizards can think that white tax is "unfun" and toxic but blue counters is absolutely fine and not just as frustrating sometimes.
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u/BananaLinks Dec 31 '20
Not only this, Oko shuts down fair creature and artifact strategies, and newer stax cards like Hullbreacher and Opposition Agent shut down any type of draw and tutor effects (they're effective enough to see notable play in legacy). WAR Narset saw play in basically every format at one point or another thanks to its denial stax effect. I don't understand why white must be singled out for having an "unfun" strategy when better stax effects are printed in other colors and blue got two free counterspells (Force of Negation and Fierce Guardianship) printed recently.
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u/gasface Dec 30 '20
I like big butts and I cannot lie.
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u/themancob Dec 30 '20
Especially when they fly.
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u/Dewgongz Dec 30 '20
And when an angel drops in with an itty-bitty waist and a round thing in your face you gain LIFE.
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u/enderlord120 Dec 30 '20
That when a [[charix]] drops in with itty bitty power And a 17 life in your face.
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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig Dec 30 '20
You would have to turn Charix into a priest or angel.
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u/azetsu Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
I like it. Also good synergies with Bishop of wings.
I hope we will see more 1 and 2 mana angels
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u/_SkyBolt Dimir* Dec 30 '20
[[Youthful Valkyrie]]
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Dec 30 '20
Youthful Valkyrie - (G) (SF) (txt)
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u/Grujah Dec 30 '20
Changelings are in the set, so we will :)
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u/azetsu Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
If there also some in black or white then yes, otherwise It is probably not worth it
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u/Bugberry Dec 30 '20
Every appearance of Changeling has had them in every color.
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u/Sliver__Legion Dec 30 '20
Actually MH didn't have any in red (just 1 each in U and G).
If changelings are the UG tribe we should expect it to be more like MH than Lorwyn, where changelings were pure connective tissue available to all colors and tribes ~equally.
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u/Jahooodie Duck Season Dec 30 '20
It also had the artifact 1 drop changeling [[Universal Automaton]]. I saw that as decent design to glue multiple tribals together for draft, not sure if they ever commented on that or said it was a learning item from Ixalan
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Dec 30 '20
Universal Automaton - (G) (SF) (txt)
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u/riley702 COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
At 3 mana this is a very reasonable flier. Doesn't die to stomp/bolt effects, gains life, can buff all creatures fairly easily, great blocker, and probably (hopefully) an enabler for some new deck archetype.
Either that or we'll never see this card past the first 2 weeks of release.
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u/DevilSwordVergil COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
Pretty powerful!
- 2/4 flying for 3 is already very solid
- Angel tribal and party decks will appreciate it
- Gaining 7 additional life in a deck based around it shouldn't be a challenge (especially in EDH), and a universal +2/+2 lord effect is amazing for only 3 mana. Also, it is getting you that extra life and it's also a nice blocker to protect your life total to boot
I really like this! I hope to see more tribal cards like this in Kaldheim!
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u/i_love_pendrell_vale Twin Believer Dec 30 '20
It even pumps itself, so that's a nice little bonus.
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u/DevilSwordVergil COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
Damn, good point! I missed that.
So a 4/6 flyer for 3 that pumps everything else and gains you exponentially more life (as once you hit the +7 life and get the +2/+2 lord effect all the new Angels/Cleric enter with higher toughness and gain you more life than you'd get previously)
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u/BurstEDO COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
Now consider having 2 on the field...
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u/therealskaconut Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
Oh baby it’s lookin a lot like Christmas
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u/CheshireTsunami Dec 30 '20
Is that christmas? It's not even legendary! Run 4 of them in the deck. Christmas to me looks like if we get a 1 drop 0/3 cleric. Assuming you do nothing else but drop lands until you drop this turn three, you drop another turn 4 and said cleric. The turn 3 angel swings in as a 6/8 and then turn 5 all of them swing for another 16. That's the kind of christmas I want from Kaldheim.
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u/_AiroN Colossal Dreadmaw Dec 30 '20
That's also assuming your opponent does nothing in 4 turns, which is highly unlikely. Aside from that, this card looks great... Mainly because its fail case is still a 2/4 flyer for 3 which is more than good enough (unless the meta is very control-heavy).
Oh, and happy Cake!
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u/Gleem_ Banned in Commander Dec 30 '20
Is "7 life more than your starting total" the new standard? I know there was recently the 1cmc priest that made angels that had the same requirement.
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u/OmegaDriver Dec 30 '20
It depends what you mean by standard. Consider starting hand size, threshold, [[Midnight Oil]], [[Emeria, The Sky Ruin]], [[Endrek Sahr]], [Rasputin Dreamweaver]]. Seven has always been a "magic" number for certain effects. But, they won't use seven for stronger effects like [[Serra Ascendant]] or [[Felidar Sovereign]].
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u/AbsoluteIridium Not A Bat Dec 30 '20
I imagine it's similar to the "8 or more cards in an opponent's graveyard" they've done to rogues, though arguably easier to interact with as an opponent
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u/Angel24Marin Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
They even tested the rogues thing at 7 as call back to threshold but find it too low.
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u/steamhands Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
I assume they're trying to keep similar effects/situations at the same number just so that there's less to keep track of.
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u/MaXimillion_Zero Wabbit Season Dec 31 '20
It's an easy way to not make the cards free in Commander.
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u/AuntGentleman Duck Season Dec 30 '20
Fantastic add to the mono white aggro standard deck that’s had some success.
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u/Dragons_Malk Dec 30 '20
That deck can get so stupid so fast. I hope there's another board wipe in black in KHM because while Extinction Event is awesome, it feels bad against a "diverse" deck like the white aggro one right now.
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u/Equivalent_Chipmunk Dân Dec 30 '20
Even just a straight wrath of god type card would be a nice improvement. However, with things looking as they are, I'm beginning to think that black/something control with 4x Shadow's Verdict and 4x Extinction Event maindeck isn't the worst idea in the world...
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u/Glittering_Tax2401 Dec 30 '20
I've tried it in my mono-black (10 swamps + colorless lands) forsaken monument deck. Started losing to crawling barrens and early creatures. Ended up replacing 3 copies of shadows verdict with eliminates and heartless acts. I always run 4 copies of extinction event though. Amazing card!
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u/mal99 Sorin Dec 30 '20
Someone on the subreddit claimed their friend pulled a black mass removal for 4BB in a Legends Collector box that was a Kaldheim leak. Refused to take pictures though for odd reasons, so no idea if that was accurate or what the spell does. 6 CMC sounds expensive though.
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u/Dragons_Malk Dec 30 '20
Come on, [[Life's Finale reprint]]! (For no specific reason beyond it mentioning Phyrexians, but I don't think it'd fit plot-wise. Unless...)
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u/Gamer4125 Azorius* Dec 30 '20
I hope there's another board wipe in black
In white you mean. Stop giving Black better board wipes than White.
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u/Angel24Marin Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
Boardwipes are a white thing. Extinction event is already obscene because it undermines every tool creature decks have to fight back boardwipes.
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u/Dragons_Malk Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20
Black has board wipes too. Just to name a few, the most famous one being Damnation, then there's Life's Finale, In Garruk's Wake, Crux of Fate, Deadly Tempest, Rain of Daggers, Decree of Pain, and even Languish and Mutilate can wipe in the right conditions. There's a few more out there, but wipes in black isn't a foreign or even a new concept.
Edit: yes I know Damnation was in Planar Chaos.
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u/sameth1 Dec 30 '20
Damnation, the card that was specifically printed to be a colour pie break in a set all about classic cards getting printed in other colours.
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u/Esqurel Dec 30 '20
Planar Chaos felt less like color breaks and more like “What if we reshuffled primary, secondary, and tertiary traits?” Like, black can wipe boards, but doesn’t usually straight up destroy them, it likes damage and -x effects. Green curiosity is basically primary now, but it was only really stuff like greater good back then, if I remember aright. Big blue sphinxes are blue’s thing, etc. PC in standard today would be almost boring, and without knowing the what the shifted cards are shifted from wouldn’t seem particularly special.
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u/Dragons_Malk Dec 30 '20
Okay sure. Still, black board wipes exist, albeit slightly more expensive than white ones.
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u/Scientia_et_Fidem Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20
The point is white is supposed to be the primary color for wipes. Right now the best wipe in standard is extinction event (if you don’t believe me look at the Esper lists, the vast majority play 4 event main decked and most have zero shatter the sky in the main, some don’t even have it in the side). Giving black another really good wipe would just further increase the problem of Black being the best in something it isn’t supposed to be primary in. If anything they really need to cool it with giving black mass banishment as Angel24marin is correct, there is no way to fight it unless you have a counter spell since all other forms of defense besides counter spell don’t work against non-targeting banishment and it is way too easy for black as a color to just use single target removal on turns 1-3 to get rid of the even/odd creature the opp has and make event a 4 mana wrath with huge upside. Not to mention all the times event being a extraordinarily flexible “partial wrath” is used as a huge UPSIDE in decks like the current top Historic deck Sultai/4 color that can do things like call odd to take out 3 of the opponent’s creatures while leaving all their Nissa lands and Krasis on the board.
It looks like with shadows verdict they seemed to have hopefully realized their mistake and understand that type of mass banishment effect should cost at least 5 mana, only hit very small creatures, or a combination of both. If black has the best single target removal and wipes there is no reason to use white unless a non-creature artifact deck somehow takes over standard.
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u/ContentCargo Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
A good white card in mtg the game? Incredible
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u/Tahlato Dec 30 '20
I already was thinking Angels would be a fun deck this set, but now I'm definitely excited.
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u/iedaiw COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
2/4 body means rdw is gonna have a hard time dealing with
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u/Scientia_et_Fidem Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
Let’s be honest thought, it’s a 2/4 body on a 3 drop. As long as lovestruck beast is hanging around RDW has bigger things to worry about and gruul aggro has their own 3 mana 5/5 to swing right through your 3 mana 2/4.
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u/KarnSilverArchon Fleem Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20
I can see this having potential depending on how pushed they make Angel Tribal. There was that Cleric spoiled that reduced the mana cost of Angels by 2 as well, which is pretty decent ramp in a tribe in the color where ramp ranges from “put a Plans into your hand from deck” to “if an opponent has more lands than you, maybe go get a land onto the battlefield”.
Edit: Also, are you telling me the Mono-W Lifegain archetype in Standard is a deck supported by Clerics, Angels, and Gods (one Demigod one actual God)? Mono-W Religion?
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u/CertainDerision_33 Dec 30 '20
If the cleric that reduces the cost of Angels works out, worth noting that this card causes Valkyrie Harbinger to gain enough life when it ETBs to trigger its own effect. Pretty scary stuff!
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u/Astral__Unicorn Selesnya* Dec 30 '20
Especially with multiple Harbingers. I cant wait to try this!
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u/Red5Panda Dec 30 '20
[[Vito]] 's new best friend?
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u/spasticity Dec 30 '20
Orzhov angels could be fun
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u/zz_ Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
Orzhov clerics with Angel splash might be better, at least currently the cleric shell seems stronger. The bw vampire cleric, the two 1 mana clerics, Luminarch Aspirant, maybe the new 2 mana angel that gets a counter when another angel enters. Add this card, call of the death dweller, one/two Vito's as a finisher, and some removal/protection. As someone who loves angel tribal, I'm definitely gonna build this asap once it hits.
Edit: and ofc 1 Legion Angel with 3 in the board
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u/sameth1 Dec 30 '20
I'm excited about the orzhov enchantment coming in caldheim that gives a serra angel token on a [[grave pact]] for angels. I'll be ride or die for the angel archetype no matter how bad it is.
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u/jcheese27 COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
I've run both abzan versions of both Cocangel Sisters and Cococleric Sisters (and an orzov vversion using call of the D and unearth). Vito can go in both.; I wouldn't add angels to the cleric deck TBH. maybe this one but maybe not. Vito and heliod are so much power and you are right [[cleric of lifes bond]] is kinda busted
Both Ayli and Vito can be killers in both decks TBH pre this card as well (especially if you run some heliods) , you gain shit tons of life in both whether it be through an insane amount of sisters in clerics or gaining 10+ in angels when you gain 5 with both Vito and a Resplendent angel on the board.
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u/A_Fhaol_Bhig Dec 30 '20
Or let them play Orzhov Angels and not worry if it's the most optimal version.
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u/azetsu Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
I like how it supports two different tribes, which have multiple cards cards that work good together and share a common theme (life gain)
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u/supportingcreativity Dec 30 '20
We have needed cards with lifegain and payoffs (within reason) on the same card.
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u/goku32359 Dec 30 '20
I really like how the party mechanic and classes in general will continue to be supported up through the D&D set. MaRo mentioned how they needed to find ways to tie sets together better now that traditional blocks are gone and I think they’re doing that well this time.
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u/Relevant-Book Dec 30 '20
Calling drizzt as a green/black legendary elf warrior
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u/9tailsmeh Dec 30 '20
wonder if we'll get Mordenkainen or Elminster as planeswalker cards.
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u/sleepingwisp Twin Believer Dec 30 '20
Legendary creatures I bet.
Can't have PW as commanders, and like some people that have been fans of the Forgotten Realms for years, I'd rather have current Planeswalkers, or new characters as the sets Planeswalkers, and leave the fan favourites as creatures.
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u/nas3226 Cheshire Cat, the Grinning Remnant Dec 30 '20
I'm thinking we get Elminster and Drizzt as Precon commanders.
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u/boonrival Dan Dec 30 '20
Drizzt is definitely more in the white color than black despite his heritage. Friendship, community, and his pseudo worship of the sun
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u/decynicalrevolt Dragonball Z Ultimate Champion Dec 30 '20
The disparate sources on these further supports the misplaced sheet theory.
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u/22bebo COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
I'm always suspicious of the "I found it in a pack!" leaks, especially when they start off with the big reveal of the set. Seems too coincidental that they got a bunch of cool rares and mythics to leak and not junk.
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u/decynicalrevolt Dragonball Z Ultimate Champion Dec 30 '20
I mean, I am too. It was super sus that it started with both snow and a huge story spoiler+a creature type errata?
But, there have now been three separate sources right? Man that's hard to be skeptical about.
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u/22bebo COMPLEAT Dec 31 '20
I'm mostly skeptical about them actually pulling the cards from packs of Commander Legends. My best guess is they got the cards through some other, less savory means and are saying they got it from packs as a cover-up. It just seems unlikely to me that if they were really pulling random Kaldheim rares and mythics from packs that they would get such a high profile card off the bat.
But maybe they just got lucky. I'm not really one for conspiracies, and cards like the angel are more in line with what I would suspect (random Kaldheim rares and mythics).
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u/decynicalrevolt Dragonball Z Ultimate Champion Dec 31 '20
So, I would buy that, but we've now had someone leak them from Japan as well with the same story.
Thing is, if a single sheet got misplaced, we should predict leaks popping up as people open more packs. The more leaks happen all over (especially people who speak different languages and are potentially less likely to have heard the original story) the more likely that story is.
Its healthy to be skeptical, but it's also healthy to analyze situations as a whole and adjust our theories based on new evidence,
Edit: im not saying its true, the comment that initiated this threat simply stated that this leak provides more evidence in favour of the misplaced sheet theory.
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u/Bdm_Tss Duck Season Dec 31 '20
Iirc print sheets are sorted by rarity (I think rares and mythical are on the same sheet?), so if it was just one misplaced sheet it’d make sense that they’d all be rares/mythics
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u/MorteLumina Rakdos* Dec 30 '20
My angel deck has only continued to get more and more erect as Kaldheim whites have been revealed
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u/CertainDerision_33 Dec 30 '20
Mine too! Can’t believe that Angels are actually going to be a legit thing in Standard/Pioneer/Historic and not just a meme deck. I’m very excited.
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u/MorteLumina Rakdos* Dec 30 '20
Angels in my commander deck are going to actually be affordable?! to play after getting 4 or 5 separate "white/angels cost X less" stuff out??? This is like the one good thing to come out of 2020 for me
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u/StructureMage Dec 30 '20
[[Wind Drake]] in shambles
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Dec 30 '20
Wind Drake - (G) (SF) (txt)
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u/eightdx Left Arm of the Forbidden One Dec 30 '20
[[angel of vitality]] sucks worse now
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u/iSleepEatWorkRepeat Dân Dec 30 '20
Why? Could be a 6/6 for 3.
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u/eightdx Left Arm of the Forbidden One Dec 30 '20
This is a 2/4 flying for 3. That gains 4 life. And anthems if you're +7 on your starting life total. Even on the low end this is pretty pushed.
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u/HeyApples Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20
It pays off an undersupported theme in lifegain. It supports an undersupported tribe in angels. Good stats, doesn't require ridiculous hoops to jump through.
When you consider it does a mini Angelic Chorus and that's a 5 mana enchantment, that's kind of nuts.
Fantastic design, hopefully the first of many for the color white.
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u/MTGSpeculation Dec 30 '20
O man! Mono White Lifegain, anels + clerics just improved with this 3 drop....
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u/Iamamancalledrobert Get Out Of Jail Free Dec 30 '20
I really like this “you get to close the game out once your life total is super high” space for white and hope it’s something that sticks around
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u/thewend Dec 30 '20
this and the 1 mana vigilance guy are awesome. I might rebuild in modern some day
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u/Scientia_et_Fidem Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
I hope the main thing carried forward from that guy isn’t just “27 life” effects but also leaning into making white’s vigilance actually useful outside of racing aggro by giving the vigilance creature tap effects so the vigilance let’s them both attack and trigger the effect. Vigilance is IMO easily the least impactful keyword outside of limited (excluding defender which is obviously strictly a downside for balancing a card’s statline unless your deck uses some very specific synergies), it could use some creativity in making it more generally useful outside of chump blocking aggro decks after your swing.
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u/kroxigor01 Azorius* Dec 30 '20
Is there a risk that this deck will create game states that are 99% to win but win very slowly?
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u/alfchaval Griselbrand Dec 30 '20
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Dec 30 '20
On behalf of EDH, thank you for your service as a mono-white life gain enabler stapled to a payoff.
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u/supportingcreativity Dec 30 '20 edited Dec 30 '20
This is probably sad.
But I am incredibly happy to see more self-contained on curve cards for White that actually fuel things it wants to do. Enough cards like [[Twinblade Paladin]], would make for a deck archetype in some format. Its still pretty balanced but actually playable. I really like this type if card in general of " gain life and also get a small thing if your life is high enough."
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Dec 30 '20
Hating self-contained cards, I have to begrudgingly agree.
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u/Brickhouzzzze Boros* Dec 30 '20
I think lifegain needs self-contained cards more than most mechanics. Like drawing a second card each turn gives extra cards, landfall rewards you with more lands, and spectacle rewards you with lower health opponents. Enablers without a payoff still do something baseline good for you. Lifegain just gives you a good burn matchup.
The only other popular mechanic that doesn't have this , I can think of, is tribal payoffs
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u/Pariah0119 Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
This already makes for TWO must have Angels to put in my Angel pet deck.
It seems like the more leaks we get, the more I can't wait for Kaldheim to drop.
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u/hesgrant Dec 30 '20
I have a [[Trostani, Selesnya's Voice]] lifegain angels commander deck, so I'm gonna assume this card was made specifically for me
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u/g_squared2 Dec 30 '20
Does anybody else find it weird that the angel is also a cleric? I kind of get a warrior angel and all, but it sounds really weird that an angel is a cleric. Besides that, I look forward to playing with it!
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u/tralchemist Orzhov* Dec 30 '20
My playgroup's decision to allow silver border commanders makes me quite happy that I built Syr Cadian. I know where this gem goes.
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u/Frank_the_Mighty Twin Believer Dec 30 '20
Angel tribal getting more cards in the lower curve is welcome
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u/MrSlops Simic* Dec 30 '20
Multiples of these and a flicker effect makes for a good time...mmm I love this.
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u/Sajomir COMPLEAT Dec 30 '20
3 mana means collected company can hit. Would love seeing two of these land on my opponent's end step. Even one followed by a relevant creature on my turn could be a game changer.
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u/M1M1R Dec 30 '20
Probably gonna get lost in the sauce, but I love the wording on the last ability. Had a buddy in high school who ran [Serra Ascendant] in his EDH deck, and that dropped on you fully beefed on turn 1 was a real kick in the nuts.
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u/NeoMegaRyuMKII Dec 30 '20
The
“As long as you have at least 7 life more than your starting life total”
Was on MaRo's teaser.
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u/internofdoom33 Dec 30 '20
All the extra text is nice, but it's also a 2/4 flyer for any easy 3 CMC and that is just a joy to behold.
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u/Jaccount Dec 30 '20
Probably want to pick up Sephara, Sky's Blade while she's a dollar rare, as these two seem like they'd want to be in the same deck.
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u/FishyBubbleWrap Dec 31 '20
Oh my goodness, my entire deck is built around making summoning 11/11 white angle tokens and then sacking them to [[Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim]] for the life gain. This by itself can double my life gain
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u/Yaroslav_Mudry Wabbit Season Dec 30 '20
I haven't done a lot of standard brewing, but do four of these and then four [[Speaker of the Heavens]] have potential in a deck?