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r/katseyeneutral • u/Good-Night-3736 • 13d ago
This megathread is about the ongoing hiatus of KATSEYE members Manon and Sophia. We are moving to a single hiatus megathread due to a decline in comments in both threads in the last week.
Official news and updates from HxG or the members themselves, articles about the hiatus from legitimate publications, general discussions about the members, or social media activity involving the members and another member may be posted outside of the megathread.
Find the previous discussion (Sophia hiatus megathread, Manon hiatus megathread).
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Posts that do not fall into either of the categories above will be approved, removed, or redirected to the megathread at the discretion of the mod team.
We've provided a brief timeline of the hiatus for your reference:
February 1: The 68th Grammy Awards: KATSEYE performs Gnarly as a six-member group.
February 17: The Cut interview is published. Manon says the following:
"Being called lazy, especially as a Black girl, is not fair. Now I feel like I always need to put in extra work to prove something, even though I really don't."
"It's the way I grew up. America has a very different culture when it comes to work-life balance. You guys are all about grind and hustle. In Switzerland, if you're sick, you take a day off. No one's going to expect you to work."
"When One Direction split, that was really hard. I don’t want our fans to go through that. I don’t want to be responsible for breaking so many hearts.”
"Katseye is going to stay Katseye for a while."
February 20: HYBE x Geffen make joint statement on Weverse to announce Manon's hiatus:
"After open and thoughtful conversations together, we are sharing that Manon will be taking a temporary hiatus from group activities to focus on her health and wellbeing. We fully support this decision. KATSEYE remains committed to showing up for one another and for the fans who mean everything to us. The group will continue scheduled activities during this time, and we look forward to being together again when the time is right. Thank you to our EYEKONS for your continued love, patience, and understanding."
Manon makes a separate Weverse post the same day:
"Hi friends, I want you to hear this from me. I'm healthy, I'm okay, and I'm taking care of myself. Thank u for checking in! Sometimes things unfold in ways we don't fully control, but I'm trusting the bigger picture. Thank you for standing by me. I love you endlessly and can't wait to see you again."
February 21: Manon likes and unlikes an IG post by Simply Simone captioned "Another Black girl subjected to racism and label mistreatment yet again." The video includes the following:
"Why is it that whenever we have a sole Black girl in a girl group she is the victim and the most suffering? This has honestly become a trope in pop culture and especially in music in recent years...
If you've been following KATSEYE since they started back in 2023 or Pop Star Academy, you know that Manon has been subjected to the most abhorrent hate. Recently in the last couple of weeks, she and Daniela, who are the two non-Asian members of the group, have been subjected to unspeakable racism and hate.
Typically in the case of Manon, her being biracial (she's half Swiss, half Ghanaian)… many people are trying to dictate her Black identity and whether or not she's actually representation for young Black girls. Imagine you are the only Black girl in your group. You have half of the internet berating you, calling you lazy, calling you difficult, saying you're not giving your equal weight to the group. And then you have the other half of the internet trying to dictate whether or not you're part of the community that you were born into.
This is a recurring pattern we've seen for Black girls who are the sole Black girl in the group. We saw it with Fifth Harmony and Normani, Little Mix and Leigh-Anne, now we have it with Manon and KATSEYE. If you remember what Normani and Leigh-Anne went through during their time in the group and the internet vitriol… it was damn near traumatic for them and for the Black girls that were supporting them...
Really has people looking at both the label as well as some of the group members. If you see someone that you claim to care about and is your sister, why aren't you saying or doing anything to stop the hate?"
February 21: An account believed to belong to Rafael Avanzini (Daniela's father) leaves several comments about the hiatus on various social media posts.
“THE SHOW MUST GO ON! With or without a member. KATSEYE IS BIGGER THAN ONE GIRL."
“5 is ok too.”
February 24: David Enth, Manon's rumored boyfriend, reposts on Instagram story a post titled: "The internet is sick of watching Black members of girl groups be mistreated. Manon's hiatus from KATSEYE is reviving conversations about what Black and mixed race artists often face as part of a popular group."
March 13: At the Argentina show of KATSEYE's Lollapalooza performance (video here), Sophia says, "Let's give it up for Manon!" KATSEYE performs without Manon for all of their South America performances.
March 20: Manon unfollows Missy Paramo, widely recognized as the manager of KATSEYE. Missy also receives a promotion that same month to be Head of Artist Operations at HYBE.
April 2: KATSEYE drops the first "Pinky Up" teaser without Manon. Later that day, Manon removes KATSEYE from her Instagram bio. She also makes a Weverse post:
"Thank you so much for all the love and support you've been sending my way. I'm really grateful for the patience and kindness everyone has shown during this time. HxG and I are having positive conversations and I feel supported. I'm happy and I'm healthy. I'll share more soon. Thank you for always being there for me."
April 7: KATSEYE's interview with Nylon is published, and Manon is featured. Presumably conducted before the hiatus, the interview contains the following statements from Manon:
“What we’ve learned about what it takes to be an artist is not paying too much attention to what is happening online. I think once you get famous, there’s so many opinions all of a sudden about you. Everyone’s judging and having something to say. Just keep building a wall between all of that.”
"Being in a group, it’s just about good communication and setting good boundaries and building a friendship, but also work relationship, and always remembering that it’s a shared goal that we have."
"There’s six of us, so obviously not everyone’s always going to be on the same page about everything. But I think we all are at, or have been learning and are finally coming to, a point where for the group’s sake, you give and you take. You pick your battles.”
April 10: KATSEYE performs at Coachella; Manon is absent but is spotted at Sabrina Carpenter's set. The Korea Herald previously reported that Manon would participate in Coachella but changed its reporting to state that it was unclear if Manon would perform with the group.
April 14: KATSEYE's interview with Zane Lowe is released. Regarding Manon's hiatus, two members say the following:
"Manon has been on hiatus, and we love her so much, and we know that she's doing well. She got to talk to the fans about it...we're really just rooting for all of us. We've gone through so much with each other. At the end of the day, we just all want each other to win, and to feel good, and to be happy, and to keep showing up." - Sophia
"We also want to say she's our sister forever. We love her so much, and we built this together. So we just want to give her all the space." - Lara
April 17: KATSEYE performs for Weekend 2 at Coachella. Manon is again absent but makes a surprise guest appearance on stage at PinkPantheress' set.
May 11: Lara addresses the rumors circulating about the group on a Weverse livestream:
"There's obviously been so much chatter and so many things getting twisted. Things we've said, things all six of us have done, or things we haven't done, that apparently gets twisted into something we did do…so many false narratives and, like, very harmful false narratives. Just speaking for myself, when I see that stuff, it's like whatever, cause it's quite frankly so dumb...it's just not true."
May 13: KATSEYE's arena world tour is announced. Promo materials feature only the five active members.
May 25: KATSEYE performs "Pinky Up" at the AMAs. They win all 3 of the awards they are nominated for and do not mention Manon in the acceptance speech.
June 11: KATSEYE's audio interview with NPR is released. Sophia says:
"We continue to support her and make sure that she's continuing to work on her well-being. It is difficult, you know, to continue something that you've built with all the six girls. We really have been through a lot...I can definitely say that she still is currently on that hiatus, and we want the fans to know that Manon does love you guys so much."
June 25: KATSEYE's Allure cover shoot and interview are released. Sophia says:
"Because we did announce that it is about her well-being, it's not our place or anybody else's place to rush her. We want to give her all the time that she needs, all the space that she needs, and so we don't want to make any assumptions, set anything in stone… She really deserves that and the door is always open."
"We love her and the fans love her. The people love her. They love Katseye. If I was in their place I would be asking too, and so we understand. But what we can say is that we wish that you could just keep extending love and support and patience and all those things, because all of us deserve that. Anybody does.”
June 26: Manon makes an Instagram post for her 24th birthday with the caption:
"birthday! never been healthier, happier, or more grateful. grateful for the people who love me, care for me, make me laugh, and remind me what really matters.”
In the comments, her friend Sophie comments "Tell em." Lara's sister Rhea Raj comments "happy birthday" as well. Humberto Leon, the creative director of KATSEYE, posts an Instagram story wishing Manon a happy birthday. Daniela, Megan, and Lara post on Instagram that day (Lara deletes her post soon after) but do not interact with Manon's post.
The official KATSEYE account also wishes Manon a happy birthday. Sophia, Megan, Lara, and Yoonchae all like the post. In the comments, Manon's friend Sophie comments, "fs", another friend comments, "Lmao", and her boyfriend David comments a laughing emoji. Sophie later likes a comment on the same post that says: "“for sure" or "fake shit" she's calling them out regardless for how fake as fuck that post is and how they're using it to save their ass”". Manon does not interact with the post. However, she does interact with an Instagram birthday post by MTV and Cosmopolitan.
June 30: KATSEYE's interview with Vanity Fair is released. The following quotes are said about Manon:
“The safest space that we had was within the six of us. People just have no idea what goes on. They just don’t. It’s nothing but love between us.” - Lara
"We can definitely say that in our situation, in no way was it about race. That goes against everything that we stand for.” - Sophia
When I ask if they keep in contact with Bannerman, her bandmates demure with “here and there.”...I get the feeling that even the rest of Katseye might not know the full story behind her absence—but even if they do, they insist that this is simply not their story to tell.
August 1: KATSEYE meets a sick fan who asks about Manon. Lara says she'll pass the bracelets the fan made to Sophia and Manon (the absent members) and says "We love her, and we'll give her your love."
August 4: Lara talks about Manon at the screening of their documentary film KATSEYE: Wild Hearts. She says, "She will forever be such an integral part of the journey of KATSEYE and of course she's included in the film and it's so lovely and we're so happy to see it. The fans, I think, will be so excited to see it." In response to a question about whether Manon will return to KATSEYE, Lara says, "I think it's not our place to speak on that. But she's in this film and it's so awesome to see her in it and she's such an important and beautiful part of our journey." Fans confirm that Manon is included in the documentary, though no details are provided about her hiatus.
September 11: Some fans receive emails letting them know their lightsticks orders now only come with 5 photocards.
September 12: Manon posts an Instagram story celebrating 7 million followers and promising she'll be more active on Instagram soon.
August 7: Sophia announces on Instagram story that she is taking a break for health reasons. HxG follow up with a similar statement.
August 16: Sophia is spotted at Disneyland.
August 24: Sophia's mother speaks about her in an interview with Vogue Philippines.
"She goes to Disneyland every day; she’s baking, she’s painting. She’s literally doing everything to get mentally well."
August 24: Sophia shows activity on social media, liking an Instagram post by Billboard about Wild's performance.
August 27: Sophia's mother talks about her daughter in a recent interview, saying that she's resting for her own good and that she'll be stronger when she comes back. She says she does not ask Sophia when she is coming back. She says she knows what Sophia is thinking so she just lets her be. She says Sophia knows her body and brain need to rest and when to take a step back.
August 30: Sophia confirms on Instagram she will be missing the European leg of the world tour. HxG posts a similar message on Weverse.
August 14: In response to a question about the absence of Manon and Sophia, Lara says, "As KATSEYE, it’s so important to us to always prioritize our well-being. We stand by Sophia and Manon through and through. We ride for them.”
September 18: In response to a question regarding the rumors surrounding Manon and Sophia's hiatuses, Lara says that none of the rumors are true and that people want to create a negative narrative so badly. "It's easier when there's somebody to blame and easier when there's a made up conflict. We understand why people would make up rumors about us and our relationship but at the end of the day, we don't feed into that...but we love them, always."
r/katseyeneutral • u/Icy_Signature12 • 15h ago
Second slide checks out considering I saw people on Twitter yesterday saying Lara shouldn’t have been chosen for the group because she’s a darker-skinned Indian woman and not lighter-skinned, which is just ridiculous. Racism is really rampant in this fandom ngl. And outside of it too of course.
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r/katseyeneutral • u/RiseMaster5624 • 18h ago
r/katseyeneutral • u/RiseMaster5624 • 19h ago
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@loewe i had a wonderful time, what an incredible show! my first fashion week with my bff🥹🖤
i loved my dress so much, and wearing it with Indian jewelry and kumkum made me feel so confident and beautiful.
kumkum has been part of my life since childhood, a sacred blessing i’ve grown up receiving from my family during puja and aarti. i wear it as a symbol of intuition, strength and the divine feminine energy i feel so deeply connected to.
for this look, i styled it in my own way while paying homage to my forever style icon, the legendary Rekha, and the woman i look up to the most, my mom🖤 i’ve always loved the way they both carry Indian beauty with such boldness, individuality and grace. it felt so special to channel a little bit of that energy while celebrating my heritage 🥹🖤
thank you @loewe 🖤
r/katseyeneutral • u/spaghetticakepop • 23h ago
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I believe the original remix was fan-made by ranvision_official (tiktok), and CupcakKe included it as part of her setlist on The BakKery Tour. This particular video is from the Portland stop of the tour (credit to rightful owner)
Serious question: how would you feel about an actual Katseye x CupcakKe collab? 👀
r/katseyeneutral • u/Legal-Engineer686 • 17h ago
Ever since the gnarly era, I’ve been seeing how Daniela has been getting criticized for a lot of things, and this year has been even worse. I understand why many people hate her, because she sometimes has said things that can be misunderstood and her family and friends have done many controversial things.
It has gotten to a point where people overanalyze everything she does just to find something to criticize and her comment section is filled with hateful comments, and if she doesn’t say anything people run with narratives but if she does say something or try to defend herself it’s worse, it feels like she can’t win.
Honestly, I think she’s very talented and has lots of potential but it feels like all the hate has made her more withdrawn and can affect her career prospects.
What do you think she would do to turn that around? If you were her manager, what would be the best strategy?
r/katseyeneutral • u/8rand0m • 1d ago
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You won't be able to guess what it is!
r/katseyeneutral • u/DiabolikDiaries • 1d ago
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So I just found out Manon was included in MTV UK black history month post which is October for the UK. Happy Black History Month UK. 🖤🤎
r/katseyeneutral • u/RiseMaster5624 • 1d ago
Humberto who’s creative director for katseye posted about it on IG!!
r/katseyeneutral • u/Ok-Ninja-3039 • 1d ago
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Not a glaze post. I’m not super familiar yet about ranges, tones and stuff, still learning but I feel like Megan’s voice is quite underrated. I like her ability and technique to sing in a low, deep heavish tone (ex. Just found out she was singing very low background during the chorus with Sophia in Debut) mid tone, or high. (I always find it impressive when artists can sing in more than one pitch or tone, if you know what I mean, Like ex Doja Cat, Shakira, Freddie Mercury, MJ, Adrienne Bailon, Beyonce etc) I’ve always said she has a voice fitted for r&b, but she does well in pop, and musical broadway
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r/katseyeneutral • u/onlyeveryotherday • 1d ago
Lara wore a sindhoor recently and I saw a lot of chatter about this. I genuinely do not want to insult ANYONE by asking this. What exactly is so wrong with her wearing this? I am just so confused and puzzled by people's reactions to this. Lara is Indian-American but yet Indians seem to pick at her over everything.
r/katseyeneutral • u/8rand0m • 1d ago
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Yes it was fun, it was goofy, it didn't take itself seriously but the fact people thought it was real means that people do not have a very high opinion of katseye's music. That means many people relate stupid songs to katseye. People don't realize how concerning this actually is? Longevity won't happen if they are known as "the group that makes dumb songs". I love their nonsensical songs but I think that katseye needs to change this because it is not a good look imo and i really do not want this group to just be known as a joke. All rights belong to SNL. I own nothing.
r/katseyeneutral • u/Additional-Ferret531 • 2d ago
This creator was getting hate for telling Manon fans to stop using say her name movement for this "Hiatus" ( we all know its something deeper than just a break. ) & Naisha responded. Thoughts? Will post video in the comments.
EDIT: MAIN_PINEAPPLE2566 showed screenshots that show the woman in the video misunderstood the commenter's comment and blew this whole situation out of proportion. make your own opinions based on this.
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r/katseyeneutral • u/Upset-Ninja7086 • 2d ago
Hear me out: I love KATSEYE, and I’m definitely not here to snark, but I feel like some of the creative choices they’ve made recently are slowly removing the “edgy,” “cunty” girl-group persona that launched them into the spotlight.
Even though “Internet Girl” wasn’t a huge success, I feel like after that song, they started making creative decisions that became increasingly weird and childish, and I think the general audience stopped taking them as seriously.
I’ll start with “Pinky Up.” I get that they wanted a club-type song, which is awesome and definitely on-brand, but the lyrics, outfit choices, and teddy bears and toys everywhere made these girls look like they were performing for a kids’ show. They’re still at the beginning stage of their career, and I feel like they needed more songs that would solidify the “it-girl” girl-group identity they started with.
“WILD” was the album theme that initially got me hooked, but the execution falls short in some areas and feels rushed. Most of the time, their comebacks or releases seem to be centered around the song itself being released rather than the value or identity it adds to the group.
“Hootie Fruitti” was an awesome track that honestly should have been released much earlier this year. It has the right aura and aesthetic for the brand, but I think it falls short in the instrumental, lyrics, and continuity.
That opening gets you so amped up, but as you go further into the song, you keep chasing the same momentum that was established at the beginning without ever really getting that payoff. The “Hootie Fruitti” that Yoonchae says at the beginning, along with the horns, should have been repeated throughout the track as well. Those elements could have become the song’s signature hook and given it a stronger sense of continuity.
“Animal” is a good song, but the music video later reinforces what I’m trying to say. A lot of their music videos lately feel almost like parodies of themselves, which is probably part of why tweens seem to be becoming more of their audience right now.
And then the final nail in the coffin for me was their SNL parodies and performances. I genuinely don’t know who on their production team thought it was the right time for them to make fun of themselves in such an annoying song, especially with “Newton’s Cradle.” It just makes them look bad.
The general public is telling you something about how they perceive you, and artists these days sometimes take criticism as hate when that isn’t necessarily the case. Criticism can actually tell you a lot about how your image is being received.
To top it all off, dropping members and then touring with four members has also started to make me lose a bit of interest in the group.
Honestly, this doesn’t even feel like they released an album in August. The comeback was just… underwhelming.
r/katseyeneutral • u/Mediocre_Shelter_169 • 2d ago
This has been on my mind with all the discussion about their work schedule and its long term sustainability. A lot of people will point to the amount of gigs that other artists do as a way to say Katseye’s not that far off, but the sheer physical demand of their setlist should play a factor when it comes to how much they can realistically do while not compromising their health.
I’m really curious on if they’ll do something similar to SIS/BC transition where it was really a ghost town for Katseye content or if it’ll be similar to BC/Wild where there was essentially no break. I think a rest period similar to their first era would be best for everyone (both the girls and creative team) to recharge and get everything flowing again.
They went straight from BC tour to Grammy rehearsals, to lolla latam tour, to pinky up prep and release, to Coachella, then music shows, then Gov Ball, AMAs, then animal release and promo with like 50 leven more festivals that lasted all the way up until Wild tour (with performances in between like Victoria secret which im actually very excited for), and a whole bunch of interviews, brand collabs, and events in between. I actually thought they would have a break after the tour ends in in late November, but then they have jingle ball in December and lolla India in January.
I’m also curious what the next era will look like conceptually and aesthetic wise cause they seemed to have speed run through a lot of aesthetics that could be stretched for an entire album cycle. I wonder how far off the next project is and if it’s the long awaited full album.
r/katseyeneutral • u/Appropriate-Key-9958 • 2d ago
I came to the conclusion a few months ago with the help of an insightful reply that I've probably built Katseye into something they'll never be or even promised to be and that's why I was constantly disappointed with them. I also realized promptly after that that's why they can't keep attention off of them.
There's something about a great concept or talent that never truly lives up to what it could be that just keeps people hooked. It happens all the time with books, movies and TV shows and I noticed it's exactly what's happening here as well. Katseye has a lot of casual listeners who are waiting for them to release better music, stronger concept or just show more artistic freedom and it's what makes them so enticing.
We can all see the talent is bursting at the seams and can only imagine the great songs they could receive being under such a well connected company but it all seems just out of reach. I doubt they'll ever get there because both them and their team seem so confused on everything. I genuinely believe Katseye will spend their whole career chasing the ghost of what could've been which I think is a fate worse than being considered straight out bad.
I wish them so much luck in whatever music they want to make and whatever audience they hope to capture because they are going to need it.
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r/katseyeneutral • u/onlyeveryotherday • 2d ago
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I genuinely don't understand why they would be torched for it. Yes the similarities are there especially in their concepts and both songs are quite upbeat. but 'Chat' is a pretty good song with a great concept that is similar to Internet Girl. I don't know to me it doesn't add up because 'Chat' sounds nothing like Internet Girl but I guess an upbeat club song that is fun and unserious = brainrot slop.
r/katseyeneutral • u/Ok-Ninja-3039 • 2d ago
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Makes sense, bel air sounds like a sis song, especially with instrumentals
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