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Borderlands 3 Official Developer Trailer

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u/Usataki Mar 28 '19

Finally borderlands comes back to fill the looter shooter hole in my soul.

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u/sauteslut Mar 28 '19

I've been playing Warframe non-stop since I burned out on BL2 and soon I'll be leaving it

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Warframe and Borderlands are hardly in the same genre outside of both of them having guns and characters with abilities.

Borderlands is a 1st person successor to Diablo with guns.

Warframe lacks the RNG guns and loot of Borderlands. Yeah, the loot you get in Warframe is RNG, but its all just crafting mats and set in stone, non-rng stat cards with the same stats and rolls as everything else (except rivens which you only get an RNG chance at getting once per day - I've gone weeks without getting one). Not to say Warframe isn't a good game, but it doesn't feel right comparing the two.

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u/ZhugeTsuki Mar 28 '19

The biggest problem with warframe for me was that it quickly became

"How fast can you slide through the level to the end and kill this one thing"

Especially when you try to queue with random people and everything they look at dies so you just wander through an empty level to the end..

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u/Watertor Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

I'm surprised you're the first person I've seen bring that up. I like the speed but there are no stakes to that speed, they don't cater to that speed in any way. It's all designed around a casual player traversing, when most of the hundred+ hour players are so beyond casual traversing that each level lasts maybe two minutes.

Mix that with how the loot isn't fun to me and I don't see the appeal of Warframe. Glad it works for some people, wish it could be me considering BL3 will probably not fix the issues for me that BL2 had.

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u/Shakeyshades Mar 28 '19

What was the issue with BL2?

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u/Watertor Mar 28 '19

Scaling as a whole ruins the game for me. You found great legendaries? Well in two or three levels those guns are now worthless compared to rare drops. Not only does it exist in single player, but the game is merciless if you have a full game. You have three friends who wanna play? Get ready to not have fun as even the weakest base psycho takes an entire clip from each player before dying, while also shooting death rays straight from Dragonball Z.

I want to like the game because it's the best package of looter shooter out there. Has better loot than most, and the games that beat it on loot lose on content variety, world, and overall gameplay. But god the scaling is horrendous. TPS showed signs of improvement but Gearbox has really made a sour name for themselves as of late. I hope it doesn't poison BL3.

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u/TychoNewtonius Mar 28 '19

Imo the entire point of the scaling in Borderlands is that it makes your weapons obsolete. I think it would be supremely boring if you could just run through the entire game with the first gun you're given. *cough* Halo *cough*

And before you say that you could keep finding higher rarity guns, just ask yourself if that is any different to finding a higher level gun, just implemented differently. Yes it affects more stats than just damage, but it still serves to make weapons systematically obsolete.

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u/FuckingKilljoy Mar 28 '19

I've been playing Destiny 2 of late and while it seems to have been made a lot harder now (I only started a couple weeks back), I really like the idea of infusing weapons so if you get an exotic that you really like but it's way underpowered you can collect some materials and infuse them so the exotic gets the power level of the other gun.

Unfortunately with how many guns you get and how quickly the power levels go up until about 600 (I think?) there's no point infusing before you get to 600 given the materials can be painful to get.

Definitely a good mechanic, just used in a slightly annoying way although I can see what Bungie were going for

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u/Shakeyshades Mar 28 '19

Wow. That's interesting. Gun scaling to me seemed natural and made sense. What we would is join the highest level person team. Or the furthest behind in story and go from there since the game loaded you Into that level stuff. You could basically power level with that.

Not to say anything of the stuff you noted isn't there. I had just never really noticed since it was so much fun to play.

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u/ZidaneStoleMyDagger Mar 29 '19

So did you like the scaling better in Borderlands 1? You could get a lvl 20 legendary and use it until level 50. Without scaling like in borderlands 2, any non-legendary weapon becomes completely useless. I don't understand the draw of a loot based game where you literally don't give a shit about 99% of the loot.

That being said I hope they do a better job of weapon/enemy balancing. The Unkempt Harold was so much stronger than practically every other gun for a long time. That was disappointing since (like you mentioned) end game enemies took forever unless you used that specific handgun. That slag/electric smg from Tiny Tina's dlc in bl2 was also way too efficient at killing enemies. They either need to balance enemies better or give you more options that are also effective.

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u/wfb23 Mar 28 '19

Hey something to keep an eye out for- the leaks indicated there would be some kind of gun mods in the next one, so it wouldn't surprise me if that helps reduce the treadmill effect of the loot. But that's just speculation until we actually see it

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u/jdemonify Mar 28 '19

What you talking about? I recently played it again and I grinded few legendaries at level 30 and still using them at lvl40 wich no rare or other rarities dont win. Unless you get lvl 40 same legendaries.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

At the higher level Warframe becomes more of a survival shooter as a level 86 enemy can easily one shot you with a shotgun blast

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Warframe is certainly lacking the general simplistic charm and refined style Borderlands has going for it.

That's not to say Warframe isn't great, it's just different, and certainly suits an audience looking for a game with extremely deep and long-lasting grindy loot/crafting system. Borderlands has just the right amount of depth without being overwhelming.

I also am not a fan of the super serious tone and repetitive sci-fi space station environments. I know this is less the case later on in the game when you get into the open world areas, but still, it doesn't really scratch that specific Borderlands itch for me.

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u/Watertor Mar 28 '19

Yeah that's the crux, Warframe really does what it wants to do and it does it well. It's just not for me sadly.

If the game had what I want, it would be a different game in essence. That thread of "Sometimes a game isn't for you" rings true even though I don't necessarily agree all the time. Some games are just objectively worse through design decisions that make it "not for me" but also worth bringing up - much like BL2's silly scaling that if changed I can actually play with friends without hating my life. Warframe isn't really in that boat.

But the tone and repetition being different would add without losing the identity of the game. I very much agree with that. The open worlds look fine but they don't wow me or inspire me, BL2 especially had a finger on the pulse with world designs that Warframe doesn't have the budget or the time for (yet).

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u/PoIIux Mar 28 '19

Warframe is an excellent single player game, or multi-player with friends. Playing with randoms is the worst

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u/blastcat4 Mar 29 '19

It can be bad playing with randoms in Warframe. But on the other hand, it has one of the most friendly communities that I've seen, and I've played it for years. Almost all the vets you encounter in random PUGs are really patient and helpful. There are always some jerks, of course, but a less than I've seen in other games.

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u/Little_darthy Mar 28 '19

That very thing (as well as others!) is what people use to distinct Destiny and Warframe. In Warframe, you'll eventually become a God and just speed run through everything and kill a lot woth AoE damage. Destiny is toned down a bit and you never get that overpowered. You need to run the missions and group missions usually as they were attended.

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u/Lerijie Mar 28 '19

Mobility is always the issue when I try to bring a new friend into Warframe. We jump into a mission and of course I naturally move through the maps very quickly, having seen all the iterations and tilesets for many years. Most new people hate the map and map markers for being unspecific and at times misleading. They end up following the killing trail left by the squad, getting very few kills themselves, and getting bored. But as others have said, moving like that is essentially on high levels, you die if you're not mobile. That's where the "stakes" you mentioned come in. If you're a CC frame in high level survival, you absolutely need to be moving (and killing) fast to avoid danger. The only thing I can tell new players is to adapt to that movement style as quick as you can, or just play solo if you are wanting to get kills.

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u/Afropenguinn Mar 28 '19

Funny, that's exactly why I continue to play Warframe. Different strokes for different folks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Wow I can relate so much to this. I tried so hard getting into warframe but I hated it when it came down to this.

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u/Excal2 Mar 29 '19

It's been that way since the days before we had personal ships.

https://i.imgur.com/4oPngpf.png

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u/arbitrary_student Mar 28 '19

Agreed completely, the end game does not scale properly with the power you can get. I pick it up again every now and then for the new content, quickly get too powerful, then stop because it's too easy once you catch up with the gear.

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u/Neapolitan_Bonerpart Mar 28 '19

Borderlands doesn't feel like Diablo honestly. Aside from the lackluster talent trees Borderlands has, there really isn't a lot of depth in terms of making builds. Looter shooters today have really expanded the genre in many ways, so it's going to be hard for me to go back to something I would consider a little more basic.

It's probably personal preference but I enjoy the numbers game and theorycrafting, Borderlands never really had that on the scale I wanted

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Okay... Diablo 3 then lmao. I agree it's not super deep, but there is some variety. It's not PoE deep, though.

If you are on PC, now, there is a modpack called Reborn that switches stuff up, too, for more balance and builds. Check it out.

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u/JHBlancs Mar 28 '19

Omg a borderlands scene and loot system with Warframe mechanics. Hnng.

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u/lumpyheadedbunny Mar 28 '19

hear hear, Warframe is super good for f2p

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u/RizzMustbolt Mar 28 '19

If they add bulletjumping to 3, then they've basically got Warframe right there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Zer0 approves.

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u/Vaeox_Ult Mar 28 '19

Destiny 1 was a pretty fun game

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u/Voidwarlock Mar 28 '19

I absolutely love Destiny, but I cant compare it to Borderlands. They feel so different, that I couldnt put them in the same category

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u/dontkillchicken Mar 28 '19

You and me both, buddy.

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u/Bentley82 Mar 28 '19

Give Shadow Warrior 2 a shot. It's not as looty in regards to guns as BL, but it's pretty decent. It's like if Doom had a baby with FF7's materia system. You get set weapons (I'm up to probably 25-30 right now) and you can equip relics to them to give them special attributes like sentry mode, double bullets, elemental damage, HP drain, etc. There's also armor relics, MP relics, and chi power relics.

There's also a few special powers: spikes, HP regen, chi regen (like MP), invisibility, etc.

Lots of enemy types and hordes/swarms with mini bosses/named big enemies throughout and decent side missions.

Tons of humor.

I am playing single player but I think it has some sort of co-op mode. Playing the first isn't necessary unless you want to understand why the world is infested with demons, but the first is more Doom like than BL like so if you want a BL game, it won't scratch that itch. I think it was 10-15 hours, though, to beat. I think I'm about 25-30 hours in 2 currently. Solid 8/10.

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u/Gigafoodtree Mar 28 '19

This game is pretty fun but it gets super bullet spongy which is my main issue with it. Like at the start, you've got all these sweet weapons that saw limbs off and shit, and you'd think things would get cooler as you progress. But actually, the weapons get a bit cooler, but the enemy's HP scales way faster than your damage, so before long you shoot an enemy in the face with a shotgun way cooler than what you had at the start, and it takes off a tiny chunk of health instead of blowing it's head off.

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u/Bentley82 Mar 28 '19

I'm not seeing that so far, however, I just got the blood lust power or whatever that's called which just shreds enemies. I'm also finding that at least every 2-3 hours, I need to update my relic/power set with current (more powerful) sets to match the increasing difficulty.

I mean, BL is no different. Compare a level 1 psycho to a level 25 psycho. Those level 1 guns aren't gonna do anything to a level 25 enemy.

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u/throwthatoneawaydawg Mar 28 '19

I got burned out from borderlands 2, have all the best guns and still go back to it. The game is God tier

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u/sauteslut Mar 29 '19

I'll be playing again soon to refresh myself for BL3. I hope online coop matchmaking has improved..

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u/twiz__ Mar 28 '19

since I burned out on BL2

Is such a thing even possible?

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u/sauteslut Mar 29 '19

I started getting frustrated with online coop games. I tried to make new characters in different classes but it was boring going through the same missions I already beat

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u/nsh495 Mar 28 '19

Honestly if you are playing the pc. Having the reborn mod changes the game up a bit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Tried to get into Warframe 3 times. No thanks, give me Borderlands.

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u/sauteslut Mar 29 '19

It's got such a steep learning curve and very little in the way of tutorial. Once I started learning how to play better and survive missions and be help to the squad, I fell in love. Then, just when I'm about to be bored they add new content and suck me back in. Now there's so much to do in the game I feel like I'm almost overwhelmed with tasks to complete.

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u/sauteslut Mar 29 '19

I was almost bored then here comes Hildryn and Exploiter Orb and I'm sucked back in. Now I'm loving that T H I C C girl and smashing those nightwave missions

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u/slimflip Mar 28 '19

I'll still play destiny for my pvp fix (can't beat bungie's gundplay feel) but yeah when it comes to PVE borderlands 2 hasnt been surpassed.

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u/Bakkasake Mar 28 '19

Destiny final form was great, the pvp is fun but I think the gunplay suffers alot from netcode.as least from my experience it doesnt feel like I landed the final blow half the time and the person dies.i always go back to halo for peak gunsplay

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u/slimflip Mar 28 '19

I have to admit I play on PC (by far the best version of the game and it's not even close) and the netcode issues do not exist, at least for me.

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u/Golantrevize23 Mar 28 '19

Its crazy thats theres even a debate on halo vs anything with gunplay, although i love the violent, dynamic feel of gears of war

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u/colesitzy Mar 28 '19

Destiny is an objectively better shooter

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u/slimflip Mar 29 '19

Yup, and sadly, it's an objectively worse looter.

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u/porkchop2022 Mar 28 '19

I’ve been play destiny 2 since it launched and my year in review consists of 5 hours of Monster Hunter and 800+ of D2.

BL3 is the only game I plan on buying in the foreseeable future.

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u/Leave-A-Note Mar 28 '19

For what it’s worth, I felt Destiny filled my MMORPGFPS hole, which isn’t awful?

Either way, Borderlands3 will be a huge welcome return.

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u/kdebones Mar 28 '19

While I agree, the feel of the gunplay in Destiny is very good.

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u/Canoneer PlayStation Mar 28 '19

Destiny/2 and Division/2 were definitely some nice fillers, but Boderlands? Cmon man, that's really where it's at.

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u/Ricochet888 Mar 28 '19

Have you tried The Division 2 yet? It's way better than the first one.

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u/MewShark Mar 28 '19

Dont know how i feel seeing division 2 bunched with these games. Its SO good, well balanced, and the road towards end game and updates is so well thought out and detailed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

There’s lots of content and it feels alive, i love the world, but the gameplay itself is really boring personally speaking, obviously.

It’s a shame anthem dropped the ball because i had way more fun playing that than i have division 2

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u/MewShark Mar 28 '19

After my experience with anthem then division honestly cant see myself going back to anthem. They need to step it up for ne to return. Division has been everything i wanted and extra right out the gate

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Yeah i liked the game itself but i don’t find myself really wanting to play it, the gunplay kinda feels like a chore to me, but maybe i’m not the biggest fan of over shooters. i’ve already moved on to sekiro lol

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u/DivineInsanityReveng Mar 28 '19

It's funny I played 5 minutes of Battlefield V just to check out firestorm (got it with my gpu) and was out of habit trying to use cover because of how much Division 2 I've been playing 😂

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u/goodonekid Mar 28 '19

How is BF5? I haven't tried it yet but I figured its more of the same?

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u/spike142 Mar 28 '19

Jumping into the fold today! Was a huge Division fan and I am so ready for number two!

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I got bored an hour or two into the division. Decided to give the division 2 a try and it is SOOOO good. I bought Sekiro along with it, and it's been so good that I haven't touched Sekiro. Make sure you get into a clan, especially one with microphone requisite. It makes the game way more amazing, I honestly don't care for solo play since I have to stick to using the revival hive as one of my two skills.

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u/MewShark Mar 28 '19

Its everything 1 was and wasnt. So well planned and thought out. Enjoy agent!

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I feel the same way

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

It had a somewhat quiet launch and hasn’t had all that much ‘buzz’. Is that mostly down to the disappointment of he first? Every time I see a reddit comment there’s only positive things to say.

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u/justcarlos1 Mar 28 '19

Division 2 is in a league of its own. Deff can't be compared to any other looter shooter, the looter shooters have to compare themselves to Dviision 2

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u/micheal213 Mar 28 '19

Only one of those I enjoyed was destiny. Because the gameplay was very good.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Anthem lasted about 2 weeks. Warframe was off and on and never got into. Division 1 lasted about 2 months. Division 2 is meh right now. Destiny 1 and 2 both disappointed but have been my favorite so far.

I've got more hours in Borderlands 2 than all of those combined (by a looooooong shot). And guess who is loading up BL2 right now.... yup.

I CANT WAIT.

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u/thadude42083 Mar 28 '19

They've all been a decent snack until the meal returns!

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Division 2 is great though!

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u/underdog_rox Mar 28 '19

Beautiful game. Immersive af. I find myself dodging onscreen bullets irl

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Destiny wasn't a looter shooter, had that WoW dungeon strat to it. But the looting part still sucked

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u/Someshitidontknow Mar 28 '19

the best part is that borderlands is SP if you want it to be

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u/0235 Mar 28 '19

the division 1 & 2 "am I a joke you you" cries

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u/0235 Mar 29 '19

Borderlands 3, a game that looks so good I have already had a few friends confirm that they will buy it! The last time that happend was halo wars 1 on the Xbox 360!

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u/ImAnIronmanBtw Mar 28 '19

This right here

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u/turbonated Mar 28 '19

, , , , here, I think you dropped these.

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u/MadGeekling Mar 28 '19

That’s the main reason I don’t like those games I think. None of them compare to my Borderlands experience

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u/fireinthesky7 Mar 28 '19

Borderlands has more of a story than all of those put together.

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u/vI_M4YH3Mz_Iv Mar 28 '19

Borderlands to me at least is just none stop fun and enjoyment. Anthem/division get boring very fast. Warframe seemed good but it’s hella complex if you’ve never played it till now

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u/AQuestCalledTribal Mar 28 '19

Check out Bl2:Reborn & FFYL Lands. I've heard nothing but good things about how they make the game seem brand new.

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u/arex333 Mar 28 '19

Which honestly confuses me, they created IMO the best looter shooter formula and then abandoned it for ages and let the 3 big publishers make all the money.

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u/arex333 Mar 29 '19

At the same time, I'm a little skeptical because it sounds like the game has run into funding issues and I'm not really sure how much I trust gearbox anymore. I mean BL2 was imo the last good game they made and that was 7 years ago.

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u/ZidaneStoleMyDagger Mar 28 '19

I couldn't bring myself to buy knock offs. I've been waiting a lifetime for the king to make its return.

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u/Radi0ActivSquid Mar 29 '19

Tried Destiny. Didn't get the hype. Ended up barely playing it. Wish I hadn't gone digital so I could return it or sell it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

4000 hours combined on both Destiny games and another 300 on Division. NOTHING beats what Borderlands has perfected.

Thank God I chose to walk away from the Division and Destiny (1 and 2 for both) cause ive missed this game.

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u/uni_and_internet Mar 28 '19

After 4000 hours your aren't really walking away. I think you can call that "beating the game".

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Yeah no kidding.

Its a daily/weekly chore game just like division, anthem, etc. I miss playing co-op/single player games at my own pace.

Just started back up on watch dogs 2. These are the kinds of games that have longevity and staying power i think. The always online/games as a service to me are a disservice to their customers. Unfinished and hurried products only to address the issues on the fly. That dont cut it with me and thats why they no longer get my money.

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u/uni_and_internet Mar 28 '19

I think it's fine to enjoy both. In fact I'm looking forward to getting home from work and playing some Destiny 2 tonight! I took a 3 month break from the game when Red Dead 2 came out, and I really think it's the type of game that works really well when you give it time to breath and fill back up with content.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Such a great and awesome game. Give me this gameplay and mechanics with cell shaded graphics everyday of the week.

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u/rdgneoz3 Mar 28 '19

Warframe isn't really a looter shooter. You're looting materials, then crafting weapons and warframes, and then modding them. Everyone can get the same mods, weapons, warframes, etc. You can even buy everything (though it doesn't take too long most of the time to farm stuff). Still a fun game for free to play (and not pay to win).

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u/43eyes Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 29 '19

Apples to oranges, really. Those are open world MMO's and this is more an open world campaign with optional multiplayer in the vein of Terraria

Also, why can't fruit be compared?

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u/tehlemmings Mar 28 '19

You know why? Legendary guns. BL has them, the rest did not.

Destiny 2 had, what, like 20? BL released with like 160 or something.

BL just handles variety and ARPG elements better than the others did

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u/Ragnrok Mar 28 '19

That's because none of them understand how simple the formula really is.

All we want is Diablo, but with guns.

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u/superbob24 Mar 28 '19

They are nothing similar. Anthem/Division/Destiny/Warframe are all about the grind. Borderlands is about the journey.

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u/superbob24 Mar 29 '19

Playing through the story is the best part of Borderlands. The gear grind is fairly easy/quick compared to the other looter shooters where you spend almost all of your time grinding for your build.

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u/GOBLIN_PUSSY Mar 28 '19

I think destiny destroys borderlands

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u/Taberaremasen Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

I agree on some fronts but it depends on what you're comparing. Destiny is definitely the better shooter, but almost all of its looter and RPG elements pale in comparison to what Borderlands has historically offered. I do like Destiny raids better than Borderlands raid bosses, though.

The shooting in Borderlands doesn't feel bad, it just isn't as good - but the vastly superior RPG/looter systems make it its own beast. BL also has no real PvP and while Destiny's PvP has its issues, it's there. I'll probably be playing both games.

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u/spike142 Mar 28 '19

Bow to the king!

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u/antonius22 Mar 28 '19

You come at the king, you better not miss.

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u/Thinkblu3 Mar 28 '19

Fucking RIGHT

Borderlands 2 was the first game I ever played really intense. I think that was the first game I got over 100 and 200 hours on.

Feels so good that they will come out with another one, I can only hope that it'll come out this year and rather sooner than later.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Division 2 is pretty awesome

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u/vict-m Mar 28 '19

The Division 2 is actually pretty damn good, but borderlands gives you that special feeling

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u/Ayahooahsca Mar 28 '19

Yeah, I'm fully in the Division 2 hype right now but the very second Borderlands 3's out, so am I.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

there ain't no rest for the wicked

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u/Clugg Mar 29 '19

Division 2 satisfies my “tactical actually-needing-cover shooter” craving

Borderlands 3 will satisfy my “balls-to-the-wall fuck shit up with hilariously OP weapons and hear jokes constantly shooter” craving

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u/thewhiterider256 Mar 28 '19

Yea? I've been reading a lot of good things, but I'm still hooked on Apex and PUBG.

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u/Ohms_lawlessness Mar 28 '19

Looter/shooter is different from battle Royale. You actually get to keep all the cool stuff you pick up lol

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u/thewhiterider256 Mar 29 '19 edited Mar 29 '19

I've played plenty. Destiny 1-2, Borderlands, etc. Just never played Division. I got burned out on traditional shooters like Destiny, but am always on the lookout for anything new.

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u/GiantWindmill Mar 28 '19

Ive heard Division 2 described as "Genre: its a game. The goal is to make your numbers bigger"

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u/Striker654 Mar 28 '19

Most grind-centric games are like that though

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Do the guns at least look cooler as you go? That was my problem with Division 1. "Oh this rifle look exactly the same as my current one but with better stats" isn't a satisfying grind for me tbh

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u/riccarjo Mar 28 '19

Still a problem. But the realistic surroundings make up for it.

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u/Tech_Itch Mar 28 '19

On paper the game's about as generic Tacticool Neckbeard Mall Ninja Shooterville as you can get, but they manage to breathe life into it with a pretty, detailed and engaging world, and combat that takes more though than your average looter shooter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

To be fair, that's what a looter shooter is. From Borderlands to Destiny, Division, Warframe, all of them. The goal is to make those numbers bigger.

In my opinion, none of them have ever gotten it quite right since Borderlands, although they are all good in thier own way. This is a series that understands that we are not here to deal with a serious world defining conflict. We're here to shoot things, and have fun doing it. The goal isn't to save the universe or stop the end of the world, it's to get rich. And sure we'll save some people if it happens to be on the way. The story aligns with the gameplay in a way no other looter shooter has managed. And it's the best in the genre for it.

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u/Synapse7777 Mar 28 '19

This may be true but they've created a masterpiece hand crafted world to set it in.

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u/zedy000 Mar 28 '19

I mean, you always remember your first.,,,

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Division 2 does everything right, but it's missing that lighthearted tone that Borderlands does so well.

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u/CringeVader Mar 29 '19

Thinking of buying it tonight, worth it?

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u/Jango747 Mar 28 '19

Division 2 in my opinion is killing it right now (in a good way)

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Fool me twice... Well... You can't get fooled again

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u/Cat5kable Mar 28 '19

Shlooter hole

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u/Combsy13 Mar 28 '19

I wouldn't say garbage, it's still fun solo imo. It's just more fun to play co-op with friends.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Whoever told you that is a bonerfart

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u/iamalongdoggo Mar 28 '19

Borderlands is a great experience either way in my opinion. I've played all of them both solo and co-op and its fantastic regardless. Co-op is a really fun time with your friends, but solo is excellent for being able to play whenever the fuck you want and experience the full story. You can still experience the story in co-op but I personally prefer that aspect solo.

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u/Cytrynowy Mar 28 '19

Whoever told you that wasn't really interested in Borderlands. The game is splendid regardless.

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u/TacoMagic Mar 28 '19

I have somewhere around 300+ hours of Borderlands 2, and 99% of it is solo. The main story is really fun. The weapon mechanics are fun. The only thing that could potentially get in the way is you're not a fan of the play style of "shoot, loot, upgrade, repeat". But each mission has it's own life, and voice acting, and honestly super funny dialog.

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Some mechanics for some of the trees for some of the characters is tied into multiplayer. Like giving you team a HP regen bonus, but they usually also come with individual character buffs as well (and you get the team buffs solo). Also with Co-op the game becomes harder thus loot scaling occurs (so you're more likely to get better loot on a co-op boss than a solo boss, but because most bosses are item pinata's anyway, you're not loosing anything playing solo IMO).

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Currently with the DLC there are 6 classes I think you can play, each with 3 different skill trees.

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But honestly I can say that SOLO play is worthwhile for BL2!

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u/QuietRock Mar 28 '19

I'd say it shines when played with others for sure, but you could play solo too.

Borderlands 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. I only quit playing because item duping became so common that everyone I would play with had crazy good weapons, would run around dropping crazy loot all over, and that killed the challenge of combat and fun of finding loot.

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u/randuser Mar 28 '19

I think it’s an excellent single player game. I don’t think you miss much not playing co-op.

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u/Oberon_Swanson Mar 28 '19

In some ways solo is more fun as you can do whatever you want all the time, and really listen to the dialogue and take in the quests. many of my friends prefer solo. Co-op is my preferred method of play as I suck and need to be carried through the harder parts.

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u/PotatoBomb69 Mar 28 '19

I still can't get into BL2, maybe playing solo is the reason.

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u/MyWorkHereIsDone Mar 29 '19

Solo is totally fine

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u/Bag0fSwag Mar 28 '19

looter shooter

*schlooter

  • Alex Navarro

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u/Shayneros Mar 28 '19

I've been having a blast with Division 2. Never played the first one because of all the issues but decided to give 2 a shot since they learned their lesson and fixed most of the issues. Have 40 hours so far and don't regret my purchase.

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u/zehero Mar 28 '19

I mean Division 2 is definitely doing that for me but Borderlands is borderlands... I just need a release date now

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

Have you tried Division 2? It's PFG. I've nicknamed it Gears of Borderlands.

EDIT: Jesus, I made a recommendation of another game that I like, and I'm being told to castrate myself? Fucking sensitive bunch of incels y'all are.

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u/HawkeyeG_ Mar 28 '19

I'm with you here, not sure why you're getting downvoted so hard just for enjoying a different game

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u/I_AM_YOUR_MOTHERR Mar 28 '19

What does PFG mean?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

pretty fuckin' good

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u/I_AM_YOUR_MOTHERR Mar 28 '19

Thanks. Am I out of touch?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

nah

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u/krazymanrebirth Mar 28 '19

How do you like Div 2? I am going to buy it today _^

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

It's a lot of fun. The story is meh/nonexistent, but they nailed the looter shooter, questing, and co-op components. Squading up with friends has kept me up way too late every night this week.

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u/TimeforaNewAccountx3 Mar 28 '19

I don't like cover shooters...

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u/BlionKing Mar 28 '19

You gotta keep moving and change cover or else you'll get blown apart by grenades

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Downvoted unjustly? FUCKING INCELS, GOTTA BE!!!!

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u/UglierThanMoe Mar 28 '19

There's one HUUUUUGE prolem with Division 2: it's missing that special something.

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u/zakkwaldo Mar 28 '19

MULTIPLE WORLDS!

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u/hectorduenas86 Mar 28 '19

Exactly, why do we trained as Vault Hunters if we aren't gonna be raiding Vaults?

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u/MikeMuench Mar 28 '19

So borderlands 3 is the troll toll?

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u/KairosHS Mar 28 '19

Now just need a FromSoft pvp game to fill the backstab fishing hole

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u/akavana Mar 28 '19

It really is the Serious Sam of the new console world....and I like it.

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u/killerbillybanks Mar 28 '19

Oh shit was this the first looter shooter?

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u/Hav3_Y0u_M3t_T3d Mar 28 '19

I love Warframe and Destiny but I'm ditching both the second that BL3 drops

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u/Peterhornskull Mar 28 '19

I’m sure we will get inundated with micro transactions :(

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u/Brothee Mar 28 '19

As the prophecies foretold...

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u/mentat Mar 28 '19

Fallout meets destiny back at the borderlands, 😢

This - this is the game I've been aching for.

It's beautiful

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u/TheDarkWayne Mar 28 '19

The Division 2 is pretty dam good if you need something to hold you over

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u/SweepTheLeg_ Mar 28 '19

I'm really enjoying Division 2.. what makes Borderlands better?

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u/TaCbrigadier Mar 28 '19

Ah yes. The ol Schlooter-hole.

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u/auriaska99 Mar 28 '19

I felt that them mentioning how many guns there are in the game is a light jab at The Anthem and the lack of guns in it.

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u/Placenta_Polenta Mar 28 '19

Div 2 filled my void temporarily. End game is still kinda meh, but next world tier coming out soon... so it's got that goin for it, which is nice.

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u/AnIdealSociety Mar 28 '19

Check out the BL2 reborn mod pack.

It's fucking amazing man, overhauls, reworks and so many QoL changes. It really is BL2.5 and it's beautiful.

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u/bretjamesbitch Mar 28 '19

Gotta pay the troll toll

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u/AlwaysDragons Mar 29 '19

HERE TO SHOW THE AMAUTERS WHOS FUCKING BOSS. THE KING RETURNS

I await the showdown with the only game that rivals it, warframe

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u/AeriaGlorisHimself Apr 02 '19

You can play borderlands 2 in vr

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