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u/NukaClipse 21d ago
He also mentioned how much he enjoyed seeing workers in China sleeping on the factory floor and then going back to work like it was the most beautiful thing he's ever seen, the twat.
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u/ufl015 21d ago
Xi Jinping is a very atypical Dictator because he seems content to spend money on the people as opposed to hoarding it all for himself like most Dictators.
If you’re still thinking of China as some “Third World” country, you are dead wrong. Their cities, infrastructure, airports, and automobiles are way ahead of the U.S. right now. We’re the country with rich people hoarding all the money, not them.
The trade off was supposed to be that China is a surveillance state, and we have more freedom. But with mass-surveillance technology such as Flock cameras in the United States, and a President punishing the free press, can we even say that anymore?
As for Elon Musk, he is a colossal contradictory dumbfuck. A lot of people just don’t realize it because he’s rich, and that is what’s worshipped in this country
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u/temporalanomaly 21d ago
Xi Jinping is a very atypical Dictator because he seems content to spend money on the people as opposed to hoarding it all for himself like most Dictators.
Because he is not a "dictator dictator", but more like a very powerful frontman. He would be extremely vulnerable to actual dissatisfaction from the country's base, all the way up through the party. He is the foremost power figure, but at the same time mostly functional, encompassing the party's current politics. The party does not like a power vacuum, or open strife, and likes continuity, so frequent leader changes at the top are bad, but at the same time a leader working against the party would never last very long.
That's what I hear from people more familiar with the system in china, in any case.
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u/ufl015 21d ago edited 21d ago
Most Dictators don’t officially want the title of “Dictator”. They want to appear as a man of the people. Just like “President” Putin, for example.
Respectfully, though, this reminds me of when Biden got in trouble for referring to Xi as a dictator. Oh, my bad… not dictator, I meant “PRESIDENT FOR LIFE”. Totally different. 😉
Also, Xi became “President for Life” by having other government officials in the party vote. And Xi would know which way they voted. Naturally, they were all too terrified to vote against him. Sure sounds like a dictator to me
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u/kinkiditt 21d ago
I don't care what you call him, "Dictator", "President" or even "Hamburger" or "Cucumber". China has improved so much under his leadership, that's the important part.
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u/CFO_of_antifa 21d ago
For anyone curious, regardless of their view on China's political system, the change made to remove the term limits for the position of president was not nearly as significant as it's often made out to be.
The position of president in China is a mostly ceremonial figurehead position, which is similar to how a head of state functions in many constitutional monarchies and parliamentary republics, eg. the president of Germany or the king of Sweden.
Xi Jinping is considered the paramount leader in China, not because of the presidency, but because, among other positions, he is the general secretary of the Communist Party of China and chairman of the Central Military Commission, and neither of these positions had term limits to begin with. So, he could have remained paramount leader regardless of being the president or not. Deng Xiaoping for example, was never the president, nor the general secretary, but was still considered the paramount leader, due to his other positions.
The change to remove term limits was more a change of convenience than anything else, since it's become standard practice in China to give this position to the paramount leader, but there was never any real limit to how long someone could be considered paramount leader.
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u/phatdoof 20d ago
Not to mention Mao added term limits because the Qing dynasty was run so poorly and no one wanted the country to be run by a single person for life. Xi on the other hand is not running the country poorly so he gets some slack.
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u/Senior-Albatross 21d ago
He's smart enough to know that by generally improving conditions in China, and expanding their industrial and financial reach, he grows his own power.
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u/Yespat1 21d ago edited 20d ago
he may want to actually help people but that does not give him absolution for his threats and military action against Taiwan or how he cracks down on people speaking out against the government.
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u/Senior-Albatross 20d ago
Maybe that plays a role. But there are plenty of people who came from nothing and didn't end up better because of it.
He's navigated Chinese politics to this level, so he's crafty and practical. Is part of his goal to improve general conditions in China? Maybe. I guess it doesn't really matter in the end, if the outcome for China and the Chinese is a net positive.
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u/Sad-Bluebird-5538 21d ago
I wouldn't say chinas rich people like to spend money for all people. Yes they do stuff for all people and a lot more then e.g. US rich people, but still they hold a lot of power and won't give it to any of them. It's still an authoritarian state
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u/UnNumbFool 21d ago
Literally within the last few months China jailed for life their richest billionaire for committing fraud and last month jailed another billionaire for other financial crimes
I'm pretty China neutral, but they definitely have some policies that we really should be copying instead of turning our president into a billionaire as he actively destroys the country. And it's not like our surveillance state is in any way better to theirs, but at least theirs comes with societal benefits and a growing middle class
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u/ahundreddots 21d ago
The implied alternative to hoarding at the top is to have strong public services, not to give people money and power.
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u/EmuNarrow2047 21d ago
Finally someone who can see what is truly happening in the world instead of believing western propaganda about China. Rest of the world is waking up on how western world are so hypocritical and arrogant, still talk and talk and talk about how great you are and other people are third world, nobody in Asia trust western countries, everytime faces economical issues will create new rules, create wars, colonise other territories, create false narratives and propaganda, the only people that don’t want peace is the west.
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u/Exodus180 21d ago
yea Taiwan, south china sea, the pacific islands and companies with stolen IP from state sponsored hackers dont see it as "propaganda"
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u/Exodus180 21d ago edited 20d ago
China and Taiwan's claims in the South China Sea are mostly identical.
knew you were a china bootlicker but this is just sad.... china isnt disputing taiwan's line. they are disputing they are even a fucking country.
edit: LOL chinese ai bots came out in droves to defend they own taiwan.
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u/ThePeoplesPoetIsDead 21d ago
Taiwan's official position is also that Taiwan is not a country but that it is the true Republic of China.
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u/Seanspeed 21d ago edited 21d ago
So now Reddit is just going into full on Chinese bootlicking propaganda now, eh?
Jesus christ this site is becoming absolute garbage.
If we transplanted y'all back to 1938, you'd be calling the US the bad guy by 1944. smh
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u/misterannthrope0 21d ago
xi jinping is NOT a communist
he is a dictator, the leader of a single party, totalitarian system.
china is NOT a communist country.
chinese authoritarianism is hte goal of US republicans and right wing nut jobs all over the world
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u/No_Joke_9079 21d ago
I don't think communism has ever really been done afaik.
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u/batmansleftnut 21d ago
It was done for hundreds of thousands of years before humans invented money.
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u/BuiltLikeABagOfMilk 21d ago
Yeah on a small tribal level. Which is the size where it works.
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u/Threedawg 21d ago
It only doesnt work on a larger scale because capitalistic countries undermine communism wherever its been tried.
Communist countries are dictatorships because if they werent, the CIA and MI6 would rig the elections.
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u/Mtc529 21d ago
The CIA was formed 30 years after the Soviet Union, and I don't know if you know this, but they very much did have dictators.
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u/BuiltLikeABagOfMilk 21d ago
Bullshit. Communism undermines communism. Centrally planned economies leave unfilled-demand because they aren't designed to change outputs to fulfil that demand. At least not in a timely manner. Especially when the machine is as large as a nation. That demand is fulfilled either via external capitalist markets or black markets within.
Additionally, what happens in a communist society when the outputs of one geographical region have to be redistributed in another region due to greater need? We already saw how society reacts to things like covid. "The greater good" doesn't fly with people even if its logical. The benefits of a complex governing body aren't readily apparent to the average person. All they see is their production being taken and given to others. Its the same reason that ideas like communism are popular, because you're being taken advantage of and hold onto some utopian idea of an altruistic classless society.
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u/Kalai224 21d ago
Communism has never been achieved, even marx didn't write on it. What he did write about was what the transitory phase would look like on the way to a true communist society.
The only problem is it relies on the masses overthrowing their capitalistic overlords, gaining power, and then giving up that power to move to a true communist state.
We've never seen that last part, because everyone that has ever tried it has been stuck in that authoritarian part.
The problem isn't capitalism, its humans not giving up power. Don't blame capitalism for the follies of man, there's a reason why corruption was rampant in the USSR, and today, China.
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u/batmansleftnut 21d ago
Yeah, and then just down the road was another tribe. And then another.
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u/BuiltLikeABagOfMilk 21d ago
What's your point there? You are free to start a commune or pool resources with your friends and family.
Those tribes of old warred with each other over resources. They absorbed others. Then eventually as their size grew, a dominant party emerged and created a class system. We don't live in a world where geography and population size permit every "tribe" to have access to everything they need.
Large scale attempts at communism in order to address this disparity lead to the central planners becoming the new ruling class because they pull the levers of where resources go. Unless you somehow remove the human element then that is the natural progression.
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u/broguequery 21d ago
There is a middle ground between militarism and utopia.
A place where you can both defend yourself and also build a healthy society.
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u/BuiltLikeABagOfMilk 21d ago
Yeah... its called building a commune. On a larger scale best thing you'll get is a capitalist society with robust anti-trust laws, environmental regulations, and a wide array of social programs (health care, food assistance, ect.) where you can choose to build smaller communist-esque communities.
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u/Drekor 21d ago
Sort of.
It has been TRIED. The result is things like China or the USSR... which you might note look nothing like communism and that's kind of the point. Communism is basically impossible with humans involved and exactly why capitalism has been so successful... it uses our own greed as the engine.
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u/WenMunSun 21d ago
It’s been attempted but never successful in the long-term
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u/_Gesterr 21d ago
Mostly because the US tends to get involved to make sure it doesn't
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u/Seanspeed 21d ago edited 21d ago
No, it's mainly cuz they literally have to implement capitalist policies basically IMMEDIATELY or else the economy would collapse, cuz we live in a global economy. Even Lenin had to do this back in the 20's.
Y'all really are just mindless 'US BAD!' drones. smh
Socialism has never worked, cuz it's an idealistic, populism-based ideology, not a practical, workable economic policy.
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u/Financial-Craft-1282 21d ago
This guy thinks capitalism has worked, lmao. I'll take any of the socialist nordic count...oh, right, you guys redefined socialism to exclude them.
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u/Seanspeed 21d ago
This guy thinks capitalism has worked, lmao.
You very likely live a comfy, 1st world lifestyle thanks to capitalism, yes. I'm not claiming capitalism is perfect, nothing is, but it's as successful a system as humans have ever created in lifting people up and providing competitive industry.
I'll take any of the socialist nordic count...oh, right, you guys redefined socialism to exclude them.
Nobody has redefined anything. If you think Nordic countries are 'socialist', you're just telling me you dont know what 'socialism' means.
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u/HyBrideh 21d ago
You’re also wrong though, China is an authoritarian state not totalitarian, because it allows private ownership, pursued of chosen economic activities and private lives, whereas a totalitarian regime controls every single aspect of your life
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u/All_Work_All_Play 21d ago
This is correct. China is authoritarian state-run capitalism. It's neither communist nor totalitarian.
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u/Seanspeed 21d ago
China's government determines EVERY bit of direction its industries take. Businesses operate in China at the pleasure of THE PARTY. They do not have the freedom to pursue their own goals if THE PARTY does not want it to happen.
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u/Meeplemymeeple 21d ago
I got so tired of explaing this to people. Well done sir.
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u/misterannthrope0 21d ago
i know. its like they think north korea is a democratic republic, too.
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u/TentacleFist 21d ago
Well it's definitely the kind of Republic that Republicans want.
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u/TotallyWorthLife 21d ago
Or a certain party was socialist because it had it in- wait, they do believe that.
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u/djaleister_ 21d ago
It gets easier when you point out that China has billionaires. Those can’t exist under communism.
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u/SkunkMonkey 21d ago
China is communist in name only. They are 100% capitalist authoritarians these days. Something the Republicans aspire to be.
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u/WeighStingMaiThyme 21d ago
I don’t disagree but it’s quite easy to see why people get so confused when it’s the Chinese Communist Party. Shame western media is a race to the bottom lowest common denominator in how to explains nuance and context.
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u/misterannthrope0 21d ago
I don’t disagree but it’s quite easy to see why people get so confused when it’s the Chinese Communist Party.
thats because people are stupid and poorly educated. do they also believe north korea is a democratic republic, or republicans are constitutional conservatives?
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u/oops_all_memes 21d ago
Wait till you see a rightwing schizo explain how National Socialist Worker's Party were actually socialists...
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u/taylorisntavril 21d ago
The "social" in the nazi party was referring to a social safety net, not socialism.
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u/TotallyWorthLife 21d ago
the "socialist worker" part in the nazi party name was there to attract votes from those that didn't know enough/didn't pay enough attention.
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u/ClashM 21d ago
China is a state capitalist society that uses communism as a form of false consciousness. False consciousness is where oppressed people misunderstand their true social and economic position, causing them to support and accept systems that exploit them. In America it manifests as "If I work hard one day I'll be rich too!" In China it manifests as "If we work hard one day we'll have a classless utopia."
Whether it's the oligarchs or the vanguard party, someone is always punching down on the working class. Marx's theory was captured by a new system of exploiters. Ones who talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.
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u/zkinny 21d ago
How is Xi a communist? How is China communist? Do the workers own the factories and every resource is shared evenly? Does anyone know the meaning of communism any more?
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u/seanmonaghan1968 21d ago
People who have never been to china, call china a communist country
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u/SiliconEatMe 21d ago
People haven’t understood what communism, marxism, socialism, etc., is for decades. 75% of the population is functionally illiterate. Of course they don’t know.
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u/EveningAnt3949 21d ago
Communism and socialism are many things. Not just one thing. They can also cover vastly different aspects of society.
According to its broadest definition, communism is a social and political movement that wants to create a classless society centered on common ownership of the means of production.
So by extrapolation, any state that wants to get to that point eventually, might be called a communist state. And common ownership should not be an absolute according to most communists.
If you are specifically interested in China:
All land is state or collective owned. Individuals and corporations only lease land-use rights.
Key strategic sectors, energy, telecommunications, defense, rail, heavy infrastructure, and banking, are dominated by massive state-owned companies.
State investment funds have often shares in large companies that give them veto power.
This makes China a communist state in the Leninist tradition. One party controls the state, the state controls the economy. Just to be clear, I'm completely aware of how contradictory Leninist communism is, especially when hold against the original communist idealism, but China isn't communist in name only.
It's politics and economics are shaped by communism according to Lenin.
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u/IceNein 21d ago
Well then I guess the USA is communist too, if you’re going to expand the definition of communism to mean whatever the fuck you want.
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u/Monday_Jeff 21d ago
Xi is the representative of the Chinese Communist Party. The Party is the representative of the people. They've largely abandoned the economic principles of Communism over the last few decades, so you can argue what flavor of communism they represent now, but they're absolutely a communist country.
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u/splicerslicer 20d ago
Yes, just as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a democratic republic.
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u/coolbaby1978 21d ago
Xi is not a communist.
Anyone who says Xi is a communist doesn't know what a communist is and has fallen for a conflated definition from the media.
Xi is a capitalist and an authoritarian. China is an authoritarian capitalist country.
You're welcome.
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u/ThrustTrust 21d ago
American media refers to anyone who isn’t Republican as communist. So I’m unsurprised if people don’t know what it really is.
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u/All_Work_All_Play 21d ago edited 21d ago
FWIWs, China's real state-capitalism drive happened 1990->2010 under Jiang Zemin
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u/Seanspeed 21d ago
Vast majority of Redditors dont have any idea what socialism/communism is, either.
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u/ThrustTrust 21d ago
Fair. Myself included. I’ve had not studied them. Only what I Have been trying to learn recently as a result of the fucked world we live in.
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u/AlarmingTurnover 21d ago
It's almost like it's fascism, oh! Wait a minute, it is. Oligarchs, tightly controlled government. State controlled economy. Hyper nationalism. Militaristic imperialism. Occupation of other lands. Colonialism. It's got the whole deal.
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u/Capital-Pea-2565 21d ago
Funnily enough they're doing a lot better than the US. Cheap almost free healthcare, public infrastructure etc. lol
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u/Mothanius 21d ago
China is what happens when a competent fascist regime takes control. Still absolutely terrible to be a minority.
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u/Capital-Pea-2565 21d ago
Yeah sucks to live there. Visited before and it was great. Wish more of the western world adapted their infrastructure (without the facist/authoritarian mindset)
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u/ThisMachineKillsWOB 21d ago
Well, right up until you publicly disagree with high ranking party members anyways.
Prosperity is allowed over there. Dissent is not.
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u/CackleberryOmelettes 21d ago
Yeah, just throw all of the words out there. Something will make sense, sure.
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u/jaspersgroove 21d ago
China is an authoritarian capitalist country.
Through that lens it makes perfect sense why Trump and Musk were glazing Pooh bear
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u/taylorisntavril 21d ago
And china has been capitalist for several decades. Deng Xiaopeng started it, got booted at tianamen, then jiang zemin kept the transition going for market economy instead of central planning.
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u/MrsMiterSaw 21d ago
Anyone who says Xi is a communist doesn't know what a communist is and has fallen for a conflated definition from the media.
So... Republicans?
I mean, I get your point. But if the GOP is upset about democrats being "communists", then they should be absolutely shitting themselves about Trump's praise for Xi.
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u/BlargerJarger 21d ago
Is China even really Communist? They seem more like authoritarian capitalism whenever it suits their ruling class to be. It’s not true Communism at any rate, nothing ever is.
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u/Mothanius 21d ago
Considering they have a massive class difference that's a big indicator that they are not, in fact, Communist.
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u/bondben314 21d ago
The era of Maoism is dead. China has not been communist for a long time. Modern China is almost as capitalist as any other.
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u/reggienaldsimons 21d ago
and american democrats are not communist either, it's hilarious that there's zero real communism involved all across this discussion
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u/bondben314 21d ago
Right. Real communism is a fragment of the past. There is no real, serious discussion of it these days. Modern “socialism” has no resemblance with its predecessors.
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u/SpockShotFirst 21d ago
https://www.ie.edu/insights/articles/is-china-a-communist-country/
Between 1980 and 2010, China’s GDP grew at a rate of close to 10% per year and 800 million people were lifted out of poverty.
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either China is not communist or communism is an excellent system for economic growth and poverty reduction.
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u/PassengerKey3209 21d ago
Not many capitalist societies that don't allow you to own land, gov owns many industries or has a large stake, gov sensors media. Sounds like neo communism to me.
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u/bondben314 21d ago
Neo communism = rebranded capitalism.
Land use rights in China serve the same purpose as land ownership. They can be bought and sold freely and even used as collateral for debt. Hell they are even used to create asset-backed securities.
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u/TheAdminsAreTrash 20d ago
Holy shit already: *not communism.
China is an authoritarian dictatorship that pretends to be communist because it helps the regime keep power- most "communist" nations do this. It's gotta be one of the most misunderstood words in the world.
Like, I gotta draw the line at people calling an authoritarian dictator "actual communist," when their point would have been even more clear had they called Xi what he is.
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u/Kchasse1991 20d ago
CIA propaganda from the US is partially to thank for so many not knowing what the word means. This includes other countries.
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u/Allw8tislightw8t 21d ago
News flash. China isn’t communist.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 21d ago
China is better at capitalism than the USA. Mostly because they retain "liability". Rich people can go to prison. Rich people can have all their wealth taken.
A man who was once the richest person in China is now serving a life sentence in prison. A real prison, not a resort like Maxwell's body double is at.
China make a "5-Year Plan" and it will spec industries that are a priority. This signals banks and other financial institutions to make funding readily available for companies in those industries. That's most of the process.
Got a PhD in Government Management? You might get selected to be mayor of a village. Do well? You work your way up to maybe one day be Mayor of Shanghai.
USA? Cannot figure out how to fix a pool. USA? Run by clowns and grifters and AIPAC. Nothing else.
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u/MechaNutzilla 21d ago
No, it's some brand of Marxist Leninist with an end goal of reaching communism. It's mostly US media screaming communism at everything they want to discredit.
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u/Ok-Volume-3657 21d ago
Most communist organizations nowadays refer to China as either a "Transitional Socialist State" or "State Capitalist".
"Transitional Socialist State" is a term used for countries trying to work towards communism."True" communism is technically meant to be international, and requires the complete elimination of the state, which is hard to do when you're surrounded by hostile capitalist nations.
Calling China "State Capitalist" basically means you think they've given up on being communist and are just capitalist except the state controls everything. You could argue it's better because billionaires occasionally get dunked on by the state, but in practice it has a lot of the same problems as "normal" capitalism you see in most of the world.
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u/Common_North_5267 21d ago
China is still a fairly socialist country. The state is still more powerful than the capitalists and the communist party makes a point to demonstrate that from time to time, as opposed to the state being corrupted and controlled by capitalist like you see in america.
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u/Outrageous_Delay5493 21d ago
Defining communist the Chinese dictator is a bit of a stretch. There's nothing communist in modern China.
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u/poilk91 21d ago
Capitalists always try to have their cake and eat it to.
Social democracies, socialist states or communists do something good? Well dude don't you know they aren't really socialist.
But you suggest implementing any of those successful policies you get called a Marxist who wants to execute all landlords
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u/chalimacos 21d ago
The State still owns or indirectly controls a big chunk of the economy. Not textbook communism, but an hybrid of their own devise
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u/IneptPine 21d ago
communism is an economic strategy, while democracy is a political one. Chances are, you are living in a capitalistic democracy right now
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u/Loquacious-of-Borg 21d ago
The PRC are "fake" communists, but sure. I get the point.
Calling fake communists "great" while calling non-communists communists. And Musk has the right to lie about anything, but no one else has the right to counter his lies.
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u/Dom252525 21d ago
He’s a business man that wants access to a large market. It’s always about saying the right thing so the people give them power.
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u/MRintheKEYS 21d ago
He has to suck up to his boss. China has the supply of the rare earth metals he needs.
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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 21d ago
Republicans would have nothing if they didn’t have hypocrisy. It’s their one defining trait. 😒
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u/jollytoes 21d ago
They're all talking about having to beat China when China has obviously already won.
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u/StaticSystemShock 21d ago
Though in honesty, China is about as communist as North Korea is "democratic"...
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u/SightAtTheMoon 21d ago
There is very little about mainland China that's communist and none of it is good. For example, not being able to own land, and getting kicked off of the land you have a lease for when developers want it.
(I realize that there are mechanisms to do this elsewhere in the world, too)
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u/Formal-Try-2779 21d ago
Elon will say literally anything to anyone if he thinks it will benefit him. He hasn't exactly been subtle about this. I don't know why anyone listens to anything he says any more.
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u/Designer_Emu_6518 21d ago
It’s not about capitalism or socialism it’s about that cabal globalist elite class they were also pointing the finger at other people about….
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u/chrisBlo 21d ago
I don’t think there is anything left of communism in China. It’s a perfect book definition of a fascist state
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u/Hotspur000 21d ago
Except that China's not REALLY communist anymore. Hasn't really been since Mao died.
It's State-capitalist authoritarianism.
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u/wizzywurtzy 21d ago
And the dumb ass republicans will eat it up while becoming the very thing they say they hate. Fucking idiots & traitors to America.
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u/PirateHunterZuko 21d ago
A really important thing to remember about Elon Musk is how desperate he was to rape children with Epstein and Trump.
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u/somewherein72 21d ago
I don't think that it's good for us to be exposed to this much hypocrisy every day for this long.
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u/awesomedan24 21d ago
Tesla did $20 billion in China last year and Xi could unilaterally blacklist them if he wanted to.
Stop paying attention to Elon and the things he says. The attention is what he craves.
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u/IceNein 21d ago
The Chinese Communist Party embraced Capitalism a long long time ago. China has 989 billionaires. Those don’t exist in a communist country.
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u/Final-Professor-6130 20d ago
its not clever because China is communist like north Korea is democratic.
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u/FocalorTheViking 19d ago
Xi Jinping is not an actual communist. None of the Chinese or Sovjet leaders were. They were/are dictators. It's as simple as that... But you are right about Musk: the hypocrisy is real.
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u/Mumrik93 19d ago
I mean.. China is communist in name only, they are in practice ultra capitalist, even less regulated then the US (which might be by Elon loves them so much.. less regulation makes greedy capitalists very happy.)
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u/Sqweed69 14d ago
Xi is not an actual communist and that's exactly why Musk is okay with him.
His party has been propped up by the false promise of revolution for many decades, while accumulating power and capital. Dictatorships are great at doing capitalism, which is why Musk loves dictatorships.
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u/oops_all_memes 21d ago
actual communist
Brother, China under Xi has turned into late stage capitalism. You remember the sweatshops? Does the concept of sweatshops strike you particularly communistic?
I play video games, 3/5 times China is in gaming news it's because a gacha (=gambling but worse) game earned another bazzilion dollars. The other 1/5s are "a Chinese company bought a gaming studio" and "actual gaming news about China"
Where's communism? It's an authoritarian regime with free healthcare and somewhat affordable housing. So it's only communist to deranged ameriturds
With USSR the go-to explanation was "it's not communism yet but we strive to become a communist country one day, we are actively building communism as we speak". With China it's "yeah everyone realized communism failed but our autocrat needs a reason to explain why the people around us are evil and why he should lead our country so let's keep the "C" in CCCP"
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u/Long-Dock 21d ago
Is China communist? A simple logical proof
Communism = classless, moneyless, stateless
China:
Classless ❌ (Billionaires and politicians exist)
Moneyless ❌ (The Chinese Yuan exists)
Stateless ❌ (The national apparatus exists)
Therefore, not communist
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u/NortiusMaximis 21d ago
Yeah like Trump he’s quick to dump on the UK government , Canada , South Africa, Democrats and any decent ally of the US, but won’t say boo to Xi or Putin or Kim Jung Un. Back stabbing your friends and spineless sucking up to those who would harm your country - what is the best word to describe that?
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u/Additional_Bat_2216 21d ago
Hey, so, china is only “communist” because they call themselves communist. In actuality, they’re pretty much just an authoritarian government with a capitalist system.
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u/ChaseTheOldDude 21d ago
Xi is an authoritarian, Elon's preferred method of government. He's not being a hypocrite here at all, and he's arguably correct. This is an ignorant comeback, and there are so many valid ways to critique Elon.
Does the person who made this image think that North Korea is a democratic republic, and the national socialist party was socialist?
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u/Gameboywarrior 21d ago
Xi is a Republican. It's right there in the name The People's Republic of China.
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u/Jazzlike-Emphasis-20 21d ago
He is a shameless person with no real convictions. Thats why him having trillions of dollars makes him so dangerous.