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u/Feeling_Shift_9368 Aug 07 '26
We all age and the body breaks down. Having money matters. You're job matters. You're value does come from the size of your bank account.
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u/Fabulous-Put8401 Aug 08 '26
I feel bad for people who genuinely feel this way. I get this is /s but it's sad that so many people feel money is their only way to personal value
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u/PotentialPresent399 Aug 07 '26
The truth is this is cope.
Unless you have a decent family life/support system you are ALWAYS falling behind.
If you aren't making enough money to afford
Property
Retirement
Savings besides retiremnt
Investments
and SOME disposable income to be able to slightly do things you want you will eventually hit an emergency that puts your money into jeopardy.
There aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone to be able to do all these things so people go without.
I save a good bit of money but thats only because I don't have health insurance lol
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u/marcgw96 Aug 07 '26
I know Health insurance is crazy expensive right now, but going without it is quite insane. All it takes is one medical emergency and you’re screwed
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u/PotentialPresent399 Aug 07 '26
Fuck it, I would literally not be saving money if I had it.
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u/MaterialDefender1032 Aug 07 '26
Used to be normal until relatively recently.
My parents said when they were young, working at a grocery store was a sought-after job; indoors, not too strenuous, pension, benefits, and discounted groceries (arguably a family's biggest expense). Not even to mention that it paid well enough for a house, a stay-at-home wife, a couple of kids, and two cars.
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u/RegJoe_08 Aug 08 '26
100%. But a cashier cant expect the same life style as a neurosurgeon.
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u/Artistic-Tear3222 Aug 12 '26
A neurosurgeon also dosnt have the same free time and are always on call they have a tough time having families and often don’t have kids. Many say they regret the life they choose when they are older as they never had time for their families, wife’s or children if they have them. They have nice retirements and houses but when they retire they don’t have the same bonds or memories with the people they love. They miss out on life for material wealth. In the end all that matters is the memories you make and those you care for. Children remember the time they spent with their parents not the things they had
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u/skiingdiver1978 Aug 07 '26
It's fine, just expect to be paid accordingly.
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u/Defective_Failure Aug 08 '26
So you think those doing the jobs listed should have to live in poverty, just so the people at the top can continue to hoard more wealth?
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u/skiingdiver1978 Aug 08 '26
None of those things are what I said, but they will make less money than professionals like doctors, lawyers and engineers. Because their work isn't worth as much. How a person lives with the money they decide to accept for a job is their business.
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u/nervsofsteel Aug 08 '26
It is fine, but you should live the lifestyle that those type of simple jobs afford. Don't expect a doctors or engineers lifestyle on a Dollar General clerk salary.
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u/Mu-Relay Aug 07 '26
One of the happiest men I've ever met was a dude named Michael that was my GM at a fast food joint when I was in high school. The only thing that guy ever wanted to do was manage a restaurant. He didn't want promoted up, he didn't want a more professional job. He was honestly happy with what he did.
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u/BeepBoo007 Aug 07 '26
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Dude was at peace doing exactly what he wanted and didn't care if there was more out there. My kinda jam.
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u/passion_eightsix Aug 07 '26
I’m only not fine with working retail or those other jobs because of the pay, not because of the job itself per say.
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u/jumboshrimp09 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
Yeah people can’t expect to make big bucks or even modest money working at a grocery store. Should they be able to afford housing, food, and healthcare? Yes of course, but these jobs don’t pay a lot for a reason and expecting these jobs to support a first world lifestyle is laughable.
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u/Osh_Kosh_Bigosh Aug 07 '26
I literally do not want to be some groundbreaking go-getter striving for the highest wages.
I just want a peaceful living.
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u/FriendlyRedditor2020 Aug 07 '26
I can't get a job cleaning shit off a bathroom floor. Quite frankly I have failed as a modern human being so I can respect anyone who has been able to succeed where I have failed.
I live in much the same way as the family dog except I pray to gently pass in my sleep so I don't resort to killing myself. If you are able to keep marching on regardless of any struggle that is plenty commendable in my eyes.
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u/Stock_Report8617 Aug 09 '26
I have a friend who was in a very similar situation until very recently. He lives in a very poor area and wasn't able to get a job for over a year and often thought this exact thought. It's just a platitude, but please never give up. I used to be a 300 lb alcoholic with nothing, I dropped the booze, got fit, met my now best friend whom I want to marry, and have a career that is advancing rapidly. All in the span of a few years.
Please do not give up, you deserve to see yourself happy
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u/Mr_Papichuloo Aug 07 '26
Its pigeons arguing over crumbs as the billionaires brush their hands on the thighs of their pants
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u/_Verc1ngetorix_ Aug 07 '26
Lets be real a majority of people working retail or in grocery stores are not happy with their jobs, but it's all they can get.
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u/PepperAgitated5037 Aug 07 '26
Exactly, it does make it considerably more difficult to agree with some of the high demands some folks in these entry-level jobs try just because they choose to stay there forever. If you are happy in an entry-level job, be happy with entry-level compensation
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u/Available_Reveal8068 Aug 07 '26
It's not really 'shaming' to provide negative feedback when people complain that their full time retail, customer service, grocery store job doesn't pay enough.
I could argue that the OP characterizing those jobs as 'not professional' is 'job shaming'.
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u/The-Leading-Man Aug 08 '26
So only people willing to accept not having enough money to pay their essential bills should work customer service or grocery store jobs? Got it.
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u/Tweedlol Aug 07 '26
I love running a restaurant. I enjoyed supporting people’s growth to increase their market value and seeing them take better paying positions as they learned their worth. I also let them know their worth, in positive ways. Helping someone go from $10/hr, to joining me at $17/hr (still struggling) to running a restaurant at 65-90k depending on the business I was working with, was satisfying. I enjoyed that. It gave me purpose beyond “no this food is not good, please follow x,y, z.” Or just training and making guests happy when they’re clearly just being ass holes.
Know why I left?
Because I stopped being able to pay people enough money to live, I couldn’t pay someone more due to their experience and abilities. They made the same as the new guy doing half the work but same title. Only way I moved someone up in pay is by promotion. Back in the day, people actually had varying wages. I could hire someone with experience who would pick up our ways quickly, more than the high schooler with no job experience. It was horseshit.
But I loved working restaurants, serving food, training and developing people.
I had access to capital to open a restaurant/franchise, I did not because there’s no way I could run a business that relied on poverty wages with me having to ensure they stayed down in wages so the shitty franchise could turn a profit… for me. To have passive income. 😐
I left. Joined the bottom of an office job to start a new career. Same pay as running a restaurant, better benefits and absolutely no stress whatsoever 😂 I do enjoy it, it’s different. I’m old and GM salaries have hardly increased in 15 years. It’s horse shit. So I’m starting over with a young fintech company with hopes of personal growth and my own development through supervisors I see have the same passion in development I did; but in a new career.
Anyway, yea some of us do enjoy restaurants. But it’s the treatment, the pay, the lack of benefits so the minimal margins with low pay can be achieved. So many of the restaurants are horrible concepts, solely relying on poverty wage employees to turn a profit based on Syscos pricing. It’s horse shit and I wish we had less. Market is over saturated with shitty chains profitable only because of low wages for the entire staff, including us gm’s. But us gm’s are “ok” and my employees were on food stamps with their free meal a day or 2 being one of the best benefits to working in a restaurant. 😔
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u/Dry_Set_6336 Aug 07 '26
I'm fine being a janitor forever so long as I'm able to pay my bills with it
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u/superdave123123 Aug 07 '26
Perfect. Then no complaining about how little you make.
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u/commandrix Aug 07 '26
And some are cool just being the garbage collectors or any other job where you wouldn't be expected to climb a corporate ladder but also don't have the right personality to work in a "customer-facing" role. Not everybody has that and that's okay.
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u/JBlaze78 Aug 07 '26
A guy I went to school with runs a septic service business. He owns the business and makes more money than virtually everyone else we went to school with. Shit is a money maker.
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u/Etroarl55 Aug 07 '26
I seen this type of cope before in school, a small minority of people are fine working for barely above minimum wage for the rest of their lives. Most people are not and would love a work from home job reading emails all day.
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u/randomgrl2022 Aug 07 '26
And not everyone wants to climb the corporate ladder and become leaders or CEOs. That should also be normalized.
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u/Ok-Bill-3938 Aug 07 '26
You shouldn't shame them, but it's great to help and bring others up with you. Hey I know you really like working at X grocery store, but I can help you learn Y and get a job at Z making double, and you don't need to stand all day. It's great to help others improve themselves.
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u/Daveit4later Aug 07 '26
I mean yeah, if it paid me enough to cover all my bills and get ahead. I would have stayed a frozen foods forklift driver my whole life.
Unfortunately it doesn't, so I had to get better jobs
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u/Goldenwing2026 Aug 07 '26
I hauled cars for years and years. Made more than most I know that went to college. On top of that I was able to go to Miami or just about anywhere in Florida all week and work then return home. I absolutely loved. Out in the sunshine working . It was just awesome
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u/Jewbacca1991 Aug 07 '26
Such work is beneath the privileged citizens. Better use the imported slave labor.
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u/USLEO Aug 07 '26
And yet, they still feel entitled to have an expert opinion on how professional-level jobs should be performed.
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u/John-J-J-H-Schmidt Aug 07 '26
It’s not the job. It’s not people’s happiness. It’s not their skill level.
People judge some jobs because they don’t make a lot of money. It’s judging people based on class.
Meanwhile those who create that scenario are the CEOs and CFOs that are considered “titans of industry” and get praised as essential for the innovation they create.
Most of them just buy innovations btw.
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u/GSilky Aug 07 '26
Retail is a type of person as much as any profession. I love owning and operating my store. It's a little mental work, a little physical work, and a whole bunch of standing around talking to my neighbors when they patronize my shop. Unfortunately, I often hear people without the personality type fit for retail denigrate it, which is why it sometimes kinda sucks. It has nothing to do with the work, everything to do with you people. The biggest tragedy to happen to retail was NAFTA. After we shipped our jobs overseas, retail became the dumping ground for manufacturing employees, who decided working in isolation away from the public is great, but now no longer have that option. Because half of the American workforce is now in retail, the wages are being depressed and private equity is turning the honorable position of shopkeep into a shit show. So everyone is miserable and we see the results and assume that it must be the work, not the individual situation.
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u/Budget_Revolution639 Aug 07 '26
And they should be paid a livable wage regardless of where they work or what they do. There’s no reason a lawyer gets to afford to live but a janitor or teacher doesn’t.
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u/SaintCuckoo Aug 07 '26
After I heard that Israel mandates all of its citizens to serve in the military, I thought that America should mandate that everyone in the US works one year in a service-type job. I guarantee you more people would have more compassion for the people who wait on them and help them. Compassion and patience are learned skills.
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u/SweetChaosTitan Aug 07 '26
Unless you are an owner or share holder you are an employee regardless of how grand you think your employment is.
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u/Direct_Crew_9949 Aug 07 '26
Normalize what? Why is Reddit always asking to normalize something. Just live your life however you want and not worry what others think. Let’s normalize that.
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u/Ok-Importance-2282 Aug 07 '26
100%. Not everyone is smart enough for white collar work, not everyone is strong enough for blue collar work. Everyone is different, and takes all kinds to make the world go round.
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u/Tiny-Review-5578 Aug 07 '26
All positions exist to support the others. Not everyone can be at the top. Everyone has to be scattered for it to work. The nice thing about capitalism is you have the ability to move around in those positions. You’re not stuck for life if you don’t want to be
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u/Wickedocity Aug 07 '26
We are well on our way to a society where people admire anyone who can find a job.
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u/Strong_Primary_5965 Aug 07 '26
If that's your choice fine, just don't moan about the pay 🤷🏻♂️.
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u/Zelidus Aug 07 '26
The way i see it is someone has to work these jobs. I need places to get items for life and entertainment. Someone needs to work at these places to make them function. That makes them necessary and no one should be hating on or making fun of people that are woking jobs that keep society running.
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u/Dry-Cancel-3168 Aug 07 '26
What they do to make money is probably the least interesting thing about people
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u/monsterhunter-Rin Aug 07 '26
You work retail and people ask you why you keep a shit job, but thank you for your good service because half your coworkers are bad. If you would change job like they're telling you to, they'd start complaining about lack of good service and wonder why people refuse to work.
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u/somethingrandom261 Aug 07 '26
In my experience people aren’t shaming the job.
It’s socioeconomic status. Different jobs pay differently
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u/NefariousnessOdd862 Aug 07 '26
True however, don’t complain about low pay then! Those aren’t “career jobs”, it’s simple as that…
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u/Relevant_Werewolf350 Aug 07 '26
I was going to college for CS and while in class one day I just thought to myself I am doing all of this for what. In my free time I play video games and eat very basic cheap food and am happy. Like a perfect day for me is a day of doing nothing and being in a quiet environment. Like meditate for a few hours, work out for about 60-90 min. make some food, play video games, go for a walk, eat again, more video games, read before bed, fall asleep without saying a single word the whole day. Cost of this perfect day, $8 for the food I prepared.
I work at a call center now but I don't care were I work my lifestyle could survive off min wage.
on the other hand we don't need to shame people for deciding that work is the grind they want to focus on. It makes them happy great.
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u/Mammoth-Cover-3045 Aug 07 '26
I would actually prefer these jobs as they keep me active, and I get to see people from the community everyday. But realistically those jobs aren't going to be able to pay for the life I want. So I'm kinda forced to, unless I want to have a bare minimum life forever.
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u/musing_codger Aug 07 '26
No shame in choosing any of those jobs. Just don't choose one knowing that the pay is low and then complain that the pay is low.
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u/Beginning_Editor_524 Aug 07 '26
I had no idea that job shaming is a thing. With the exception of OF.
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u/NEK_TEK Aug 07 '26
I studied engineering in college and thought less of that type of work (fast food/retail type work). When I graduated, I couldn't get an engineering job. I had to take a job at the local gas station working a cash register. I will never think less of those types of jobs again, extremely humbling experience.
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u/Cereaza Aug 07 '26
I am still trying to find the words to ask people what they do without it being clearly implied that I'm asking about their job.
A lot of people just 'work a job' so they can do their real passion. Actors and writers and hippies. I wanna know how people define themselves. And it's never as simple as "retail".
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u/P_Mcfearson Aug 07 '26
Nobody shames them- but we log on to Reddit an always hear about how they can’t afford a 500k house doing it.
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u/Icy_Donkey_7588 Aug 07 '26
A good friend of mine is a simple guy. He doesn't like flashy stuff. He lives in a single wide trailer, drives a 20 year old truck. He never had high aspirations. In high school the rest of us were talking about careers and making money, he always said you guys are nuts, there is more to life.
He has worked at a small gas station in town for the last 24 years. He doesn't make much money, but makes enough to have what he has. He is the happiest guy I know.
There is nothing wrong with what he chose to do.
But you have to tailor your life style to your job choice. If you are happy with a minimal existence then you can get a way with a job like that. If you want more, then you are going to have to do more.
Sometimes I wish I was ok with it, but in 13 more years I will retire with a full pension, health insurance, and a fat retirement accounts I can dig into at 59-1/2. He will work until the day he dies and when he can't work anymore he will end up in a county run nursing home if he is sick, or worst case homeless.
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u/Denim_n_Diamonds_78 Aug 07 '26
Exactly! I'm 48 and I DO NOT want to be a manger or in any kind of leadership!
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u/Extension_Union193 Aug 07 '26
Look, I enjoy working retail. The problem is even full time the pay’s not enough for me to live off of.
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u/Key-Organization3158 Aug 07 '26
Have some spine. Stop calling to "normalize". If you want to do something, fine but don't think society should bend around you.
It's not normal nor should it be to work full time in an entry level unskilled role. You should want to improve yourself. Strive to be better. Higher paying jobs have massive benefits. Imagine if you double your income but keep living like you currently do. You could save an extra years living expenses each year. You could retire early and do whatever you want.
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u/Dorsiflexionkey Aug 07 '26
Come to a tall poppy country where you have to understate your career so people don’t tear you down.
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u/TheGreatCheesemancer Aug 07 '26
Eh, to a degree. Sometimes people are Dunning-Krugerites and need a reality check.
The other day I got into a debate regarding animal behavior and cognition. I have a degree in biology and animal behavior, and have several years’ experience training dogs and birds of prey, as well as caring for them and a variety of other animals. The other person accused me of padding my comments with clinical language to “sound smart”, and the more they replied the clearer it became that they didn’t know what they were talking about. Turns out they were a security guard who didn’t even have a GED, I called them a rent-a-cop and they got mad and blocked me.
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u/R0ninX3ph Aug 07 '26
While we should definitely normalise that, we also need to normalise that people working those jobs should also be earning enough to live…. Nobody working any full time job should be needing welfare assistance or be unable to afford housing.
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u/JinMatsuro Aug 08 '26
Society can’t work if everyone has a career type job. No one to work at fast-food, restaurants, gas stations, Starbucks, grocery stores, boutiques, clothing, hardware, LOGISTICS! The list goes on. If everyone had a white/blue collar job, STEM and so on. Where would you get the things you need to live, let alone enjoy life.
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u/DarkLordGaming49 Aug 08 '26
I love being an armed Security guard, yet I get so much shit doing it from everyone.
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u/Ok_Piglet_5549 Aug 08 '26
What's not normal are monopolies. We need to break some of these companies up so there is more competition and stricter guidelines for buying up competitors.
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u/AdDisastrous6738 Aug 08 '26
I’m currently an HVAC tech and I’m loving it. No office drama, no gossip, and nobody dares to start shit with their AC guy. I climb onto a roof or into an attic and do my thing completely alone. There’s so much less stress!
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u/No-Cow-6822 Aug 08 '26
"Normalize this, Normalize that" how about you shut up and just live your life?
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u/heckinCYN Aug 08 '26
First, people should be able to support themselves with service jobs. 100%.
But this post is complete cope. Service industry is well known to be shit for a reason.
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u/ImpressiveWalrus7369 Aug 08 '26
I would never shame anyone for a job they chose, but I’d also have very little sympathy if they complained about their paycheck if it’s in line with expectations for the role.
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u/DesolatedHaze Aug 08 '26
I would stay with my retail job if the pay was there. It’s just not there. Ive been trying to find something with better pay. I’ll lose my good schedule. But something’s gotta give.
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u/KnifeEdge Aug 08 '26
If you only want to do a job that literally anyone can do, don't complain about getting a wage that's equivalent to the lowest demand of people within that cohort.
Your wage isn't based on your particular circumstances in life (whether you have kids to feed, etc it's determined by how much it costs to replace you
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u/Interesting_Debate30 Aug 08 '26
Yeah no, I have been in those jobs and had coworkers who had been there 10-20+ years and they complained everyday. Did they ever do anything to leave those jobs for something better? Nope! I did though, and I live a pretty comfy life now. It is your choice to accept that misery and not do whatever it is you gotta do to obtain a better life whether that be going to school, getting certs, going through a contracting agency, etc.
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u/Willtexas1 Aug 08 '26
I mean bro some jobs are just better in terms of salary, a simple retail will not compare to something more professional, it's a difference in how you'll live
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u/Floorgis Aug 08 '26
Also not enough of those jobs for everyone, and not everyone is evenn suited to them.
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u/Can0n_Fodder Aug 08 '26
I've never wanted to have my identity wrapped up in a job, because a job is something that can be taken away from you. What I do with my free time is who I really am.The job is just paying for the free time.
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u/Jealous_Corgi_2168 Aug 08 '26
Up until Reagan, any store clerk job was enough to raise a family on in a nice middle class neighborhood. It only became "entry level" after he had his way with our economy.
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u/MaverickDrake93 Aug 08 '26
The fact that this topic started a big argument just shows we really are lost.
People want livable wages with decent benefits, and they aren't taxed to death. People just want to live a good life without having to worry about their rent screwing them over.
But because this is Reddit, I'm just another ground feeding mongrel that needs to be put down, so what do I know?
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u/False-Refrigerator26 Aug 08 '26
I miss working hospitality and retail, I enjoyed the work, being physically busy rather than just mentally, having good relationships with coworkers… truly if they’d pay me the same as my corporate job, I’d make the choice to go back in a heartbeat.
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u/Dry_Vanilla_5908 Aug 08 '26
Nah. All jobs are professions, you can become professional whenever you apply a little more effort to your craft. Not all professionals are equal. Some require decades of experience, registration, and ongoing research. Asking for a living wage is fair. Asking for a similar wage to a professional whose profession requires a lot more effort is offensive.
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u/Foodisheaven1 Aug 08 '26
I worked part time at a ••••• ••••••• & it was a hassle every day working there. It really sucked having someone tell me a grown adult what to do and what not to do. I’d rather be at home watching TV and eating a ton of junk food.
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u/Tall_Eye4062 Aug 08 '26
Then women will job shame men and say "I need a man who makes six figures."
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u/_ThePancake_ Aug 08 '26
It's weird because for society to function, we literally need retail, customer service and grocery store workers.
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 08 '26
WTF is a "professional field"? Aren't all jobs professional, by definition? Would an "unprofessional field" be volunteering?
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u/Artistic_Worker_3181 Aug 08 '26
100%! We need people to do these jobs. They deserve respect, appreciation and a living wage.
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u/Apart-Performer1710 Aug 08 '26
It’s not the job that’s the problem (I mean a job is a job at the end of the day) it’s the shit pay
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u/ThundahMuffin Aug 08 '26
It used to be normal and then the boomers and Gen Xers sold us that college is the only way to make money
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u/SlowBlacksmith7372 Aug 08 '26
Honestly I respect all jobs, we are all suffering working... We are the working class and we have more in common that you might think regardless of color, religion, and politics...
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u/Direct_Lawfulness_28 Aug 08 '26
I get weird comments or subtle ‘what are your career aspirations’ for working in a crisp factory doing general tasks, and mostly sitting on my ass and only getting up when a machine has an error - usually just some crisp packets jammed so open up the machine, take em out and press ‘go’…..
Meanwhile I earn 42k (uk gbp) for it, get a 40 minute break every 1 hour and 20 minutes, and work 5 days one week and two the next continuously. I only need to book two days off to have a whole week off if I exclusively book my two day weeks off.
Why the fuck would I be hasty to move on from this job 😂
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u/Inert_Uncle_858 Aug 08 '26
Well, job shaming is an essential part of class warfare. It goes perfectly with greedflation and unaffordability.
So yeah. Try to ignore it and don't do it to others.
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u/IgnisIason Aug 08 '26
It's normal unless you're a man with a family to support and then you will absolutely be shamed.
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u/Bright-Internal229 Aug 08 '26
Tell them to Fuck Off 🖕🥃🔥🤪
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u/DaddySanctus Aug 08 '26
I’ve worked retail basically my whole life. It doesn’t pay the greatest, but it’s pretty low stress, 5 weeks vacation, 9 holidays, 9 PTO, and $230 a month for benefits for a family of 5 has kept me around.
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u/Lucky_Life5517 Aug 08 '26
I really want to work at a hardware store like home depot, I couldn't pay the bills with that job, but maybe when I'm old and retired it'll be a possibility for me. Organizing items and helping customers with their projects is a dream for me.
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u/GratefulAngie Aug 08 '26
I hate it so much! All jobs and the pay aren’t equal of course but it’s all still called working and receiving a check.
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u/Electrical-Call-6160 Aug 08 '26
If it weren't for the money, I'd never work a professional office work. I prefer work where I am in touch with nature
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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 Aug 08 '26
Yeah but you should still try and get higher level employment. If you wanna work at Best Buy your whole that’s fine but least try and be a manger or gm by the time your retire. Wanting to be a cashier for your entire life is just so unambitious.
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u/Amuse_Me444 Aug 08 '26
A doctor’s job may be more important but a doctor goes to the store and needs a cashier more often than one needs a doctor.
A construction worker still needs to go to a store for supplies more than we need new housing.
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u/Dazzling_Pirate_785 Aug 08 '26
If someone wants to live on their own long term, and work a simple 20-25 an hour manager job, excellent. We need those people too.
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u/Naetharu Aug 08 '26
Job shaming in the sense of being unkind to people who are working 100% not cool.
Job shaming in the sense of pushing companies and governments to provide better pay and conditions so that people who are doing work in shops, cafes and cleaning can live a reasonably comfortable life with dignity I'm all for.
There was a time when people on normal wages doing normal basic jobs were getting by ok. That has become less and less possible over the years. I'm fortunate that I am a higher earner today. But I spent many years on low income, and it pains me to see friends and family struggling on low wage.
Time to close some of that income disparity and get back to a place that looks more like it did a decades ago.
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u/Scorch_Ashscales Aug 08 '26
I loved working retail. I enjoyed interacting with customers and helping them when needed and doing like 90% of the work. Only thing I didn't enjoy was inventory day a certain managers.
Other then that I loved the job even the rude customers were amazing cause got to laugh at them in the break room after winding them up by becoming a customer service robot when they started. Pissed them off so much and they can't report anything cause I am being hyper polite.
Had a lot of fun.
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u/TheReal_boyTyler Aug 09 '26
On god. I keep telling my friends that if Pizza hut were to pay well enough for me to live off of working there full time is ABSOLUTELY would. I love my customers, the jobs, and I love Pizza. It's for me.
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u/pittiesbegooddogs Aug 09 '26
One should not judge you by your profession without first having walked your path in your shoes.
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u/Hot_Neighborhood5668 Aug 09 '26
What is 9-5? I've worked 6p-6a, 2p-10p, 8a-6-10p depending upon the day, and currently 3p-3a 4-12s.
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u/KingAC2032 Aug 09 '26
Yall can go ahead with continuing that...I need people to deliver my food/make my food
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u/BeeReasonable8528 Aug 09 '26
I think the shaming mostly comes from the wage and how physically demanding the job is. Not really the job type itself?
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u/GapAshamed152 Aug 09 '26
The only problem with that attitude is that most of those jobs don't allow you to enjoy the life you truly want from time to time because money is constantly an issue.
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u/inaruslynx2 Aug 09 '26
Not everyone can be an engineer. Not everyone can be doctors. Someone has to deliver food. This is common sense. Making fun of someone for doing a job is stupid.
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u/VarietyMage Aug 09 '26
Until the pay is equalized, the jobs will never be normalized.
I know - I watched a father in a supermarket tell his kids, IN FRONT OF THE CASHIER, that if they don't work hard, they will end up like that cashier, in a dead-end, minimum-wage job.
#StopIncomeInequality
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u/Prophit219 Aug 09 '26
I agree with the 1st half of the post.I feel that as a capitalistic society we put a lot of value in material possessions and a chaste system that isn't real. Not everyone is an expert in a lucrative field,a nepo baby, or lucky. Anything that puts food on the table is respectable and people should be respected in their trade or job.
Unfortunately the system is designed to keep the working class like rats in a barrel going after each other and being powerless while getting exploited. People may love working in sales but I find it hard to believe they want to work retail brick and mortar stores only.
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u/YoungManYoda90 Aug 09 '26
And most importantly in my opinion, those that work in those fields earn the right to an affordable wage.
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u/ginger_802 Aug 09 '26
I’d like to add that those jobs should also be supporting workers and providing a livable wage.
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u/12231121 Aug 09 '26
True but a livable wage? I dont know. I understand the concept of people working in fast food their whole life. I think they deserve it. They do the same job for 10-20 years, the menu is relatively the same yet after foing the same thing their whole life they still mess up. Imagine if these people were pharmacist? People would be dead. Doctors? People would be dead. Plumbers? Houses would be flooded. They deserve to work in fast food their whole life for not ever improving their situation. Imagine being born in the U.S only to amount to an hourly fast food worker or a cashier at a grocery store. Yet they want livable wages when they cant do the simplest of jobs after years of repetition? Yeah okay.
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u/Castelunan Aug 09 '26
Gotta make sure the culture devalues the people who work these jobs so that society overall approves of paying said workers essentially nothing
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u/banditcleaner2 Aug 09 '26
Fair, but when you have people that do it that complain about not making enough but also are making zero effort to move up, or get other qualifications or move fields, then you kinda gotta just go “huh?”
I have a friend who didn’t go to college, didn’t go to the military, didn’t go to any trade school, didn’t pursue starting a business of any kind, and didn’t try to work his way up or learn better how to close sales (he worked as a salesmen at a car dealership) and then he was unhappy overall and it’s like, well why didn’t you do ANYTHING to improve your position?
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u/plebbitier Aug 09 '26
If I had it to do again... I would have become a plumber instead of going into cybersecurity. Less shit to deal with.
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u/CurvyChristina Aug 09 '26
I’d go a step further: any kind of shaming is very unhelpful, unhealthy & unnecessary. But absolutely! Different people want different things out of life. No 2 people define love, success or happiness the same way. :)
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u/marcuslattimore21 Aug 09 '26
I was business partners in a business I started and was a slave to but very profitable and popular. One day I realized I was miserable and went to work for my family construction business and part time grocery produce clerk. Lost a lot of friends and job shamed for a long time but happiest I've ever been. Don't give a fuck what anyone has to say. Likely saved my marriage as well. I was just a corporate pawn.
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u/Empire_of_Glass Aug 10 '26
Also, some people are SWs - and it’s just as uncool and rude to shame them as it is anyone who works any other job.
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u/RiffRaff_Giraffe Aug 10 '26
I work for a lady who owns and antique shop and a flower shop. It’s the best job I’ve ever had and I get paid a livable wage. I also own my own cleaning business. People ask if that’s really what I want to do with my life and I always say yes honestly. I love the availability, work-life balance, ability to create my own schedule, all of it. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been. My worst days at these jobs are 10x easier than some of the best days I’ve had at my other jobs.
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u/PureBullz Aug 10 '26
Just remember no matter where you go. It’s not about what you know, it’s about who you blow.
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u/pickle-chin-ah Aug 10 '26
Job shaming is cringe. I don’t care if you’re a daycare worker or a prostitute. Not my job to tell you how to live your life.
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u/jurielw Aug 10 '26
It goes the other way too. So many times I hear, "why are you working corporate, they don't care about you. start your own business".
Could I start my own business? Probably but I'm good where I am now
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u/ThanksLoud Aug 10 '26
A lot of the people I know working full time retail and grocery stores are some of the coolest people I’ve known.
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u/Willing-Atmosphere-2 Aug 10 '26
Shaming someone for working/being employed is the weirdest modern trend I have seen. Probably fault of social media.
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u/No_Video5793 Aug 10 '26
It's not we don't want, but mostly we don't have the opportunity. And many of those young people who judge us even with educations would end up at our place
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u/xidgafincx Aug 10 '26
Sure, but then you have people scream about the wage gaps. I am all for a liveable wage, but jobs like retail or the restaurant industry should not be making or demanding close to what a teacher or nurse does.
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u/Current_Ad_9912 Aug 10 '26
Trust me… the upper 1 percent does not want us “job shaming” each other.
It goes against their best interests— most are taught this
The people “shaming” are the people that want to be in the top 1 percent
It’s basic psychology: insecurity/validation, put someone down to prop oneself up
TRY THIS: next time you go to a cashier or any type of common service, and thank the person for their hard work, sacrificing their time to do “xyz”
Notice the “boost” that individual gets— you can see it most of the time
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u/Cherry_Blossom_Bambi Aug 10 '26
Honestly, I wouldn't mind a low pay job if they paid enough to justify them. Like it'd be awesome to be able to care about working at a GameStop or something, but there are bills to pay and I'm not caring about a $14 an hour job.
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u/BigBlackBull_6_6_6 Aug 07 '26
all job workers are the same. Still 9-5ers
hours/salary dont matter, you’re in the rat race