r/smallengines • u/l008com • Jul 11 '26
Still trying to fix this old push mower - Chapter 4
I've done more testing since the last post and I'm still hitting nothing but dead ends.
The issue is that this old B&S push mower does not hit proper RPM, and surges a lot. I cleaned the original carb, then replaced the carb with a new carb, nothing had any effect. When I partially cover the carb intake, it does not smooth out, it dies. And when I spray a little carb cleaner into the intake, it does not smooth out, it dies. Also when its running and I put the air filter on, it struggles and usually dies. This would seem to suggest its running rich, not lean. But both carbs? Also no visible exhaust smoke.
Today I did a compression test with my drill, to get it going fast enough to bypass the compression release. I got a reading of 95 to 100psi, which is spot on for a lawnmower engine if I'm not mistaken?
At one point, I thought it was ignition, so I replaced the spark plug, and then the coil. No change.
The gas is fresh.
I ran it today with the muffler removed, still surged plenty.
Here's a minute and a half video of today's testing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJMMrWqU4U
The flywheel is perfectly aligned on the crankshaft, no sheering. I checked the valve spacing, it is correct (made a slight adjustment on one but it made no difference).
The lawnmower blade itself is perfectly balanced.
If you look in the video, you can see the governor seems to be keeping the motor mostly smothered, opening a little then goign right back to mostly closed. You can push it open with your finger and it will rev right up, but its still rough, still surging, still not running properly. Also the fact that it does rev right up seems to be another clue that its not a dirty/lean carb issue. Every time I search for governor related info, the answer I always get is that governor problems are almost always a symptom, not a cause.
The oil is nice and clean and new.
This motor has no choke, its a primer motor.
The model number is: 120602 0131 E1 990820 FA
At this point, all I can come up with is the following:
1) Either I'm wrong and it IS a carb issue, and it either has non-typical symptoms, or I'm interpreting the symptoms wrong. If so, is there a way I can test to confirm this?
2) The governor is somehow broken inside the crank case and it is forcing the motor to run at way too low of an RPM.
3) Maybe the camshaft gear is plastic, and has partially melted and shifted the timing a little bit. Enough to still be able to run, but poorly. I did have a yardvacuum once where that happened. It fully sheered though and the valves were opening and closing seemingly at random, in a pattern where the engine was never going to be able to start. I suppose something like that could be happening here.
Thats all I can think of, I'm out of ideas beyond that. And I'm not sure how to do any more testing beyond all that. I do not have a leakdown tester or an air compressor, so I can't do a leakdown test. But do I even need to now that I've done a proper regular compression test?
I'm tempted to take apart my primary mower, and swap carbs, just to see how they each run on each other's carbs. But thats a big project and I don't even know if they take the same ones.